Marijuana - Pros vs. Cons

What are the pros and cons with Marijuana?

I want all kinds except the ones based on moral influence; I wont take a "It's just wrong" or "It's a drug, drugs are bad" or something like "chill and take a joint".

I personally don't have any experience with the drug itself. Don't know anybody who does, nor have I seen the drug in real life.

Pros
-Treats glacoma patients
-Gets you high

Cons
-Illeagal
-Causes cancer
-Costs money
-Costs even more money after you eat all of the food in your house.
-Leads into abusing other drugs

Pros
-Treats glacoma patients
-Gets you high

Cons
-Illeagal
-Causes cancer
-Costs money
-Costs even more money after you eat all of the food in your house.
-Leads into abusing other drugs

I'll agree with you, however, it is not scientifically proven to cause cancer.

I used to do it a lot for two years, but then it started to make me paranoid, so I stopped. Plus I went to college and I had to move on with my life.

My girlfriend uses it normally. Shes is ranked 4 in her class and is in all AP classes, so I dont think it has many damaging effects on the brain...if any at all.

I see more of a trend in males that use it and it seems they lose a lot of motivation/depend on it.

However, it has a different effect on everyone.

I also think it is less dangerous than alcohol and people shouldnt go to jail when caught with such a small amount.

I'll agree with you, however, it is not scientifically proven to cause cancer.

Are you sure? 'Cause they spent a lot of time in my health class establishing that marijuana causes cancer in the jaw/mouth.

I have smoked it occasionally. Maybe 10 whole times in my life. I would argue that I would rather have someone who just smoked it behind the wheel over someone who is drunk. But, both impair judgement and reaction time and neither are safe in that situation.
I, personally would say that its not a gateway drug (to me anyways) in that I have never really wanted to try anything else after trying weed.
It does kill brain cells because brain cells need oxygen, and whenever you deprive them of oxygen (no matter what you are inhaling), brain cells suffer.
I have seen people 'smoke themselves retarted' as I like to say, because all they do is smoke weed everyday, and it takes a toll on them over time. I'm not a doctor, nor even close to a med student, just my opinion.

Its illegal for a reason...

Pros
-Treats glacoma patients
-Gets you high

Cons
-Illeagal
-Causes cancer
-Costs money
-Costs even more money after you eat all of the food in your house.
-Leads into abusing other drugs


Sorry, but this gateway drug thing is a load of bullshit. If people want to try harder drugs they will, they just usually end up using weed first because it's the easiest thing to get your hands on.

Weed is far less socially destructive than alcohol. How many people smoke a joint then go and beat up their kids, or get into fights, or make asses of themselves or whatever?

I'd rather be around a bunch of people who are high (on weed, E, etc) than a bunch of drunken twats.

I smoke the sweet chiba as I see fit. Gateway drug nonsense is ridiculous. And as Toks said, its not as harmful as alcohol can be. Only bad thing about it is that your tolerance can build quickly so you gotta smoke more or find better stuff (I prefer both :wink:) But as an occasional recreational thing there's little to worry about.

However, for those that do smoke, and especially often, watch what you roll up in if you're using blunts. Some of the colored, and flavored leaves are harmful. Not all but a few.

Well. I used to smoke the texas tea habitually, then i stopped. Now i dont smoke for months at a time, usually someone will hold a j in front of my face at a party and i cant say no :D

The thing is, if you're a habitual reefer, it does tend to make you lose motivation (esp in males it seems). I know this from experience. The good part is, the addiction is only mental, not physical such as a nicotine, caffeine or alcohol addiction. Which means anyone with even the tiniest shred of willpower can give up the bhang if they wanted to.

So. I think it should be legalized, and used IN MODERATION!

Yea, Gateway drug = BS. If I wanted to get into some hard drugs, I could do that without taking weed first. I know a few who did other drugs way before weed, I dont see any thing as a gateway drug.

Another question then;

Should cigarretes and Alcohol be considered more dangerous (overall, any dangers)?

As the Canadian Farmers are getting rich growing Hemp...which is then sold in the U.S. as everything you can imagine...like the press particle board in most of our car doors...but American Farmers can't grow Hemp because it looks like Maryjane. That sucks. War on Drugs is Create A Job government hoax. Look how many jobs would be gone and prision's...which are big money too if MJ was legal. What would all those agencies do with themselves. Its been used as medicine for centuries...was only made illegal in 1937.

I'm going to only speak for myself.

Personal pros:
~Feels good (expansion/different perspective of thought)
~Social activity among other users

Personal cons:
~rare cases of paranoia in large public situations.
~short term memory loss


as for your second question,
Alcohol, if abused, could be more dangerous, and personally i think cigarettes are far more dangerous... atleast both in terms of health.

Its used for my relaxation after a long week of work.
Or when I am reading or researching. It enhances my visions and thoughts. I am not a lazy ass pot smoker who sits on his couch with his friends eating Dominos. Those I feel are the two extremes, one of which I don't visit.

Ironically, I've been wanting to smoke again for awhile. I just haven't in almost a year, but I wouldn't mind doing it again. I think I need to find some bud.

Are you sure? 'Cause they spent a lot of time in my health class establishing that marijuana causes cancer in the jaw/mouth.
So can Sweet n Low, smog, water, EVERYTHING causes cancer. You can't believe everything they teach you in a class like Health. A lot of the stuff is politically driven with few facts to back it up.

The con is that it's illegal and it became illegal because the white man "believed" it was making all the blacks go crazy. Somewhere along those lines, I read and saw a few specials about it a few years back. One on PBS was amazing.

The fact of the matter is there is no factual basis for it to be illegal. The PBS documentary was namely about the fact that there have been no deaths linked directly to marijuana. Zero, none, nada.

And anyone who just wastes away because they're high would be doing the same thing not high. And those people are always on other drugs. Namely prescription pills.

Oh, and it's addiction is only mental, not physical. I haven't smoked since June of '06.

The con is that it's illegal and it became illegal because the white man "believed" it was making all the blacks go crazy. Somewhere along those lines, I read and saw a few specials about it a few years back. One on PBS was amazing.
Something like that, but I thought it was set up to punish the Mexicans.

In any case, it was outlawed in a roundabout way, and then criminalized afterwards. It's not like it's good for you, but it's no where near as bad as the US Government wants you to believe.

The only thing I hate is that it can be detected in your system long after you did it. Unlike cocaine, heroin, or meth (or anything else like that), marijuana is fat-soluable and lingers for long amounts of time.

Pros - everything listed in this thread.

Cons - the only con I can think of as far as marijuana's impact on society: Many DEA and other law enforcement officials have lost their lives at the hands of the criminals who smuggle weed from South American countries. Not so much from other countries but the South American cartels are pretty damn violent. And this problem would be avoided if marijuana were legalized. But if it were legalized it would be regulated by the government, meaning it would become ridiculously expensive and the quality of the ganja would be crap.

oh well, keep it illegal, i dont want to give up my super weed!

I don't buy arguments that say that alcohol is just as bad. People use marijuana explicitly for the purpose of changing their state of consciousness; this is not necessarily the case with alcohol. There is an inherantly different purpose behind using marijuana and drinking alcohol. Believe it or not, but people drink beer just because they like beer, not to get drunk. People don't smoke pot just because they like the smell.

well, i drink to get drunk, and i dont care for the taste....

I don't buy arguments that say that alcohol is just as bad.
People say that because of the effects of being drunk, not because of their reasons for drinking. You never hear about some someone smoking pot all night then beating up his wife or doing anything violent. It's always some drunk guy that beats his wife then tries to resist the cops that arrest him.

or plows through an intersection and kills a family....

I'll plead the 5th .... :lol:

Weed doesnt cause any more cancer then anything else around.
If you smoke anything for years then you will probly have some associated disease like emphysema , broncitus etc etc.

And if you are going to smoke weed then it might as well be damn good weed, which isnt cheap(from what I hear).

I believe the real reason weed isnt legal is because thier is no way to measure an individuals "actual" intoxication.
It works differently in everyone.

When I used to smoke, years ago, it motivated me.
Most people period get lazy when on any type of drugs :lol:

People say that because of the effects of being drunk, not because of their reasons for drinking. You never hear about some someone smoking pot all night then beating up his wife or doing anything violent. It's always some drunk guy that beats his wife then tries to resist the cops that arrest him.

Let me see if I reword what I wanted to say more clearly-

Anything that is specifically designed to change your state of consciousness is bad for society (with obvious exceptions for sleeping pills and other proven medical drugs). Marijuana is bad because it falls into this category. Its purpose is to your state of consciousness. The purpose of beer is to be drank.

Beer, like any number of other products can be abused (getting drunk), but abuse of a substance is not the same as normal use. It is completely viable to drink beer and not get drunk. It is a normal practice. Nobody smokes marijuana without the intent of getting high.

I would argue that instead of legalizing marijuana because alcohol is bad too, we should illegalize drunkeness (which many people have done).

well, i drink to get drunk, and i dont care for the taste....

You are a perfect example of someone abusing alcohol. You are not using it as it was intended.

Anything that is specifically designed to change your state of consciousness is bad for society (with obvious exceptions for sleeping pills and other proven medical drugs). Marijuana is bad because it falls into this category. Its purpose is to your state of consciousness. The purpose of beer is to be drank.

Beer, like any number of other products can be abused (getting drunk), but abuse of a substance is not the same as normal use. It is completely viable to drink beer and not get drunk. It is a normal practice. Nobody smokes marijuana without the intent of getting high.


I would disagree with that.
That is exactly why the goverenment dosent allow this illegal substances, because they give the user a self awareness and an "opinion" that will ususally be against them and thier ideals.

What do you think antidepresants are?
Drugs used to change a persons conscience perspective on life, and gives them motivation to change.

IMO i think any and all manufatured drugs should be illegal.
That includes alcohol.
Its "Man made" just like meth or heroin.

And the purpose alcohol is to Get Drunk!

I dont think anything has ever screwed me up more then a fifth of Jim Beam :bloated: :puke:

I would disagree with that.
That is exactly why the goverenment dosent allow this illegal substances, because they give the user a self awareness and an "opinion" that will ususally be against them and thier ideals.

Do you really think that the government is afraid of a great stoner uprising? Isn't it a bit more likely that they are more concerned for safety?

What do you think antidepresants are?
Drugs used to change a persons conscience perspective on life, and gives them motivation to change.

Yes, but antidepresants are used for people with a real chemical imbalance. They attempt to make people more normal, not less.

IMO i think any and all manufatured drugs should be illegal.
That includes alcohol.
Its "Man made" just like meth or heroin.

Even penicillin? Drugs are not inherently bad, there are just some bad ones, and ones that should be used in certain situations. Being man-made isn't inherently bad either.

And the purpose alcohol is to Get Drunk!


Ever been to Germany, Italy, or France? They manage to drink alcoholic beverages all the time without getting drunk.

Pros:
Can be taxed.
Can be cleaned, treated, and packaged at a plant.
Legalizing it would probably be the first good step towards winning the war on drugs.
People aren't as bad when they're high as they are when they're drunk.

Cons:
Same as drunk people, get high and behind the wheel, bad news.
Smoke going into your lungs is never a good thing, see cigerettes.

Ok DinanM3_S2,
Maybe the lazy stoners wont over throw the govrnt.
But anarchy is only two tokes away :D

On the antidepressants thats all a guessing game.
I've read way to many articles in Jama, they might as well be doing good coke!
Thier is no measureable benifits from these prescription drugs.

Not all man made drugs are bad, just the one that get you off. :grinyes:
And antibiotics are getting out of hand too.
Every year diferent and stronger ones are needed to fight the same strain diferent form :rolleyes:

So I'm not saying "stop taking your meds" you mentally challenged individuals.

I think Muscletang Hit on a few pro's for all ye smot pokers. :D

Hey thier is a hemp factory in Colorado that makes cloths and maybe paper :dunno:
Hemp oil in the deep frier ?

Oh and no I havent be overseas, but they start drinking at like 8 years old or something dont they ?

On the antidepressants thats all a guessing game.
I've read way to many articles in Jama, they might as well be doing good coke!
Thier is no measureable benifits from these prescription drugs.

As someone that suffers from clinical depression, I can tell you that antidepressants DO help wether or not you say there' s a measurable benefit.

I'm sorry but I don't see any cons for smoking marijuana except for the fact that there is never enough.

You'd have to smoke a helluvalot of weed to black out whereas it can happen with minimal amounts of liquor and beer (alchohol).

Also, I don't think marijuana impairs driving or operating machinery. Sometimes I think it actually helps. However, paranoia can be a symptom and that can cause issues.

Cottom mouth and mild short term memory loss seem like rather inconsequential side effects as oppose to say the side effects of other "conscious altering" drugs. In fact, I think it's probably a lot safer to smoke some serious KB than take a teaspoon full of Nyquil and go driving.

It really is amazing how many people are so against smoking weed when it is virtually harmless. I'm not talking about the behavior of drug lords, but the actual substance.

I've always felt wonderful when smoking. When drinking I normally feel like shit. This is just my .02 which doesn't mean anything anyway...

Let me see if I reword what I wanted to say more clearly-

Anything that is specifically designed to change your state of consciousness is bad for society (with obvious exceptions for sleeping pills and other proven medical drugs). Marijuana is bad because it falls into this category. Its purpose is to your state of consciousness. The purpose of beer is to be drank.

Marijuana isn't specifically designed to do anything. It is a plant. No one designed it, it just grows. It is used to make ropes and other hemp related items. I think Woody Harrelson also has a home and several suits made from the stuff (j/k). It is a painkiller and a muscle relaxant - that's why doctors can prescribe it as a treatment. The side effects of euphoria and relaxation are the reason people abuse it.

By the same token, regardless of the reason WHY beer exists, the side effects of beer are the reason people abuse it, and those side effects are much worse than those of marijuana.

But you're preaching to the choir here, we aren't trying to make alchohol illegal. We are just asking why alcohol, which has caused so many deaths either by traffic accident or domestic violence, is considered more socially acceptable than weed, which just makes you sit on your couch and watch tv or listen to cd's.

I wanna know who came to the realization that you can smoke this plant and 'feel good' (subjective). I wonder how many plants that person inhaled before finding it. Just something weird to think about.

Pros:

1:It enhances peoples moods, who would otherwise have an attitude problem. Some TENSE people DO need to chill out and smoke a joint. But some people are already so relaxed a big fat doob would shut them down completely other than eating and breathing.
2: It can be considered a type of "pain reliever". For instance, a person with a high stress job sometimes suffers from stress headaches, ect. Sometimes a lefty a day keeps the doctor away, depending on what you suffer from medically.
3:Its NOT as dangerous as pills, and this has been proven over a LONG period of time. How many times have i see the commercials, "try this new pill, its awsome". Then a year later a lawyer on tv comes on and says " did you take this pill and now your dying? call me for a free consultation".

cons:
1: munchies and paranoia.
2: Extended use of pot makes you forget stuff. If you learned it while you was high, you have to be high to remember what it was.
3: Idiots. People acting stupid on weed is why its frowned upon so much. Imagine everybody in the world high all at once. It would be total chaos. All the food would be gone and nothing would get done.
4: Addiction. Its bad to let ANYTHING control you. Its against the better interest of a "would be" productive society to have slackers with no motivation other than getting out to find a sack of weed.
5: Pot-heads who dont have any weed to smoke tend to be dickheads. Especially those who are truely an addict.
6: If it were legal we wouldnt have any room to grow corn or wheat. Farmers would all be growing pot cause its value.

Weed should be illegal... I know some people who should smoke weed i believe it would help them and a doctor should be able to write them a perscription for it. But on the other hand, Some people should not smoke weed. Like an already half-assed worker at jiffy lube putting on some brakes for instance.

well, this isnt even worth arguing about, its not gonna change a thing... so ill go back to smoking daily and staying out of trouble, and you go back to drinking beer....... done deal

Dude if any of you are getting paranoid off smoking then find better stuff...I have not felt that way in a longggggggggg time.

i get paranoid here and there, but thats just after post tramatic stress after a horrible car accident, only when i drive high as hell. before that, no paranoia

Im talking about the "did i leave the oven on" paranoid. Not "the aliens have landed" paranoid.

haha, never was paranoid about that shit, more paranoid that ill run out of koolaid....

What about worrying "i hope they cant tell im high... hehe. Get out the visene and shake your jacket to rid the smell of the pot smoke. "i better smoke a cigarette before i go in they might smell the bud."

Ever had a person like a co-worker look at you and say "are you high?". You think to yourself aww shit. Then later you find out they smoke also and like to play cards.

I think the key here is to not go to work high. I don't. It's my number one rule. I did occasionally when I worked for a university but that was like being in a pretend world.

I pretty much smoke everyday. It is like you said. Some people need it for stress headaches and attitude. Being obsessive, neurotic and diabetic is tough enough. So at the end of the day, I go to the bakery where everything is peachy perfect.

Funny about having to be high to remember what you learned while being high. I've never had that problem... haha.

never had that problem either about remembering stuff ive learned high, and i dont go to work high either. thats my number one rule. and i think thinking everyone else knows im high is also what makes me nervous. i hate walking into a grocery store blazed, the lights are just too damn bright! same with school back in the day....

What about worrying "i hope they cant tell im high... hehe. Get out the visene and shake your jacket to rid the smell of the pot smoke. "i better smoke a cigarette before i go in they might smell the bud."

Ever had a person like a co-worker look at you and say "are you high?". You think to yourself aww shit. Then later you find out they smoke also and like to play cards.

Never went to work high, never will...2 different worlds my personal life and my job..Would you go to work drunk of course not.

I'd rather smell like cheeba then stogz any day.

especially the sweet sweet smellin cheeva! actually it smells like a dead skunk, which makes me wanna get high everytime i smell a damn skunk....haha

I would dabble in some smokery when I was doing BS data entry and customer service jobs. But I never have/will go into my 9 to 5 blazed.

Would you go to work drunk of course not.

Maybe if you were an airline pilot...

i guess i'll give my opinion
pros:
makes you feel nice, everything is enhanced, can relieve stress, etc

cons:
can be addictive
if smoked, it can cause cancer
can be dangerous to drive when high
can have a bit of a hangover of sorts

so, i really enjoy smoking weed. i smoke every once in a while, a few times a month at most. i've got some friends who smoke weed and don't mind sharing so i never buy, it stops me from getting addicted or getting into the habbit. i have a few friends who are addicted to marijuana, i don't want to get that way, it's pretty sad.

i think it should be legalized in canada because of a few things:
1) so many people smoke and grow it nowadays that it's going to be nearly impossible to stop it.
2) it's not as harmful to life or families as alcohol abuse. i don't care what alcohol was "meant" for, when people abuse it, they're more likely to be harmful to their families and to society in general than a stoner. I abuse alcohol on occasion (i use abuse because i get drunk, it is substance abuse but it's abuse in moderation, somewhat of an oxymoron but i don't get drunk often) and i use marijuana on occasion, i know i'm more likely to do something harmful when i'm drunk (ie get into a fight, crash a car, fall down and hurt myself).
3) it's not as harmful to your body as some other drugs. although there is an increased risk of cancer when you smoke it, there are other ways to get the THC into your body (through eating it, baking, and vaporizers. vaps only get THC and water out and you don't get any of the soot, tar, smoke, etc in your lungs. THC itself is not a known carcinogen.
4) it can be a good way to collect taxes. i don't think it'll get more expensive and lower quality if it gets legalized because if that happens, nobody will buy the legal stuff and they'll only buy the home grown stuff that's already around. companies will be forced to provide cheap, high quality green, or at least stuff that's up to market standards. there's no reason for quality to go down because basic economics say that the industry will fail if it can't compete with the stuff that's already out there in terms of quality and price.

Pros:

1:It enhances peoples moods, who would otherwise have an attitude problem. Some TENSE people DO need to chill out and smoke a joint. But some people are already so relaxed a big fat doob would shut them down completely other than eating and breathing.
2: It can be considered a type of "pain reliever". For instance, a person with a high stress job sometimes suffers from stress headaches, ect. Sometimes a lefty a day keeps the doctor away, depending on what you suffer from medically.
3:Its NOT as dangerous as pills, and this has been proven over a LONG period of time. How many times have i see the commercials, "try this new pill, its awsome". Then a year later a lawyer on tv comes on and says " did you take this pill and now your dying? call me for a free consultation".

cons:
1: munchies and paranoia.
2: Extended use of pot makes you forget stuff. If you learned it while you was high, you have to be high to remember what it was.
3: Idiots. People acting stupid on weed is why its frowned upon so much. Imagine everybody in the world high all at once. It would be total chaos. All the food would be gone and nothing would get done.
4: Addiction. Its bad to let ANYTHING control you. Its against the better interest of a "would be" productive society to have slackers with no motivation other than getting out to find a sack of weed.
5: Pot-heads who dont have any weed to smoke tend to be dickheads. Especially those who are truely an addict.
6: If it were legal we wouldnt have any room to grow corn or wheat. Farmers would all be growing pot cause its value.

Weed should be illegal... I know some people who should smoke weed i believe it would help them and a doctor should be able to write them a perscription for it. But on the other hand, Some people should not smoke weed. Like an already half-assed worker at jiffy lube putting on some brakes for instance.
Half the shit you just listed as cons is b.s. I've never met pot heads who were dicks because they didn't have any. The idiots are the ones who approach anyone at a party asking to buy from. Those are the guys who have never amounted to anything at all. The munchies are easily ignored once you're use to the effects of marijuana. The same goes with paranoia, although some shit makes you more paranoid than another.

As I mentioned there is no PHYSICAL addiction as there is with herion and crack. It's all mental. When I was smoking all the time I only "craved" it while I was at school. Part of that was having to deal with a roommate who annoyed me, and it helped me battle my depression. When I was at my parents I never even thought about it. I could get it easily, but I never fiend.

To each his own, but there is still not one justifiable reason that anyone can give, ESPECIALLY, the govt. for it to be illegal. And the drug smugglers handle a lot more than weed, it just happens to be the scape goat for everything else.

As I mentioned there is no PHYSICAL addiction as there is with herion and crack. It's all mental. that's true but people CAN still get addicted and it CAN control their lives. whether it's physical or mental it's still an addiction.

i also agree with people who say the gateway drug business is bs. people who are going to do harder drugs would have done them anyways, sure they started with pot but that's because it's everywhere and very accessible. i'm sure if everyone did E, and if most people started doing E before they did anything else, they'd call E a gateway drug, but they don't, they start on mary jane because it's easy to grow, many many people grow it, and it doesn't have many harmful side-effects, all of these making it a very common drug.

If you work off the back of a trash truck whats it going to hurt if your high> are you not going to pick up trash right? What if you mow lawns, or work at burger king? It depends on what your job detail is. Certainly if i had a job where i had to think a bunch or if another persons safety was dependant on my job then no. But if i was a night stocker at wal-mart i might blaze one off before i clock in. When i was a dish washer a long time ago i would blaze up every day before work. Its what got me through. When i was a carpet cleaner, i smoked then too. I cant smoke weed anymore, but i dont really see anything wrong with people smoking it as long as they dont get stupid about it.


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"Half the shit you just listed as cons is b.s. I've never met pot heads who were dicks because they didn't have any. "

Really, i have. Thats actually a more often than not scenario.

"The idiots are the ones who approach anyone at a party asking to buy from. Those are the guys who have never amounted to anything at all."

Those arent the only ones.

"The munchies are easily ignored once you're use to the effects of marijuana. The same goes with paranoia, although some shit makes you more paranoid than another."

It all depends on your personality what the effects of any drug will be. If your have certain types of mental problems pot can either help or hurt.

"As I mentioned there is no PHYSICAL addiction as there is with herion and crack. It's all mental. "

You will notice the grasp the addiction has on you when you have to drag around an oxygen bottle with a hole in your neck, as you have another blunt hanging off the side of your mouth.


"When I was smoking all the time I only "craved" it while I was at school. Part of that was having to deal with a roommate who annoyed me, and it helped me battle my depression. When I was at my parents I never even thought about it. I could get it easily, but I never fiend. "

this shows people smoke out for different reasons.

"To each his own, but there is still not one justifiable reason that anyone can give, ESPECIALLY, the govt. for it to be illegal. And the drug smugglers handle a lot more than weed, it just happens to be the scape goat for everything else."

For the most part i agree. The problem is young adults who are rival drug dealers. They often get involved with guns ect and they dont care what they have to do to sell stuff in some cases.

What are the pros and cons with Marijuana?

I want all kinds except the ones based on moral influence; I wont take a "It's just wrong" or "It's a drug, drugs are bad" or something like "chill and take a joint".

I personally don't have any experience with the drug itself. Don't know anybody who does, nor have I seen the drug in real life.

Really hard to answer without bias. This drug took me down... way down. For me though, my life was already mislead and completely void of direction. While I used it way too much, it might also have been responsible for my lack of ambition to commit crime or be violent or whatever... while it is illegal and kind of destructive, it really actually helped keep me calm enough to work through my turmoil and come out of that awful time in my life.

One problem though mentioned in the second reply to this thread... paranoia. I was always way more paranoid when I smoked. I believe this lead to my one and only and super scary panic attacks.
Drugs like pot are ok to mess with once in a while... but they do cause some serious imbalances in normal folks... I no longer even dabble... not even a puff. I to had to get a life going, and drugs just don't fit that picture.

Pro's: makes you laugh a bit

Con's: it will fuck you up because your brain eventually says
"hey, I can stop producing those chemicals that makes me happy"

Con's: it will fuck you up because your brain eventually says
"hey, I can stop producing those chemicals that makes me happy"

No..Maybe If I did E everyday I will not have any serotonin build up, hate life and be depressed. But weed making you fall into a depression hole very unlikely. A depression hole from weed is linked to something else.

No..Maybe If I did E everyday I will not have any serotonin build up, hate life and be depressed. But weed making you fall into a depression hole very unlikely. A depression hole from weed is linked to something else.Its called burnout, I know plenty of people who have burnout from weed.

weed making you fall into a depression hole very unlikely.

Unlikely, but not totally out of the question. I will give a for instance.

If a person close to you dies and you smoke weed to help deal with the loss and pain instead of dealing with it up front yeah, the depression can last longer ie your "hole".

Some people smoke weed for fun but a deep dark truth is it can sometimes hold unresolved issues at bay speaking from a mental perspective, and once the weed has worn off the problem still remains. Depending on each situation will make the difference between what perceived emotion results from each circumstance. Weed shielding you from dealing with these situations on a normal level can cause them to build up like sludge to later be released as a feeling of insurmountability thus causing eventual depression, or feeling of hopelessness.

the only bad thing about weed is you lose sperm overtime if you smoke stems and leaves (my understanding dunno how true but that really sucks) and it's illegal. it may cause cancer, whoopdee freakin' doo, what doesn't these days? What really pisses me off about the subject is the government. Constitutionally, the government can't make drugs illegal, it's the state's responsibility. Still, they do and in some ways i guess they can since it's related to interstate commerce, which is Congress' responsibility, but for the most part it SHOULD be left to the states. If states were responsible, it would be a lot easier to "experiment" what effects legal recreational use of weed would have in our country. If it didn't work then a full illegal everywhere would be needed. Maybe it sounds bad but its better than legalizing it in all 50 states at the same time. Weed posession for recreational use up to a quarter ounce is legal in Denver CO under city law. Unfortunately, State/Federal law superseeds that. I've smoked weed for 5 years and i'm finally starting to cut down a lot (i didn't say quit) since i'm full time at college AND at work and i really do enjoy it. most of my encounters with the local police i was high and i've never been in trouble. Been behind the wheel many many MANY times while high, never wrecked, run a red light, never hit a kid leaving the drive thru like that stupid commercial, i still function. I sometimes go to work high, not really a problem. I work at a restaurant that's half-assed cooking (most food precooked) and i'm a cook and a supervisor, no problem still. if i was an accountant, then hell no. If i was a CEO, no way. If I drove a bus for a living, eh, maybe. You get the idea. It doesn't lead to other drugs, i see no need to do a line of coke or stick a needle in my arm after 5 years of sweet cheeba in my life. the only reason i still wanna smoke is cuz there's not a lot to do in my town and my life is pretty much work work work so it definitely feels good. Once i finish college here and leave town i will quit since i'm stepping up in life. It should be legal as it's a great source of income for the gov't by way of taxes (they would tax the shit out of it admit it) and i don't see a problem with this really. Good for the economy. Only drug close to natural as it's grown on God's green earth. "Should" already be 50 state legal for medicinal purposes too, but it isn't. And sorry to get off subject, but drink in moderation for those drunks. Humans can only process a certain amount of alcohol in a 24 hour period and exceeding that clogs the liver and sends dirty blood through the system, giving you the "drunk" feeling you like so much. That's why you see "drink responsibly!" Thanks for lettin' me speak (or type).:thumbsup:

Unlikely, but not totally out of the question. I will give a for instance.

If a person close to you dies and you smoke weed to help deal with the loss and pain instead of dealing with it up front yeah, the depression can last longer ie your "hole".

Some people smoke weed for fun but a deep dark truth is it can sometimes hold unresolved issues at bay speaking from a mental perspective, and once the weed has worn off the problem still remains. Depending on each situation will make the difference between what perceived emotion results from each circumstance. Weed shielding you from dealing with these situations on a normal level can cause them to build up like sludge to later be released as a feeling of insurmountability thus causing eventual depression, or feeling of hopelessness.


Using weed as a scapegoat can cause problems yes. This goes for any drug, as well as drinking. So I would not say a con of weed is depression. Just to vague of a statement with no evidence to back it up...As for being a burnout..Once again not a con, thats due to the incompetence of the person using the drug. It seems like a lot of you are making up these scenarios that just don't appear from smoking....You have to make these problems occur, and most likely the people suffering from these problems have issues to begin with or are just weak individuals and shouldn't be smoking in the first place.

Study nerve synapse. If you dont think weed can affect you physically, think again.

Your nerves transmit signals, and the reaction to those signals are slowed from weed it causes the space between the synapse to be greater. And with habitual use the synapses stay farther apart for ever, therby permanently altering your reaction time, including acting normally in mentally stressful situations.


Also IAN SZGATTI is correct. It makes your body excrete all the "happy" hormones called endorphins all at once, and you only make a certain amount at any given time. SO if you get high and use all those happy hormones, it CAN lead to mood swings and severe depression. If you dont believe it ask a psychiatric ward at a mental institution, because they admit people just because over use of weed.

It also can permanently affect your short term memory. This is also a proven physical affect of over-use of weed.

Also IAN SZGATTI is correct. It makes your body excrete all the "happy" hormones called endorphins all at once, and you only make a certain amount at any given time. SO if you get high and use all those happy hormones, it CAN lead to mood swings and severe depression. If you dont believe it ask a psychiatric ward at a mental institution, because they admit people just because over use of weed.

It also can permanently affect your short term memory. This is also a proven physical affect of over-use of weed.

well put... I'd also like to add something else here.

In space, a hurtling object does not follow a direct path through gravitational pulls. The object is likely to follow the path of least resistance. It happens that everything around us acts on the same principals. The brain is no exception. The brain will stop making chemicals if they are introduced by an outside source because it is actually more efficient to do so.
The first link refers to geodesics, and the second is further proof that brain chemistry can be altered by even marijuana. I still don't know why people try to justify it's use, other than because they don't truley understand how to live without a buzz.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Path_of_least_resistance

http://help4teachers.com/brainondrugs.htm

Good points Ian, but I have to say for some people such as my self, it can help with depression. I had/have battled with depression and suicidal tendencies since high school(long before I smoked). Weed actually helped me overcome this. I haven't been as depressed now as I was before I began using.

Good points Ian, but I have to say for some people such as my self, it can help with depression. I had/have battled with depression and suicidal tendencies since high school(long before I smoked). Weed actually helped me overcome this. I haven't been as depressed now as I was before I began using.

That is the type thing that legal weed might help with. Certain people with certain personalities get different effects from pot. Some people smoke it and they get creative and orderly. Some people smoked it, got hooked up on it quick, and ended up at the funny farm. Seems strange but it happens.