[drunken monkey]

i'm not saying anything.
i'm just pointing out that a lot of the things you said in the previous post was arbitary and said without any knowledge or even reference to how/why things are the way they are behind it; as proven by your subsequent thread in the enginnering/techincal forum asking WHY some cars have the engine as a structural part.

the simple reason given is that it means you have less parts and hence less weight.
in case you missed it, the current 4wd systems add weight.
if you have equal weight cars with equal power and the only difference is that one is 4Wd, the 4WD car WILL be faster.
there's a reason why 4WD was banned in British Touring cars is taht even with the heaviest weight penalties, the 4WD cars win.

In the case of Zonda against the Murcielago, the Zonda wns because of massive weight differences; about 400kg depending on whose scales you are using.
This gives the Zonda a massive 100bhp per ton advantage.
that 400kgs has nothing to do with 4WD at least not all 400 kgs of it. Sure it has a lot to do with the packaging of the car but correct me if i'm wrong but are Lamborghini not just as much about being super lush interiored and luxury cars? A super striped out car with bare minimum trim is not traditional Lamborghini.

So what if the new lamborghinis are "civilised".
you do realise that the old cars just had flawed chassis design, right? And that uncivilised is just a nice way of saying it. I don't know about you but i'd prefer to have a car that I can drive to 90% of it's capabilities without worrying about dying.

New LP640 shows they are making a crazy car? Is simply having more power what makes the LP640 crazy?