If God was real

If God was real I would slash his throat and beat that fuck into the ground

Im not even joking

rough day?

What did God do now?

an explanation would be nice. it seems kind of weird when you just randomly say "i would slash so and so's throat" without an explanation. trust me, when you say that in an elevator, people get quite nervous.

Sweet I have company in hell :biggrin: If I had nickel for every time I've said somethign along those lines....my car would be running 11s

If God was real I would slash his throat and beat that fuck into the ground

Im not even joking
It apparently doesn't sound like a joke. Why blame Him if you doubt he's even real?

If I had nickel for every time I've said somethign along those lines....my car would be running 11s

No it wouldnt, it would be weighted down with all those nickels and be running in the 30's, if not 40's...





...on the 1/8. :icon16:

Why blame Him if you doubt he's even real?


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We are told that He is all-knowing, all-powerful, and all-good. If these three are true, then the world is a paradox to this given criteria. Therefore, at least one has to be false. St. Augustine and Acquinas struggled with that bit a tad...

If God was real I would slash his throat and beat that fuck into the ground

You couldn't. God knows karate or kung fu or something. He learned it just because of guys like you. Also, He's bulletproof.

You couldn't. God knows karate or kung fu or something. He learned it just because of guys like you. Also, He's bulletproof.

:rofl: that was funny

You couldn't. God knows karate or kung fu or something. He learned it just because of guys like you. Also, He's bulletproof.


Haha...God = Neo...:grinno:

You couldn't. God knows karate or kung fu or something. He learned it just because of guys like you. Also, He's bulletproof.
Haha, not even Chuck Norris can get to God.

:uhoh: Uh, let's not start up that thread again....:lol:

Haha, not even Chuck Norris can get to God.

What? Chuck Norris can get to anyone he wants to!

But what's the point of slashing someone's throat and then beating them to the ground?

Are you kidding? Chuck Norris taught God all the super-mega-hella-awesome fatal roundhousekicks he knows. We shouldn't be worried about Nuclear Bombs, we should be worried about pissing off Chuck Norris.

Chuck Norris's tears cure cancer. Too bad he never cries. EVER.








Got that one off youtube, hahaha.

Chuck Norris's tears cure cancer. Too bad he never cries. EVER.








Got that one off youtube, hahaha.
:lol:

Yea, I think that act of Dane's is hilarious. It's way more funny if you get the little tidbits of the Catholic faith he throws in there.

i've come to a conclusion based on how this thread has gone. god is chuck norris. therefore whoever started this thread should go and beat down chuck norris

That would be rather interesting (hard) trying to explain the reasoning behind that one (my original post), incase anyone was wondering, nothing out the normal happened. Anyways, i do find it rather ironic (or something like that) that if God was real (he isn't) I would not be a follower of his to say the least.

That would be rather interesting (hard) trying to explain the reasoning behind that one (my original post), incase anyone was wondering, nothing out the normal happened. Anyways, i do find it rather ironic (or something like that) that if God was real (he isn't) I would not be a follower of his to say the least.

maybe if you believed in God he would bless you with a better car. have fun in hell.

Two pages of nothing? come on.

maybe if you believed in God he would bless you with a better car. have fun in hell.

I know huh. Like be blessed with maybe a....98' Trans Am automatic or something. Maybe if all of Africa believed in God, they might not have to go through starvation and civil war all the time. Oh wait a sec...they do believe in God. Hey what's up with that?!

I guess I better pack my bags for hell then too. I hear all the hot chicks are there, plus you get the best lawyers if Heaven sues you, so we'll be having fun alright. If youre ever lonely in Heaven (since methinks only you, Mother Teresa and Jesus are going to be chillin' there), come visit some time if you get bored. :slap:

Hmmm. Were you with the lady at McD's from this thread, by any chance : http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=677510

I know huh. Like be blessed with maybe a....98' Trans Am automatic or something.

I think that's what stereotypical black people call a "burn".

Laugh Out Loud.

I know huh. Like be blessed with maybe a....98' Trans Am automatic or something. Maybe if all of Africa believed in God, they might not have to go through starvation and civil war all the time. Oh wait a sec...they do believe in God. Hey what's up with that?!

I guess I better pack my bags for hell then too. I hear all the hot chicks are there, plus you get the best lawyers if Heaven sues you, so we'll be having fun alright. If youre ever lonely in Heaven (since methinks only you, Mother Teresa and Jesus are going to be chillin' there), come visit some time if you get bored. :slap:

Hmmm. Were you with the lady at McD's from this thread, by any chance : http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=677510

if you know God isn't real then why are you wasting your precious time trying to disprove him? I know it's certainly not for my benefit. anyways believe what ever you want to man, not my problem.



and just for fun let's compare a bone stock version of my
....98' Trans Am automatic or something that you reccomended, with the 96 ford probe gt:


http://upload32.com/upload32/I12/1172750293.bmp

looks like you made a good choice there Shpyder.......................

if you know God isn't real then why are you wasting your precious time trying to disprove him?
Not once in my post am I trying to disprove His existence. I beleive in God. I was specifically talking about the "be back in a few years" sign He sometimes posts in His shop.



and just for fun let's compare a bone stock version of my
that you reccomended, with the 96 ford probe gt:


http://upload32.com/upload32/I12/1172750293.bmp

looks like you made a good choice there Shpyder.......................
What? Isnt that Trans Am exactly the car I happened to mention that he should be blessed with if he were to believe in the Almighty? I mean, what better car would God bless the faithful with? And with an auto transmission too? That's just mad bonus. You know, I always knew God was a GM kinda guy. (But I still think he might drive a Probe as his daily driver once in a while).



Also, I sure has heck hope that your V8 5.7L Trans Maam can smoke a stock 2.5L Probe auto. Had me guessing there a bit until you put those numbers up. Dang it. That means my 1.6L civic would get blown outta the water by your Trans Am too. Sigh, this world is so unfair.

Not once in my post am I trying to disprove His existence. I beleive in God. I was specifically talking about the "be back in a few years" sign He sometimes posts in His shop.

I misinterpreted what you said then,, my apologies. I assumed you were taking sides with the person who made this thread. and sarcasm aside, i'm well aware that there are several people with cars on this site that could run circles around me.

God isn't real anyway so chill.

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We are told that He is all-knowing, all-powerful, and all-good. If these three are true, then the world is a paradox to this given criteria. Therefore, at least one has to be false. St. Augustine and Acquinas struggled with that bit a tad...


This really isn't a problem at all, from a theological point of view.

The problem is, people want to blame God for everything bad that happens. However, if He's responsible for all the bad, then you must also attribute to Him all the good as well. The question is, do you want a God who gives you free will, or a God who only lets "good" things happen to you? Because theologically speaking, you can't have it both ways. Either people are free to choose good or evil, right or wrong, and therefore are responsible for the world they live in, or God is controlling everything and we have no free will.

The problem is, people want to blame God for everything bad that happens.
Once again. The problem is that we are told that God is :

1) All-knowing.
2) All-powerful
3) All-good.

Were all three true, there would be no evil.

When you say "people want to blame God for anything bad that happens", you are basically saying that evil exists because either:

1) God is all-powerful and all-good, but He is not all-knowing, and does not know when His help is needed.

Or

2) God is all-powerful and all-knowing, but He is not all-good, and therefore does not help.

3) God is all-good and all-knowing, but is not all-powerful, and cannot come to our assistance all the time.


Having broken this down, it is easy to understand, given the three common characterstics which have been always attributed to a single divine presence, why people get frustrated when they don't get what they want. "Do your homework, then you can play". But what happens if you did as you were told, completed your homework, but arent allowed to play? There-in lies the problem of how people misinterpret the concept of God with the role of God. It is a different argument altogether when you introduce the concept of control and free-will.

One thing I see...If God were all good, why would he have created evil (or Lucifer for that matter)?

One thing I see...If God were all good, why would he have created evil (or Lucifer for that matter)?
I think the concept was that god gave lucifer free will and lucifer wanted different things than god did. But that brings up the next question, why didn't god just bust a holy cap in his ass instead of banishing him to hell?

I think the concept was that god gave lucifer free will and lucifer wanted different things than god did. But that brings up the next question, why didn't god just bust a holy cap in his ass instead of banishing him to hell?Exactly, if Lucifer didn't see things God's way, then why didn't God just destroy him right then and there? So in essence, God created evil. But for what reason?

This isn't about if God exists or not, it's about if He, as in the way many fascist ignorant fundamentalist soccer mom christians know God, exists or not. If that God exists, than I see no reason to worship him, and would rather go to hell with Satan.

This isn't about if God exists or not, it's about if He, as in the way many fascist ignorant fundamentalist soccer mom christians know God, exists or not. If that God exists, than I see no reason to worship him, and would rather go to hell with Satan.

:lol::rofl::grinno: well aren't you a BAD ASS.

This isn't about if God exists or not, it's about if He, as in the way many fascist ignorant fundamentalist soccer mom christians know God, exists or not. If that God exists, than I see no reason to worship him, and would rather go to hell with Satan.Yeah, Iknow it wasn't about if he is real or not. I'm just going off of Sphyder's post of he cant be all knowing/good/powerful.

:lol::rofl::grinno: well aren't you a BAD ASS.

Oh I am, and you watch your mouth ! I'm real bad.

Apparently all the words in my post made it difficult to read through to completion. So, for emphasis:

Free Will

The very basis of the Christian theology is that humans have a free will to choose God (good) or not to choose God (the absence of good, or evil). So re-read my first post and think a little harder.

(While in the realm of Judeo-Christian theology)

Do you want God to:

A) Prevent bad things

B) Allow freedom of will and choice

These two choices are mutually exclusive, they cannot both exist at the same time. So Christian theology actually goes with choice 4 (which you must have fogotten to include)

4. God is all-powerful, all-knowing and all-good, but humans armed with free will are none of these things.

You also have to remember that most (if not all) "bad" situations in life involve two human sides, so even if one person asked God to "come to their assistance", the other person may make no such request. Many times people ask God to intervene, even if His intervention would require removing the free will of the other person involved.

The usual favorite is when people say "If God is so wonderful, why do people get cancer?"

If you're so concerned about this question, try reading the Bible, it actually answers that question quite clearly. However, most people that discuss religion in this way (that applies to any and all religions) do not actually want to LEARN anything, only to have some "evidence" that said religion is plainly (in their mind) false.

I think the concept was that god gave lucifer free will and lucifer wanted different things than god did. But that brings up the next question, why didn't god just bust a holy cap in his ass instead of banishing him to hell?

nope.
according to most devil/satan stories, lucifer (and other angels) weren't given free will; them being servants of god. The reason why lucifer was cast out of heaven was because he refused to bow down to god's creation (man) and did not understand why god seems to prefer man over his angels.
this is of course just a story and one that doesn't quite fit into it's own mythology either.
If the angels did not have free will, how could lucifer refuse to bow down?

the way I see it, lucifer is just another angel of god doing his job and he is just a victim of bad press of people who don't understand him and his duties.
he isn't god's adversary, he is god's tool to test man; he is your adversary that you have to overcome if you want to get inside those pearly gates.
that is why he exists.

The very basis of the Christian theology is that humans have a free will to choose God (good) or not to choose God (the absence of good, or evil).

I reject that theology because the majority of the the people in the world are not christian, but the majority of the people in the world are good.

but the majority of the people in the world are good.

Although I am mostly unfamiliar with your world, I would greatly appreciate directions on how to get there.

On-topic: Christian theology holds that no one is truly good, other than God.

Although I am mostly unfamiliar with your world, I would greatly appreciate directions on how to get there.

drop out of whatever is clouding your mind and you'll find you're already there.

On-topic: Christian theology holds that no one is truly good, other than God.

i think your preacher or bible study layman dumbed that one down to a level even you could fall for. "all that is good comes from god" is not a christian invention. it's old testament, and probably borrowed from other religions.

Goddammit, quickly Scorpion!
Give us a reason for this post before an Inquisition is called.

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition

drop out of whatever is clouding your mind and you'll find you're already there.

....what?

i think your preacher or bible study layman dumbed that one down to a level even you could fall for. "all that is good comes from god" is not a christian invention. it's old testament, and probably borrowed from other religions.

No one "dumbed" anything down, I'm simply explaining a fundamental principle of the theology in question. By the way, Christians believe in the old testament, in It's entirety.

Peronal insults, especially considering I haven't even stated my personal beliefs, are one of the reasons I usually shy away from discussions of these types. Someone makes a relevant, meaningful and informative post and you insult their intelligence and/or personal beliefs? GROW UP.

and probably borrowed from other religions.

Gee, that's a very convincing statement. If you want to add to a discussion of this nature, you might consider actually having a clue about the topic being discussed before jumping in with such mind-shattering insight as "probably borrowed from [another] religion". I'm going to resume my lurking now, and hope I can find an intelligent discussion somewhere on these boards.

Christian theology holds that no one is truly good, other than God.

do you agree with this and its implications?

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition
http://ceruleansanctum.com/images/inquisition.jpg


Moved from Stress Release (since the originator hasn't been back) to Philosophizing.

Chuck Norris IS God...