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Old 11-26-2003, 11:59 PM   #1
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Ive got a nos question. How much retard in timming do you need for a 100hp shot of NOS? This particular car has an APE chip which naturally advances timming, should the chip stay? Or should it be dumped.

I talked to some gear heads the other day and one guy said if the shot is small enough you dont have to bother with retard in timming. I think I'll research that myself, but I want to know what everyone thinks.
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Old 11-27-2003, 12:52 AM   #2
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If you have a mustang then dont put NOS or any other nitrous at all. If you have an import then I guess its ok I'm not a big fan of nitrous at all. It's just a temporary boost of horsepower. In my opinion save up for a super or a turbo that is horsepower that lasts.
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Old 11-27-2003, 08:59 AM   #3
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Nitrous is cheap and easy, and I don't see a problem with it. Now I would set the timing back to stock, 10*, and ditch the chip! What mods are done to the car to necessitate a chip in the first place?
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Old 11-27-2003, 09:23 AM   #4
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I don't know what year ya car is cause it changes a few things but general rule of thumb for a 100 shot one step colder plugs(learn how to read plugs) and 2 degress retard.

Get rid of that chip!!!!!!!
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Old 11-27-2003, 11:59 AM   #5
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well as long as you don't say it like "nawz" then its cool, i think 100shot shouldn't be a problem. get rid of the chip!!!!!

oh and, when your posting thinka bout calling it N20, gets less people steamed and is the proper name for it. NOS, is a company
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Old 11-27-2003, 10:31 PM   #6
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Nitrous is cheap and easy, and I don't see a problem with it. Now I would set the timing back to stock, 10*, and ditch the chip! What mods are done to the car to necessitate a chip in the first place?
30lb injectors more air added via cobra intake and cold air with K&N,1.7 rollers with 190lgh fuel pump. The chip seems to make the car run cooler as well as increase horse power.
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I bet you can get the same results by just advancing the timing manually, running a performance thermostat and tweaking the fuel pressure. In any case, I would lose the chip if you plan on running nitrous. Was the chip custom burned for your set up, or is it just a generic off the shelf one?
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The chip came out of another mustang same year with same upgrades.
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But was it custom burned, or is it generic? What brand?
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Custom burned, By APE
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As far as chip goes you want a flip chip so that you have two settings one for N/A and one for NO2.
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Re: Nos

The rule of thumb I have gone by is 2degrees for every 50 hp. I use an MSD adjustable timing control for this. I always run 93 at least and if I plan on running the juice I add NOS octaing boost. I have very good luck with this system and it drops over a full second off my 1/4 time slip.
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Think I'll go the supercharger route. I dont think I like the idea of having to refill the bottle. How much boost is enough obviously I'm thinking MAX like 9psi. But I don't want to destroy the engine. How much of a horse power increase can I expect from 6psi?
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Re: Nos

The choice of nitrous also needs to consider what you want to use the car for. If you want the car to be a daily driver, with the occasional ass hauling race, then go with nitrous. If you like to rip it up at the track constantly, or you want a car that is always scratchin the tires, then go with a blower or turbo.

Things to consider though are that a blower cost about 4 to 5 times as much as nitrous. On the other hand, there is no bottle to fill on a blower or turbo...
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Re: Nos

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Ive got a nos question. How much retard in timming do you need for a 100hp shot of NOS? This particular car has an APE chip which naturally advances timming, should the chip stay? Or should it be dumped.

I talked to some gear heads the other day and one guy said if the shot is small enough you dont have to bother with retard in timming. I think I'll research that myself, but I want to know what everyone thinks.


if you have a 5.0, and your run a 100 shot of n2o adjust the timing to 12 degrees, there it is simple and easy.thats all you have to know..o by the way that chip is a waste of money! buy and MSD digital 5.
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