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Old 01-12-2002, 04:01 PM   #1
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Front Strut Tower Bar

Where can I buy a good and cheap one on the internet?
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Old 01-12-2002, 04:02 PM   #2
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Old 01-12-2002, 08:54 PM   #3
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do you really need it? i dont have one (using teins)and the chassis does seem like its twisting on the turns like what I xperience with other cars.
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Old 01-12-2002, 09:59 PM   #4
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you could always measure it and see how much it really does move. Tie a string from one strut tower to the other, make it pretty tight, take some pretty good turns depending on how much your car flexes, it should break if there is a lot of flex. the tighter you make the string initially, the less flex you can have before it'll break. If that makes sense? or even works?
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Hmm just to bring it up, my Acura 3.2TL comes stock with a STB, so you hafta figure that it does something. I would think it definatly reduced body flex...

Now the question is when is there the most flex.
When you go into the turn?
In the Turn?
Going over uneven pavement?
Coming out of the turn?

Hmm...
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Old 01-13-2002, 10:29 PM   #6
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im no expert in sus either, but it seems the way the p11's front suspension is designed, it dont really need a stb. my honda did make a big difference when I put on the stb after its tein install.
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Future mods: dressup wheels with Potenza S03 225/45/17 tires, TurboXS UTec, maybe an uppipe. by then, it'll be fast enough.
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Old 01-14-2002, 08:38 AM   #7
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you could always measure it and see how much it really does move. Tie a string from one strut tower to the other, make it pretty tight, take some pretty good turns depending on how much your car flexes, it should break if there is a lot of flex. the tighter you make the string initially, the less flex you can have before it'll break. If that makes sense? or even works?
Nice experiment. I'd use fishing line though.
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Old 01-14-2002, 06:34 PM   #8
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Nice experiment. I'd use fishing line though.
Yeah, that'd work too. I'd just be afraid (with any type of string) that when it broke it'd get wrapped around a half shaft, or something spinning, and screw it up?
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Not to get off the main subject, but has anyone bought a p10 strut brace from need for speed? They seem to be cheaper then Stillen is charging, i was just wondering what you thought!
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The biggest difference I noticed was when making transition turns. The usual "buck" that wants to turn the car the other way when coming out of the turn is eliminated. There are other plus', but this is the biggest I noticed.
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I don't think a STB can hurt, any chassis stiffening is good, but does the G20 need one? I don't think so. Someone above hit the nail on the head.

In a Macpherson strut suspension, the suspension is located by the strut, so the top of the strut is subject to all sorts of suspension loading and twisting. Since the top of the strus is tied directly to the suspension, when the top of the strut moves, the suspension moves.

In the G20, the suspension is located (correctly) by the suspension. All the strut does is move upo and down and control the motion. Small twisting and movement of the top of the strut tower will will not effect handling because it is not altering the geometry of the suspension like a Macpherson strut would.

Now the rear of the P10 is Macpherson strut, so it could use a STB I am sure.

(Note: The above is my opinion, I'm no expert, but that's how I think it works.)
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Old 01-18-2002, 01:32 PM   #12
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If that is true, which i'm sure it is... how much would a pillow ball mount help out in the rear? I already have something similar in the front with the ground controls, but in the rear it's still the stock top hat thing.... just curious.
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Do you have a pic or a link to an online page about those mounts?
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not one at the moment... let me search though my folders of pictures later today (Sunday) and I'll post one as soon as I find it.
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