VR4 vs Suprise Stang!

Well, I got in my first race with the VR4 today. :D

I was on my way back from visiting some family and a fox body Stang catches up to me on the 4 lane highways. Guy is about 25ish years old and like all fox bodies has an aftermarket exhaust lol. He actually rolls down his window and asks me if I want to do a run. I reply, "sure, whenever your ready." He slows to 50mph so I shift into 3rd ready for him. He takes off and I follow suit quickly putting quite a few car lengths on him by 100...I shut down. He catches me agian and tells me, "good run." I give a friendly thumbs up and then he says, "give me one more chance?" I said, "sure, why?" He comes straight out with it and says let me get the bottle ready. :D I laughed a little for some reason, maybe because that was the last thing I expected to hear and then said ok. He starts messing around with whatever he was doing in his car and then says he's ready. We start at about 55mph this time. I tell him just to take the first jump agian. He takes off agian and I soon follow. This time, as I go through 3rd gear I can't gain an inch! However, nor could he. As it was literally fender to fender I realized I had to shift into 4th which made me think I would start losing some ground. However, shortly after hitting fourth I started very slowly making ground on him shutting it down at around 125 with approx 1/2 car on him. He pulls up next to me and complimented the car and I did to his. He still had a great big grin on his face even after losing agian as we cruised next to eachother. He ended up slowing down a bit and cruised behind me for another 15 or so miles and then parted ways with a thumbs up.

As of right now, it still all stock except for intake.

His car goes faster when he is drunk?

Don't we all?!

wait... no.


Good run, only thing I can suspect is that he wasn't running a super big shot... and his gearing may not be suited for highway runs. From a dig he might of been a better challenger. Plus, his car isn't as aerodynamic as yours is.

Still... ya run what ya brung, and hope ya brung enough!

Nice run man! Feels good to have boost doesn't it?:grinyes:

Now just wait until your boost controller comes. Me and a buddy were messing with his BC on his VR-4 last week...14psi = fun times!

Lol yeah it is good to have the twins around. I have my BC, it is just waiting install right now. Doh! Need to update the sig.

Good kill, I'm pretty sure the rustang didn't see it coming...

Lol yeah it is good to have the twins around. I have my BC, it is just waiting install right now. Doh! Need to update the sig.

BC fix a lot of problems...

My friend had a Stealth TT RT and was able to take a guy in a STI from a 65 MPH roll and never left 5th gear, or his top gear, all because of the power gains from the BC.

Yeah, BC's are by far the best bang for the buck for bpu's on 3/S's. With intake and a BC a TT should be right around 350hp and roughly 340ish lb/ft. And on top of that, STi's don't do terribley well at high speed runs due mostly to their gearing. My 6 speed is geared pretty tall with 2nd gear capable of going to 70mph.

Lol, Cassie, I do feel bad calling it a Rustang though because like I said, the guy was very cool about all of it.

still... most fox bodies I see are awful creatures.. like an old taurus with a stigmatism. there are a few awesome ones around, but they have yet to race me.

Boost controllers are sex in a box for the 3/S. The Verfer is crazy spiking at 15-16psi, rips them all loose around a corner.

And in that run what ya brung thing... If I lose, and I "brung" a .38, can I use that instead of a ricer flyby?

Lol, Cassie, I do feel bad calling it a Rustang though because like I said, the guy was very cool about all of it.

Most of the cool five oh owners I know personally call them Rustangs or FiveSlows. I've always found the best way to stay humble and not come across as your stereotypical Mustang/BMW/Porsche/Vette/whatever owner is to make fun of your car. Hell, I call my car a riced out Mazda3, lol.

I'm starting to notice more and more that Mustang driver's are being "cooler". All the local CJTC's are moving to 350Zs and Evos. The STI guys are still pretty cool.

Yeah it's nice to have some fun at your car's expense sometimes. I guess the VR4 is just a poor man's Ferrari? :lol: Funny thing is, you can come up with something for anyone's car. MZR=Supercharged Cavalier w/ wing, TorchedStealth= supercharged ion with body kit, BeZerk= wanna-be front end of lambo, CassiesMan= riced out Mazda3, -TheStig-= same old heavy pig with hood vents, different Pontiac, etc,etc lol. Kidding to all though. :D

Yeah it's nice to have some fun at your car's expense sometimes. I guess the VR4 is just a poor man's Ferrari? :lol: Funny thing is, you can come up with something for anyone's car. MZR=Supercharged Cavalier w/ wing, TorchedStealth= supercharged ion with body kit, BeZerk= wanna-be front end of lambo, CassiesMan= riced out Mazda3, -TheStig-= same old heavy pig with hood vents, different Pontiac, etc,etc lol. Kidding to all though. :D


NOEZZZZ!!! You forgot the wing that makes me JDM y0! :lol:

Her name is Sasha.

I just cringe at the word cavalier... But more or less sums it up.

Blue, Blown, and the Bitch (aka me)

You have to be able to make fun of your own car. If you cant, you turn in to a cocky bastard and get bitter over everything. Its proven. Plus, people think your car is slower than it really is

My VR4 runs upper 16's.

um u should b able to hit the low 14's in the 1/4 mile. i've run 13.6 with the stealth tt. thats got all of 320hp ad 315tq. or are u just not used to the car yet?

my porsche, no name for it. all it is, i couldn't afford a 911 entry level sportscar no better than a 240sx other than the hood emblem. seriously go get a 89 944 turbo and an 89 240sx hatchback...put em next to each other and laugh. but she's my bitch, does wat i want it to.

only thing, porsche design is older. going back to 1972

and how much did jason charge for the boost controller?

^It was a joke as we were making fun of our cars. Stock it should be around a 13.5. Haven't taken mine to the track though.

my porsche, no name for it. all it is, i couldn't afford a 911 entry level sportscar no better than a 240sx other than the hood emblem. seriously go get a 89 944 turbo and an 89 240sx hatchback...put em next to each other and laugh. but she's my bitch, does wat i want it to.

Ummmm...

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944 Turbo>240SX.

Always.

End discussion.

unless its pink.

i was talking bout the body. performance...yea it'd take some serious money to get the 240 to keep up.

It reminds me of an FC more than an s13.

in all honosty, the fc. 300, 240, 944, kinda all share the same basic design.

but we've gotten only a tad off topic

in all honosty, the fc. 300, 240, 944, kinda all share the same basic design.


Thats because they are all made by the same company. Duh. you havent heard of the Porche 240SX?

And off-topic is the point of AF.

But, to be on topic for the hell of it... What color was the stang? :D

^^Lol it was a darker blue. Appearance-wise it didn't look anything special. However, he did have the monster tach in there. :lol:

As far as killing my thread, don't worry about it. There are few things that still keep AF alive and killing threads with OT talk is one of them.

...and killing threads with OT talk is one of them.

And that's when I decided, lets buy this horse a prostitute!

^^ Thats makes me a little sick. Sl how much are you paying for your insurance on the Mitsubitchy?

The Nazis have a death star.

Oh shit.

Lol, enough. $2k+ a year. But I had a 26mph over speeding ticket amongst other minor tickets. :(

dang... $800 for my Cobalt :) and im not even 18. Clean record makes a huge difference. If you have ONE ticket here, the insurance companies will do anything they can to not insure you on a performance car.

Torched will have to help me on this one, but one of our friends up here got an abosolutely ridiculous quote for a car he wanted to buy, because of a 90 in a 55 ticket he had. something like 4k a year for a firebird or something like that.

And the Nazi thing is quite serious.

I dont even think that 7013k pays that much... and he has ze speeding ticketz.

$255 a month thanks to a 101 in a 60, a 95 in a 60, a 62 in a forty, and a 35 in a non school zone 20.

22$ for the dakota a month i have to get a quote for a VR-4, 300zx, and an Impreza just to see where they all stand.

When I first got my srt it was going to be about 5k a year. Needless to say I went with another company.

i pay 99 a month on the porsche. but i'm what the cops call, a repeat offender in the speeding department. 106 in a 65 eh, i was doing 120 a few seconds earlier

Passed a cop at 135 in a 55, so that would have been an insta-gib for my license... But he didnt even try to turn around and catch me... I got some enjoyment out of that.

cops have seen me speeding many times, but never bothered to pull me over. only two times I have been pulled over was for no license plates (I had a window sticker) and reports of speeding. Neither one resulted in anything, but the second one pissed me off.

i know in a few states that if u were to drive in excess of 100mph police dont chase due to their own safety, evidentally me and u r better drivers then the men in blue

apparently. I wouldnt feel safe in a crown vic at anything over 100. even the Impalas and Chargers they have are just tanks, and would flip over at the slightest corners.

apparently. I wouldnt feel safe in a crown vic at anything over 100. even the Impalas and Chargers they have are just tanks, and would flip over at the slightest corners.

And then you die :icon16:

exactly. in flaming, rolling, glory. You would think that the people who are supposed to be chasing down these fast cars drive family sedans. Just buy a bunch of WRXs or something that is actually partially respectable :P

Just buy a bunch of WRXs or something that is actually partially respectable :P

Screw WRXs. If I was in charge of a Police Department, and I had some reason that I was forced to have a chase or traffic department, I'd just get a few M5s.

m3's. cheaper, good handling, quick as hell, and look damn nice. and when the officer has to arrest the person, they criminal is in luxery on the way downtown.

I was thinking something a bit cheaper... and I would rather like to see how long the lego tranny could keep up with me through the twisties :)

But I would want to be sheriff if he got to drive an M5/M3. Or a Cossie, that would just be funny.

Or even better, Smart cars with Ducati engines in em.

or just ducatis or some of these
http://www.robosaurus.com/

Screw WRXs. If I was in charge of a Police Department, and I had some reason that I was forced to have a chase or traffic department, I'd just get a few M5s.

An m5 is probably more than an officer makes in a year.

m3's. cheaper, good handling, quick as hell, and look damn nice. and when the officer has to arrest the person, they criminal is in luxery on the way downtown.

M3's would be stilll be super expensive. And why would we want criminals to be riding in something as nice as an m3? They would have to strip the carpet, take out the nice leather seats, and everything like that.

By having American cars Cops are helping support the American companies that are really hurting. Seriously, think of all the crown vics, impalas and chargers the police help those companies sell.

In reality chargers are not slouches. Stock they can probably outrun 90 percent of the cars on the road. With wrx's which are slow as hell, especially from a roll, they would need to put on mods just for them to keep up.

Not to mention those tweaked out lt1 camaros I see on the highway.

What we really should be focusing on is how american cars should be made faster and better for the cops out there. I would love to see some cop editions of the G8.

^^I remember there used to be LS1 Camaro state troopers around here (we never did have any that drove the LT1's) but those are all gone. I should know, I was with my pops when he got pulled over by one. :lol: They went back to Crown Vics and Impalas agian. I guess having a 2 door sport car that required premium fuel and guzzled gas in cities wasn't their best idea. The part that really killed me was they used a 2 door car....tight squeeze for the criminal in back I guess.

Thats good. Torture whoever has to get put in the back.

Do ls1's need premuim fuel? That sucks, I never knew that.

Im down for robosaurus

I say get them some Verfers if you plan on torturing the occupant in the back seat.

But I was just thinking of that some G8 cop cars would be awesome, not to mention badass looking with a big grill guard on em. Maybe some new Maros or Challengers too just for the Sheriffs :)

Heavily modified GVR4s..... would just be funny.

This thread has officially been raped and killed.

On a lighter note, both the LS1 and LT1 require premium fuel. As does my VR4 which as MZR mentions as a cop car would be a death sentence. Not joking, you would have to cut off both legs in order to get them in the back seat.

You mentioned VR4 in the topic, and VR4s were just brought up. So, in theory, this is still on topic :icon16:

Teh Balt takes premium too. Actually, 93 or higher is recommended with a 2.9. But ND just has 91 :(

But just imagine them stuffing a 6' 5'', 250lb gangsta into the back of the verfer. And then sliding the seat all the way back. And making a few stops along the way, making him wait in the car.

Sucker would be dead before you got to the station

An m5 is probably more than an officer makes in a year.

Just get rid of welfare. And look what happens...not only are people forced to get jobs (help the economy), it also frees up government funds for buying police departments M5s.

By having American cars Cops are helping support the American companies that are really hurting. Seriously, think of all the crown vics, impalas and chargers the police help those companies sell.

If the American companies made more cars that real people wanted, then we wouldn't need to rely on fleet sales (which actually hurt the company more than help it) to keep them proped up.

In reality chargers are not slouches. Stock they can probably outrun 90 percent of the cars on the road. With wrx's which are slow as hell, especially from a roll, they would need to put on mods just for them to keep up.

Ummm.... Maybe an SRT8 could outrun, say 60% of stock cars on the road. All the cop chargers, especially around here, are V6s. A stock WRX will walk one from a roll or dig no problem. And remember, squad cars, contrary to the rumor mill, are not heavily modified at all. In many cases, they have nothing more than just some better head work, and an exhaust, which is all needed just to motivate an already heavy ass car that is now laden with safty equipment and computers and all that shit.


What we really should be focusing on is how american cars should be made better for the average driver

Fixed it for you.

The few Charger cop cars around here are the R/t's...no V6's. However, I would wager the SRT-8 Charger could outrun more than 60% of cars on the road lol. And screw giving cops M5's. As far as I am concerned they can all keep driving what they have now...in fact, maybe a downgrade is in order.

FOCUS'S!

Ummm.... Maybe an SRT8 could outrun, say 60% of stock cars on the road. All the cop chargers, especially around here, are V6s. A stock WRX will walk one from a roll or dig no problem. And remember, squad cars, contrary to the rumor mill, are not heavily modified at all. In many cases, they have nothing more than just some better head work, and an exhaust, which is all needed just to motivate an already heavy ass car that is now laden with safty equipment and computers and all that shit.


60 Percent of the cars on the road? The srt-8 charger runs like 13.2's. Around here they use v8's which are not bad. And the cars not being modded is my point. A stock wrx isnt going to be super helpful at higher highway speeds.

I was suggesting they be modded. If they really dont care about how reliable they are, buy a ton of beat to shit RX7s and DSMs and make em fast. Then, after one chase when the car blows up, you go back to the patrol cars (Impalas, crown vics, chargers)

Just have a fleet of fast and cheap cars for the chases when you need em. Or, buy the cops GXRs....

FOCUS'S

Foci.

60 Percent of the cars on the road? The srt-8 charger runs like 13.2's. Around here they use v8's which are not bad. And the cars not being modded is my point. A stock wrx isnt going to be super helpful at higher highway speeds.

Exactly. A 13.2 sedan hasn't been fast since an E39 M5 ran one back in 2001. You would think that almost eight years later, they would pump out something faster. The 40% mark is a make up based on the availability of low 13 and high 12 second stock cars, with decent trap speeds, and the inclusion of modified cars.

And most of the V8 Chargers that the police stations are going to use are going to be R/Ts. Which is a low 14 second at Police wieght on a good day.

Exactly. A 13.2 sedan hasn't been fast since an E39 M5 ran one back in 2001. You would think that almost eight years later, they would pump out something faster. The 40% mark is a make up based on the availability of low 13 and high 12 second stock cars, with decent trap speeds, and the inclusion of modified cars.

And most of the V8 Chargers that the police stations are going to use are going to be R/Ts. Which is a low 14 second at Police wieght on a good day.

None the less, 13.2 is still a fast sedan and would beat well over 60% of the cars on the road. And one more thing...the M5 was a bit more spendy...I wouldn't expect something that cost far less to run a faster time. ;)

Exactly. A 13.2 sedan hasn't been fast since an E39 M5 ran one back in 2001. You would think that almost eight years later, they would pump out something faster. The 40% mark is a make up based on the availability of low 13 and high 12 second stock cars, with decent trap speeds, and the inclusion of modified cars.

And most of the V8 Chargers that the police stations are going to use are going to be R/Ts. Which is a low 14 second at Police wieght on a good day.

In your previous post you stated the 40 percent was stock cars only.

Even including modded cars I highly doubt that 40 percent of the cars on the road can run an et quicker than 13.2.

In your previous post you stated the 40 percent was stock cars only.

I did, didn't I. In that case, I retract the previous statement in that post. That 40% includes both stock and modified cars. Of course, I'm only going off what I experience in my area. And around here, I can pull up to any given light and count the number of cars that wont run at least a low 13 on one hand. I honestly think 60%-65% of the cars on the road is a fair number. Hell, one of the guys in my Mazda club with a Speed3 with a Mexican turboback, intake, and MBC ran a 13.1xx. The ease of making pretty much any car out there now run a low 13, high 12 is so widely available, that really, 12s aren't even all that impressive anymore.

Even including modded cars I highly doubt that 40 percent of the cars on the road can run an et quicker than 13.2.

The lowest I'd go, honestly, is 30%. I think saying that a 13.2 will out run 90% of the cars on the road, though, is giving a 13 second quarter far to much credit. 13s are fairly quick. 12s are pretty quick. Your not fast till the mid/low 11s. Hell, given the right driver, a Z06 will run a 10 second quarter right off the show room floor on stock tires.

And one more thing...the M5 was a bit more spendy...I wouldn't expect something that cost far less to run a faster time.

Again, given the right driver, an E39 M5 will run a 12.8-12.9. I wouldn't expect a Dodge Charger SRT-8 with a 6.1L Hemi V8 Pushing out 425hp and 428lbft of torque to run a slower time than a 5.0L V8 with 395hp and 369lbft. Of course, it is a Chrysler product, so I've learned not to expect much of anything beyond the Viper.

i'm not really ipmressed with the new z06 zr1, it's runs an 11.3, but a stock z06 runs an 11.7. i want a lil better for 80-100g. then there's ferrari lambo and porsche, the only real defense they have, they're not ment for the 1/4, but all run around 11.8.

my guess is that if u stripped out a toyota supra mk4 turbo, u can get high 12's and still have some level of comfort for daily driving

A zr1 will be able to run better times than that. Like cassie said a couple have pulled off 10's with z06's.

i'm not really ipmressed with the new z06 zr1, it's runs an 11.3, but a stock z06 runs an 11.7.

Well when you make 604lb-ft of torque at 3500rpm, lets see you get off the line faster than that on factory run flats. ;)

Corvettes were never designed for drag racing, they've been able to do it pretty decently in the past. Just keep in mind that there's more to the picture than just driving 1320ft at a time. :smile:

i'm not really ipmressed with the new z06 zr1, it's runs an 11.3...

The ZR1 is heavily limited as far as traction goes. Throw some slicks on the back, and watch that time drop considerably. Also, in 11 second range of the quarter mile, 4 tenths of a second is a big difference.

Also, that 11 second quarter mile? Its trapping at around 130mph. A quick search found a stock C6 Zed that ran an 11.4, and trapped at 120mph. That is a pretty big difference.