Pea shooter with a nice tip
dylly
01-13-2003, 10:28 PM
Right now I have a pea shooter for a tail pipe and I was wondering how to go about outfitting it with a nice chrome tip purely for looks of course. (Can't afford full exhaust overhaul right now). If anyone has any info or ideas please reply.
Tony
01-13-2003, 10:56 PM
save your money, and the embarassment and wait till you get the money for a real exhaust...trust me on this. I just went a cheap route and it sucks ass. You will get laughed at for just having a tip on your car, I know this from experience.
mdnnccivicrcr
01-13-2003, 10:58 PM
he's right man... save yourself the embarassment and hold off for a real exaust. I only put a tip on my car for laughs...
dylly
01-13-2003, 11:00 PM
Your right I should just wait. Whats the point in putting a tip on when the rest of it sounds and looks stock. Thanks for the advice dude.
mdnnccivicrcr
01-13-2003, 11:03 PM
my muffler has the tail-pipe rotten off and I'm still waiting on enough money to either mount my 3A Racing muffler or for a real exaust... hopefully a real exaust since I know a Rex in the junkyard with a Bro-speed exaust on it.
Melt
01-14-2003, 12:22 AM
Back in high school there was a guy with a 97 EX coupe who though he was the shit, fake tip, sidemarkers with RED bulbs .. it was pretty sad.
XxLuckyLisaxX
01-14-2003, 02:36 AM
DAMN U FOOLS MUST BE HELLA BROKE, EXHAUST ISN'T THAT MUCH UNLESS U HAVE TO HAVE A CAT-BACK SYSTEM
civicracer_1990
01-14-2003, 02:47 AM
hm.......there is absolutely no point in just buying a muffler........because it adds absolutely no performance to your car........your exhaust can flow like hell but if the pipe all the way there can't......then...............well you know.......save for a cat back man.......don't even do axle back cuz thats as dumb as a tip in my opinion.......
XxLuckyLisaxX
01-14-2003, 02:50 AM
still better than a tip man come on
mellowboy
01-14-2003, 03:07 AM
Even a whole cat back dont do shit for ur car either.
SiZ
01-14-2003, 09:49 AM
Originally posted by XxLuckyLisaxX
DAMN U FOOLS MUST BE HELLA BROKE, EXHAUST ISN'T THAT MUCH UNLESS U HAVE TO HAVE A CAT-BACK SYSTEM
Thats what I'm sayin'.. Like, you can get cheap universal mufflers all over the place, and go to an exhaust shop and have them custom bend you an entire cat-back portion for just a couple hundred bucks. If you really felt the need for an exhaust you'd know the only thing to do is to make it happen. :)
EDIT: I see you're from Ontario.. I too am from the wonderful North. :) Where in Ontario are you, I'm near London.
DAMN U FOOLS MUST BE HELLA BROKE, EXHAUST ISN'T THAT MUCH UNLESS U HAVE TO HAVE A CAT-BACK SYSTEM
Thats what I'm sayin'.. Like, you can get cheap universal mufflers all over the place, and go to an exhaust shop and have them custom bend you an entire cat-back portion for just a couple hundred bucks. If you really felt the need for an exhaust you'd know the only thing to do is to make it happen. :)
EDIT: I see you're from Ontario.. I too am from the wonderful North. :) Where in Ontario are you, I'm near London.
crxlvr
01-14-2003, 10:01 AM
i did that i just bought an Apexi muffler and got a meineke to mandrel bend some 2-1/4" pipe upto it for like $100
darolh
01-14-2003, 11:22 AM
Originally posted by civicracer_1990
hm.......there is absolutely no point in just buying a muffler........because it adds absolutely no performance to your car........your exhaust can flow like hell but if the pipe all the way there can't......then...............well you know.......save for a cat back man.......don't even do axle back cuz thats as dumb as a tip in my opinion.......
Not correct. The biggest difference is the muffler itself. A good axle back is an affordable mod that will help a lot. Mine did (all at the high end of course).
GRM a while back did an exhaust test and they got real good results with a decent muffler and muffler shop pipe. They compared this to a number of aftermarket exhaust systems. It wasn't even mandrel bent tubing. It was dirt cheap too.
Do not believe all that is written in brochures and ads. Remember they are tryin gto sell you something.
hm.......there is absolutely no point in just buying a muffler........because it adds absolutely no performance to your car........your exhaust can flow like hell but if the pipe all the way there can't......then...............well you know.......save for a cat back man.......don't even do axle back cuz thats as dumb as a tip in my opinion.......
Not correct. The biggest difference is the muffler itself. A good axle back is an affordable mod that will help a lot. Mine did (all at the high end of course).
GRM a while back did an exhaust test and they got real good results with a decent muffler and muffler shop pipe. They compared this to a number of aftermarket exhaust systems. It wasn't even mandrel bent tubing. It was dirt cheap too.
Do not believe all that is written in brochures and ads. Remember they are tryin gto sell you something.
sastanley
01-14-2003, 11:36 AM
I recently decided to do the muffler shop thing. I had 2.25" pipe from the cat back, and a 'turbo' muffler installed, and did not get a resonator put on. I think it sounds pretty good, and except for the larger tail pipe coming out, it looks stock...and it DEFINITELY helped on the top end. I used to feel the car start to drop off a little after about 5000 RPM, but even the 1.5 pulls as hard as it is able up to 6500 RPM.
4GZChatch
01-14-2003, 12:08 PM
If you want to go cheaper and sleeper, do what I did. I went to a local shop and told them I wanted 2.5" pipe and no muffler. They ran me a pipe and put in a gutted resonator from a '00 celica (looks like a glasspak, flows like a pipe) to keep the cops off my back. They charged me $140, it sounds great, looks almost stock, and added noticeable power all across the power band, especially at the top end.
kris
01-14-2003, 01:10 PM
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Nothing to be ashamed of here.
Nothing to be ashamed of here.
mellowboy
01-14-2003, 03:50 PM
Like i said a cat back wont do shit for your car if its not modified! You'll need some header to help u get a bit more.
darolh
01-14-2003, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by mellowboy
Like i said a cat back wont do shit for your car if its not modified! You'll need some header to help u get a bit more.
Once again. Not correct. The header gets you minimal gain. It is the item that gets you the most bang from from mods (that give revs). The first mod you do is the muffler/exhaust. Intake seems to be a reasonable deal too. The Honda stock cast iron manifold isn't that bad actually. The stock muffler is very restrictive.
Like i said a cat back wont do shit for your car if its not modified! You'll need some header to help u get a bit more.
Once again. Not correct. The header gets you minimal gain. It is the item that gets you the most bang from from mods (that give revs). The first mod you do is the muffler/exhaust. Intake seems to be a reasonable deal too. The Honda stock cast iron manifold isn't that bad actually. The stock muffler is very restrictive.
mellowboy
01-14-2003, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by darolh
Once again. Not correct. The header gets you minimal gain. It is the item that gets you the most bang from from mods (that give revs). The first mod you do is the muffler/exhaust. Intake seems to be a reasonable deal too. The Honda stock cast iron manifold isn't that bad actually. The stock muffler is very restrictive.
Ok what good is the cat back without headers? Thats what im tryin to tell u guys....
Once again. Not correct. The header gets you minimal gain. It is the item that gets you the most bang from from mods (that give revs). The first mod you do is the muffler/exhaust. Intake seems to be a reasonable deal too. The Honda stock cast iron manifold isn't that bad actually. The stock muffler is very restrictive.
Ok what good is the cat back without headers? Thats what im tryin to tell u guys....
cyberfelon
01-14-2003, 04:14 PM
haha, ive got stock piping all the way from a high flow cat to the factory carbon fiber muffler off of a Yamaha R1. the muffler shop 2 1/4 cat back piping is coming soon, they're gonna charge 130$ i think fot that, it sounds pretty good, but you should see a real power gain after the pipe
plkelley
01-14-2003, 04:15 PM
Just a high flow muffler alone will help. Stock mufflers are so restrictive. Put on a high flow muffler and run a steel rod through your cat a few times and you will notice a difference. Well...I guess most of you guys need your cat...here in WV the dont do emission tests.
darolh
01-14-2003, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by mellowboy
Ok what good is the cat back without headers? Thats what im tryin to tell u guys....
You don't have to have the headers. You'll get benefits from the less restricitve muffler. In fact you get more bang for the buck from a muffler than anything else.
Ok what good is the cat back without headers? Thats what im tryin to tell u guys....
You don't have to have the headers. You'll get benefits from the less restricitve muffler. In fact you get more bang for the buck from a muffler than anything else.
Tony
01-14-2003, 06:15 PM
shit i got a nice hole in my exhaust right before the glasspack(which is my muffler) sounds like shit right now, but waiting till I get some money to get a 5Zigen axle back and having a shop run some 2 1/4" pipes for 50 bucks.
Mellowboy: You sort of have a point, but you just said it wrong. A new exhaust will help, even without a new header on it, but with a new header, the exhaust will do even more. Any little thing you do to your exhaust will make a difference, might be a small difference, or a large difference. My friend has a Prelude with an aftermarket muffler(can't remember what kind) and shop pipes on it. When he puts his silencer in, it not only makes his car quieter, but also gives him more torque, because he got too big of pipes put on it and the silencer gives him more backpressure.
Mellowboy: You sort of have a point, but you just said it wrong. A new exhaust will help, even without a new header on it, but with a new header, the exhaust will do even more. Any little thing you do to your exhaust will make a difference, might be a small difference, or a large difference. My friend has a Prelude with an aftermarket muffler(can't remember what kind) and shop pipes on it. When he puts his silencer in, it not only makes his car quieter, but also gives him more torque, because he got too big of pipes put on it and the silencer gives him more backpressure.
SiZ
01-14-2003, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by darolh
You don't have to have the headers. You'll get benefits from the less restricitve muffler. In fact you get more bang for the buck from a muffler than anything else.
Its true.. An exhaust and an intake are two of the cheapest, easiest, and most beneficial (for the buck) mods for our Hondas.
Hondas stock exhaust manifold is very efficent.. Thats why a lot of cheaper headers will show LOSS in power in a lot of the RPM band. You have to buy VERY expensive headers in order to get good gains on Hondas because the stock peice does the job very well.
You don't have to have the headers. You'll get benefits from the less restricitve muffler. In fact you get more bang for the buck from a muffler than anything else.
Its true.. An exhaust and an intake are two of the cheapest, easiest, and most beneficial (for the buck) mods for our Hondas.
Hondas stock exhaust manifold is very efficent.. Thats why a lot of cheaper headers will show LOSS in power in a lot of the RPM band. You have to buy VERY expensive headers in order to get good gains on Hondas because the stock peice does the job very well.
mellowboy
01-15-2003, 03:28 AM
I know what u guys are sayin but don't go sayin that "oh i feel so much difference with the cat -back". Seriously i've experianced it before and did i feel a difference? NO. It only gives around 2-3 lousy hp. I haven't got a cat back for my ride yet. I'm waiting to get jdm header with dc sports cat back at the same time then i can say "wow" what a difference.:D
Civic Jim
01-15-2003, 08:29 AM
it aint worth messin' about with tips just get a proper exhaust system, its worth the wait and it wont look so GAY
darolh
01-15-2003, 11:48 AM
I was basing what I said in fact and not what I feel (although banging into the rev limiter hard for the first time after the tail pipe swap was a good data point).
You want to read some of the tests that are done by independant people, like Grass Roots Motorsports. They did an exhaust science project using a chassis dyno on a VW and the results were very interesting.
All I can say is if you have to replace your exhaust cause it's toast toss in a few extra bills and get a good muffler in it. Hell my axle back cost only $225 or so and it's all stainless so mo more rust. That makes for cheap power bump. If you wanna spend $400 on a header for 3-5 hp go for it.
You want to read some of the tests that are done by independant people, like Grass Roots Motorsports. They did an exhaust science project using a chassis dyno on a VW and the results were very interesting.
All I can say is if you have to replace your exhaust cause it's toast toss in a few extra bills and get a good muffler in it. Hell my axle back cost only $225 or so and it's all stainless so mo more rust. That makes for cheap power bump. If you wanna spend $400 on a header for 3-5 hp go for it.
kris
01-15-2003, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by darolh
All I can say is if you have to replace your exhaust cause it's toast toss in a few extra bills and get a good muffler in it. Hell my axle back cost only $225 or so and it's all stainless so mo more rust. That makes for cheap power bump. If you wanna spend $400 on a header for 3-5 hp go for it.
You will need a header eventually, if you do more work to your motor. Whether it is purchased first, or last, it will be needed.
All I can say is if you have to replace your exhaust cause it's toast toss in a few extra bills and get a good muffler in it. Hell my axle back cost only $225 or so and it's all stainless so mo more rust. That makes for cheap power bump. If you wanna spend $400 on a header for 3-5 hp go for it.
You will need a header eventually, if you do more work to your motor. Whether it is purchased first, or last, it will be needed.
1PhatCX
01-15-2003, 04:19 PM
This is my exhaust system, Ractive muffler/tip combo, supposed to increase power (according to them) i think it only gave me like 1 or 2 extra hp lol but the kid b4 me that owned the car put this on, just cut the factory exhaust off and welded this on to the stock pipe... it's stayin like that for now untill i can talk to my buddy at the muffler shop to add a bigger pipe for me so it flows a bit better.
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