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Old 10-15-2003, 11:56 PM
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Critique setup please

H23 prelude si
T3/T4E .63ar stage3 / .60ar 57trim
Lovefab sidewinder manifold
Hondata S100b
550cc primary fuel injectors
255lph fuel pump (in tank)
tial 38mm wastegate (7psi spring)
turboXS BOV
Spearco intercooler with all custom piping
3" downpipe 3"exhaust all the way back... no cat or muffler (no emissions in Fl)
oil lines n all the hardware...
This is the setup i want to run

#1... am i missing anything...
#2... does this look like a good reliable street setup for everyday driving at 7psi
#3... could i get around 220-240whp at 7psi on my prelude H23 without blowing the ringlands
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well, ive heard that a turbo will quiet your exhaust a bit but with a straight 3" shot from the turbo all the way to the end of the pipe, I think its still gonna be pretty damn loud. and looks liek you got everythign there. not sure about how much boost the H series can handle, even though their closed deck design, ive heard the sleves are pretty weak, Ive also heard a couple of things about weak rods as well. I only really do b series research myself cuz thats what im gonna build soon. but 550's seem like overkill for 7 pounds, you plan on building it up and running more later?
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Old 10-16-2003, 04:09 PM
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Yes

Yeah, i post on another forum too... they said as missing guages and vacuum lines... i figured those were a given but oh well... Yes i plan on running more later. The problem with the Hseries motors is the piston riglands... there prone to breakage if you detonate at all... and just plane at all if you go over 8psi... In order to run higher boost without internal work you have to run a standalone unit and have GREAT tuning... but im only going to run 6.5-7psi. You might ask why not just replace the pistons then... the Hseries sleeves are coated with this stuff called FRM that wont work with forged pistons... will scar the SHIT out of the walls and the pistons, a wisco makes pistons that are supposedly compatible... but ive seen the inside of those engine after 5k miles... they are by no meens compatible. Eventually im going to run aftermarket sleeves, cp pistons n crower rods.. that way i can run 10-13psi daily and 17-18 when im at the track.. gotta love hondata... but yeah just chekin to see if i was missin anything on my list before i start buying
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I think 550CC injectors are definetly overkill.

Also, if you think you can get away with out having a muffler or a cat, you're crazy. First, your car is going to sound like a dirt bike, just several times louder. Second, you'll get a ticket.
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Old 10-16-2003, 09:22 PM
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well, if I were you Id get the hondata right away and tune it properly for even only 7 pounds of boost, youll still have more power by tuning it right then just tricking the ecu into more fuel and not throwing codes, then later when you throw more boost on it you already got the ECU, so it wont be wasted money at all.
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The 550cc injectors are a over kill for 7psi but for higher boost levels like 15-18psi they are needed. All you have to do is get the hondata and just tune it right and it will run just as good with the 550's as with some 310's or 440's. You just have to decrease the duty cycle.
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i replied to this on honda-tech.com too but go w/ some cheap 450 DSM injectors...and fuck what these kids say to you...if you bought the 550's use them...dont ever listen to someone that isnt turboing their car or has a turbo in their car.....

Good luck, im catching up to you. just need my FMIC, and piping and ill be close to install...
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Re: Critique setup please

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fuck what these kids say to you...if you bought the 550's use them...dont ever listen to someone that isnt turboing their car or has a turbo in their car
fuck yourself, noone said to not get them or sel them if he has them , just stated they arent needed, and I even asked if he planned on more later, he said yes and so obviously he needs them, and as me and whtteg said just get a hondata and tune it good and heel be fine now, AND when he cranks up the boost. and I bet he idnt even buy them, I look at it like he is going to buy all this stuf and juts wants to see if theres anythign else he should add to the list before he goes out and gets it all.
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ok

your guys are probably right.. and stop fighting about shit its not worth it lol... 440's or even 500's are probably plenty, and i planned on getting the hondata and have that running my setup ALWAYS... not band-aid fix it till i can afford it... no fmu's or any of that crap... i cant have to worry about blowing it to pieces... it my 1 and only daily driver which is why im running low 6-7psi any other suggestions?
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Old 10-17-2003, 01:14 AM
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your BOV is a POS

Buy a 1g DSM BOV $50 and works better

lovefab mani's are all hype. buy a Revhard or inline pro

spearco is all hype

www.speedpartsrus.com much better price for a similar quality product.

make sure you use flex pipe on your DP since you are running 3" and since you dont have a cat or any of that good stuff...

Flamenco-T on honda-tech is the best seller for fucking oil lines. i bought mine from him last night i was super impressed.

Kteller8=pimp of exhaust shit....hes a good man and selling h22 shit and if you buy something of his h22 stuff he will give you $50 off an exhaust system. i high suggest it

Upgrade your clutch
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yeah, i was beggining to hear alot of crap about spearco... how about precision? any good?

As for lovfab manis being all hype, i dunno about that... ALOT of people like codys work, not to mention u cant beet a lifetime warrenty on a turbo manifold. If i did decide to go another way however... it would be inline pro, rev hard or maxrev just cuz its 350$ cheaper

yeah, i know its still going to be loud so i might put an apexi n1 on it if it beceoms a problem(like thats really going to help haha) but i figure with the turbo hopefully it wont be too bad, but our right, will probably sound like a freight train.

as for the BOV... cool, saved be 50$

yeah, once i get the turbo, i figure itll only be a matter of time before my clutch will get fed up with 230-260 at the wheels. and after that it will be LDS and probably some new front tires by then seeing how ill have fried the old ones... thanx for the help everyone... any more ideas?
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Re: Critique setup please

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make sure you use flex pipe on your DP since you are running 3" and since you dont have a cat or any of that good stuff...

I was just wondering why, because even if he had a cat, when the engine rocks, it stil pulls the exhaust, thats why under youre car they are mounted on rubber hangers, not bolted on, so the exhaust can move around?


I never heard that before.
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billab2ong I am very tired of you getting on here and saying ohh this is the best and everything else is shit and I lnow this and I know that and don't listen to someone who does not have a turbo. Fuck off man you disrepect the site and bash it in posts and bash everybody else on here so go away if you don't like it. And I have been readingf alot of stuff from you on hondatech and you just repeat things other poeple are saying. Ypou my friend are gay.

And FYI I have had 2 turbo cars and have freinds who have turbo cars and I work on them for them and upgrade stuff so STFU!
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Re: Critique setup please

ok... i said this once... can we try not fight... everyone just post there opinions and dont get on peoples case about theres... if i have 9 people tell me something is good and 1 person tell me its shit... i know what decision im going to make...

Now... are precision intercoolers any good?
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billab2ong I am very tired of you getting on here and saying ohh this is the best and everything else is shit and I lnow this and I know that and don't listen to someone who does not have a turbo. Fuck off man you disrepect the site and bash it in posts and bash everybody else on here so go away if you don't like it. And I have been readingf alot of stuff from you on hondatech and you just repeat things other poeple are saying. Ypou my friend are gay.
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