haha!!! just my luck!

So recently i posted a thread on here about my car not getting spark even tho i had power to the coil. found the problem and fixed it. the crank sensor wire was threaded into the top starter bolt. NOW i have a new problem. after i pulled the motor and put in a timing chain and a rear main oil seal, the transmission started to leak today. this mornig it was just a couple drops but i just got back from work, i went to the the store and now the leak has seriously got WWWAAAAAAAYYYYYYY worse than just a couple drops. i put in a 24 ounce bottle of lucas, since it was a small leak. well 4 hours later it all ran out. what i need to know is. since the transmisison is a 5 speed, is there a seal or something in the front that can be easily replaced? i know im gonna have to pull the transmission out and everything but like a dumbass i never looked at it to see what kind of shape it was in. this is my first saturn and im not to familiar with it. you guys have been awesome so far and i could really use your help AGAIN. thanks in advance.

Mike:banghead:

So recently i posted a thread on here about my car not getting spark even tho i had power to the coil. found the problem and fixed it. the crank sensor wire was threaded into the top starter bolt. NOW i have a new problem. after i pulled the motor and put in a timing chain and a rear main oil seal, the transmission started to leak today. this mornig it was just a couple drops but i just got back from work, i went to the the store and now the leak has seriously got WWWAAAAAAAYYYYYYY worse than just a couple drops. i put in a 24 ounce bottle of lucas, since it was a small leak. well 4 hours later it all ran out. what i need to know is. since the transmisison is a 5 speed, is there a seal or something in the front that can be easily replaced? i know im gonna have to pull the transmission out and everything but like a dumbass i never looked at it to see what kind of shape it was in. this is my first saturn and im not to familiar with it. you guys have been awesome so far and i could really use your help AGAIN. thanks in advance.

Mike:banghead:

The output shaft (driveaxle) seals can be easily replaced and those are a common place for tranny fluid leaks. Any change in how it drives? The massive leak could be from awful diff pin failure which usually cracks the tranny case open and causes a massive loss of fluid.

There is no change in how it drives. 4th gear made a bunch of noise until i put fluid in it. then it stopped. i avoided 4th gear like the black plague on the way home from work. th fluid is coming out between the bell housing and the motor where it bolts togethor.

There is the input shaft seal, but that is it. Either way that tranny needs to come out for inspection. If the Diff pin is bad you'll see small hole where its starting to poke a hole through it. You can also check the pin through the Speed sensor hole either before or after you take the tranny out.

The output shaft (driveaxle) seals can be easily replaced and those are a common place for tranny fluid leaks. Any change in how it drives? The massive leak could be from awful diff pin failure which usually cracks the tranny case open and causes a massive loss of fluid.

If the diff pin is bad where would i find it? i havent driven it since i caught the leak. i have to go to the dealer to get an input shaft seal for i since none of the auto parts stores can get one. either way i gotta fix it by this weekend. im gonna replace the output shaft seals also while its out. to try and save any furthur hassles. if it is the diff pin how would i go about replacing that?

If the diff pin is bad where would i find it? i havent driven it since i caught the leak. i have to go to the dealer to get an input shaft seal for i since none of the auto parts stores can get one. either way i gotta fix it by this weekend. im gonna replace the output shaft seals also while its out. to try and save any furthur hassles. if it is the diff pin how would i go about replacing that?

You would need a new differential. Tear the tranny down to remove the old one and put the new one in. Weld the diff pin on the new one first.

If the diff pin is bad, you can see it through the VSS hole with a mirror.

You would need a new differential. Tear the tranny down to remove the old one and put the new one in. Weld the diff pin on the new one first.

If the diff pin is bad, you can see it through the VSS hole with a mirror.

Are these a pretty common thing to go bad? it doesnt make any weird noise when its full but the fluid pretty much just runs right out where the motor and trans bolt togethor. when the fluid level gets low it only makes noise in 4th gear. 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th and reverse are fine

Unfortunately Yes. Its easier to just replace the tranny with a junkyard one.

The pin most likely put a small hole in the bell housing. You can see the pin through the VSS hole. If its loose you'll be able to push it with your finger :/ This will help verify the issue.

I have posted a video for this before. If you cant find it lemme know.

wow that sucks. i took off the battery tray and the ecu to get a good look at it. is the speed sensor the only one directly on top of the trans? by the shift linkage? if so it has a little ball on the end of it and i couldnt see any pin or move anything in there with a long bolt i was using. i couldnt get my finger in there to move anything the hole was only about a half inch wide.

now im starting to get nervous becuase i really dont have the money to get another trans right now

i even called a local saturn dealer and spoke to a mechanic. he told me that for my particular car i wouldnt see the hole (if there was one) unless i completely pulled the transmission.

He's correct.

I suggested looking at the videos I posted and if you could not find them to let me know. You were looking through the Reverse Light Switch hole on the shift tower. No where near the Differential and the Vehicle Speed Sensor hole.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gqhGC5vKDY

A bad one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2us1JT_vRY

Final Diagnosis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBogvPdEIrU&NR=1

wouldnt it make a bunch of noise in all gears tho?

wouldnt it make a bunch of noise in all gears tho?

Sometimes, sometimes not. Check the pin

Sometimes, sometimes not. Check the pin


man that sucks. im not gonna be able to do today since its dark out. i have limited space so it might have to wait until tommorow or thursday. i did find a few metal shaving on the dipstick, and when i put trannfy fluid in it to get a better look nothing cam out until i started it. what looks like a small white cotton pad about a half inch by an inch came out of it too. im gonna have to take it to a friends and get a better look at it. thanks. ill repost what i find as soon as i can

what year transmissions will fit? im sure i can find one in a junkyard somewhere and maybe take it apart to weld the diff pin.

Car vitals?

Car vitals?


2000 SL2

1.9 dual overhead cam engine (vin code 7)

5 speed

Any MP3 tranny from '93-'02.

You need to use a '00-'02 flywheel, pressure plate, and clutch disk.

Any MP3 tranny from '93-'02.

You need to use a '00-'02 flywheel, pressure plate, and clutch disk.

im assuming this means any 5 speed trans?

im assuming this means any 5 speed trans?

No.

Only from '93-'02.

And only an MP3 (DOHC) tranny.

No.

Only from '93-'02.

And only an MP3 (DOHC) tranny.


ok thats makes it alot easier to find then. i owe you big time for all your trouble in helping me. if you ever come down to pittsburgh be sure to look me up.

Ok so its been awhile since ive been on here and i forgot to post a reply for the solution. i called around to the local junkyards and just about gave up hope when i buddy of mine called a mechanic shop and he said he had one that he would sell me. he gave me the number and i called him and talked to him for a few minutes and finally he gave me a price. apparently a kid came in with a 99 SL2 and got him to put a clutch in it. a couple days later he never paid for the labor so he called. about a week after that the kid hit a deer and totalled the car and he got the call to tow it. sold a bunch of parts off of it and kept the tranny and clutch. so i got a tranny with 56,000 miles and a brand new clutch, pressure plate and throw out bearing, PLUS a motor for my sunroof for 350 bucks. CANT BEAT THAT!!!!!! he said the kid put 500 miles on the car since the time he pt in the clutch and the time he wrecked it. By the way it was the diff pin. THANKS GUYS.....THIS SITE HAS PROVED TO BE MORE THAN HELPFUL IN TIMES IM STUCK SCRATCHING MY HEAD!!!!!!:)