win lotto - best car

if i won a lotto ticket for $40,000, what is the best stock street racing car to buy? and i would make mods later on...

Vette

Originally posted by DemonZX
Vette


ditto.:smoka:

Agreed. 350 hp for 40 grand is an unbeatable combination.

Vette... just hope you can afford the insurance. :)

Or LS1 Camaro SS stock would be good. then you've got almost 20k for to be work done to it... :)

You won the lotto?

haha not really, i just wanted opinions, though once i won $2. but my question is what brand new cheaper import (ie honda, nissan, etc.) would be the best car stock to take and mod it performance wise and body wise. I really like the looks of the old hondas not made anymore and was trying to think what car new to buy then mod it to run around a 10 and look sweet. I have about $40,000 to spend, although all work will be done professionally. Can it be done, and whats the best way to do it???

Originally posted by boganz45
haha not really, i just wanted opinions, though once i won $2. but my question is what brand new cheaper import (ie honda, nissan, etc.) would be the best car stock to take and mod it performance wise and body wise. I really like the looks of the old hondas not made anymore and was trying to think what car new to buy then mod it to run around a 10 and look sweet. I have about $40,000 to spend, although all work will be done professionally. Can it be done, and whats the best way to do it???

I'd wait and see how good the WRX STi or the Lancer EVO are when they come out later this year...and if price projections are correct, you'll still have about 9 to 8 large after you buy either one brand new.

i'll hafta look into that - whats the best honda or nissan to buy??? how much would I be looking at to make it run 10s?

well for a nissan or honda....


Well any Honda you buy at all, excluding the S2000, you could easliy run 10's with the 20-30 large left over. Personally, I'd take an Integra. But if you want ONLY Honda, then a Civic is the obvious choice. However, a 10 second Prelude or Accord is alot rarer (and expensive) than a 10 second Civic. You could get an S2000 for around 30k, but its probly used and with only 7-10k left over, you have the potential for 10's, but I wouldnt gurantee anything.


As for a Nissan, a Skyline running 10's is alot more than 40k. Unless you want like an R32, its still a pain in the ass to get one and still expensive. I'd say a 95 300ZX Twin Turbo is the obvious choice for Nissan. The slightly less powerful 240SX with SR20/Silvia conversion is still really cool, but I'd still rather have a Z. Both cars will easily run 10's with 40k in mind.

if i buy the honda brand new, which model is the best to buy to later upgrade, and with what stock options? i dont wanna buy it with all the body options then end up replacing it with a tighter looking kit. what do you think?

ITR all the way.

Originally posted by hybridsol
ITR all the way.

Agreed.

I'll take a 70's challenger with a 426 hemi restore it and make it run 9's.


Haha polygon beat you to it.

Hey SELF, who is that guy in your little thingy. He looks like a guy I know.

Originally posted by DemonZX
Hey SELF, who is that guy in your little thingy. He looks like a guy I know.

He's ME:D :D haha, do you know me??:D :confused:

You chould wait and see what nissan comes out with their suppost to come out with 10 new cars, 8 because the 350z and SE-R where two of the ten i think the skyline will be in the last 8

Originally posted by RACER D12
You chould wait and see what nissan comes out with their suppost to come out with 10 new cars, 8 because the 350z and SE-R where two of the ten i think the skyline will be in the last 8

Last I heard the skyline had been moved under the Infiniti name and would be a 4.5L v8 pushing 400hp...Just hearsay though...:D

You look just like my friend Brian. That's scary. Anyway Yeah I heard it would be a V8 also. Nice.....if they come out with a TT kit for it HOLY SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!1

That's a picture of me at my friends band's show at the Purple Porpus in Gainseville.............Click!
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I'll take a 70's challenger with a 426 hemi restore it and make it run 9's.


Definately. Huge ditto. But if you're looking for something NOT classic and rare to see and incredibly cool, I'ma hafta go with Vette. Wait, Vettes ARE incredibly cool, if not rare...

Originally posted by Cyprus106


Definately. Huge ditto. But if you're looking for something NOT classic and rare to see and incredibly cool, I'ma hafta go with Vette. Wait, Vettes ARE incredibly cool, if not rare...

They aren't too rare. I see them all the time around here, cool though. I don't know, I am just more original than that, I wouldn't suggest a Vette. I would get an exact replica of a 1965 Shelby Cobra.

Tiger Z100WR.

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Originally posted by Polygon


They aren't too rare. I see them all the time around here, cool though. I don't know, I am just more original than that, I wouldn't suggest a Vette. I would get an exact replica of a 1965 Shelby Cobra. :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:


Any car you can buy and is not a Mopar.We're all gonna die........

And for my 600th post a 600 hp Z! also a suggestion!...Click

AND

Originally posted by Neutrino
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Any car you can buy and is not a Mopar.We're all gonna die........

Well, perhaps I can buy you a casket if I have some left over money. I guess this means I loose the title of the Mopar Nazi??? :p

I was just having a moment here, but I understand that not everyone likes Mopar, though I would take a nice 1970 Challenger or a Cuda before the Cobra. ;)

And all I have to say about that pic Demon is; bootiful! :D

Originally posted by DemonZX
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Lotus Seven clone. Uses two ZX12 engines.
0-60 in 2.8 seconds, 0-100 in 6.3 seconds. And 0-100-0 in less than 12 seconds. A bit slower than a R500 around a track though.
Cost: £40000 :D

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Originally posted by hybridsol
ITR all the way.
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I don't think you can buy an ITR brand new... Or can you?

(We had 1) some are still in process, but you can't buy a 2003 if thats what you mean. There's always the type-S, but I like the ITR.

why would you want a honda car if you are able to spend that kinda dough on a car?

especially if you want a car that's best suited to being a race car...

buy an older subaru 2.5rs and swap in the 2.2 sti motor from the older sti. that would be kinda sick.

and cheap. and awd.

or you could find a supra, or a 240sx, and build it... for under 40k.

if you want a honda, get one, but you'll be disappointed by the money you have to spend to be as fast as some other cars

especially cars that are purpose built sports cars... (front engine, rear drive, not upgraded econo cars)

i'm not knockin honda, but they're not sports cars. when honda decided to build a purpose built sports car, they built the s2k. rear drive... see what i'm getting at?

and you said you wanted to run 10s. have fun doing that anywhere near streetable in a honda.

it's way more feasible in a large displacement or turbo rwd car.

Originally posted by flylwsi
why would you want a honda car if you are able to spend that kinda dough on a car?

especially if you want a car that's best suited to being a race car...

buy an older subaru 2.5rs and swap in the 2.2 sti motor from the older sti. that would be kinda sick.

and cheap. and awd.

or you could find a supra, or a 240sx, and build it... for under 40k.

if you want a honda, get one, but you'll be disappointed by the money you have to spend to be as fast as some other cars

especially cars that are purpose built sports cars... (front engine, rear drive, not upgraded econo cars)

i'm not knockin honda, but they're not sports cars. when honda decided to build a purpose built sports car, they built the s2k. rear drive... see what i'm getting at?

and you said you wanted to run 10s. have fun doing that anywhere near streetable in a honda.


This is your opinion...... not mine, Honda has many sports cars, that are far more inexpensive than the cars you just listed (not saying that these cars coulden't be modified to run excellent times with low funds). Yes contrary to what you believe you are "knocking honda", not all sports cars are rear wheel drive. I'm running low 10's in a crx we spent 4 grand on, Doubleoverhead is probably running a high 10 in a gsr, and I run 11's in a delsol. Thats just ppl I know I gaurentee there are ppl just as fast/faster utilizing honda's. An ITR is a sports car, as is an si and so on. Almost every car company makes econo boxes, not just honda.

Originally posted by hybridsol

This is your opinion...... not mine, Honda has many sports cars, that are far more inexpensive than the cars you just listed (not saying that these cars coulden't be modified to run excellent times with low funds). Yes contrary to what you believe you are "knocking honda", not all sports cars are rear wheel drive. I'm running low 10's in a crx we spent 4 grand on, Doubleoverhead is probably running a high 10 in a gsr, and I run 11's in a delsol. Thats just ppl I know I gaurentee there are ppl just as fast/faster utilizing honda's. An ITR is a sports car, as is an si and so on. Almost every car company makes econo boxes, not just honda.

Agreed...You might have heard of a guy named Norris, hyrbid. He owns a shop here in Northern Virginia, called Nu Image. 10 second Teg and an 11 second SI. Good guy, travels all over to race. Just bought himself a HUGE trailer to haul the Integra around in. Think you may have heard of or seen him, you're right in Penn. right? I know he goes all up and down the East Coast showing and racing.

Well if *I* had that kinda money, i'd do a cosmo swap to my FC, then mod that (port, bigger badder turbo, you know) And have my self a low 10 FC. for aobut 25K total. And who would expect a slow old POS RX-7 right?? heehee.

Then again im kind of partial too, and i know FC's aren't new.

considering i own a heavily modded honda, i know where you're coming from...

but if you have that much cash... why start with something that will be limited almost immediately ?

and on my point... honda built a purpose built sports car. s2k. nsx.

they adopted some fwd cars to be sports coupes, but not full on sports cars like supras, vettes, and what not.

i love my prelude, and i'll keep it forever, but with fwd, there's a trade off. either you run fast in a straight line, or your run fast on the twisty stuff. there's not that trade off with a supra, vette, silvia conversion 240, or many other rwd cars.

i know i can't go super fast in a straight line, but i know i can catch and conquer in the twisties. that's why i have my car.

if i had my choice, i'd have a rwd car though.

and again, no. i'm not knocking hondas. i'm just saying they're limited b/c of fwd. as any fwd car is, not just honda.

Originally posted by flylwsi
considering i own a heavily modded honda, i know where you're coming from...

but if you have that much cash... why start with something that will be limited almost immediately ?

and on my point... honda built a purpose built sports car. s2k. nsx.

they adopted some fwd cars to be sports coupes, but not full on sports cars like supras, vettes, and what not.

i love my prelude, and i'll keep it forever, but with fwd, there's a trade off. either you run fast in a straight line, or your run fast on the twisty stuff. there's not that trade off with a supra, vette, silvia conversion 240, or many other rwd cars.

i know i can't go super fast in a straight line, but i know i can catch and conquer in the twisties. that's why i have my car.

if i had my choice, i'd have a rwd car though.

and again, no. i'm not knocking hondas. i'm just saying they're limited b/c of fwd. as any fwd car is, not just honda.
limited almost imediatly???????? WTF are you talking about, Were still working on upgrades for the CRX its all about the front wheel drive and the limited slip diff. Also Why the hell is everyone obsessed with burnouts? I want my car to grip off the line? The fact that its front wheel drive means very little, besides better traction comes from weight to the front of the car, (the engine). I will admit I don't think that honda's are the best cars for drifting, but some ppl like to run the twisties with them.

i don't think i mentioned burnouts, or drifting.

my point is that a honda becomes almost purpose built when you want to run, say, 11 or lower (this is my opinion, mind you, don't jump down my throat), it starts to become a track only car.

i like cars that can hit a road course quickly and hit the drag strip quickly. and drive home.

if it's a fwd car, you have to settle for a little slower 1/4 than you would with a comparable equipped rwd car.

i understand this is about traction, but you are again limited there.

there's alot of fast rwd and awd cars that run ridiculous 1/4 times with no modification.

and ideally, you want the weight to transfer onto the drive wheels, which a fwd car doesn't do.

that's why you have to work on the suspension, as you said you are, to get it to put the power down.

so... when i said limited, i meant you would have to modify it to get more out of it. as you said you are doing.

is my point making sense yet?

Originally posted by flylwsi
i don't think i mentioned burnouts, or drifting.

my point is that a honda becomes almost purpose built when you want to run, say, 11 or lower (this is my opinion, mind you, don't jump down my throat), it starts to become a track only car.

i like cars that can hit a road course quickly and hit the drag strip quickly. and drive home.

if it's a fwd car, you have to settle for a little slower 1/4 than you would with a comparable equipped rwd car.

i understand this is about traction, but you are again limited there.

there's alot of fast rwd and awd cars that run ridiculous 1/4 times with no modification.

and ideally, you want the weight to transfer onto the drive wheels, which a fwd car doesn't do.

that's why you have to work on the suspension, as you said you are, to get it to put the power down.

so... when i said limited, i meant you would have to modify it to get more out of it. as you said you are doing.

is my point making sense yet?

Yea, I agree with you here. fwd isn't as good as rwd for the quarter. Fact of life. Not to say that fwd can't run with rwd or anything, just like he said, between comparatively equipped fwd and rwd cars, teh rwd will win the race. Or at least win in the 60':)

And Honda's(excluding the s2k and nsx) are not true sports cars. They're sport compacts. Not saying that's a bad thing, but there is definately a difference.

that's my point really...
if you want to build a car that can do both, run the 1/4, and the road course, in respectable times, fwd isn't really the way to go.

that was all my point was. i want an all around car...

and the notion of running a 10 sec 1/4 was brought up, and have fun doing that in a street honda. right...

i know my cars limits.

Errrrrrrr You're all wrong...

its all about the '94 Ford F350s...




Yeah... ownage...! :hehehe:

only if it's an all orange crew cab dually that's had all the handles shaved, and it's bagged on the ground on 19in dually wheels.

and i mean on the ground...

then i'll take your f350...

Actually I prefer Chevy 3500HD Crew Cab Duallys with a 4/6 Drop.


I just threw in the Ford for the hell of it. :p

you could do the same with that chevy...

as long as it's bagged to the ground. only way i would drive it...

Originally posted by flylwsi
i don't think i mentioned burnouts, or drifting.

my point is that a honda becomes almost purpose built when you want to run, say, 11 or lower (this is my opinion, mind you, don't jump down my throat), it starts to become a track only car.

i like cars that can hit a road course quickly and hit the drag strip quickly. and drive home.

if it's a fwd car, you have to settle for a little slower 1/4 than you would with a comparable equipped rwd car.

i understand this is about traction, but you are again limited there.

there's alot of fast rwd and awd cars that run ridiculous 1/4 times with no modification.

and ideally, you want the weight to transfer onto the drive wheels, which a fwd car doesn't do.

that's why you have to work on the suspension, as you said you are, to get it to put the power down.

so... when i said limited, i meant you would have to modify it to get more out of it. as you said you are doing.

is my point making sense yet?
I garentee I'm running a low 11. maybe even a 10 if I decide on bringing up my boost. Limited slip differential is a way of gripping without rwd.

To self An S2k isint a sport compact????????
Yes they are all sports cars. Who are you to say there not? Its all opinion right?

Fly What's your Idea of "heavily modded prelude", evidentilly you don't really grasp short lift technology and high RPM? you can still do that with your prelude.

ok...

i understand what you're running. that's great.
take your car to a road course and run a quick time there too... i doubt it will happen.

you're missing my point.

my car is nicely sorted, and the motor has been rebuilt, and the head worked over and what not. it's got way more done than any other third gen with a b20 still in it this side of a turbo.

my point is that my car is well sorted for both the straight and the corner. that's how i like em.

let not diss my car just b/c i said something against honda..

the point is that i own one. i'm just making a point.

Originally posted by DblOvrhedCamron

I garentee I'm running a low 11. maybe even a 10 if I decide on bringing up my boost. Limited slip differential is a way of gripping without rwd.

To self An S2k isint a sport compact????????
Yes they are all sports cars. Who are you to say there not? Its all opinion right?

Fly What's your Idea of "heavily modded prelude", evidentilly you don't really grasp short lift technology and high RPM? you can still do that with your prelude.

my ass you run low 11s with a FWD car. Unless you have gone nothing short of tubbing the entire car getting it under 1500lbs, are making over 450hp, have skinnies in the rear, and have hop bars in the back, there is absoultely no way on earth you will come into 10second territory.

http://www.streettuners.com/papadakis/PA13011029079.jpg
http://www.streettuners.com/papadakis/PA13011029296.jpg
http://www.streettuners.com/papadakis/PA130110288131.jpg

when your car looks like this, then I will believe you.

my delsol runs mid 11's without a drag conversion and DOHC's car possibly runs lower than that. I can vouge for his above statement. Look guys everyone has a preference, "Honda's can be made fast utilizing low funds" was the only point I was trying to convey. (It all comes down to preference) Again our CRX is a perfect example, and I have not yet finished the drag conversion on that car.

PS- self nu image sounds very familiar, what color is the ITR?

Originally posted by R1-rider


my ass you run low 11s with a FWD car. Unless you have gone nothing short of tubbing the entire car getting it under 1500lbs, are making over 450hp, have skinnies in the rear, and have hop bars in the back, there is absoultely no way on earth you will come into 10second territory.


when your car looks like this, then I will believe you.

WRONG...
http://filebox.vt.edu/users/mself/forumspics/brett2.jpg
http://filebox.vt.edu/users/mself/forumspics/brett3.jpg
http://filebox.vt.edu/users/mself/forumspics/brett4.jpg
http://filebox.vt.edu/users/mself/forumspics/brett1.jpg

We're running very low 10s @ 25lbs

Originally posted by hybridsol
PS- self nu image sounds very familiar, what color is the ITR?

The Integra is red, Norris also has an all motor SI that is VERY quick, he races that one all over the place as well. The SI is dark purple. Yea, NU Image is a great shop and pretty well known around here.

Just post your timeslips...

this isn't about timeslips..

i understand what you guys are saying, and we've both said our parts. i think we can come to some type of agreement there.

i understand the low funds idea, and that works for you...

i'd rather have the rwd car myself, given the budget. there's much more potential going that route...

but that's my opinion...

Perhaps you should take a look at this, a FWD K car doing 10s.

http://www.thedodgegarage.com/video/ned_supra_mpg.zip

Self: What tires do you utilize to run the low 10's? Not those 17inch rims with low profiles right?

poly...
i understand what you're saying. but how does it handle?

that's my point... i'm saying you would have to build it pretty much purpose built one way or the other with a fwd car.

rwd is a bit more versatile...

that's my point..

i know you can have a fwd car that's quick both ways, but it's usually one or the other...

Wow.. check out who stopped by!

Who gives a crap what it handles like when it is a 10 sec. car. If you are building it to be that fast, are you going to be taking corners in it? Or, are you going to be draging it?! Exactly!.....Click!

considering this guy doesn't want to have a drag specific car... hmm...

he said what should he buy as the "best stock street racing car"

i don't know about you... but i've been known to drive a street car around corners.

and why not have a car that can handle? that's kinda nice every once in a while.

Originally posted by flylwsi
poly...
i understand what you're saying. but how does it handle?

I don't know, probably not too bad, but I was directing that pretty much at R1-Rider.

i'm assuming my point is somewhat understood then?