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Guess what the next one is........The ENZO !!


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primera man
02-10-2003, 11:18 PM
Yep, thats right, couldn't wait any longer :rolleyes:
Got it started today and i wont say to much about it as most of us will probably be building this kit so it will get plenty of views etc.

Yes....it will be painted RED, what other colour suits a Ferrari !!!
Here's todays effort :cool:

Got all the parts sorted into their little boxes ready to be spray painted in...Red...Black...Silver...and Misc bits to be done by brush.

Im still very stunned by the quality of this kit

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/204285DSCF0687.JPG

tonioseven
02-10-2003, 11:22 PM
I finally found a kit that scares me!:eek: I know you shall do this kit justice!;)

Toksin
02-10-2003, 11:34 PM
Good choice of colour, Warren.

Red goes faster :D

Lownslow
02-10-2003, 11:37 PM
Red goes faster

NoNo

Black is faster:flipa:

bends
02-10-2003, 11:38 PM
Have fun pman, I know it's going to look good! (btw which red do you plan on using?)

-Chuck

F-40
02-10-2003, 11:54 PM
Should be another great from PMan, I cant wait to see the finished product.

Originally posted by bends
(btw which red do you plan on using?)

-Chuck

Yeah what red will you be using, Im making an F40 but I dont know which red I should paint it in.

5ynergyx
02-11-2003, 12:10 AM
Great sort out! :)

Ghost_9418
02-11-2003, 12:16 AM
Cant wait for this one:D

primera man
02-11-2003, 12:28 AM
The kit will be painted in Tamiya TS-8 Italian Red :cool: :cool:

I still cant beleive the amount of parts after seeing that pic now.....i hope i remember how it all goes together :p

Jonno
02-11-2003, 12:31 AM
Sounds like a good build. :D

zangief
02-11-2003, 02:02 AM
good luck and by seing your gallery i know it will deffinatly have a good turn out :)

by the way sry to ask this newb question but if i dont ill never learn hehe;)

what are u using to hold the small parts(in the boxes) with in the pictures
gator clamps on a stick or somthing???

sry again! :silly2:

hrmodeler
02-11-2003, 02:48 AM
That is the car which I will not build! :)
Kit is nice but I don't like car.

BTW, I saw Enzo in yellow color and looked me better tha red one.

exhaust smoke
02-11-2003, 03:23 AM
How long d'ya reckon it's gonna take you for this one? A week or two?

Focus2000
02-11-2003, 03:35 AM
Another Ferrari Enzo? That's so last week... :p ;)

This should be good. I'm looking forward to another one of your excellent build reports as I'm keen to have a go at this kit myself. Go PMan!

primera man
02-11-2003, 04:13 AM
Originally posted by zangief


what are u using to hold the small parts(in the boxes) with in the pictures
gator clamps on a stick or somthing???


They are long tooth picks that are just taped to a piece ot the "tree" so i can hold on to them when i spray.
I cut as much off as i can before painting. Try and leave each piece holding on by just one strong bit from the sprue

supratuner
02-11-2003, 05:00 AM
another soon to be masterpiece by Pman, do you ever work on more than one kit at a time?

flyonthewall
02-11-2003, 06:15 AM
Best to get one done now before the mass of the board do it i say! Looking forward very much to see your version!

Forhod
02-11-2003, 06:36 AM
Wow, you are seduced by the Enzo? ;)
Love to see this done by you :)

Veyron
02-11-2003, 07:03 AM
Yes....it will be painted RED, what other colour suits a Ferrari !!!

Funny how all you guy's think Ferrari's have to be red, I like red too. Try this tidbit of news! When Enzo himself had the factory to build a car for himself, it was LIGHT METALLIC GREEN!!:eek:

tc3house
02-11-2003, 07:04 AM
good luck P-Man!!!!

:D :D :D

ZoomZoomMX-5
02-11-2003, 07:07 AM
Another. :cry: Red. :cry: Enzo. :cry: :rolleyes:

It will be perfectly executed by the master himself.

But it will be red. :cry: Just like every one I've seen yet. :cry: :rolleyes:

j/k ;) , should be cool to watch this one come together.

Somebody pleeeeeeaaaaaaase build a yellow or black one soon?:rolleyes: :D

ZoomZoomMX-5
02-11-2003, 07:14 AM
Originally posted by Veyron


Funny how all you guy's think Ferrari's have to be red, I like red too. Try this tidbit of news! When Enzo himself had the factory to build a car for himself, it was LIGHT METALLIC GREEN!!:eek:
Well quit talking about it and build it already! I want to see it! :rolleyes: :flipa: :D :finger: :devil:

It can be finished for Birmingham. Now go. Finish it. I'm seeing too much red lately...

Already had a brainstorm this weekend @ "Wayne's World" about building one in Gulf markings or in modern McLaren racing colors... :eek: :eek: :devil:

Veyron
02-11-2003, 07:21 AM
It can be finished for Birmingham. Now go. Finish it. I'm seeing too much red lately...

No it can't! Finishing this damn 355 Spider is eating all my time!:mad:

Already had a brainstorm this weekend @ "Wayne's World" about building one in Gulf markings or in modern McLaren racing colors...

Those would be cool! I've been getting all kinds of ideas for a race version too!:devil:

Guido
02-11-2003, 09:08 AM
Originally posted by hrmodeler
That is the car which I will not build! :)
Kit is nice but I don't like car.

BTW, I saw Enzo in yellow color and looked me better tha red one.

That is exactly what I was going to write...

Nevertheless, enjoy your time on it Warren!

Guido

SuPeRcAr_MaN
02-11-2003, 01:11 PM
Originally posted by ZoomZoomMX-5
Another. :cry: Red. :cry: Enzo. :cry: :rolleyes:

It will be perfectly executed by the master himself.

But it will be red. :cry: Just like every one I've seen yet. :cry: :rolleyes:

j/k ;) , should be cool to watch this one come together.

Somebody pleeeeeeaaaaaaase build a yellow or black one soon?:rolleyes: :D

That's how I feel, without the J/K. When I read the title of this thread, I was hoping to see it in black or yellow, but it was red. :( No doubt it will look amazing, but I'm just sick of red Ferraris.

Midnight Racer
02-11-2003, 01:55 PM
Wow the Enzo has a ton of parts.Can't wait to see it done(ina couple of days:p )

Jay!
02-11-2003, 02:26 PM
Warren, is this your first Ferrari kit? :eek: I can't remember another...

daggerlee
02-11-2003, 02:40 PM
Don't despair, hiro's working on a yellow Enzo..

freakray
02-11-2003, 02:45 PM
I was planning on a black Enzo




:rolleyes:

RyanGiorgio
02-11-2003, 05:57 PM
Hurry up and finish! I can't wait to see it done!

Mean_B16
02-11-2003, 06:03 PM
I can't wait to see this one put together

primera man
02-11-2003, 06:59 PM
Just to answer a few questions....
Supratuner...its my goldern rule !!. I'll only build one at a time because i can put all my effort into getting it correct etc. IMO when you build 3-4 at a time its easy to get pissed off and move on to another kit if something goes wrong.

Jay...it is my first Ferrari kit due to the price of them here in NZ...WAY TO EXPENSIVE :(

Ghost_9418
02-11-2003, 07:02 PM
Why are all the Ferraris so expensive. $40 bucks for a Modena is crazy.

JDM Evo7
02-11-2003, 08:25 PM
Originally posted by Ghost_9418
Why are all the Ferraris so expensive. $40 bucks for a Modena is crazy.

Licensing for one. Second, Tamiya tends to put a lot more detail and work into their Ferrari kits.

ZoomZoomMX-5
02-11-2003, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by Ghost_9418
Why are all the Ferraris so expensive. $40 bucks for a Modena is crazy.

Licensing is the big $$ for a Ferrari model, and Tamiya kits are already expensive.

Yeah, if your only source is a local shop $40 for a Modena is steep. Retail of a Modena is $41.00. I guess the Enzo is pushing $45.00.

My first Tamiya Modena was about $29 delivered from HLJ. They yen went down a bit, so my first Modena Spider was about $27 delivered. Then I found a Modena for 1/2 off of $38.99 at a local shop, and a few months ago a Spider for $21 at a local shop going OOB. My Enzo was $27 from a local "insider" deal that most can't get.

So there are ways of saving big $$ on Tamiya kits if you know where to look and are lucky and hit a sale.

sirpidol
02-11-2003, 09:50 PM
Here in the Philippines, the Enzo sells for around $22... I just got mine last week :) :)

primera man
02-12-2003, 01:58 AM
They have yet to reach the shores of New Zealand yet, but i've been told they will be close to $80-90NZD which is around $50-55USD.

A NYWAY...BACK ON TOPIC :D
Kit is going really well. Today was a nice warm sunny day and got so much done i even amazed myself :bloated: :D
Spent a good 8 hours on the kit today and got a fair builk of the painting done by can and brush.
Lots of detail to go now.
Today the parts that took up the most time was the front and rear springs. Probably spent around 2 hours in total getting these painted. They just need a tiny bit of finishing and they are all done.

hrmodeler
02-12-2003, 02:12 AM
8 hours? No surprise than how fast you build it. :)
I'm happy if I get 1 hour on day to work on my models.

Looking fine so far. But that isn't anything unusual.:)

Decs0105
02-12-2003, 05:58 AM
hi !!!

WOW the springs looks very good !!! Have you only painted them or are that "real" Springs ?????

cYa

I get my Enzo in one week:D

Guido
02-12-2003, 07:07 AM
8 hours a day? 1 hour a day? I need to start looking for another job. I was only able to model in the first week of this year. Ever since my projects have been collecting dust :(

Anyway, Nice to see that you were able to do so much on it Warren!
Looks promising.

Guido

freakray
02-12-2003, 08:08 AM
My Enzo was $27 from a local "insider" deal that most can't get.

Rats!! I thought I got a good 'insider' deal getting mine for $33......

M4tt83
02-12-2003, 08:18 AM
Originally posted by primera man
Just to answer a few questions....
[b]Jay...it is my first Ferrari kit due to the price of them here in NZ...WAY TO EXPENSIVE :(

I'm definitely looking forward to this one, but you really should try and build an F50 too - awesome, awesome car, and a not inconsiderable kit from Tamiya too.

Oh yeah, if you do get an F50, definitely get the Tamiya one - the others just don't do it justice.

primera man
02-12-2003, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by M4tt83


I'm definitely looking forward to this one, but you really should try and build an F50 too - awesome, awesome car, and a not inconsiderable kit from Tamiya too.

Oh yeah, if you do get an F50, definitely get the Tamiya one - the others just don't do it justice.

I just got the yellow version a few months back. It is a great kit but another one that is in the pile of ones to do :bloated:

Vric
02-12-2003, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by primera man


but another one that is in the pile of ones to do :bloated:

I can help you if you want :D

ZoomZoomMX-5
02-12-2003, 03:14 PM
Okay P-Man, it's been almost 48 hours since your first post on the Enzo. Where is it? It's not done yet? C'mon, hurry up! You're taking forever!:rolleyes: ;) :devil: :apoke:

daggerlee
02-12-2003, 04:05 PM
I have a really good painting method for springs that's quick and easy. How did you do yours? Maybe I"ll make a How-to topic...

Originally posted by primera man
They have yet to reach the shores of New Zealand yet, but i've been told they will be close to $80-90NZD which is around $50-55USD.

A NYWAY...BACK ON TOPIC :D
Kit is going really well. Today was a nice warm sunny day and got so much done i even amazed myself :bloated: :D
Spent a good 8 hours on the kit today and got a fair builk of the painting done by can and brush.
Lots of detail to go now.
Today the parts that took up the most time was the front and rear springs. Probably spent around 2 hours in total getting these painted. They just need a tiny bit of finishing and they are all done.

Purpura Delujo
02-13-2003, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by primera man
Yes....it will be painted RED, what other colour suits a Ferrari !!!


Black :finger: silly Kiwis don't know nothing! :D . If I ever did do one of these I'd paint it black, I bet you the next one built will be red and then they will be boring because thats all we will see! I'm thinking of getting a Ferrari F50 model, does Tamiya make the convertible version of it? I'm willing to shell out the extra money for one this time as I like them alot. Hah, red, what other color suits a Ferrari...hahaha, bad move Pman J/K

Italian red is nice though, but black is better! Ok i'll stop, can anyone post up a color chart for the F50? or PM me it?

M4tt83
02-13-2003, 01:15 AM
Irrespective of what pictures you see of the models or on the boxes, both of the Tamiya F50s (red #24160 or yellow #24207 version) can be made into either the barchetta or the coupe because both rear deck sections are included. I only own the red one, but I think the only difference between the red and yellow kits is exactly that - the body parts are either moulded in red or yellow plastic. If you are going to paint the car black or primer it though, it doesn't matter what colour the plastic is.

As for the colour chart, well I don't have a scanner connected to this computer so I hope a text one will suffice. This is for the red one.

TS-8 Italian Red
X-1 Black
X-6 Orange
X-7 Red
X-10 Gun Metal
X-11 Chrome Silver
X-12 Gold Leaf
X-16 Purple
X-18 Semi Gloss Black
X-26 Clear Orange
X-27 Clear Red
XF-1 Flat Black
XF-7 Flat Red
XF-16 Flat Aluminium
XF-20 Medium Grey
XF-53 Neutral Grey
XF-56 Metallic Grey
XF-63 German Grey

endlesskev86
02-13-2003, 01:46 AM
stunning:)

primera man
02-13-2003, 06:47 AM
Originally posted by daggerlee
I have a really good painting method for springs that's quick and easy. How did you do yours? Maybe I"ll make a How-to topic...



Sometimes i cut them up and put tiny springs in if the detail is poor.....but this one was really good to paint so it was done with a small brush.
I'd like to see your write up...we could add it to the FAQ

magicmanjk808
02-13-2003, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by primera man
...I'd like to see your write up...we could add it to the FAQ

ditto :D

primera man
02-14-2003, 06:02 PM
Small update and some info :)

Been drilling all the disc brakes out to give them a better look.
Here's a photo to show the big differance it makes if you want to spent some extra time on them. Each one has around 80-90 holes and takes around 30 minutes to do one disc.
The bottom pic shows the small pin vise that is used for those who dont know what you use.
Just get a small drill the size of the hole you wish to drill.....then away you go :D

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/173236DSCF0724.JPG

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/948904DSCF0719.JPG

SuPeRcAr_MaN
02-14-2003, 06:05 PM
I wouldn't have the patience to sit for a half hour and drill little holes into a brake disc... But they look great. I impatiently wait for more updates.

daggerlee
02-14-2003, 06:34 PM
I agree, I do the same for bikes. I think a nice blackwash would do on a 1/24 model, but yours look stunning. I don't think I would have the patience to drill through such thick plastic, though. :o

M4tt83
02-14-2003, 06:52 PM
Hmmmm I'm not quite sure if I like the look of that or not. The pattern looks a little too irregular for my tastes, even if it is realistic.

Ghost_9418
02-14-2003, 07:43 PM
I got a question, why do they drill the holes into brakes on 1:1 cars?
Looking very nice:)

TheSyndicate
02-14-2003, 07:47 PM
cross-drilled discs dissipate heat better, improving braking performance. the same goes for slotted discs.

JDM Evo7
02-14-2003, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by TheSyndicate
cross-drilled discs dissipate heat better, improving braking performance. the same goes for slotted discs.

That's not the real reason. That's why discs are ventilated not cross drilled. Cross drilling used to be done to relieve gas build up between the pad and rotor, which prevents glazing, overheating the pads(not the rotors). They also scoure the surface of the pad so if it does glaze it will reveal a fresh surface on the pad.

There is a lot of engineering debate as to their effectiveness these days with more modern brake compounds. For that reason a lot of teams (and I did in my SCCA days) use slotted as it provides gas ejection without weaking the rotor surface as much as cross drilling does. All that said, with the newer ceramic/CF brake discs, they are returning to a solid disc face. The F50 has an option of Ceramic+Aramid discs, and those are solid, as are the Porsche composite brake disc options.


Bentley LeMans car composite brakes
http://a4.cpimg.com/image/36/8E/15701814-6e85-016801E0-.jpg

RyanGiorgio
02-14-2003, 09:47 PM
Wow, Warren, i can see a lot of effort is going into this kit. You hand drilled all of those holes!? That amazes me. I would have used an electric drill because i am lazy ;). Can't wait to see it finished. Hope to pick myself up one soon. $55 USD there? I am amazed.

daggerlee
02-14-2003, 10:22 PM
Sometimes the reason for crossdrilling rotors is to reduce the weight.

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