APC Crap or Not?
DelSolSI-96
01-24-2003, 09:48 AM
Looking to get some projectors for my ride. 94 hatch, do they leak like there tails, are they worth it look good or are they just more apc cow dung
BLU CIVIC
01-24-2003, 10:00 AM
APC - .AMERICAN PRODUCTS CORP
IF YOU HAD A BAD EXPERICENCE WITH THEM BEFORE...THEN DON'T GO WITH THEM AGAIN....BESIDES THE OBVIOUS, GO WITH A COMPANY THAT IS SPECIFICALLY FOR HONDA OR TRY EBAY
IF YOU HAD A BAD EXPERICENCE WITH THEM BEFORE...THEN DON'T GO WITH THEM AGAIN....BESIDES THE OBVIOUS, GO WITH A COMPANY THAT IS SPECIFICALLY FOR HONDA OR TRY EBAY
KrNxRaCer00
01-24-2003, 01:04 PM
i'd say stay away from APC for those types of purchases. but i'd also stay away from ebay also. goto local shops an check out sites online. if PIAA makes some for ur car, then that'd prolly be the best quality for ur money. IMO tho. :D
TRDboi
01-24-2003, 01:20 PM
yah, APC is crap. You'll notice that's about all that places like PepBoys and JCWhitney sell...
speaking of APC and PepBoys, anyone see the model of the modified Civic or Accord that PepBoys sells w/ all the APC graphics all over it? It's a nice looking model, aside from the obvious... ;)
speaking of APC and PepBoys, anyone see the model of the modified Civic or Accord that PepBoys sells w/ all the APC graphics all over it? It's a nice looking model, aside from the obvious... ;)
hondacivic4drlx
01-24-2003, 01:28 PM
also if you buy aftermarket headlights, you should put cilicone around the seems. it keeps it dry and never fogsd up.;)
SilverY2KCivic
01-24-2003, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by TRDboi
yah, APC is crap. You'll notice that's about all that places like PepBoys and JCWhitney sell...
speaking of APC and PepBoys, anyone see the model of the modified Civic or Accord that PepBoys sells w/ all the APC graphics all over it? It's a nice looking model, aside from the obvious... ;)
Don't knock them just because Pep Boys sells them. I have a few APC items on my car, and they aren't any different than what you'd buy at animport shop. I just wouldn't get Altezzas or any of their headlights for my car. ;) What APC do I have? My intake for one is APC, and it is the SAME exact thing that you'd pay twice as much for from AEM for a short ram, exception being you can get the AEM intakes in colors. Same design though, so there's no difference there. My sidemarkers I have are APC as well, again, no different that any other side markers unless they can mess up wiring. ;) Never had a single problem with anything APC yet to date. Most of their stuff though I wouldn't get, not because it's crap (which it isn't) but because it just doesn't suit my tastes.
yah, APC is crap. You'll notice that's about all that places like PepBoys and JCWhitney sell...
speaking of APC and PepBoys, anyone see the model of the modified Civic or Accord that PepBoys sells w/ all the APC graphics all over it? It's a nice looking model, aside from the obvious... ;)
Don't knock them just because Pep Boys sells them. I have a few APC items on my car, and they aren't any different than what you'd buy at animport shop. I just wouldn't get Altezzas or any of their headlights for my car. ;) What APC do I have? My intake for one is APC, and it is the SAME exact thing that you'd pay twice as much for from AEM for a short ram, exception being you can get the AEM intakes in colors. Same design though, so there's no difference there. My sidemarkers I have are APC as well, again, no different that any other side markers unless they can mess up wiring. ;) Never had a single problem with anything APC yet to date. Most of their stuff though I wouldn't get, not because it's crap (which it isn't) but because it just doesn't suit my tastes.
whtteg
01-24-2003, 04:47 PM
IMO APC is CRAP! If you will notice most of their stuff comes from Tawian, even though it is called american products company. As for the intake being the same design, well maybe similar. I have learned that the cheap stuff is cheap quality. For example I went through 3 headers before I got one that did not leak 1st was a Ractive 2nd was a apc and 3rd was a airmass. All of which are poor quality compared to my dc sports header. Now I didn't notice any substantal hp difference but the dc sports header had a much better design for the gasket. And I have looked at the APC intakes and the tubes are about the same but the filters look like poor quality compaerd to an AEM or K&N . Just my .02
fuburyder14
01-24-2003, 08:06 PM
APC used to be the BOMB!! their products were always reliable. they never leaked or had any problems. then they got big, really really big. and their quality of products have gone down hill. we no longer carry or sell APC products anymore because of all the returned clear corners, taillights and headlights due to water leakage. if you want something really well made and reliable try OOEM obviously..if u cant, then get Denji and KS they are the beest for aftermarket headlights and taillights. i have never seen products so well packaged and prepared than the ones i have seen from Denji and KS and maybe TYC.
NuEra
01-25-2003, 05:40 PM
junk, did you ever see the guys w/ APC logos on their dash? What are they thinking?
SilverY2KCivic
01-25-2003, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by whtteg
IMO APC is CRAP! If you will notice most of their stuff comes from Tawian, even though it is called american products company. As for the intake being the same design, well maybe similar. I have learned that the cheap stuff is cheap quality. For example I went through 3 headers before I got one that did not leak 1st was a Ractive 2nd was a apc and 3rd was a airmass. All of which are poor quality compared to my dc sports header. Now I didn't notice any substantal hp difference but the dc sports header had a much better design for the gasket. And I have looked at the APC intakes and the tubes are about the same but the filters look like poor quality compaerd to an AEM or K&N . Just my .02
I'll agree to that on the actual filter element, nothing beats a TRUE K&N filter element, unless you're using like the A'PEXi power filter or an Akimoto kind. ;) But for the intake pipe itself, there' no real difference, it's what you stick on the end of it that matters most in a short ram.
IMO APC is CRAP! If you will notice most of their stuff comes from Tawian, even though it is called american products company. As for the intake being the same design, well maybe similar. I have learned that the cheap stuff is cheap quality. For example I went through 3 headers before I got one that did not leak 1st was a Ractive 2nd was a apc and 3rd was a airmass. All of which are poor quality compared to my dc sports header. Now I didn't notice any substantal hp difference but the dc sports header had a much better design for the gasket. And I have looked at the APC intakes and the tubes are about the same but the filters look like poor quality compaerd to an AEM or K&N . Just my .02
I'll agree to that on the actual filter element, nothing beats a TRUE K&N filter element, unless you're using like the A'PEXi power filter or an Akimoto kind. ;) But for the intake pipe itself, there' no real difference, it's what you stick on the end of it that matters most in a short ram.
wagsaccordsir
01-26-2003, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by TRDboi
yah, APC is crap. You'll notice that's about all that places like PepBoys and JCWhitney sell...
speaking of APC and PepBoys, anyone see the model of the modified Civic or Accord that PepBoys sells w/ all the APC graphics all over it? It's a nice looking model, aside from the obvious... ;)
Are you talking about the little Hot Wheels ones? I havethe Purple Pep Boys Civic... There is an Accord too? Do you know where I can get one? Don't even tell me Pep Boys either... I'm sure they are gone.... I havent seen anythin on ebay yet.. If you got a place there that has the Accord I would like two of them.. I will send you money... Peace
yah, APC is crap. You'll notice that's about all that places like PepBoys and JCWhitney sell...
speaking of APC and PepBoys, anyone see the model of the modified Civic or Accord that PepBoys sells w/ all the APC graphics all over it? It's a nice looking model, aside from the obvious... ;)
Are you talking about the little Hot Wheels ones? I havethe Purple Pep Boys Civic... There is an Accord too? Do you know where I can get one? Don't even tell me Pep Boys either... I'm sure they are gone.... I havent seen anythin on ebay yet.. If you got a place there that has the Accord I would like two of them.. I will send you money... Peace
emerge
01-27-2003, 01:02 AM
the only product ive ever bought from apc and been satisfied with is a few hyperwhite turn signal bulbs. and they faded within like 2months, lol. i bought some apc eyebrows, and one of them flew off when i was on the highway...LOL :silly2:
KrNxRaCer00
01-27-2003, 01:12 AM
on my accord, apc corners fogged, bulbs faded, side markers leaked, bumper lenses leaked...o yea...APC puts out GREAT products...:rolleyes:
SilverY2KCivic
01-27-2003, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by KrNxRaCer00
on my accord, apc corners fogged, bulbs faded, side markers leaked, bumper lenses leaked...o yea...APC puts out GREAT products...:rolleyes:
Hmm, I have APC sidemarkers and haven't had any problems with them leaking or anything like that. You sure you had the lenses on them secured tightly? The original set I had, the place that installed them cracked one of the lenses and it fell off one day on the freeway. I got another set of ones a little different, but still APC, and I have no complaints on them.
on my accord, apc corners fogged, bulbs faded, side markers leaked, bumper lenses leaked...o yea...APC puts out GREAT products...:rolleyes:
Hmm, I have APC sidemarkers and haven't had any problems with them leaking or anything like that. You sure you had the lenses on them secured tightly? The original set I had, the place that installed them cracked one of the lenses and it fell off one day on the freeway. I got another set of ones a little different, but still APC, and I have no complaints on them.
tynebeach
02-04-2003, 08:18 AM
I think they're crap cause half the time their products end up breaking or not working the way they're supposed to and also SO MANY RICERS USE THEM. Like just yesterday I saw a 92 Gold Integra with Seafoam colored headlight covers and banner and it also had APC stickers on it. I also saw a conversion van with black plexiglass over the headlights and they also drilled a circle of little holes in the headlights to try to make them look like Halos. He also had banners that said APC on them. Now why would someone want to share a name with cars like that?
CraniumDesigns
02-05-2003, 09:39 PM
I have an APC blue metal oil cap, but I jacked it from a booth at a car show on accident. I didn't pay for it. I had it my hand, got distracted by a car, and walked away with it. Then I said "Oh well." and put it in my bag. Haha.
sohc_vtec 2NR
02-05-2003, 09:43 PM
one word = APCrap! hehe..:bandit:
SilverY2KCivic
02-07-2003, 03:55 AM
Not to defend APC or anything, but unless you have PERSONALLY experienced or owned a product from them that failed or broke on you, how exactly can anyone else that has posted in this thread justify calling APC stuff crap? So if ricers use APC, and that makes it crap, then are carbon fiber hoods crap as well, since APC makes CF hoods, and ricers put APC stuff on their cars? ;) I didn't think so, better think before you speak people, pppfff :rolleyes:
tynebeach
02-07-2003, 08:19 AM
I think the majority of the people posting in this forum has either had APC on their cars or personally knows someone that's used it and hated it for one reason or another.
SilverY2KCivic
02-07-2003, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by tynebeach
I think the majority of the people posting in this forum has either had APC on their cars or personally knows someone that's used it and hated it for one reason or another.
Majority, but NOT all. ;)
I would like to see all that have posted in here tell why they don't like APC. And not because "oh, Pep Boys sells it, so it must suck!" Pep Boys sells motor oil, does that suck too? Again, people just don't think when they say stuff, not you personally, but just others in general.
I think the majority of the people posting in this forum has either had APC on their cars or personally knows someone that's used it and hated it for one reason or another.
Majority, but NOT all. ;)
I would like to see all that have posted in here tell why they don't like APC. And not because "oh, Pep Boys sells it, so it must suck!" Pep Boys sells motor oil, does that suck too? Again, people just don't think when they say stuff, not you personally, but just others in general.
whtteg
02-07-2003, 03:50 PM
I have apc clear corners on my civic and they leak! I have apc clear tails for my civic and they leaked and the reflector for the trunk didn't fit right at all! I tried a apc header and it was the biggest POS! I have also used some apc bulbs (red and amber) and they faded in 2 weeks. So I feel that I am justified in calling apc crap!
SilverY2KCivic
02-07-2003, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by whtteg
I have apc clear corners on my civic and they leak! I have apc clear tails for my civic and they leaked and the reflector for the trunk didn't fit right at all! I tried a apc header and it was the biggest POS! I have also used some apc bulbs (red and amber) and they faded in 2 weeks. So I feel that I am justified in calling apc crap!
Fair enough, totally justifiable there. I had gotten some of those APC Xenon 1157 type bulbs, and returned them ASAP because they lit up kinda greenish, and NOT hyperwhite like they were supposed to be. I want to try ti "Titanium" xenons they make, but I'm afraid to now, LOL. I'll stick with my Polarg M-14's I have. :) As for you're tails you got, I think that's something that's inherent to most aftermarket tails, but i have heard more complaints about the APC ones than any others. Headers, I'd ONLY go with a reputable company for that, since APC isn't generally performance oriented, as say a company like A'PEXi or DC Sports.
I have apc clear corners on my civic and they leak! I have apc clear tails for my civic and they leaked and the reflector for the trunk didn't fit right at all! I tried a apc header and it was the biggest POS! I have also used some apc bulbs (red and amber) and they faded in 2 weeks. So I feel that I am justified in calling apc crap!
Fair enough, totally justifiable there. I had gotten some of those APC Xenon 1157 type bulbs, and returned them ASAP because they lit up kinda greenish, and NOT hyperwhite like they were supposed to be. I want to try ti "Titanium" xenons they make, but I'm afraid to now, LOL. I'll stick with my Polarg M-14's I have. :) As for you're tails you got, I think that's something that's inherent to most aftermarket tails, but i have heard more complaints about the APC ones than any others. Headers, I'd ONLY go with a reputable company for that, since APC isn't generally performance oriented, as say a company like A'PEXi or DC Sports.
whtteg
02-07-2003, 05:53 PM
The only reason I tried the apc header is b/c I had a Ractive header and it was awful, then had a airmass and it was awful. The guy who owned the shop let me return them and said try this one , he had it in stock, so I said why not everything so far has been crap, it has to get better. Anyway I ended up withy the DC Sports, even thogh it wasn't the 4-1 like I wanted, but I learned a valuable lesson over the whole deal. I can say that switching to the dc I noticed hardly any improvement in hp, but quality mad up for it 2 times over.
SilverY2KCivic
02-07-2003, 08:08 PM
It's a live and learn thing with some parts unfortunately. Through trial and error, we find out which things are good, and which just fall apart after no time at all. But glad to hear you got it sorted out with a good quality header. :)
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