5th Gen Camaro Concept Pics

I uploaded these to my server because they disappeared from the original website. The 4th gen camaro was killed because it didn't meet the new NTSB safety standards and couldn't be modified to do so.

http://members.shaw.ca/LT1Z28/5th_Gen_Camaro_1.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/LT1Z28/5th_Gen_Camaro_2.jpg

Website said something about an independent wishbone suspension and meeting new NTSB regulations.

It also mentioned a 2004/2005 launch date.

Here's some other concepts below designed by owners.

http://www.gminsidenews.com/5contest.shtml

That being said, the Firebird is dead and will stay dead for a very long time. They were thinking of slapping the Firebird name on the Solstice...thank god they didn't.

The top one reminds me of my 69 Camaro

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/95182969camaro.jpg

I'd roll in that.:coolguy:

i like the top one , never liked the hideaway lights a whole lot. Id buy into something like that , you can see the heritage on them , they look like modern 1rst gens , would be a good competitor for the new retro mustang :)

I'll take the second one in the orange color to go please :D

While I'm still not to big on the old school styling, I would definately roll in that. It's got a hot rod style with some exotic features as well. PLEASE GM MAKE THIS CAR....PLEEAAASSSEEEE!!!!!

The orange camaro looked pretty cool like a first generation grill and the orange color looked awesome on it.

is that a real pic or CGI ?
The glare looks funny...

Since this thread is dug up, I will reply... LancasterWannaBe, they are obviously computer animated pictures... I like the styling a lot. They look a little too much like the first generation Camaros though... And the grill/headlight opennings look too large... I would love to see Chevy make concepts that look similar to these...

I like the first one!

I never cared much for hood scoops, but if they produced it, I would buy either one. That definately has my name written all over it.
Cool 69, 90EX. I like the color.
---TEX---

Damn thats nice :bananasmi

my god thoese concepts are beautiful, i just sold my 68 camaro (in crappy shape) and i plan on buying a bettwe 68 but if chevy puts these concepts to life i would buy one in a heart beat.

I heard they were going to go 1st gen on the new ones but i wasnt so sure. looks like ther're heading that way!

i think gm waited to see what the next gen mustang would be before bringing back the camaro. is the camaro going to be a two seater too?

i doubt they would make it a 2 seater, they have the vette for that

god i love the pony car battles! just when you think the camaro is gone it comes back sweet as ever. rest in peace firebird:frown: .

the camaro and trans am were never over they were just reincarnated in a new body-The pontiac gto

That is one amazing looking car!!! A car I would be willing to trade the SS in for!

don't get me started on the new gto. gm was stupid to take the design from the holden monaro and put it on the gto. now its just another name.

Why is it so hard to admit that the F-bodies are dead? The Camaro might have a chance to come back but from what i know of the Firebirds are not coming back. Itll take a serious badass to pull off a 5th Gen F-bod... and from the looks of it, and the way GM has of treating their loyal customers... Its not going to happen... Just look at the New Goat. Even John Colleti said "The new GTO is like a Cavalier on a Camaros chassis." Also Lutz "the putz" said this about the new GTO "We really would like to draw new customers, rather than traditionalists" Theres your GM loyalty :rolleyes:

Originally posted by DkShadow
Why is it so hard to admit that the F-bodies are dead? The Camaro might have a chance to come back but from what i know of the Firebirds are not coming back. Itll take a serious badass to pull off a 5th Gen F-bod... and from the looks of it, and the way GM has of treating their loyal customers... Its not going to happen... Just look at the New Goat. Even John Colleti said "The new GTO is like a Cavalier on a Camaros chassis." Also Lutz "the putz" said this about the new GTO "We really would like to draw new customers, rather than traditionalists" Theres your GM loyalty :rolleyes:

:iagree:

Originally posted by DkShadow
Why is it so hard to admit that the F-bodies are dead? The Camaro might have a chance to come back but from what i know of the Firebirds are not coming back. Itll take a serious badass to pull off a 5th Gen F-bod... and from the looks of it, and the way GM has of treating their loyal customers... Its not going to happen... Just look at the New Goat. Even John Colleti said "The new GTO is like a Cavalier on a Camaros chassis." Also Lutz "the putz" said this about the new GTO "We really would like to draw new customers, rather than traditionalists" Theres your GM loyalty :rolleyes:


this is comming from a guy who drives a ford? do you know how much of your car is made outside of america?

Originally posted by Trancebot



this is comming from a guy who drives a ford? do you know how much of your car is made outside of america?

:gives:

Originally posted by Trancebot



this is comming from a guy who drives a ford? do you know how much of your car is made outside of america?

What the fuck does that have to do with what i just posted? What the fuck does me owning a Ford have to do with anything?
Take a real close look at this pic below... :rolleyes:

Originally posted by DkShadow


What the fuck does that have to do with what i just posted? What the fuck does me owning a Ford have to do with anything?
Take a real close look at this pic below... :rolleyes:

are you daft? it has alot to do with what you said, you're talking about gm not having any loyaty to the people who buy GM. What about ford not having any loaty to to the usa in genral?


dont get so upset.

Originally posted by Trancebot


are you daft? it has alot to do with what you said, you're talking about gm not having any loyaty to the people who buy GM. What about ford not having any loaty to to the usa in genral?


dont get so upset.

:eek7: Are you really that stupid? I dont see Ford leaving thousands and thousands of loyal car enthusiasts alone in the cold. Look at their Performance Cars... You only see ONE! The Corvette, how many people can buy a Vette? Now look at Ford... theyve been giving their loyal buyers the Mustang every year, giving them the Mach 1, the Bullitt, and now the 03 Cobra... You dont see them turning their backs to the very ones that are giving them money like GM does. Remember back then when Ford was thinking of turning the Stang into a FWD? Ford listened to their customers and decided not to do it and instead called that car the Probe... Now tell me when has GM given a rats ass about their loyal fans? LOOK at the new goddamn GTO ... Look at what Lutz "the putz" said about treating loyal tradionalists... Now get back to me about "Loaty" as you so eloquently put it

Also, not get upset? When you say "This coming from a guy who owns a ford" do you think im suppose to dance around and act like its nothing? :rolleyes:

I shouldnt have let it get to me... but ehh... wtf...

Originally posted by Trancebot


What about ford not having any loaty to to the usa in genral?


WHAT THE HELL? You do know that chevy and pontiac sell in europe and asia too don't you? idiot

Originally posted by fordjay16


WHAT THE HELL? You do know that chevy and pontiac sell in europe and asia too don't you? idiot

all i have to say about you fordjay16 is wow.

Originally posted by fordjay16


WHAT THE HELL? You do know that chevy and pontiac sell in europe and asia too don't you? idiot


Really .. :rolleyes:

Off Topic... You know i really like the Export (Europe/Japan) Camaro Taillights... also the Mustang export lights look alot like the Cobras ... :tongue:

Also All cars are built using parts from different countries... :rolleyes:

all i'm saying is chevy and pontiac have parts from other countries in them too.

can you give me some pics of the new GTO? i cant find any

it said the file was too big can i email ya a pic?

I think this whole conversation is why I just bought A gt instead of a camaro.... It seems so much easier to tune a 5.0 Than it is to do a camaro.

Originally posted by Carguy393
I think this whole conversation is why I just bought A gt instead of a camaro.... It seems so much easier to tune a 5.0 Than it is to do a camaro.

that's because you HAVE to tune a 5.0 to beat a camaro.

Originally posted by Trancebot


that's because you HAVE to tune a 5.0 to beat a camaro.

:iamwithst

Those pics are awesome! When the top of the first pic was loading I was like "this looks just like the top half of that concept Mustang they've been showing for years" - then as soon as the nose became visible it was like "wow! now THATS a fucking Camaro!" Well done! And how many of you were worried they'd reincarnate the Camaro into a FWD V6 piece of shit?!?! Naaaaaa!!!

However the new Camaro turns up, it will once again be the king of the street. When you're on top for so long, there's nothing wrong with taking a holiday and letting the door mats feel good about themselves - especially if you're getting ready for another 10 year dynasty - its a well deserved holiday!

And in terms of 4-gen F-body engines, there are so many modifications that can be made: take an LT1 - drop in a cam and a stroker crank - hello 400/450/500 HP. The LS1 can get up to 400 HP by just adding simple bolt on's for Christ sake.

To go and pull the greatest street machines off the market at the height of their might - thats telling you the General has something crazy up his sleeve. Think about it.

Originally posted by DVS LT1


To go and pull the greatest street machines off the market at the height of their might - thats telling you the General has something crazy up his sleeve. Think about it.

pull it off at the height of its might? they pulled it off cuz it had sum kind of safety issue i think...i know it wasn't cuz they have sumthing up their sleeve. the stang is and will always be the greatest of the pony cars....but this new concept is just a rip off of the new stang......all they did was do a retro style camaro.....don't ever say the camaro was king of the streets, for that matter neither is the stang. and they are definetly not the greatest street machines:rolleyes:

To go and pull the greatest street machines off the market at the height of their might - thats telling you the General has something crazy up his sleeve. Think about it.

Maybe something up their a.... Besides as nice as those pics may be... Some kid made them up. Its all photoshopped by some guy who was toying around. Im a little skeptical about a 5th gen F-body... even Scott Settlemire said that theres no plans on making a 5th gen f-body... Also... Gm already decided to axe the F-body 5+ years before it actually happened... Right now, GM has nothing on their line-up that would make me want to buy one... Probably a GTP with the paddle shifter :D but thats about it, the GTO just seems too blashpemous... :headshake

Originally posted by fordjay16


pull it off at the height of its might? they pulled it off cuz it had sum kind of safety issue i think...

Actually,... Sales... No one was buying them. You had dealers across the country that didnt even have ONE customer go in and look at a Camaro/Firebird. They were practically giving some away. When you have a car that once sold 100,000+ cars a year then to suddenly less than 40,000 theres no need to waste money on making them. The F-bodies, sadly, were in a dying platform ever since the introduction to the 4th gens :headshake

The 2002 Camaro SS and Firehawk were without a doubt the greatest muscle/pony cars ever built (I wasn't comparing Viper's or rice rockets).

The LS1 V8 is the greatest engine ever put into a modern pony car.

Originally posted by DkShadow


Actually,... Sales... No one was buying them.

yur right.......so what does gm do? bring back the goat as a car that i would say fits the description of "ulitmate cavalier" better than gto. the car will be fast.....thats for sure.....but i bet the majority of people who buy it will rice it out.

One needs to look at the state/direction of the automotive industry and politics to understand why the Camaro was simply put on hiatus for a brief period.

The auto market is not what it was 10 faithfull years ago when the Fourth Generation F-Bodies debuted with seemingly neverending accolades: sophisticated & refined(for a musclecar), performance bargain of the decade(even at its introduction), 1950's small block technology for the 90's that shamed other exotics three times the price(remember those gutless NSX's?), and so on, and so on... The LT1 F-Body revived a slumping, stereotypical, olde school "Sports Car" market and image back in '93 and brought it too its peak. But the car industry and market was changing even as F-body sales continued to soar in '94 and '95. The revolution was in fact fading almost from the beginning.

1996 - ram air returns - could anyone have conjured up a better marketing ploy, I mean really? (SERIOUS kudos there - I remember being in grade 12 and drooling over ram air). And hey dad, Mark's dad just bought a really cool Explorer. 1997 explodes with the new C5 & LS1. History is made in '98 when the F-Body's inherit the most technologically advaned small block V8 ever created - GM is happy but quickly starts to sweat as sales slump and prices begin to skyrocket. What do you expect, the bloody salesmen are still using the same laimo pitch "ya its got the 'Cor-vette' engine in it" (many still refer to it as the "LT1" - what the fuck do they know). The industry is becoming more cut-throat than ever. A world wide consolidation occurs where companies get bought out or merge with others. No more build what you've been good at - now its compete with everyone else in every market! Bye the way son, what are they calling those things again, S-U-V's? Hmmmm, insurance WOULD be cheaper for you.

A minor(some say major) facelift from '98 on appears to mask the true situation and fool many into feeling all is well and rolling along like never before. Well sure, the factory is now practically rating the horespower of the SS & Firehawk just 5 HP under the Corvette!(well shit they had better for their price!) Truth is even by the turn of the millennium GM had already planned to end production of the Fourth Generation F-Bodies in order to rethink and rerelease a new era of musclecars for the twentyfirst century. They really had no choice if you look at it.

One thing we must realise is that things are planned and envisioned in the industry years before they happen. We can right now say well look at the popularity of the SUV's and other import cars out there - they're cool, refined, have seen a HUGE aftermarket spring up overnight, even Hollywood is cashing in with shit like Fast 'n the Furious. Teens these days don't want daddy to buy a Camaro anymore, they want to load all their buddies in a DENALI to roll around and toke up in. Not in a heatbag CAMARO "guy" - but even now that particular stereotype of getting pulled over in a Camaro is so dead as the cops can barely keep up with the millions of little punks in their rice rods. This image is so cool now that guys in rusted, different coloured scrapyard door, piece of shit 1991 Integra's and CRX's are cruisin around with a bottle of NOS, but-ugly chrome rims, and Christmas lights all over/under their car.

So of course GM pulled the plug on the Fourth Generation Camaro, its been dying for years. GM has desperately wanted to get the plant out of Quebec for years now because of political uncertainty there and for economic reasons. This factor ALONE could very well have been the reason why a replacement model was not prepared for 2003 - let the thousands of St. Theresse plant workers think they're losing their jobs because its simply the end of an era. Be Proud! Then back a year or two later by overwhelming demand!!!..........

Should GM have kept the Fourth Generation F-Bodies going a bit longer? Again, if you're GM, look ahead - can you imagine what the new Supra or RX8(just to name a few) are going look, feel, perform like? Who they are going to appeal to?? Trust me, GM can and already knows. Its taken those companies several years to redesign them! So why shit on GM for taking a few years to hit the drawing board. Thats the thing about the industry. GM probably knew about the 350Z years ago just like Ford knew/knows that GM is planning to debute an all new Camaro in 2004 or '05. Go ask anyone within Ford how good they feel now that the F-Bodies are gone and they'll be the first to tell you GM will be back with the Camaro in less than a year - they're just regrouping. Mustang will eventually have to follow suit(totally new revolutionary design), but in the meantime they will continue - and rightfully so - to milk the last of the pony car heritage with such models as the new Mach 1(awsome job Blue Boys), the former Bullet, and I'll bet you a million dollars a "BOSS" model in '04!

Its really for the best in the long run. I'm convinced even if GM had put a fire sale on the the greatest musclecars ever made and given all the incentives in the world most people now would not have cared to even notice. Musclecars?, they're dead "guy." (Me - I would have bought at least 2 more). Fear not. The Camaro is practically around the corner. Will it be radically different - yes. It will be built to compete with(and hopefully rout once again) the new generation of performance cars in every way - speed, image, sophistication - the trick will be to have maintained a bit of heritage. So take a year or two off to get it right. After all, this will be the Camaro for the next generation. And NO, it will not be a cheesy FWD, 3.0L turbo-intercooled little car like many of you speculate. Images will pop up and rumours will persist, but GM will unleash the new Camaro when they're good and ready. And it WILL be a Camaro, true to the name.

(this part just added...) yes it was no longer cost effective to produce the F-bodies after the LT1 was disco'd (it powered a dozen different GM cars and trucks). The new LS1 was designed from the ground up for the vette.

Originally posted by DVS LT1
The 2002 Camaro SS and Firehawk were without a doubt the greatest muscle/pony cars ever built

the only thing the camaro ss and firehawk had going for them was speed..........if that makes a great muscle/pony car than the best ever would be the 2000 cobra r and boss 429 would be the best.

:iagree:

:bigthumb:

Originally posted by fordjay16


the only thing the camaro ss and firehawk had going for them was speed..........if that makes a great muscle/pony car than the best ever would be the 2000 cobra r and boss 429 would be the best.
LMFAO. The cobra r?? :loser: Stock SS's and Hawks kill that 55K pile.

Originally posted by Extinct SS

LMFAO. The cobra r?? :loser: Stock SS's and Hawks kill that 55K pile.

a 2000 cobra r has 385hp whereas the hawk has 375 and the ss doesn't even have that much. not to mention the cobra r has loads more torque and is lighter than the hawk or ss. :flipa:

Originally posted by fordjay16


a 2000 cobra r has 385hp whereas the hawk has 375 and the ss doesn't even have that much. not to mention the cobra r has loads more torque and is lighter than the hawk or ss. :flipa:
LOL What was the best the R tesed in the 1/4 13.3, 13.2 maybe. My 99 SS 304 rwhp ran 13.07@ 107 And it IS heavier.

Wtf? Theres no 375hp Firehawk... Theres the Blackbird that has 385hp+ but that car isnt cheap

Originally posted by Extinct SS

LOL What was the best the R tesed in the 1/4 13.3, 13.2 maybe. My 99 SS 304 rwhp ran 13.07@ 107 And it IS heavier.

the R is rwd too (like every mustang but you knew that right) and it has way more torque than yur ss. so explain to me how your ss is faster.

Hawks are rated at 335hp

Originally posted by Extinct SS
Hawks are rated at 335hp

Actually in 02... after august... the hawks were rated at 345hp along with the SS... That is ofcourse if you ordered your hawk with the new air lid/filter and your SS with Lid/Filter and Exhaust.....

why don't you answer my question? i want to know how yur ss can outrun a much lighter car, which has 82 more hp, and far more torque and for that matter far more downforce. well?

Originally posted by fordjay16


the R is rwd too (like every mustang but you knew that right) and it has way more torque than yur ss. so explain to me how your ss is faster.
Well obviously the R is losing alot more hp and torque between the flywheel and the ground to only be running 13.3's. My SS is rated at 320hp yet it dynoed at 304hp to the ground.

Originally posted by Extinct SS

Well obviously the R is losing alot more hp and torque between the flywheel and the ground to only be running 13.3's. My SS is rated at 320hp yet it dynoed at 304hp to the ground.

have you ever seen a 2000 R? no really, they have lots of downforce.

where'd you here 13.3's? because i have heard 12.75 which sounds much more reasonable considering the R can out accelerate a vette Z06.

Originally posted by fordjay16

why don't you answer my question? i want to know how yur ss can outrun a much lighter car, which has 82 more hp, and far more torque and for that matter far more downforce. well?

Where did you get the 82 more hp? LS1s have around 345-360hp subtract that to 385 and you only got 35 :dunno: Besides the R was made for the track, not the strip.

Originally posted by fordjay16
where'd you here 13.3's? because i have heard 12.75 which sounds much more reasonable considering the R can out accelerate a vette Z06.

:confused:
Hows that? Theres been some bonestock Z06Vettes hit 11s. The majority SHOULD be hitting low 12s :confused:

i mean 65 more hp............i subtracted 302 instead of 320 which is what his ss is rated at.