Spe-V vs WRX

good point. i feel like this is myth busters. this myth is " BUSTED"... only logical explanation is either that indeed was not a wrx, you can easily change the badges and someone that doesn't know what to look for could not recognize the turbo motor, or perhaps you have more mods then you care to share. and i'll say it again best time anyone is gonna see from a FULLY bolted spec v is perhaps 14.3-14.4 on good aftermarket tires. i know this because the V-board has quarter miles posts on top of my experience and what i have seen at the track. heres some numbers to think about:


WRX(stock)
Average 60ft: 2.0
0-60: 5.5
1/4: 14.1-14.3 AVG.

Specv(stock)
Average 60ft: (My best, 2.1)- 2.3
0-60:6.9-7.5 sec
1/4: 15.1-15.5 sec


Stock for stock the wrx is almost a full second faster. like i said MYTH BUSTED!!!! :nono:

why are we posting quarter times again? :repost: in another forum this thread would be closed due to lack of progress, if were still stuck on the quarter mile debate then might as well lock this fucker down, yeah it wins in the quarter, big deal, the fact is they put out around equal wheel horsepower and the wrx is heavier, the only thing i dont know for a fact is the gearing on each car, someone post the gear ratios please, so we can end this, i pulled one form a 45 roll where a spec is at its strongest, yes it was a wrx, not the impreza, idk what boost he was running and i dont think he would have been honest anyways, but he was saving for an sti engine build, after that conversion i dont want any of him, unless someone wants to post up the gear ratios for each car i dont thin ktehres any other fatcs we can bring up to prove one way or the other

why are we posting quarter times again? :repost: in another forum this thread would be closed due to lack of progress, if were still stuck on the quarter mile debate then might as well lock this fucker down, yeah it wins in the quarter, big deal, the fact is they put out around equal wheel horsepower and the wrx is heavier, the only thing i dont know for a fact is the gearing on each car, someone post the gear ratios please, so we can end this, i pulled one form a 45 roll where a spec is at its strongest, yes it was a wrx, not the impreza, idk what boost he was running and i dont think he would have been honest anyways, but he was saving for an sti engine build, after that conversion i dont want any of him, unless someone wants to post up the gear ratios for each car i dont thin ktehres any other fatcs we can bring up to prove one way or the other
here you go boyo.... (http://members.tripod.com/wrx_act/tech/wrx_faq.htm) this should help.

well, as far as i'm conserned your full of crap. cause you didn't beat a WRX. i was trying to be kind and state some facts to help you realize your mistake, but it all comes down to a wrx will kill a spec v. they have no where near the same wheel horsepower. and a race from a roll is just another form of drag racing only without the launch, where a spec v basically sucks at. A stock wrx will make over 170 WHP. a stock Specv will make 145whp MAX! the wrx you raced that was moded was probably making over 200 at the wheels. you are making maybe 155-160 if your lucky. its bull crap there is no way you beat him. if you don't mind lying to yourself and living in a dream world thinking you beat an actual wrx then so be it, but no one wants to here your bullcrap story. Conclusion, NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!

ohhhh i see, i forgot that i dont really know anything about cars, my bad dude

well you obviously don't know the car you drive and ones you race.

um dave...chill out geez. we aren't MAGAZINE racing. its called from a ROLL. and go realease your stress somewhere else like in the stress posting area in the forums or something. you driving me crazy just sayin that you're right by using CAPS!!! sheesh...just take into it that maybe the driver was part of it. honestly i dont care and as long as you stop bashing on saying a spec v can't beat a wrx on anything, its not true. anycar can beat anything if the driver isn't as well as to control the car to its full potentional....go back into the domestic forums with your firebird where you can argue and everyone will agree with you......

well, as far as i'm conserned your full of crap. cause you didn't beat a WRX. i was trying to be kind and state some facts to help you realize your mistake, but it all comes down to a wrx will kill a spec v. they have no where near the same wheel horsepower. and a race from a roll is just another form of drag racing only without the launch, where a spec v basically sucks at. A stock wrx will make over 170 WHP. a stock Specv will make 145whp MAX! the wrx you raced that was moded was probably making over 200 at the wheels. you are making maybe 155-160 if your lucky. its bull crap there is no way you beat him. if you don't mind lying to yourself and living in a dream world thinking you beat an actual wrx then so be it, but no one wants to here your bullcrap story. Conclusion, NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!

.......u r only comparing the hp,
how about un....
weight?
tran ratio?
torque?
turbo lag?

ok, maybe wrx wins, but won't be "very much"

well im done arguing about it because i dont have to prove anything to a magazine racer about what i do with my car, then again its typical of car forums for this to happen, no matter who you are there is someone out there who knows that you're wrong :thefinger:

now i'm a magazine racer? excuses excuses. i know from fact real life experiences. i'm not bashing any one car i'm just stateing facts. i used to own a spec v and i raced it a lot so i know a lot about this topic. i had twice as many mods, twice as much power, and twice as much experience on the track and on the street. i know what i'm saying. the wrx weighs roughly 3100 pounds thats only 200 more pounds then the sentra. the wrx more then makes up for that weight and then some. stock for stock the wrx puts out 30 whp more then the specv. and thats at the wheels so drivetrain loss has already been calculatted in the equation. The turbo is very small and spools fast so turbo lag isn't even an issue. and as i recall supposedly this wrx had an intake and something else. if any thing the intake would help it spool even faster so there is no lag here. and going on the mods you said you had your car is barley putting out more power then stock. your lucky to be putting out 155-160 whp. that wrx with those mods is probably putting down 190whp at least. theres no way that you coulda straight up beat that wrx. now if he wasn't racing or just toying with you, not full throttle, i can see that. a lot of ppl make that mistake and come back and post, " oh my moms taurus beat a z06". probably cause the guy wasn't even racing lol. my advice is go race him again, make sure he is racing and get it on tape. thats what i have learned when i have posted stories or kills. the only way ppl are gonna believe you is if there is lagit proof. But from my stand point and what i know i don't believe it.

well i know for a fact that he was racing because i jumped on him one time and ripped him by like three cars, i was like, that wasnt right, so i slow back down, and beep the horn three times and then we went, a taurus wont beat a z06, i know that, i still pulled him by not even a car by about 80 then he started pulling top end, im not trying to say i beat him by miles or anything, but i pulled him nonetheless, so it IS possible, saying that it isnt is very ignorant, and the only reason i keep going wiht this is im sick of people online assuming that everyone else is stupid and they are the only ones that know ANYTHING...... when i first joined i had nothing but respect for the people on here and valued their opinions, even if i didnt agree, fugiot, when is the last time i told you that youre an idiot and you dont know anyhting about your car, because i know better? the last time ive done that to someone was about oh..... never, have some respect for people, it only makes you look like a douche

and the wrx weighs 400 pounds more, please re-read my original calcs about power to weight in each car, im not posting it again

forget it...imma just let this thread die....it not worth arguing it over the internet....sheesh...let it die in peace....

that thing you posted was like every japanese version of a wrx starting from 1994. it really had nothing to do with the american version. i did a search online and the number i found was roughly 3100 lbs. a specv weighs in anywhere from 2800 - 2900 lbs. And did you think i was serious when i said a taurus can beat a zo6? its called sarcasm. obviously a car with 380hp that weights 3000 lbs is gonna beat a shitty family car that makes 180hp and weighs twice as much. Anyhow have you had your car dyno'd or even been to the track with it? If you did you would know your story is far feched.

Check this out:
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/3079/148400MVC-014F1-med.JPG
14.59 in my fully bolted spec v. and thats a fairly quick time for the mods i had. i had, JWT cams, AEM cold air intake, UR pulley, Balance shaft removal kit, hotshot header,and motor mounts. a freakin automatic wrx with rosan bar driving it would run faster than 14.5. and the funny thing is your no where near that quick. at best your running 14.8. your cars slow right now man theres no way your car can beat a wrx from a roll. and whats up with this roll shit. be a man and race from a stop. only posers race from a roll cause they have no skills and don't know how to launch a FWD car. your not making enough power to spin like crazy off the line if you slip it so be a man and learn how to drag race like a big boy. heres a pic of the beaut:
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/3079/148400MVC-018S1-med.JPG

i am well aware of the differences in roll racing vs from a dig, and in my opinion a fwd car will get roasted by a rwd or awd car with just half the power in at least 1st gear, prolly more like 2nd before the fwd car catches up, its even worse the more power you make, if you are familiar with the spec you should know its hard as hell to launch even with just an intake, if you havent gotten it by now ill let you know again, i am well aware of the fact that the wrx, hell even the base model impreza probably runs faster in the quarter than even a fully bolted spec, but im not arguing about this race from a roll anymore, do you know just how important the launch in a race is? its probably about 30% of a race bewteen unevenly modded cars, but more like 90% of the difference in equal cars, the wrx and spec put down numbers that are similar enough to put them in that category where the launch makes about 90% of the difference in the race, and since the wrx has all wheel drive it will kill the spec everytime from a stop, no questioning that, but those cars are also so close together that from a roll its pretty interesting, take the launch out of the equation, which you refuse to do, and youve got a pretty even race, depednign on who reacts first it can go either way, i was fortunate enough to react first vs the wrx and i beat him, im sure if he had reacted a little faster he might have pulled me, or we may have stayed even, and by this i dont mean i hit the gas and then he decided to race 10 seconds later, so dont even post that, we set it up ahead of time, becasue this thread had already been started and i wanted to see. idk what your beef is but why not be a little more open minded

heres what i think. stock wrx's run 14.3 and wrx wagons run 14.5-14.8.. i'm running 14.5 with just an intake,header and balanceshaft kit. thats a max cost of 700 bucks with tax and shipping. so it won't take many mods or a lot of cash to get there. the wrx is only quicker because of the better 60ft times due to the awd launches. on the highway i think my spec v could give a stock wrx a run for the money. a wagon will get beat. last time i went to the track there was new forester with the wrx engine in it running 14.7, which could be comparable to a wrx wagon.



and what happened to this statement right here? you switch sides more than colin powell

look (http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/chip_berry/92b975dd.jpg)

here are the specs for the WRX do note this is for a 06 .
note the AWD part of the WRX .

yea i still stand by what i said. MY specv ran 14.5, yours doesn't, and i was referring to a stock wrx not a moded one. lastley i said i'd give it a run for the money. you said you beat that one dude pretty badly. so where did i contradict myself? The wrx can greatly benefit from an awd launch, but fact is many ppl won't launch them hard.

I tryed reading that link but the text is like tiny.

just killed one last night, my intake header pulley vs his exhaust and intake, pulled him from 45, not by much but when we got to 80 he was a half car behind



how badly is one half car, and it really wasnt that, more like he was a little past my rear bumper

on specplace.com there is a review of a spec vs a wrx 5 speed, you can look it up if you want, the spec loses horribly in a straight drag, the wrx gets it from the launch and pulls the whole way, but from a street start at 30mph going to 50 the spec pulls the wrx by a tenth of a second, 2.31 to the wrx's 2.42........ maybe im not the only crazy one thinking the spec can pull it from a roll, and i ran him from 45 which means my gearing would have been slightly more wound up than it would have at 30 so i pull harder anyways

can you get a link to that article i looked all over that site and i couldn't find it. anyhow that site kinda under rates the spec. they say it does the 1/4 in 15.5. which i guess it depends on the driver, but i ran 15.1 in mine bone stock.

Info
2002 Spec V
2003 Spec V
2004+ 2005 Spec V

0-60
7.5
7.5
7.5

1/4 Mile
15.55 @ 88.9
15.55 @ 88.9
15.55 @ 88.9

Lateral-g
.88
.88
.89

Slalom Speed*
68.5 MPH
68.5 MPH
71.0 MPH

60-0 Stopping
140 ft
134 ft
134 ft

these are some stats i found on that site.

http://www.car-videos.com/performance/view.asp?ID1=115&ID2=3 its under quick comparison on the left, then theres a scroll bar up top to pick out basicly any car and compare their times

thats a pretty good comparison. i guess in there test from 30-50 the spec is slightly faster i think thats just do to akward gearing. the spec does have really short gearing. but the thing is who races from 30-50. i mean from 30-50 that just might fall in the pefect gearing for the spec. a more interesting result i saw was 5-60, which is indeed a real go from a roll. rolling at 5 mph totally takes the awd benefit out of the equation which is what you guys feel is what makes the wrx faster. in that test the wrx from a roll reached 60 faster:

Street Start, 5-60 mph 7.10 s(spec) 6.28 s (WRX)

so you see from a roll in this test the wrx is still faster.

ive spun tires from a 10mph roll before, i seriously boubt the wrx does......point being that when the launch is removed, the spec stands a chance, and even though it pulls the wrx it does get reeled in high end, although barely, i just think its very close-minded to say that a car cannot do something without solid proof, also in that same test the wrx really didnt gain much time over the spec as distance increased, which tells you it doesnt pull much, so if you can jump out to a half a car or so, it will be there for a while

well in that 5-60 comparison they simply are in first gear rolling at 5mph and then they just wack the gas. in that situation your car won't spin the tires unless you rev it and dump it which defeats the test. i also studied the 0-120mph times and the wrx does slowly pull away. the higher the speeds the more it pulls away. i mean shoot it takes the spec almost 10 seconds longer to reach 110mph. by that time the wrx will be refueling at the gas station lol.. lets stick to what you said you raced from. which was 45-80 as a i recal you stated. in this test between the two stock cars it takes the spec 6.67 seconds to go from 50-80 and it takes the wrx 6.07 seconds to do the same. thats a fairly decent walk dude. i just don't find it believable that the race you talked about coulda took place. especially with the wrx being moded. mod for mod the wrx will make bigger gains do to the fact that its a forced induction car. don't mean to shit on your parade but that dude can't drive or something and if it were anyone else you woulda got served pretty good. I mean this victory of yours over your buddy was no more a win then a ricer drive by lol

so youve never spun your tires from 5mph before? we'll leave it at that

so youve never spun your tires from 5mph before? we'll leave it at that
not in my sentra. at 5mph your only pulling like 1500rpm's if you wack the gas at that point i bet the qr25 is making like 100whp at 1500rpm. theres no way you can break the tires loose. i remember my spec v pretty well if you wacked the gas lets say going 25mph it would sqeel them. that was only when i was fully moded.

i broke them loose doing 15mph today just to make sure, i had to bag the tires down to 20psi before they wouldnt squeel anymore

nice. thats just wacking the gas with the clutch out right? you spun pretty badly or kinda lunged forward at the same time? i mean theres no argueing the wrx has an advantage cause its awd, but i don't think it has much advantage from a roll. what i'm trying to get at is that the wrx still pulls away.

thats a pretty good comparison. i guess in there test from 30-50 the spec is slightly faster i think thats just do to akward gearing. the spec does have really short gearing. but the thing is who races from 30-50. i mean from 30-50 that just might fall in the pefect gearing for the spec. a more interesting result i saw was 5-60, which is indeed a real go from a roll. rolling at 5 mph totally takes the awd benefit out of the equation which is what you guys feel is what makes the wrx faster. in that test the wrx from a roll reached 60 faster:

Street Start, 5-60 mph 7.10 s(spec) 6.28 s (WRX)

so you see from a roll in this test the wrx is still faster.

most ppl race from 30 or 40 to whatever on the highway,
I haven't seen anyone start rolling with just 5mph.

anyway, at least we all no from 30-50 specv stands a chance vs wrx

yea i suppose from 30-50. thats like not even a whole gear lol i think its clear the wrx is faster.

yeah no revving or anything, just whacked the gas, it doesnt light them on fire or anything but i did get a 2-3 second squeel out of them, not just a chirp or anything

I agree.. It's impossible not to light up the tired from a 5-10 mph roll in the spec if you mash it. However, we have to realize this guys. The spec? It's an awesome car. We all like them and we all respect them. HOWEVER: The bottom line is that the WRX wins with it's AWD because it is a BETTER CAR. It's like trying to compare a mustang to a corvette. Just let the WRX have this one.

teh spec pwns teh mustang AND corvette......lol

i had the JWT cams in my spec so i had just a little less torque down low, but man it sure made up for it.

the vq35 swapped sentra went 12.9 in the quarter, just thought id let you guys know, that swap is next up on my list in about a month or so

holy shit this thread is still open?

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/2932484750502_w560h420.jpg

thats gonna cost you a ton of money. whats the Vq35 the altima and maxima engine? i know there is a race car that is a sentra with a maxima drivetrain and its all built up. the freakin thing blows tranny's all the time. you know you should just get a turbo kit and run low boost. a ton of guys are doing it.

thats gonna cost you a ton of money. whats the Vq35 the altima and maxima engine? i know there is a race car that is a sentra with a maxima drivetrain and its all built up. the freakin thing blows tranny's all the time. you know you should just get a turbo kit and run low boost. a ton of guys are doing it.
I agree.. the spec badass and potent when done right....look here (http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/november05/feature/)
http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/november05/feature/images/16_tn.jpg
http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/november05/feature/images/antone_timeslip.jpg

enjoy...

the stock maxima engine is 200 million times more reliable than a turbo qr25 is, it also is faster, believe it or not, it makes a wider powerband and travis beat the old b15 quarter record by 4 tenths of a second, the old record was held by a qr25 sentra with a full stage 3 turbo kit by PTI.......the vq35 swap barks 4th gear hard:naughty: there is a video on b15sentra.net that you can download of the sentra's passes, there is no video of the 12.9 second run though......this swap is priced at 4500 dollars and is about the same as the PTI stage 3 kit if not less, there is no reason not to get this over a turbo, plus imagine if the vq was modded.........:bananasmi

the guy above was running 13 flat with 275whp. at 9.5psi he made 300whp thats faster then a 12.9. think about it a stock 3.5 makes like 220whp stock. and how are you gonna do bolt ons. you'd have to have custom exhaust, cause ther isn't a company out there that makes hybrid parts. custom intake. just a whole bunch of custom stuff and even when that 3.5 is fully bolted you'll be making less then the guy above on low boost. not only that you will have spent way more cash. i'm guessing a 3.5 engine costs a lot of cash. then you need to heavily mod it. I'm a fan of nicley put together turbo kits. if you know what your doing it will be the best option.

custom parts are not an issue, all you have to do is get aftermarket parts for a maxima engine, which are plentiful, along with some 350z cams, hell you could swap 350z internals basicly, throw in a 150 shot for kicks and youve got 370hp without the bolt ons at all, bolt it up and youre looking at 450 or so, turbo that and you dont even want to know, turbo on a qr25 is a waste

you can only push out around 300hp on a qr25 without worrying about it blowing up, and even still you are putting your rods under extreme stress, the vq swap is as relaible as a 6 speed maxima, you dont see them throwing rods do you? also that motor can handle a 150 shot of nitrous no problem, and can also hodl up to around 400hp on stock internals, which puts it less likely to explode than the qr25

it's deffinatly not as easy as buying after market maxima parts. you have a totally different chassis nothing fits the same. turbo on a QR is deffinatly not a waste of time. force induction more then makes up for the displacment of the 3.5. and where is your proof that tells you a 3.5 will hold a 150 shot after bolt ons? i fully bolted 3.5 might give you 250at the wheels. you have to remember its not the same setup as a 350z they have totally different tunes. the 350z is tuned for higher power. i agree that the 3.5 can hold more power but 150 shot is a bit much with stock internals. plus how would you tune the ecu? i highly doubt they have reflashes out for 150 shots. with a 150 shot your gonna need to retard the timing a good chunk. seeing how these cars are so complicatted the only way to do anything is through the ecu.

what i'm getting at is that i don't think your being logical about this. it seems like you just think of the better more expensive maxima and think hey i want that motor. a turbo kit will be much easier then swaping an entire engine/harness/ecu, swapping the motor mounts and from what i been reading you can't use the maxima bell housing. it's way too much work and costs way too much to be worth the effort. you can make 275whp on a QR25 with a turbo kit easily and reliably. i know this cause many ppl have been doing it. trust me once you price it all out the turbo kit will be much cheaper and produce better numbers. i dunno how you figure a turbo kit costs more anyhow they run around 3500 bucks on average:

Power Tech Imports turbo kit : 3395

Forced Induction Racing : 3595

lol im just going to come out and say it, youre retarded, fully bolting a v6 that puts out 225 to the wheels stock will only get you 25 more horsepower? a header and intake will get that on the 4 cylinder qr25, swap 350z cams and pistons, port and polish the head, and use the 350z track edition ecu youve got yourself the 350 motor basicly, that should put out around 315 unless im missing something, the maxima bellhousing WILL fit, travis sure as hell got it to, the maxima engine itself is around 1800 and the only thing you really need ot fab are some mount adapters, you dont even need new mounts. as far as the chassis comment, the vq35 altima shares the same chassis as the qr25 powered altima, how did they get that v6 in there big guy? guess they did the mounting a little different, which is exactly what a set of mount adapters will get you from travis for around 200 bucks. An sr20 swap probably runs around the same amount as the v6 swap and thats if you do the sr20 swap the right way, people swap DETs all day, no one tells them its too much money? I think youve still got beef about that pulley dispute and you just feel the need to argue with me about everything i say, think about it, whens the last time youve heard a sentra bark 4th gear? i havent even heard a turbo spec do that, power numbers dont always matter, the range of the v6 powerand is much greater than a turbo powerband and therefore launches better and does better at the track, both turbo manifolds will fit in the engine bay with the v6 swap and there is room enough for a turbo up front, boosted projections are estimated 400whp on pump gas, you have 2 more cylinders to make power in in a v6 motor, which is basicly your argument why the wrx beats a spec, because it makes more power due to forced induction, anyone who recommends F/I power over an equal amount of N/A power is just plain stupid, N/A is MUCH more reliable than any F/I power you can make, which saves money in the long run. And i had a friend who ran a 150 shot in his maxima for 2 years without incident, those motors can handle a lot

and the stage three PTI kit is 4800......thats 300 more than the v6 swap......

heres the link to travis' thread on the b15forums, let me know if you realize that your the only person alive that thinks the v6 swap is too much money and not as good as a turbo :thumbsup:

http://www.b15sentra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=120769

you have just been pwned by the nismo pilot



:nutkick:

i read the "travis" thread already. and he had to swap the maxima bellhousing with the sentra bellhousing. and he even stated it was a pain in the ass. secondly that turbo kit only costs 3500 bucks i know cause i went to the site. anyone that pays 4800 bucks for a entry level turbo kit is just uneducated on turbo kits. have you even thought of putting a turbo kit together yourself? it would be even cheaper then one you would buy. Anyhow i'm not saying the QR25 is a better engine. it's a known fact the 3.5 is better. thats not my point. my point is a turbo'd qr25 makes more power then a 3.5 with bolt ons. and if you argue that someone should stomp on your face. And if you think a fully bolted 350z 3.5 makes 318 at the wheels your wrong. do some damn research newbie.http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/projects/projectaltima.php.. this 3.5 in an altima only makes 260 whp after cams, full exhaust, and a tune. your not gonna pull another 58 whp out of it. i don't care what you say, cause your just another poser fag, a turbo kit is better then swaping the engine. your not gonna rebuild that 3.5 and boost it and you know it so save yourself the hassle, buy a turbo kit and go blow your engine up cause your just another poser that will set the boost at 3 bar. heres a fully bolted 350Z and it makes 258 whp. theres absolutley no way your gonna make 318whp on a 350z without forced induction.http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/july03/350cams/

and what pulley insident are you talking about?

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STAGE III ADD $795 to the $4095 + $150 shipping and you will have the full out kit which will have full 3” cat back system (choice of Magnaflow muffler) with test pipe, Autometer EGT and Oil pressure and 3 gauge pillar pod color matched

let me know where you see 3500 in there.....copy and paste from the spec v turbo kit page form powertech imports

Do you post on the V-board?" they have a thread that lists all the turbo kits made for spec v's. i visisted a bunch of there sites and they run 3500 on average. obviously higher stage levels are gonna run you more.
http://forums.thevboard.com/viewtopic.php?t=33471

didn't see a price on the stage one kit, but on the V-board in the list i posted above theres these numbers:
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 8:23 am Post subject: **Official turbo list for the QR**

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I was doing some research on turbo kits, and I thought this might be helpful for others as well. Maybe become a sticky??

I apologize for any info that are incorrect or missing. Please feel free to pm me if you have any updates or any info that I have missed. Also, sorry for not asking any of you for permission to put your cars on here. If you want me to take you off this thread, please feel free to pm me. Also, if you are not on this thread, and would like to be, pm me too.



Forced Induction Racing
www.fi-r.com

pics:
Dions’s car aka chillboy



Mike's auto se-r


Norlandt's car


videos:
http://gallery.thevboard.com/users/Trav4011/videos/specvdyno1.mpeg
http://www.fi-r.com/images/Dionscarpreview.WMV
http://www.fi-r.com/images/Dionscardriving1.WMV
http://www.fi-r.com/images/Dionscardriving2.WMV
http://gallery.thevboard.com/users/Trav4011/videos/norlandt%20turbo%20sentra%20-%20hybrid%20dyno.WMV
http://gallery.thevboard.com/users/SnowMan/Videos/Norlandt1.wmv

dyno charts:
Norlandt’s car aka cubanprince1


Mike’c car aka mcw75


cost:
Standard - $3595
Standard w/ Internals - $7825
Starter (shipped) - $2395
Entry Level (shipped) - $2995

parts:
Standar Kit:
Precision Turbo/Garrett T3/T04B Hybrid
Tial 38mm wastegate(preset at 6.5psi, can be raised to 8psi safely)
Spearco Front mount intercooler
38lb MSD injectors (flow balanced)
Injector clips
HKS Standard blow off valve
Mandrel bent TIG welded and bead rolled Intercooler piping kit
3" inlet pipe with hose barbs for BOV recirculation and crankcase vent
TIG welded Turbo manifold
2.5" downpipe with flex section
Dump tube from wastegate (recirculated into the downpipe)
Apexi Super AFC
Fuel pressure regulator
Fuel return line and fittings
Fuel pump modification instructions and parts
Fuel pressure guage (for under hood)
Autometer boost guage
Guage mounting pods
Silicone hose connectors (for intercooler piping)
Gaskets for turbo/manifold
Cone air filter
Clamps for intercooler piping
Install instructions
Oil feed/drain lines

Stater kit:
T3/T04B turbo with ported exhaust housing
FI-R turbo manifold
FI-R 2.5" alluminized downpipe (TIG welded with flex section)
2.5" ALLUMINUM mandrel bent intercooler piping kit
3" ALLUMINUM inlet pipe with bungs for BOV recirculation and crank vent
Gaskets for turbo and oil drain
T3 oil drain flange
Oil feed and drain lines
All fittings needed (including BSPT to NPT adaptor for oil sending unit)
38mm external wastegate with 4.5-5psi spring
Polished cone air filter
Silicone hose connectors and reducers
High-TQ clamps for piping
Spearco bar and plate intercooler

Entry Level Kit:
T3/T04B turbo with ported exhaust housing
FI-R turbo manifold
FI-R 2.5" alluminized downpipe (TIG welded with flex section)
2.5" ALLUMINUM mandrel bent intercooler piping kit
3" ALLUMINUM inlet pipe with bungs for BOV recirculation and crank vent
Gaskets for turbo and oil drain
T3 oil drain flange
Oil feed and drain lines
All fittings needed (including BSPT to NPT adaptor for oil sending unit)
38mm external wastegate with 4.5-5psi spring
Polished cone air filter
Silicone hose connectors and reducers
High-TQ clamps for piping and fuel lines
Goodyear fuel injection hose and return line
Fittings and clamps for fuel lines
Fuel pressure guage for under hood
Apexi SAFC II
PTI Fuel pressure regulator
Spearco bar and plate intercooler
Bosch recirculation valve (Blow off valve)
Recirculation valve hose and clamps


options:
Piston and rod combo (4mm longer rods and higher wrist pin)- 1550.00
Camshafts - 595.00
Engine sleeving - 1295.00
Head and main stud kit- 395.00
Valvesprings- 295.00



Power Tech Imports turbo kit
www.powertechimports.com

pics:
Kav’s car


video:
http://gallery.thevboard.com/users/KAV/PTI/100_0036.AVI

dyno chart:


cost
Stage 1 - $3395
Stage 2 - $3895
Stage 3 - $4790

stage three kit makes around 300whp as stated by the b15 member who went 13.3 in the quarter, slicks were projected to put him mid 12's, stock v6 swap put travis at 12.9, bang for buck and reliability would go to the NA motor......

perhaps it is cheaper to swap the motor as well as more reliable, but your not gonna go as fast as a turbo'd spec can. and you can argue that till your blue in the face but it's just not gonna happen.

dont have to argue it, there are already quarter numbers that speak for themselves 12.9 is about as fast as youd go with a turbo anyways, spend the 4-500 in difference on some bolt ons for the v6 and you'll go even faster

wow dave
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/2387/stfu27dd.jpg your a retard if you think the qr has even close to the potential of the vq. seriously. try to make 400 whp with a QR25 turbo. then watch your pistons fly through the valve cover and the rods shoot through the oil pan.

thanks slideways, i was wondering if anyone was going to jump in, sometimes it feels so lonely in here being the only one who has a clue.......

thats the thing you really don't have a clue. i never said the QR25 was better. anyways go ahead and do what you want. just seems a little retarded to have a fairly new car and rip the motor out. good luck with your dream

hahahaha v6 swap for teh win!!!!!!!!