[wolvyreen]

Originally Posted by drunken monkey

whoa, it sounds to me that you are saying that it wouldn't be fair because those who scratchbuild are on a different level in terms of building.
i.e because they are just better.

I'm just glad we are back on topic now To respond to your thoughts monkey, No, I'm not saying that although I can see how it would look like it was that that I was trying to say. I suppose I never made myself clear enough.

Originally Posted by drunken monkey

For a start, that isn't the question here; we're not talking about level of skill of the builder. Rather, we are talking about scratch-building as a method by itself to build a model. You have good scratch builders and bad scratch builders. You have some who will wing it with styrene rods and an exacto and then you have guys who will machine parts out of metal.
It's all scratch-building.
Just because something is scratchbuilt, it doesn't automatically make it god like modelling.

The only concession I can see here is that in a competition context, you're only likely to see one end of the scratch-building spectrum.
With that in mind, would you then consider it fair that guys with lathes and mills and cnc machines be competing with those without?

As I see it, if you start to try and include more catagories in order to try and create a wider field, you will start on a road that will have many catagories with few entrants.

Let me just say upfront that when we talk about scratch built models in general, we are not talking about the scratch builders that intend to build a ferrari and end up building something that looks like it came out of a nuclear waste plant.

Lets forget about engineering or anything else for a sec and simply look at the "antics" of it all if you wish.

When we are all traversing through these forums, and we see excellent models and all praise the builders and tell them what an excellent job they are doing, there seems to be a completely different reaction when we come across someone who has scratch built an entire model from the ground up.

Instead of us all saying and the like, we rather now say . You get where I am going with this?

I assume that this same reaction is carried over in to competitions. Now please forgive me but I am not an experienced modeller and have not attended any competitions. But this is not rocket science. I have done a CRAP load of reading here and research on many different models and I personally have seen the different types of reactions.

Reactions is what gets people "going" if you will. When I post my model updates, I would feel A LOT better if I got the reactions instead of the reactions.

So what I am saying is imagine you were walking around a table and you were looking at 100models on this table, and they were all plastic models out of the box but absolutely stunning, and then you see another STUNNING build and the owner says, "this was scratch built from the ground up". IMMEDIATELY your persona changes to and you tap your buddy on the shoulder and say" hey dewd, omg check this out! WTF".

That's what I was trying to say Sorry for the big post.