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Marijuana - Pros vs. Cons


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Ian Szgatti
02-19-2007, 01:04 AM
Good points Ian, but I have to say for some people such as my self, it can help with depression. I had/have battled with depression and suicidal tendencies since high school(long before I smoked). Weed actually helped me overcome this. I haven't been as depressed now as I was before I began using.

I hear you. I remember one time I stole a car, somebodies garden hose, and sat in that car with a few fatties and the hose going from the exhaust pipe into the window. I was fifteen.

You know, I used to smoke for the same reasons. It might have helped me sit in one place, but it did nothing to help me actually find out why I was depressed in the first place.
Somewhere, there is a source of stimuli capable of awakening the parts of your brain that give you satisfaction. It is most unfortunate that we don't all find that source. It's different for everyone.
For me, it was an automotive technology course at a community college. Before that I had literally nothing to use as a base to say, "this is who I am and what I do". All I knew was I was high... unemployed usually, and becoming more and more nervous about 'what' I was becoming.
Often depressed people need that absent sence of controll and order, but with automotives, your dealing with a machine that acts predictably according to your actions. For me that it very satisfying, diagnosing, repairing, and telling a customer that they'll be safe now... that and building a few hundered horsepower under my ass.

This post is about to become very interesting as I'll lay it out here that my source of depression was a very poor self-image. Having grown up in City run facilities, I was subjected to abuse, drugs, prostitution, homelessness, all by the age of 16.
It's a cruel world, and if we're not careful, it will always appear cruel. While it might be hard to accept, the best method in curing our kind of depression is to find the right activity, and taking it seriously. Also, being the kind of friend to people that a friend would love to have. It's knowing that you may never be the best... the best looking, the best thinker, the best lover... but you will always be the best at making your own choices.

Then again, everything is relative. Who am I to say drugs are not the answer. I just feel that for me, returning to drugs would be an admission of weakness. I cannot possibly let my past beat me.

BrodyP
02-19-2007, 07:13 AM
Some people smoke it and they get creative and orderly.

My point..I have never known anyone or heard of anyone, or been in a scenario that warranted the extreme effects you both mention. Two far and few in between.

Bambie
02-19-2007, 09:46 AM
any kind of drugs are bad!!! People think it helps with depression, well it may for the time you smoke it, but your just covering up the depression its just what my uncle did until he dug his own grave and overdosed on drugs. Rather than deal with his problems sober..to me anyone who does drugs to make them happier or feel better is just a chicken sh*t and cant face the reality of life.There are alternatives for depression. But hey to each there own

ghostrx7
02-19-2007, 10:11 AM
drugs are bad, mmmmmmkay.

turtlecrxsi
02-19-2007, 10:19 AM
*snorts*... what did she say? LOL j/k

turtlecrxsi
02-19-2007, 10:34 AM
SO if you get high and use all those happy hormones, it CAN lead to mood swings and severe depression. If you dont believe it ask a psychiatric ward at a mental institution, because they admit people just because over use of weed.

This is interesting. But I think other ailments/disorders may be what is causing these symptoms. See, I'm one of these people that has mood swings. The disorder is blood/sugar control or type-2 diabetes. The diabetes was diagnosed just prior to my turning 30 and quitting smoking cigarettes. Of course, my diet and eating habits were terrible so naturally this along with genetics has caused this disorder. Now, the reason I get moody now is if I go too long without eating something. I eat small meals every couple of hours during the day. I have a long commute home and by the time I cook supper or decide where I'd like to go eat I can be quite irritable. Usually, I smoke and relax and then eat and then smoke again. The pent up frustration from lack of sugar in my body is what causes the mental mood swings. The physical symptoms I experience are usually gas related due to the 1500mg of Metformin ER I have to take daily. Basically, I'm just stating a personal situation but it could very well be different for others. I'm just offering that these people being admitted for psychiatric reasons may actually have neurological or other physical disorders. BTW, I have an epileptic brother and an epileptic sister. My other sister has MS. And my other brother is in remission from leukemia and also has type-2 diabetes. So, in conclusion, I'm going to smoke all the weed I can before my time is done.

hotrod_chevyz
02-19-2007, 11:25 AM
drugs are bad, mmmmmmkay.

"Allright children, quiet down, quiet down. Dont do drugs, drugs are just bayad":smokin:

"im a saaaad panda"....

This topic has turned out most interesting. Its unfortunate to hear some of the things this thread has brought out.

I would also like to point out a earlier part of the thread. I have heard before that smoking weed can cause you to forget. I have heard before smoking weed can cause you to forget. I would like to point this out from a earlier part of the thread. I forget who said it.:icon16:

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I'm just offering that these people being admitted for psychiatric reasons may actually have neurological or other physical disorders.



I agree. A brain that functions properly without drugs would likely suffer from a mild munchie attack from some good greenage, and thats about it other than laughing or whatever gift each individual recieves from smoking. BUT people that have mental disorders such as paranoid schizophrenia, they might get visited by a voice telling them to kill everybody.

See, crazy people dont know they are crazy. And a lot of people are crazy and dont even see it. They are blind to the fact they appear to others a little off the rocker.

Wouldnt that be some shit to say "man that last bag was so good, one of my friends is in the nut ward, the other is in icu , straight up had a heart attack".

Oz
02-19-2007, 05:28 PM
DRUGS ARE NOT THE ANSWER!!!!!









Drugs are the question.








The answer is Yes.

nismogt_rfreak
02-19-2007, 06:43 PM
Drugs are the question.








The answer is Yes.

Except for meth. Meth is always a no no.

MetalHeadZaid
02-21-2007, 12:16 AM
There's not really much i need to say about the pros. weed is just generally entertaining.

so, cons...

dont like driving while high.
dont like going to school/work while high.
dont like parties while high.
dont like physical activities while high.
obviously the health risks.
illegal.
sometimes need to deal with some shady people to get it, not fun.
makes simple tasks much more difficult and annoying for me.
makes it alot harder to hold an in depth conversation without mixing up a few words.
more of a gateway to cigarettes instead of harder drugs, but still a con.
can start spending plenty of money on it.
some loss of short term memory.
ect ect ect ect.

who cares :ylsuper::gives::sleep::smokin::smokin::smokin::sm okin::smokin:

00accord44
02-21-2007, 12:32 PM
I think you know you've developed a weed problem when you can't stop smoking even the worst chiba. I haven't been able to get any good stuff in Tallahassee since I came back so I'm about to stop smoking til my friend lays this "package" on me from home. April is gonna be a great month :smokin:

ghostrx7
02-21-2007, 03:28 PM
maybe ill stop by on my way from atl, to fla. its on the way and my shit is primo....

beef_bourito
02-21-2007, 03:43 PM
does anyone find that after a weekend of heavy drinking and smoking alot of weed you go on a low? that's happened with me the last two weekends of smoking and drinking, but the first weekend i did it i didn't drink alot but i smoked alot of weed. i find it hard to be motivated to do anything for a few days after, although it could also be the hell week before that tired me out mentally and physically, i had 2 midterms, 3 tests, a practical exam, assignment, and a quiz.

ghostrx7
02-21-2007, 03:50 PM
i only smoke after im done drinking, and to recover from a hangover. i think the lack of energy is from the alchohol....

Gohan Ryu
02-21-2007, 04:32 PM
Does anyone here smoke pot just because you enjoy smoking pot? I mean...I'm not depressed, suicidal, angry or anything...I just smoke pot because it makes good times with my friends even better. It makes movies, books, music...hell it even makes commercials more interesting...

I don't have memory problems, I'm not burned out. Just don't smoke more than ounce a night and you'll be ok:smokin: .

beef_bourito
02-21-2007, 04:49 PM
i smoke it just for fun, but i don't smoke it often. sometimes i'll go on a few days straight but other times i'll be off it for over a month. it all depends on my friends.

poormillionaire2
02-21-2007, 04:55 PM
I want to smoke. I haven't for about 10 months. And I never did it that much anyways, maybe 10 times my entire life. But I enjoyed it when I did.

Steel
04-04-2007, 07:27 PM
Does anyone here smoke pot just because you enjoy smoking pot? I mean...I'm not depressed, suicidal, angry or anything...I just smoke pot because it makes good times with my friends even better. It makes movies, books, music...hell it even makes commercials more interesting...

I don't have memory problems, I'm not burned out. Just don't smoke more than ounce a night and you'll be ok:smokin: .

Pretty much. Like i said before, I used to be a pot head. Dropped out of school and learned quick. Stopped. Now i smoke every now and again. Pretty rarely during the school year because i need to focus on school..

What *I* like to do, is drive out to this mountain top that overlooks the valley that i used to live in. I'll go by myself or with a close friend. What's nice is that I feel safe up there because its tough to get up the mountain pass (i know the code for the gate, its a tower site), and hikers will not usually bother you if they smell the skunk. I'll smoke a skinny white boy to myself (i can and do cut a 20 bag into 5 j's. That's the perfect amount for me, but for a lot of people, not enough <shrug>) I'll bring two if I go with someone who smokes. And there i sit, puff and watch the sun set. It's a seldom occasion so i enjoy it. It gives me a chance to think about stuff and just relax and make goofy jokes or have deep philisophical discussions for a couple hours. Then the sun sets, the bhang wears off, and i leave. I really don't see a problem with it. I'll still be a *little* high when i leave, but it makes a drive enjoyable where i can just cruise. I hate being blazed and driving though, i'm paranoid as all fuck. Actually, i always get paranoid as all fuck unless I'm in the middle of the woods or something like that, where I know where I'm 'safe'. I got busted by the fuzz before so...

Anyway, I'm looking forward to getting my new bike, because then the cruise after my mountain adventures will be much more fun. I'm going to buy myself an eighth for this summer, and I bet you it'll last all summer too. Like I said, everything in moderation. I'll have nary the time to be smoking, except for MAYBE some weekends, so, its good that way. A nice self-regulating system.

And to whoever said that people dont drink beer for the alcohol is a fool. Of course I drink beer for the flavor (because i like GOOD beer, Newcastle FTMFW!) but a little alcohol inebreation is ok too. If you were right, everyone would be drinking O'Douls, and non-alcoholic beer and wine would be the rage. That's simply not true. Even 2 beers, 24 oz, effects everyone and starts to relax them. THATS why people drink. It tastes good and makes them feel good. To purposely get drunk is not alcohol abuse, its alcohol USE. To purposely get drunk on occasion is still not abuse. To purposely get drunk at every possible moment to get away from lifes problems is alcohol abuse. The same holds true for any mood altering drug, prescription or not. Back in ye olde college days, I really abused the texas tea to hide away from the fact that i had a very very broken heart. I know that now and will never fall into the same trap.

As i said before, my sentiment is that it should be legalized and used in moderation. My only worry is that people will not heed that last part.

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