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Old 10-11-2002, 07:58 AM
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Post Sniper In the US !!

Surprised I haven't seen this posted here...or is it somewhere else on AF....



Police in the United States say a man shot dead at a petrol station in Virginia was the latest victim of a serial sniper.

Local and federal agencies are involved in the hunt

Prince William county police department said ballistic evidence "conclusively linked" the shooting in Manassas on Wednesday night to a spate of gun attacks in and around Washington DC.

The mystery gunman has killed seven people and wounded two others since 2 October, sparking mass fear in the area.

Investigators are trying to track down a white van reportedly seen leaving the scene of the latest fatal shooting and have been combing the area for any evidence.


Suspicions

Despite the high-profile search for the sniper, police have so far failed, at least publicly, to provide any strong indication of who he or she might be.

Shootings
2-3 Oct - Five people killed in Montgomery County, Maryland
3 Oct - Man killed in Washington DC
4 Oct - Woman injured in Fredericksburg, Virginia
7 Oct - Boy injured in Prince George's County, Maryland
9 Oct - Man killed in Manassas, Virginia

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With so little to go on, the authorities are continuing to appeal for people to come forward with any suspicions they might have.


Wednesday's victim has been named as 53-year-old Dean Harold Meyers of Gaithersburg, Maryland.

Police said he was shot once in the head. All the other victims were brought down with a single bullet.

Witnesses have given investigators a description of a vehicle seen in the area but it is not yet clear if it is connected to the crime.

"It was a white minivan, described as a panel vehicle, with only front passenger windows and no windows in the back," said local police spokeswoman Sergeant Kim Chinn.

The authorities have, however, backed away from earlier reports that two men were seen in a white van near the scene.

Last week, when the sniper first struck, a witness reported seeing a white van leaving the scene.

So far, the victims appear to have little in common - men and women aged from 13 to 72, of white, black, Hispanic and Indian origin.



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Five of those killed were shot within eight kilometres (five miles) of each other in Montgomery County, and the sixth died on a Washington DC street.

Another victim was shot and injured in the neighbouring state of Virginia, and a schoolboy shot outside his school in Prince George's County on Monday remains in a critical condition.

Many locals are now terrified of leaving their homes, for fear they could be the sniper's next victim.

"I'm scared to go to my mailbox. I'm scared to go to my car. I have two young kids. I'm a single mom. So I'm scared, really scared," one woman told the BBC.

Anger at media

The discovery of a tarot card carrying the message, "Dear policeman, I am God" was reported on Wednesday and sparked speculation about a possible new lead.


Moose: Angered by media speculation on tarot card

But the head of the investigation, Police Chief Charles Moose, condemned the publication of the find by the media, saying it could harm his inquiries.

"My concern about the card is its ability or inability to mess up the investigation. My investigators made clear and compelling arguments to me that that information was not to be released," he said.

The card was allegedly discovered outside the school in Prince George's County, where the 13-year-old boy was shot.

Nearly 200 investigators have been working through 1,400 leads, sifted from 7,500 tip-offs in an attempt to track down the killer.

The reward money for information currently stands at to $237,000.

Police are using geographical as well as psychological profiling in their search, examining the crime scenes in a bid to detect a pattern.

Federal agents have been assisting in the case since Thursday 3 October, the day after the shootings began.

Parents, police officers and emergency workers have been accompanying children to school and police protection is in force at all schools.
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Old 10-11-2002, 08:31 AM
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I've been following this story very closely. I'm nowhere near the danger, but, it is sick how someone is hunting people for fun. The sick shit is, he's picking people at random. It doesn't matter what race, creed or color.
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I still don't understand why releasing information on the tarot card is bad. Thats not something everyone has. I'd think they'd want to pass that out for more leads. I'm a tad concerned that Chief Moose is to worried about his control then getting more poeople involved.













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These people are sick!
It is probably some drop out gothic reject with no real life and a good aim.
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I find myself wondering if this is connected to Al Qaeda/The Taliban somehow? Like the anthrax-laced letters, the suspicion was there in connection with them as well, but I don't think an established link was ever able to be proven. Nevertheless, my fear, until this Tarot card, was that this would be another string of attacks that would "die out" as an unsolved case before the authorities were able to make heads or tales out of the evidence they have been able to find. The Tarot card is definitely a curve ball, something seemingly much more typical of a serial killer and not a terrorist organization.. and maybe why if Al Qaeda is responsible, it was such a sneaky move for them to make.
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yeah, it's very sad. Sick bastards!!!

I think they should capture that guy, let him and me loose on an island together and let me have my gun. See how much fun that asshole has!
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sick thing I heard on the radio this morning was apparently a couple of days ago someone mentioned he wasn't a good marksman, as a good one wouldn't have just injured some of the victims....then a couple of days later....to apparently to prove a point the nutter shoots and kills someone with one shot in the head......its as if he is playin games with the police...showin them whos in charge....
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... Like the anthrax-laced letters, the suspicion was there in connection with them as well, but I don't think an established link was ever able to be proven. ...
I watched a TLC show on this..I didn't see the very end, but the anthrax was eventually traced back to one of the US's own labs.
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I watched a TLC show on this..I didn't see the very end, but the anthrax was eventually traced back to one of the US's own labs.
yeah heard something along the lines of that as well, that those letters were traced back to one of the US's own labs....and allegedly had something to do with that dept losing funding or something......thus why no-one heard much about it....
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no offense to neone..but

this cannot be just ANYONE ..i mean not everyone has access to a sniper rifle...and can just shoot anyone in the head. NO ONE can just pick up a gun and shoot someone from 500-1000 feet away..its not possible...

But if anyone has been watching the Today show or any other show in which that one guy is on that is "leading the investigation on the police side" he is an ASSHOLE..everyother question is No comment and I dont think we should release that information..that whole tarot card thing...the guy WANTS us to know hes in charge...he just said dont tell the media because he wants the police to know he is the one in charge and he has control..

im not a police investigator and no dont think im the freakin sniper for knowing all this..but i have grown up around cops all my life....i know some shit

oh and just to finish this off... WHO EVER THE HELL GOES AFTER THE CHILDREN OF AMERICA TRYING TO SHOOT/SNIPE/KILL WHATEVER
THEY SHOULD BE FUCKIN LOCKED UP AND/OR KILLED ..they have no right to live for going after children or senior citizens who would have no chance against an older person

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This guy's a real pro.

He's using .223 subsonic rounds thru a silencer from very far away.
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I agree with the fact that the individual(s) behind these shootings are sick fucks, but I don't agree with the bashing of the head of the investigation...

There's a very good reason why they don't want specific information given out. Chances are EXTREMELY good that whoever is perpetrating these crimes has access to a TV, and they are following the coverage of the investigation VERY closely. The more information that is leaked to the media, the more of an edge the sniper has. The less information they give out, the more they keep the sniper guessing "what do they know?". But it's very possible that news sources could give away valuable information that would tip him off to a development in the case, and he would alter his activities in light of that information...

I do NOT believe that this is the work of an Al-Quaida terrorist cell. Although these events have struck fear into many Americans, it is just not their "style". Terrorists (such as those trained by Al-Quaida) are religious fanatics, and when they are involved in an act of terrorism, they believe that they are doing gods bidding, and for that, they are guaranteed a place in heaven. So they strap a bomb to their chest (or whatever) and blow themselves up in a very bold fashion. They don't snipe ate people from afar and then cower from the police.
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Yeah I think this guy is fucked up- I can't imagine what would cause a man to decide to go kill 8 innocent people - It is no way an Al Qaeda attack- the man police are looking for is a White Supremisist
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the man police are looking for is a White Supremisist
Well, since they don't have any suspects identified yet, I highly doubt if they know that they are a White Supremesist. Also, I was under the impression that he has shot a few white people, and that his victims were completely random, even where race is concerned...
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Well, since they don't have any suspects identified yet, I highly doubt if they know that they are a White Supremesist. Also, I was under the impression that he has shot a few white people, and that his victims were completely random, even where race is concerned...
The police are wanting to question Robert someone (can't remember the last name) about the shootings- he has been named a suspect- at least thats what I saw in the Herald
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