1985 Porsche 930

The last three models I've built have been nearly box-stock, and that has gotten boring, so I decided I wanted to do a full detail build. I'm not so confident in my scratch-building skills, so I wanted to work on those too. I recently bought this kit on eBay for about $20, a pretty good deal considering other Fujimi Enthusiast kits go for $35-$45. I plan to open up the trunk on this one, and scratchbuilding as many details as I can. Here's what I've done so far, pretty much just opened up the hood and made everything fit. Speaking of fit, this kit really doesn't fit together at all, so that should add to my skills too. The trunk on this car needed major work to be able to put the body on the chassis. The circled areas in the photos are where I had to grind a lot of material to get it to fit. The mounting plate for the windshield had to be ground down a lot too, but I decided I'll make new ones out of acetate because the clarity of the kit glass is pretty crummy.




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By the way, does anyone have any chassis pictures of this car? I've found everything else I need, but no chassis pics....

Great start, I'll follow. I love this model and I have some in the stash of those 911 enthu.. can't help for now with refs, but I promise to check.

Looking forward to this Joe :thumbsup:

I would change the way the pics are posted. Progress looks cool.

Good job so far :)

I share your opinion on Fujimi's 'ES' kits, they are nice and detailed but have some fitment problem. I started a 1967 911R from the same serie and already lost a lot of time to clean all the plastic flashes around the parts.
I'll check your thread often :grinyes:

www.pelicanparts.com

I visited that site often when finding reference info for the 6 or 7 EM 911 kits i've got(finished 1, started on another)

good luck on your project, these kits aren't the easiest but they are sure rewarding once finished...

Gray

Thanks for the interest, guys. stryfe101, thanks for that link, there's more pictures there than I know what to do with! MidMazar, what's wrong with the way I posted pictures? Are they too big?

Nice work, always love seeing older 911's on here.

I've been looking around for links to restoration projects:

http://69.13.120.185/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=46061&d=1169346369
http://69.13.120.185/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=46058&d=1169346310

But the usual Google searches aren't giving me good results.

Anyway, I have a hardback book on the 911 that I'll be happy to send you, as long as you'll eventually send it back ;) I'll also send you my foldout cutaway of the 930 turbo (from 1986) if I can dig that out of storage.

Great start Joe.:smile:

zak78, thanks for the offer, but I'm afraid I would lose or damage your book if I borrowed it, but thanks again for the offer! Thanks for those pics, they should really help.

I made a little progress yesterday and today, I built hinges for the trunk hood out of styrene and wire. Pictures are pretty self-explanatory.

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wow
the hinges look really good
great job so far

Great start. I have never seen hinges done this way, usually they are made out of wire but I like how they look and I will have to consider doing them this way for some future projects for realism depending on the car.

Good Start!

Thanks for the comments, guys!

I built one Enthusiast 911 once, and I found it a pleasure to work with! The only troubles I had concerned the rear wheel suspension arms. Everything else went together very nicely. So good luck with everything on the build...happy scratchmodelling

I agree with Les - a very nice approach to the hinges and well made.

Nice one, Joe :thumbsup:

Nice work !

Thanks for the replies, guys! I made hinges for the engine cover, this time out of wire because there wasn't enough room for the plastic-style ones I made for the trunk. I'm not quite sure I like how it turned out, what do you folks think?

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Deja vu! :rofl:

Looks good to me :)

I am surprised though that there is room for all that wire and tubing but not for some styrene hinges.

A buddy of mine here in Poland came up with a really cool (IMO) idea of laminating thin brass sheet with thin styrene sheet. The result was that he had a meterial that was thin, strong and pliable. He used it on some hinges for the trunk of a Daytona 365 and the result was excellent.

The hinge looks good to me, nice and strong, I guess you're worried about inconsistency though. Will you be able to take the cover on and off after assembly? Seems like that would be a good feature (but don't ask me why ;) And would the tube be easily visible in the final model?

I think the hinge looks really good, I also wonder if the tube will be visible. Maybe if you cut out a section from the middle and kept only what you needed to hold the hinge, it would be hidden away more?

I made some more progress on the Porsche this week. I mostly focused on the chassis, which had lots of sinkholes, flash, and other problems. All of the sinkholes were filled with Tamiya putty or sanded out. The interior has structural ribs molded on the floorboards, but from my reference pictures, they aren't visible on the car so I covered them with sheet styrene. Moving on to the trunk, I noticed that there is a hole where the front shocks mount. On the real car, there's a shock mount, so I fixed that with a circular piece of styrene and a photoetched rivet. That's pretty much it for now.

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Nice job :thumbsup:

I like your shock top things!

It looks like it's the same chassis for all their generations of 911. My '67 has the same chassis and I did (nearly) the same modifications.
Good job so far :thumbsup:

The hinges look good, but as Klutz said...I´m quite qorried whether there is enough room underneath the bonnet..

looks like a lot of work, but the result will be worth it from what I can see !
Will be watching since a fujimi enthusiast 911 is on my to-do list some day..

Thanks for the replies, guys. When I made the rear hinge, I mocked up the engine to make sure everything fit with the hinge in place, and worked just fine! However, Klutz sent me a link that showed where a a hinge was made so it would stay open when opened; I may try it if I can find the right materials.

I may try it if I can find the right materials.
I can help with that if needed - just let me know :)

awesome work, looking forward to seeing more.

Just when you think you know it all, There are building ideas like this that make your jaw drop. Nice work buddy.

Thanks for the comments, guys. I have a fairly large update for me this time. I got the body in primer and removed those stupid holes in the bumpers for the license plates to attach to. I also started on the interior, and promptly realized the side panels didn't match up at all with the rear "seat". A few pieces of styrene and some putty filled the gap between the seat and the panel. I also drilled out the instrument faces. Eventually I want to replicate the glass over the instruments with acetate.

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P.S. I'm not very experienced in the area of sharing my WIPs; if my updates are too detailed or insignificant, etc. let me know!

Nice work on the door panels, Joe :thumbsup:

You are right to do the displays with acetate. The effect is very nice afterwards and the upside is that you don't have to worry about that carrier film around the round decals. I suggest you do it like I did in my Daytona/Dino and just place the "dry" behind the dash - it makes alignment easier to get right.

I was looking at your door panels and I couldn't help but think those speakers were jest begging to be detailed ;) A new styrene surround with a piece of Lipton's Pyramid tea bag mesh behind it would look great IMHO :evillol: (of course, you probably wouldn't be able to see them after final assembly....)

Your updates are just fine! There is no souch thing as an insignificant or too detailed update IMHO. There is ALWAYS someone out there who will learn form what you share - just the same way we all learn from what others share.

It's looking really good, your beautiful preparation will pay off big time. I have an EM lambo on my list, so it will be very interesting to read your comments as you go through this one :)

Now that finals are over I have much more time to model!

I’ve been working on the trunk more. When looking through my references, I noticed some major discrepancies between the kit and my photos. One was the height of the fuel tank. Gluing a 1mm styrene spacer on the bottom of the tank fixed that problem. The shape of the tank was also off, so I added some volume with Milliput epoxy putty, sanded when dry, and filled any minor problems with Tamiya putty. Next up were the sides of the trunk, the wheelwells. The kit depicts these as a curved shape. The pictures I have show a more angular construction, so I cut out the curved portion and built the correct wheelwells with more sheet styrene. It’s not completely correct still, but I think it’s much closer.

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Nice and clever mods, Joe :thumbsup:

Great job Joe.

I have most of the major components mocked up in the trunk now. I'll eventually scratchbuild the electronics box on the driver's side of the trunk and washer bottle, then add fine details and kit parts from there. I also started work on the engine block and transmission. It was painted Tamiya XF-16 flat aluminum because it's coarse grain looks like cast aluminum. A wash was added, and cleared with microscale flat for a rougher cast appearance, and then detail painted.

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The trunk came out nice!!
Good work :)

Nice, you got a great cast-look there.

You really care about the detail. Good job man. I'll looking forword to see it finish.

Fantastic detail work!:smile:

Very nice detailing work!

This thing is looking really good! Keep it up!

Here's a sneak preview of the paint....I hope I can make the rest of the body this shiny!
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Edit: I don't know why my pictures are so small, I loaded them 800X600. Does anyone else use Putfile?

For me, the best looking Porsche ever. And you are doing it justice. :cool:

I built this same model (except slant-nose version) a couple of years ago and have been looking for another one ever since to do it justice. My kit fit together surprisingly well (except the turbo piping was stubborn). The final body-to-chassis fit was beautiful. And that was when I was inexperienced...
The structural ribs probably are on the floorboard, but are usually covered with carpet?

Make sure to super-detail the engine. For lots of pics of the wiring and plumbing, go to www.pelicanparts.com (http://www.pelicanparts.com) and check out the "exploded parts views," which covers all Porsches in full detail.

Nice work!

Alex

Edit: I don't know why my pictures are so small, I loaded them 800X600. Does anyone else use Putfile?

If you can switch to photobucket, you'll not have this problem. I think it's one of the best free image hosting sites. :)

Make sure to super-detail the engine.

Don't worry, the engine will be the centerpiece on this model. :grinyes: I actually had a friend send me an owner's manual and repair manual for the car, so I shouldn't have any problem figuring out where everything goes.

Thanks for the replies and interest, guys!

I've been wanting to start mine for a while now. I like what you did with the trunk.

Here's a sneak preview of the paint....I hope I can make the rest of the body this shiny!
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Edit: I don't know why my pictures are so small, I loaded them 800X600. Does anyone else use Putfile?

I'm not sure if I've had too much rum this afternoon.....but what is this picture?

robrex, it's the hood of the car reflecting the light from my desklamps. My camera couldn't decide whether to focus on the lights or the hood. :screwy:

Finally I have some progress on this one worth showing! The main body has been polished, now all that remain are the front and rear fascias as well as the engine cover! I got some engine work too, namely the exhaust. It was painted with metallic gray, then heat-stained with Tamiya clear orange, blue, and smoke.

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Such a glossy paintjob!!! I supose it's already polished and waxed, or is it straight after painting? What paint did you use?

Spectacular paint job, Joe. Nice and shiney :thumbsup:
What "recipe" did you use?

The wash on the engine also looks very convincing.

Keep it up :thumbsup: X 2

Wow! That's what I call WET LOOK! :) is that automotive paint or hobby paint? what kind of clear coat did you used?

Very nice!

amazing paintjob. Is this done by can or airbrush?

That's a f...g shiny paintjob :sunglasse :eek: