win lotto - best car

Originally posted by flylwsi
i'm assuming my point is somewhat understood then?

Yes, very.

just wanted to make sure... thanks for the backup

I wasn't saying that you shouldn't have a good hanling car by any means! I was making a point to the guys that were talking about 10 sec. 4 cylinders and civics and what not. That is a lot of power for a front wheel drive car to be taking corners. That's all.:cool:

that is my point...

you can't really have that kinda 1/4 time and be able to corner. you could do it a bit more feasibly in a rwd or awd car.

that was what i was trying to say...

Originally posted by flylwsi
why would you want a honda car if you are able to spend that kinda dough on a car?

especially if you want a car that's best suited to being a race car...


if you want a honda, get one, but you'll be disappointed by the money you have to spend to be as fast as some other cars


i'm not knockin honda, but they're not sports cars. when honda decided to build a purpose built sports car, they built the s2k. rear drive... see what i'm getting at?

and you said you wanted to run 10s. have fun doing that anywhere near streetable in a honda.


Originally posted by flylwsi


but if you have that much cash... why start with something that will be limited almost immediately ?

and on my point... honda built a purpose built sports car. s2k. nsx.

they adopted some fwd cars to be sports coupes, but not full on sports cars like supras, vettes, and what not.


this is what you said......... I never disagreed about RWD/AWD being better for cornering. (besides there not that bad, I managed to keep up with an M3 on twisty roads)

again... my point has been missed...

if he is going to have that kind of budget, why start with a fwd car at all?

most people build up the honda b/c that's the car they could afford...

he's working witha bigger budget and can start with a better car.

and i'm not saying that honda doesn't make some really nice cars, but in my experience, fwd cars find their limits much earlier in handling, which is not generally a concern for straight line guys.

it's also easier to make a rwd car run the times you are running... and i'm not putting that down at all, b/c you're running much faster than i ever will... but you seem to have done the work yourself as well...

the poster noted that he would be having a shop do the work... which gets expensive to get 10s out of a fwd car vs. 10s in a rwd car...

Originally posted by Polygon


They aren't too rare. I see them all the time around here, cool though. I don't know, I am just more original than that, I wouldn't suggest a Vette. I would get an exact replica of a 1965 Shelby Cobra.

Polygon hits the nail on the head!

427 Cobra in competition trim...

2400lbs, 500hp... Of course, 500hp from a Ford FE big block is not exactly stressing it, get into forced induction, or nitrous... :D

Originally posted by Polygon


I would get an exact replica of a 1965 Shelby Cobra.
can't argue with that. :D

I dunno, I'm not too big a fan of hondas except for the prelude in terms of racing. To me Civics, and accords are like cars my grandma would drive and modifying it to race is just silly. ofcourse this is just my opinion

Originally posted by flylwsi
again... my point has been missed...

if he is going to have that kind of budget, why start with a fwd car at all?

most people build up the honda b/c that's the car they could afford...

he's working witha bigger budget and can start with a better car.

and i'm not saying that honda doesn't make some really nice cars, but in my experience, fwd cars find their limits much earlier in handling, which is not generally a concern for straight line guys.

it's also easier to make a rwd car run the times you are running... and i'm not putting that down at all, b/c you're running much faster than i ever will... but you seem to have done the work yourself as well...

the poster noted that he would be having a shop do the work... which gets expensive to get 10s out of a fwd car vs. 10s in a rwd car...
first of all its not a point, its an opinion...........which is fine, I have no problem with your views. Second- true Ive done all the work to my car, but you think there going to charge you more at a shop to modify a car, just b/c its a honda? I can see FWD having trouble keeping up with a AWD/RWD car in turns, but not a quarter mile. (ITR-Limited Slip Differential) If your looking for muscle go for the stang. (go back a few pages, he asked about nissan and honda)

At the drag strip, an ITR is also at a major disadvantage, as is any FWD car. The fact that it has a LSD isn't a real advantage, unless the other car has an open differential. You can't run a 10 second pass in a FWD car without wheelie bars, because the weight transfers to the rear wheels.

Hybrid, I know you love your Hondas, but they're really just an impractical layout for extreme performance... :(

Bull Shit.. you can too run 10's with just a LSD.

Hell you can do it on stock steelies and pepboy special tires too!

I know this crazy mofo who runs low 10s consistently with a Honda which is FWD mind you, with just LSD and some SAF Wheels and Tires.

Wouldn't FWD cars be limited due to their weight transfer tendencies? When you hit the gas, its only natural to transfer your weight backwards right? Thus, leading to the front wheels, and drive wheels, with less traction. Isn't that why the fastest 1/4 cars are RWD?

That's exactly the reason, Fatninja19.

Bullshit, Redneck, he had at least a K&N filter on that thing too, and probably high end spark plug wires ;)

Oh yeah, I forgot a vehicle that owns a Cobra... The MK2 GT40 Replica... Complete with Ford 427 FE engine, weighs 2400lbs, mid engined, huge tires, and timeless styling :D

http://www.billzilla.org/gt40.jpg

Bullshit, Redneck, he had at least a K&N filter on that thing too, and probably high end spark plug wires


I think Redneck may have been serious about that....




Oh yea.. the heck is SAF???

ok I don't think everyone knows what LSD does so I'll explain first off when torque is applied to the differential, the differential case will spin and throw the pinion into the pressure ring cam, ok the pressure ring is then pushed out against the clutch plates squeezing them together. Which causes the wheels to gradually lock together, depending on the power applied. Almost eliminating the wheel spin in a straight away/ hard cornering and pushes power to the wheels evenly when more power is applied to the wheels. On acceleration and deceleration, LSD provides even grip. I understand that rwd has better weight transfer, never said it didint. (Although the difference weight transfer is not as large as you think) also need to factor in the weight of a honda in comparison to other cars. I probably would have lost to a certain muscle car if it weren't for my excellent grab during my launch.
BTW- all I was trying to do was give him a suggestion for a car purchase. He asked for a nissan or a honda. (I like the ITR)

Yeup, but he should really know what he is getting into, before he starts gravitating towards a certain brand...

If you really get into it, Nissan is the best Japanese manufacturer for drag racing, because of their extensive line of RWD turbocharged car, and their ridiculously overbuilt bottom ends.

I was serious Cbass...

Our Friend Hybridsol runs low 10s in his CRX with just that... a LSD and stock Steelies.

Up untill this point you never knew that about his CRX, and you thought it was some super tricked out car. Its a very simple machine. If you feel the need to argue this point, take it up with Hybrid.

So yes, it is possible.

SAF = Stock as f^ck

When you get right down to it though...What are the fastest quarter-mile cars in the world running?? There's your answer on THAT debate then. But that's not really the question at hand. He was asking which Honda/Acura, like Hybrid said. I say the SI engine just because my friend has one and he and I work on it constantly and it's the Honda I have the most experience with. He's running upwards of 20lbs and is looking for 10s this spring:)

Originally posted by RedNeck383
I was serious Cbass...

Our Friend Hybridsol runs low 10s in his CRX with just that... a LSD and stock Steelies.

Up untill this point you never knew that about his CRX, and you thought it was some super tricked out car. Its a very simple machine. If you feel the need to argue this point, take it up with Hybrid.

So yes, it is possible.

SAF = Stock as f^ck

Actually, I did know that about his CRX, he posted a pic, and I commented on the stock steel wheels, and how they are inherently cooler than alloys.

Now, he's also running a spoon B18C5 engine with a bigass turbo, as I recall... That's an entirely forged bottom end, and it's with the giant turbo, it's flowing like hell. Correct me if I'm wrong...

I didn't say anything about steel wheels and LSD being limiting factors, in fact, a locker differential is essential to putting down power like he has. Just so happens he's got a LSD, which is good for cornering and braking as well.

What I'm interested to know, is what sort of gas he runs that engine one :D

I say stick with a nissan ..... thier i said it go on and flame me im ready for ya:twoguns: :machinegu :aug2: :badass: :flamer: :rocket: :D

Originally posted by RedNeck383
I was serious Cbass...

Our Friend Hybridsol runs low 10s in his CRX with just that... a LSD and stock Steelies.

Up untill this point you never knew that about his CRX, and you thought it was some super tricked out car. Its a very simple machine. If you feel the need to argue this point, take it up with Hybrid.

So yes, it is possible.

SAF = Stock as f^ck

Is the RedNeck defending the Honda driver...you guys...

*tears well up in his eyes*

...wha, WHA? THAT? That's just some dust in my eye FOO!

Anyhow, as much as I am an advocate of Hondas, I still say to go with the new Scooby STi...300HP, 305TQ...more powerful than the Japanese version (for once) because the USDM version gets the 2.5 liter flat-4 instead of the 2.0 mill (FYI: the old Porsche Turbos came with 2.3 liter flat motors...there's potential for ya).

If you had 20grand more, I'd say do a one-off project like a Civic/Integra body with a CR-V powertrain (CR-V is a Civic-based chassis, so in theory, it's AWD system can fit under a Civic/Integra chassis). Beef up the AWD, stick a turbo-charged b20 or b18 in there with 400+HP (hybridsol will show you how;) ), and shock everybody.

Originally posted by carrrnuttt


Is the RedNeck defending the Honda driver...you guys...

*tears well up in his eyes*

...wha, WHA? THAT? That's just some dust in my eye FOO!

Anyhow, as much as I am an advocate of Hondas, I still say to go with the new Scooby STi...300HP, 305TQ...more powerful than the Japanese version (for once) because the USDM version gets the 2.5 liter flat-4 instead of the 2.0 mill (FYI: the old Porsche Turbos came with 2.3 liter flat motors...there's potential for ya).

If you had 20grand more, I'd say do a one-off project like a Civic/Integra body with a CR-V powertrain (CR-V is a Civic-based chassis, so in theory, it's AWD system can fit under a Civic/Integra chassis). Beef up the AWD, stick a turbo-charged b20 or b18 in there with 400+HP (hybridsol will show you how;) ), and shock everybody.


ya thats evan better get the sooby thats what im doing that or a BMW im just waiting for the devil to call me back we worked out a deal i think it was 22,550 for my sole

Actually, the 930 had a 3.0 engine... Damn you, now I'm filled with 911 Turbo lust... :hehehe: Oh well, time to go play NFS5 ;)

40K???

It has to be new? You're sure? Absolutely sure? You must have a new car? There is no way you'd want to buy used?

Okay.

*sighs and puts away classified for fuel injected Ferrari 308GTS*

:angel:

Um, how about a Lancia Stratos kit car, with a turbocharged 3.0 Alfa Romeo engine?

http://www.aerosim-research.com/stratos/images/9_1.jpg
http://www.aerosim-research.com/stratos/images/2_1.jpg
http://www.aerosim-research.com/stratos/images/5_1.jpg
http://www.aerosim-research.com/stratos/images/3_1.jpg

It should only make about 500hp, but then again, it's only 1800lbs... :D

http://www.aerosim-research.com/stratos/stratos.html

:eek: I'll take 5!

Click! :hehehe:

They originally came with Ferrari Dino V6s, making 190hp, but the competition versions sported superchargers, and dominated rally from the late 70s to early 80s... Nice little car, considering the money you pay for a replica...

Originally posted by Cbass



What I'm interested to know, is what sort of gas he runs that engine one :D
I'll give you a hint its clear and formulated for high compression/ high rev. it comes in a drum and is expensive as shit.:silly2:

Originally posted by DblOvrhedCamron

I'll give you a hint its clear and formulated for high compression/ high rev. it comes in a drum and is expensive as shit.:silly2:

Its gotta be 110-114 octane Race Fuel... But if its clear... Methanol?

I thought Race fuel was tinted blue... Hmmm

Do you order it in 55 Gallon drums?

Maybe he gets it from the airport?? I know you can get 109 at the airport not too far from my house. At least I think you still can...

Hmmm well maybe not Methanol... how about C14plus??

isnt that like 115 octane?

I'd wait and see how good the WRX STi or the Lancer EVO are when they come out later this year...and if price projections are correct, you'll still have about 9 to 8 large after you buy either one brand new.



Why does eveyone always want to buy the fastest model, why not just buy a regular WRX and pimp it out yourself, thats half the fun?:jumpie:

hybridsol can you post a pic here of your CRX I want to see what everyones talking about.

IS300 would be nice
http://superstreetonline.com/superstreet/featuredvehicles/p155772_image_large.jpg
I love those kind of rims they look like they could cut you

Originally posted by dolla_bill0913
Why does eveyone always want to buy the fastest model, why not just buy a regular WRX and pimp it out yourself, thats half the fun?:jumpie:


Well first of all, the STi comes with a 2.5 liter engine, a bad assed AWD system that allows you to controll what percentage of torque goes where, a 6 speed, and etc....

all of which the regular wrx will not have..

I like that IS300 right up until you hit the wing and tail lights... my ambition is to get an IS300 and replace the stock tailights with custom made solid red lenses... :hehehe:

Sorry, I hate altezzas... HATE HATE HATE!

Originally posted by Cbass
I like that IS300 right up until you hit the wing and tail lights... my ambition is to get an IS300 and replace the stock tailights with custom made solid red lenses... :hehehe:

Sorry, I hate altezzas... HATE HATE HATE!

ya but at least a wing makes sense on this car:p silly ricers and thier wings on hondas :hehe:

Originally posted by RACER D12


ya but at least a wing makes sense on this car:p silly ricers and thier wings on hondas :hehe:
yea, I'm shure that car IS300 needs downforce. :rolleyes: (that car has more exterior work than engine, -gold rush from super street) Bling Bling isin't really my style, but to each his own.

Some one keeps up with their super street also.

Hybridsol post a picture of your CRX i want to see

Superstreet is classier then most of those import tuner style mags. Less crap, more stuff. :D

Originally posted by GreatOne01
Superstreet is classier then most of those import tuner style mags. Less crap, more stuff. :D

Along with more advertisement... and more advertisment.. But good mag nonetheless... One question though.. how come every car featured has very very smiliar sticker configurations on their cars??? I mean, they always have the stickers in a column in the very front of their doors... like right behind the front wheels..

Originally posted by fatninja19


Along with more advertisement... and more advertisment.. But good mag nonetheless... One question though.. how come every car featured has very very smiliar sticker configurations on their cars??? I mean, they always have the stickers in a column in the very front of their doors... like right behind the front wheels..

Hmmm, never noticed. But probably because that's the "cleanest" way to do your stickers. Most of the cars featured probably only put the stickers on because of sponsorship contracts, and lining them up there doesn't take up much space but still gets the point across. Better than having them strewn all about the car, totally killing the exterior paint scheme:)

There's one place stickers belong IMHO, and that's under the hood! :D

Originally posted by Self


Hmmm, never noticed. But probably because that's the "cleanest" way to do your stickers. Most of the cars featured probably only put the stickers on because of sponsorship contracts, and lining them up there doesn't take up much space but still gets the point across. Better than having them strewn all about the car, totally killing the exterior paint scheme:)


Hrm... thats a good reason...

On the subject of sticker location, it's also the "JDM" place to put them. Take a look through Option 2, Initial D, or Wangan Midnight. Mot of the cars have a little row of stickers along the trailing edge of the front wheelwells. Of course, these are representing actual parts used when it comes to Japanese hot rods.

Originally posted by RACER D12
hybridsol can you post a pic here of your CRX I want to see what everyones talking about.
I didint post any pics dohc did, I don't have a digicam. (At the moment the car is hideous anyway) Still trying to fix up the body. Here's the link to where he posted pics. http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=75778&perpage=15&pagenumber=3

BTW- its a team car, not just mine.

(and in reference to sig- God drives a Ferrari):D

Ha, God drives a Porsche 917/30... If He created the world in 6 days, do you think He would be satisfied with the power of a mere Ferrari? Nah, the Man needs at least 1200hp on tap, at any given moment ;)

http://gto-racing.nexen.net/CanAm/canam_porsche917_30_2.jpg
http://gto-racing.nexen.net/CanAm/canam_porsche917_30_1.jpg

Wrong again Cbass... :rolleyes:

God... this Dude. :jumpie:
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/932186jesusfresh.jpg

When Racing he drives a... :sun:
http://www.corvetteracing.com/photos/largethumbs/3headlight_t.jpg

When he's pimpin around... he drives a... :smoka:
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//pictures/VEHICLE/1996/Toyota/4273/010171-E.jpg

I hope that settles it... :D :hehehe: :lol2:

You do know that constitutes blasphemy! Actually, I have photographic evidence Jesus drives a Porsche 924... in fact, he even posts on the 924 board ;)

I don't think God drives anything, instead he is pimpin in the back of his very long stretch limo. He has them all to choose from, lincoln, mercedes, hummer, so its whatever he feels like riding in.

Jesus is the chauffeur.

well......

I guess he had you going there cbass......

I don't know what you guy's are talking about?! he drives a Bently! Uh, why do you think there are wings around the big "B"?!

God doesn't usually drive... He rides a turbo'ed Hayabusa and also a GSX-R 1000 set up for the track.

Did I ever show you guy's & gal's the Lambo my friend transported?! If not here it is, if so sorry for posting all these things again.

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I can tell Devil is a prostetant... :rolleyes:

No, really. God drives a Porsche... Of course, he removed the steering wheel, he is Jesus after all...

http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/JesusDrivesa931.jpg

And for the record, I didn't shop that ;)

http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=5289&highlight=jesus