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Old 01-24-2003, 11:37 AM
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Nissan motors in Fords

A friend of mine works for the Mobil Oil change Express and he told me he popped the hood on a ford windstar and there was a nissan engine. He asked the guy and he told him it was the one out of the nissan quest and that ford had signed a contract with nissan to produce engines for there cars.
Does anyone else know anything about this? And Since when did nissan become the new Mazda?
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Old 01-24-2003, 04:53 PM
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Re: Nissan motors in Fords

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A friend of mine works for the Mobil Oil change Express and he told me he popped the hood on a ford windstar and there was a nissan engine. He asked the guy and he told him it was the one out of the nissan quest and that ford had signed a contract with nissan to produce engines for there cars.
Does anyone else know anything about this? And Since when did nissan become the new Mazda?
I haven't heard of anything like that must be something new, I know for a fact that Ford is still in cahoots with Mazda, I don't believe that Nissan is in business with Ford.

I guess I'll be looking more into this.
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economy is pretty shitty, prob jus helpin each other out
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ford owns mazda. as some of you may remember, the nissan quest and mercury villager were the same minivan, so it wouldn't surprise me that the same (nissan developed) 4 pot would be in the windstar. it is very common for companies to share resources, makes it cheaper for both companied to produce cars.
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Old 01-24-2003, 05:42 PM
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ford owns mazda. as some of you may remember, the nissan quest and mercury villager were the same minivan, so it wouldn't surprise me that the same (nissan developed) 4 pot would be in the windstar. it is very common for companies to share resources, makes it cheaper for both companied to produce cars.
Good point, so does that mean that in the future we are gonna see a Maxstang or Altimust, maybe even an 350ZMustang<hahaha
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Old 01-24-2003, 07:59 PM
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you'd think nissan would be helping ford more than ford is helping nissan.
Nissan knows how to make 6 cylinders better and they're not gonna put a ford V8 engine in a q45.
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No nissan does not know more about making 6 cylinders. In fact nissan doesn't know anything about anything. Nissan is a company, it does not have a mind and is in no way more intelligent or better than any other company(no matter what country it's from).

As for the engineers Nissan employs to develope engines, yes they know a whole lot about designing and building engines. But ya know what, the engineers Ford employs know just as much, as do Mazda's, GM's, Porche's, Ferrari's and Maclaren's.

All this crap about one car company being smarter and creating better technology is exactly that, crap. Everything to do with a car is governed by the laws of science. Physics is physics, no matter what country your in(or rather what country the company that pays your salary origonated from).

The sharing of technology is an age old practice governed by the same thing that governs everything. Economics. If it's cheaper for both companies to use a nissan design, designed by a french engineer, and have it built in America, then thats exactly what they'll do.*

*Note, there is no real truth in this example(at least as far as I know), I'm just using a fictional situation to illustrate my point.

Well I'm done. Stupid weather, can't see a damn thing out side the window(mainly cause it's coated in an inch or two of snow).
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well that was lame. kinda anal cap'n?

My point was that this relationship seems a little one-sided.

And nissan does make better 6 cylinders. that's why they've won the title best 6 cylinder in its class for its vq engine for the last 9 years in a row. But then again Nissan can't win anything (being a company and not an animate being as you pointed out)
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i'm sorry captyn, but you are just plain wrong. if engineers from american car companies know as much about engines as german or japanese engineers do, then why do german/japanese companies win all of the awards? how come american luxury carmakers cannot keep up with imports? it's because, ::gasp:: they don't know as much about physics as the engineers from japan/germany. just because we live in a global economy doesn't mean every competitor knows everything the other competitor knows. that's the whole meaning behind competition, someone gets one up on another, and therefore has an edge. yes, physics dictate and limit the abilities of machines, but understanding and manipulating the laws of physics is what seperates competitors. if every company had the same understanding of physics, then every car from every carmaker would be the same. ok, enough of that. point made.
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Old 01-25-2003, 11:56 AM
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yup, gotta side with thrasher yet again
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Re: Nissan motors in Fords

Getting back to the point....

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A friend of mine works for the Mobil Oil change Express and he told me he popped the hood on a ford windstar and there was a nissan engine. He asked the guy and he told him it was the one out of the nissan quest and that ford had signed a contract with nissan to produce engines for there cars.
Does anyone else know anything about this? And Since when did nissan become the new Mazda?
I'm sorry to pick on your friend's automotive knowledge, but he does work at a Mobile Oil Change Express...

I am willing to bet that he was NOT changing the oil on a Windstar but rather a Mercury Villager. These are two completely different and unrelated minivans.

While the Windstar is a completely Ford designed and built vehicle (including engines), the Villager was designed with MUCH assistance from Nissan. The engine (and whole drivetrain) in the Villager is the same as in the Nissan Quest. Ford manufactured the Villager as well as the Quest.

These are the only two vehicles that Nissan and Ford Motor share in North America. Both are now out of production.
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true true...

oh yea it's true...the villager/windstar and nissan quest share the same engine. needless to say the 199? - 200? windstar and quest does look similar.
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Once again, the Windstar is not related to either the Villager or the Quest. The Windstar is powered by a Ford 3.0L OHV or Ford 3.8L OHV V6 and is roughtly based on the Tauruses undercarriage. The Villager and Quest share a Nissan design and Nissan 3.0L SOHC or 3.3L SOHC V6 engines. Ford produces all three vehicles (the Windstar in Oakville, Ontario, Canada, and until somewhat recently the Villager/Quest in Avon Lake, Ohio) but the Mercury/Nissan and Ford are not related.
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did nissan gain anything from this?
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Nissan gained by having a domestically produced vehicle without having to build a new plant. It gave them eight years to expand their production facilities in North America to build a minivan themselves. The new Quest starts production in Canton, Mississippi, in May.
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