few questions...shhh dont tell the honda guys im here!

[PunkAlex]

I live in NC...johnston county for any NC-ers in these here forums....and this is what i would consider mustang country. Well finding a honda that i want round here is damn near impossible and i want something to work on, which is where a 5.0 foxbody would be nice!

I dont know much of the specifics on mustangs so could you guys clear up some shtuff for me please?

1. What were the years that the 5.0 was available carb'd? Fuel injection is nice, but i like tinkering with carbs! If i were to get a fi-ed 5.0 is it hard to tune/responds well to mods? how many people convert their fuel injection to carbeuration? Is the ignition controled by the ecu or just the efi?

2. What years were available iwht 5 speed manuals? how bout 4 speeds manuals? im not a fan of automatics...

3. Whats an average price range for a project type foxbody?

4. Lastly, whats insurance like on these cars?

Thanks for the help and btw i did search, now im looking for specifics!!

[89TX5.0]

Well personally I think fuel injection is better because it is more accurate and delivers more fuel. I think the carb mustangs were like in the 1986 and under. Also I have liability on my 89 mustang and it costs under a $100. So i hope that helps you at all.

[StangNut86]

i personally like EFI better, simply because while other guys are under the hood changing bleeds and jets i'm sitting on the starting line like LETS GO! the ECU controls timing, but most guys switch to an MSD. injected 5.0s respond very well to mods... my car (89 LX 5.0 auto) is bone stock, and it's still pretty quick... and they sound great if you just remove the mufflers and tailpipes, i would know. stock auto 5.0s are typically low 15 cars... if i were to do H/C/I/E/G on mine, it would probably go high 12s, all for less than a couple grand if you know the right people. that's a pretty serious street machine for the non-hardcore. all years of mustang were available with manual trannys. all foxes except for the 4-speeds use a T-5 or an AOD. the SROD-4 isn't a very good transmission, i wouldn't use it personally. it was only available for a few years if memory serves (there was one in my '86 notch 4banger). expect to pay anywhere from 500 to 2000 dollars for a decent, running foxbody. i paid 800 for mine, simply because the seller was desperate for cash, and i lucked out... perfect interior, motor runs great. my 86, which is now gutted, cost me 300. insurance should be around 100/mo. and most guys keep their efi.

hope that helps.

andy

[GTStang]

Originally Posted by PunkAlex

1. What were the years that the 5.0 was available carb'd? Fuel injection is nice, but i like tinkering with carbs! If i were to get a fi-ed 5.0 is it hard to tune/responds well to mods? how many people convert their fuel injection to carbeuration? Is the ignition controled by the ecu or just the efi?

2. What years were available iwht 5 speed manuals? how bout 4 speeds manuals? im not a fan of automatics...

3. Whats an average price range for a project type foxbody?

4. Lastly, whats insurance like on these cars?

Thanks for the help and btw i did search, now im looking for specifics!!

Nice to here from you Alex I know I've seen ya posts in the Honda forum.

1 Ok the 5.0 Fox Stangs were carbed 83-85(85 5.0 autos where CEFI).
Ok as far as FI and 5.0 Stangs there are SD(speed density) and MAF(mass-air flow) fuel injected 5.0's. The SD cars are faster stock becuase they do not have the small stock MAF to choke the air intake path. But the SD cars will have issue with any mod that starts to create large manifold pressure changes(ie big cams). A SD car can be converted to MAF with kits $300-400 or a junkyard set-up. The MAF cars do a good job of adjusting to mods as long as they not very extreme(ie serious drag racing parts). And the MAF set-up can still be easily modified to work with these parts.

2. The T-5 standard was first used in 83 5.0's halfway through production and then in all 5.0's the whole way through the Fox body production run. The 4-speed manual used in Foxes was SROD4 not the badass 4-speed toploader. The SROD4 is junk and parts are very impossible to get avoid this tranny if you can.(not hard)

3. I guess it would depend on how much of a project you want and what you consider a project. Get back to us on that one.

4. Bottom line is it will definetly be more than what a Honda will cost you. But as usual depends on you, the state, type of coverage etc...


Sidenotes:
Switching from FI to carbed is easy.
The stock carbed blocks are flat cams, the FI blocks are roller cams
7.5 rear-ends until 86 then 8.8 rears

GT Registry is a good site for the changes of the Foxes(79-93) from year to year.

[PunkAlex]

wow thats a lot of great info guys! Judging from what you guys said im thinkin id probably look for a MAF 5.0 and keep it that way. As far as "project" i want something stock, running (can be running shitty, but running non the less), decent body (paint optional ha ha). From what you guys have said it shouldnt be hard to find a foxbody with a t-5, eh? Thats good

Ok the reason why I want a 5.0 is cause i hear (like what andy said) they respond very well to mods and arent that hard to make fast. What would be a good setup to put a MAF 5 speed foxbody deep in the 13's? Heads, cam, exaust, injectors? Any suggestions welcome (i know a little but not much!)

Thanks again for the info!

[stang_racer20]

For around $3K - $4K with an H/C/I, some exhaust, a CAI or K&N and GEARS, you could run low 13's or high 12's all day long.

[Hybrid1990crx]

You damn traitor! Get back over to the honda camp before I kick your ass! Fords are for homosexual rednecks anyway!....LOL. Just kidding.

[stang_guy]

he he. the honda police are here.

[StangNut86]

Originally Posted by Hybrid1990crx

You damn traitor! Get back over to the honda camp before I kick your ass! Fords are for homosexual rednecks anyway!....LOL. Just kidding.

*sings* They're coming to take me away, haha, they're coming to take me away!

doood, be cool, just because he wants to go fast for less doesn't mean you have to hate him =)







and no, i have no intention of starting a flamewar here

[HiFlow5 0]

Originally Posted by stang_guy

he he. the honda police are here.

Honda Nation is where it's at! LOL

[Hybrid1990crx]

I don't care. Thats why I said I was just kidding. He can get whatever car he wants.....as long as its a honda...lol.

[StangNut86]

i just sold a honda to buy a mustang... what now biatch ... lol!

[351wStang]

Originally Posted by StangNut86

i just sold a honda to buy a mustang... what now biatch ... lol!

Good move

[Geeko]

hey! another honda guy over here in the 'stang forum... git, you- git!

stang_guy: heh, nice sig... was gonna be like "WTF" on the list until i hit "import wannabe" and "saleen"... damn ricers, kick their asses! :P

i love my honda, but i mostly love driving fast cars... and if i can go fast and get 40mpg, i'm cool with that

actually, i DO have a question- i'm working on an 89 5.0. it's a red hatch with a 5-spd auto and the full race kit (i don't know the exact model, havn't seen the title yet :/ but i think it's a GT ). it's got 380k miles on it (Holy crap) and although it still has plenty of power, it's leaving little blue puffs of smoke wherever it takes off, and they aren't from the tires. the current owner (original owner) is going to finally break down and buy a yota or a honda or something to commute in, so this baby is getting fully rebuilt- mostly by me, Mr. Power-for-cheap . obviously it's going to need seals, bearings, etc.. etc.., and i know i can get stuff for it.

what i really want to do is build the car either for a single large turbo, or for twin-turbo. problem is, i don't know how that particular engine is going to react to FI... am i going to turn that thing into a thousand-pound ball of schrapnel? what kind of overbuilt parts can i source to beef it up? i wanna have fun with it, so sacrificing daily-drivability is a-ok.

oh, and how much hp should that car be making stock? i'm sure it's not making it now, but i want a baseline idea as to what it SHOULD be doing.

thanks, go-fast enthusiasts everywhere

[stang_racer20]

WoW! Honda guys and Ford guys talking politely and laughing together. OHHHHHHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOOOO, did hell freeze over!!? J/K.

Stock hp of 87 to 92 5.0's was 225bhp and 300 ft. lbs of torque. 93 was dropped to 215 hp.