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Peugeot 307 WRC 1/24 Heller. From '04 Gronholm to '05 Märtin.


Eero15
02-18-2007, 11:49 AM
Hey there.
I bought the Peugeot 307 '04 kit long time ago.I am a big WRC phan.To be sharp then i am Markko Märtin phan.So i decided to rebuild this '04 Peugeot to '05 Peugeot.
Heres pictures from original:
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/1023/peugeot001ya3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/1002/peugeot002jr9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
(You can see that i have marked the places need rebuilding)
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/8190/peugeot003en6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

To make it look like a '05 Peugeot i had to rebuild the radiator hole in front and some small details.
Pictures from progress:
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/8093/peugeot005vd5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And the biggest problem of all are the decals.I only have the Gronholm decals.But luckily i found a very kind user called potsie ,who kindly promised to send me the Märtin decals.Thank you!:)

All comments and criticism are welcomed.
Eero

stevenoble
02-18-2007, 12:07 PM
Looks like a nice start on the front vent re-modelling.Keep the updates coming.

rallymaster
02-18-2007, 01:35 PM
Hello Eero,

very nice try and start.
but pay attention I think you're doing some mistakes...

- In the front spoiler, all the "hole" has to be opened, it seems you put putty on its edges...
- Fenders have to be widered. the 2004 Peugeot was 1770 wide but the 2005 was 1800 ! it's not a big size difference reported top the model but with such heller big plastic thickness... :uhoh:

front lightpods aren't really well sized, but that's a conception problem...

I think that whereas you still didn't mention and figure it you've seen that rear wing is different ? :wink:

Heller roll cage is also false (better saying not complete I think, I cannot exactly swear what but I know something is not good with the roll cage)


Anyway, good luck and happy building with this kit.
this Heller kit would require hard work to be well converted and even improved but if you make it that will be a great car !

Phil

Eero15
02-18-2007, 02:47 PM
Hello Eero,

very nice try and start.
but pay attention I think you're doing some mistakes...

- In the front spoiler, all the "hole" has to be opened, it seems you put putty on its edges...
- Fenders have to be widered. the 2004 Peugeot was 1770 wide but the 2005 was 1800 ! it's not a big size difference reported top the model but with such heller big plastic thickness... :uhoh:

front lightpods aren't really well sized, but that's a conception problem...

I think that whereas you still didn't mention and figure it you've seen that rear wing is different ? :wink:

Heller roll cage is also false (better saying not complete I think, I cannot exactly swear what but I know something is not good with the roll cage)


Anyway, good luck and happy building with this kit.
this Heller kit would require hard work to be well converted and even improved but if you make it that will be a great car !

Phil

But when i look at the picture there are no holes in edges.Only one big at center.And i noticed that the rear wing is different.I am going to rebuild it also.i dont know about the rollcage.Ill figure it out someday.

Thanks for feedback.:rolleyes:

Mango_p
02-18-2007, 02:51 PM
Nice start! :) I will follow your progress.

As Phil said before there is a couple of differences between the models.
The rear view mirrors aren't the same for example.

Good luck with the rebuild! :)

Kind regards
Magnus

rallymaster
02-19-2007, 04:35 AM
But when i look at the picture there are no holes in edges.Only one big at center.And i noticed that the rear wing is different.I am going to rebuild it also.i dont know about the rollcage.Ill figure it out someday.

Thanks for feedback.:rolleyes:


In fact there is a small black panel that covers brakes air intakes, but this small panel is on front edge of the spoiler and hole is wider than yours.
If you putty back of the hole don't forget to open air intakes in the sides and not only letting deep of hole closed without covering the front of the hole.

But take a look at my brother's WIP (especially page 2 ---> close up of front spoiler) or finished model, it's better than explanations.

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=510834

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=668151



Phil

Guido
02-19-2007, 04:39 AM
Seems like a courageous plan, but what keeps me puzzled is why one would try to convert a 2004 version into a 2005 one if the 2005 version is available as well?

Eero15
02-19-2007, 06:32 AM
Seems like a courageous plan, but what keeps me puzzled is why one would try to convert a 2004 version into a 2005 one if the 2005 version is available as well?

Yea that keeps bothering my friends also.
Well i am a huge phan.But i am using my money to other Märtin's cars.So i decided that if i already have that model car then why not to build it.Like i sayd i bought this kit a long time ago.


And thank you rallymaster for useful help.I will make this hole a bit wider.And then try to build the intakes.

SteveK2003
02-19-2007, 06:29 PM
Cool, I didn't even know Heller made a 307. I'd rather spend half the money on this than pay for Tamiya's kit and give them negative reinforcement to make more like that.

I wonder if the decals and PE sets available for the Tamiya kit will fit this: I'd love to build the 2006 OMV Peugeot Norway cars, but don't feel like spending $75 to build each one.

Eero15
02-20-2007, 07:02 AM
Cool, I didn't even know Heller made a 307. I'd rather spend half the money on this than pay for Tamiya's kit and give them negative reinforcement to make more like that.

I wonder if the decals and PE sets available for the Tamiya kit will fit this: I'd love to build the 2006 OMV Peugeot Norway cars, but don't feel like spending $75 to build each one.

Actually i have some Tamiya PE parts for 307.And they fit.:iceslolan
And that was my point also.It costs a little too much.i can buy almost 2 other cars for that money.And it was half cheaper than Tamiya one.

Eero15
02-25-2007, 04:24 PM
Hello Again.
Update!
I have built the side air takers:
http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/8021/peugeot007df7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And today i builted a new radiator,which was higher than old one.And i covered it with mesh.So when its painted then it looks really neat.I opened the hood wents.They will have a mesh also.Only with much smaller holes.And i builded new muffler tip and changed the position of muffler also.And i started to rebuild the rear wing.Its gonna be a long work.
Sorry for the bad pictures:frown:
Radiator:
http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/236/peugeot011rz9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Hood holes:
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/1151/peugeot012mc6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Muffler(you can see the old position holes on the picture)
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/6049/peugeot014sx0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/779/peugeot013kv1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Rear wing:
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/4195/peugeot015ty6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Comments and criticism is welcome.
Cheers!
Eero

rallymaster
02-26-2007, 04:52 AM
wow, good job ! that's not an easy way you chose, but it's promissing !

For the side air intake in the front spoiler, you'll have to insert a small edge which comes a little out the air intake itself, due to the fact the 2005 car is larger than the 2004, then all parts follow the extension, spoilers too. :)

I have tons of reference pics for the 307, would you have some ?
I only need and email address and I can send a Win Rar file.

if you are interested please use this address: [email protected] (higher sending capacity then my principal email address) :wink:


Phil

Eero15
02-26-2007, 06:43 AM
To be honest i need pictures from it.Add me to your msn or something like that list.I sended my email to your PM.
And i am thinking about adding the width to the car.So I guess I just have to glue a strip of styrene to the wheelarches.

Eero

rallymaster
02-26-2007, 07:24 AM
To be honest i need pictures from it.Add me to your msn or something like that list.I sended my email to your PM.
And i am thinking about adding the width to the car.So I guess I just have to glue a strip of styrene to the wheelarches.

Eero

If I were you and if that doesn't sound impossible to you, i would better sand the existing wheel arch top edge before gluing a sheet of styren, that will allow you to rebuild more fine wheel arch edges.

when you'll get the pics I'm sending to you at the moment (uploading in my mailbox :wink: ) you'll see that the edge of wheel arch are a few different between 2004 and 2005.

I'm really impressed by the challenge you're leading here... (well done with rear wing !) :thumbsup:


Hope to be usefull and help you making it.

Phil

Eero15
02-26-2007, 08:08 AM
What do you mean under sanding the top edge??
I was thinking like glue it on.And then use putty to make it smooth.

rallymaster
02-26-2007, 12:05 PM
The edge of the wheel arch is too thick for a 2004 car on the heller kit.

If you make the extension starting from this wheel arch edge you may get a very disproportionnated top of the wheel arch.

I think it would be better to sand it first to reduce its size, then put the extension and finally work on its thickness.

the wheel arch edge isn't the same in 2005 as in 2004.
2004 one is fine, 2005 is thicker due to the 15 mm length more.

If only I could say that in french... I realize it's not easy to understand what I mean. :disappoin

I will try to find and post pics to show it clearly...


anyway take a look at the pics I sent, you must see what I mean by yourself :wink:


Phil

Eero15
02-26-2007, 03:10 PM
Hello!
hmm..Interesting..Ill try to figure it out.Some pointing pictures would be worthy.

Todays update:
I worked a few hours on a wing and WOW,it looks quite good.:grinyes:
http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/1169/peugeot019ic1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/7085/peugeot021zk7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/4718/peugeot016kl2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

C&C are welcome

Oh yeah and rallymaster: If you have any pictures about 2005 Peugeot 307 with nightlights,please send them to me!Thank you!:rolleyes:

Cheerz
Eero

rallymaster
02-27-2007, 04:58 AM
Oh yeah and rallymaster: If you have any pictures about 2005 Peugeot 307 with nightlights,please send them to me!Thank you!:rolleyes:

Cheerz
Eero

Photobucket is in maintenance this morning, so it's in your mailbox ! :wink:

there are pics of 2004 but nightlights were the same in 2005.

Phil

Eero15
03-12-2007, 10:19 AM
Little update:
I cut the dashboard into two pieces.So it would look like a 2005 Peugeot console and dash.I made new steering column.And i made the ''gearing paddle'' on the steering wheel.And im gonna make a backup gearing mechanism on the steering column.The dashboard needs a lot sanding.But you will get the picture.
Pictures:
http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/945/peugeot025ln2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2127/peugeot023jl1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Cheerz!
Eero

PatRedmond
03-12-2007, 04:28 PM
Well, best of luck with this kit.
Hope you can make it look good.

drawzer
03-12-2007, 04:37 PM
Nice work on this one!

Eero15
03-18-2007, 07:17 PM
Hey Hey!
Update!
Today i finished the rolling chasse.I made new gearing paddle.I made second gearing switch and handbrake.Also i made some other necessary stuff.And also i cuted the holes into the seats for the belts.Pictures:
Left:old seat.Right:seat with belt holes.
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/3249/peugeot028lb0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Gearing paddle:
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/1153/peugeot031cm7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Break disc:
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3094/peugeot037jg5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Wheel on the chassis:
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/2072/peugeot042hs8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Wheel test on car:
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/9783/peugeot039uz1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5494/peugeot040sj6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3223/peugeot041vr9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
The Interior:(You can see the gearing mechanism on the steering wheel bar and handbrake next to it.And also the central console.:
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/6347/peugeot046ui9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Interior needs painting and some decals.And some wireing is coming too.

Tell me what you think!
Cheerz!
Eero

rallymaster
03-19-2007, 04:07 PM
Impressive work knowing you chose the Heller kit.
I really wish you good luck with it, as I already know what work has to be done on the Tamiya kit so for this heller kit...

Phil

Eero15
03-23-2007, 01:34 PM
Updating thread!
Hello!
The interior is almost ready.All i have to do is to make belts and install a rollcage.And i placed the decals onto seats and dashboard.They have some mistakes,but i am very pleased,because they were basicly my first decals!
Pictures:
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/3037/peugeot052wj0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/3796/peugeot058ty4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/6131/peugeot055gb3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

More updates coming soon!
Cheerz!
Eero

rallymaster
03-23-2007, 04:47 PM
:yikes:
Congratulations, it's really becoming a nice model !
once more, hey guys, it was the heller kit ! :grinyes: :naughty: :grinyes:


keep up updating ! :wink:

Phil

anopanjo
03-23-2007, 11:24 PM
yEAH I GIVE HIM THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT, HELLER KITS ARE SHOCKING! Oh crap that was in caps! nvm! I had the 1/24 ev07 which is the worst looking kit!

Eero15
04-03-2007, 07:48 AM
Hello!
Update!
The interior is finished.I am very pleased with it.I scratchbuilded all the belts and brackets.Brackets are from metal sheet.
And also i widened the wheel arches.But no pictures about that.
Pictures here:
http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/6293/peugeot063oc5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/9387/peugeot064ki2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/8979/peugeot066ut0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/1233/peugeot068tj7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Tell me what you think!
More updates soon!

Eero

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