NSX Just 2 expensive!!

Even Evos, when spent the amount of cash for the base car and mods, can beat an NSX. Honestly, the NSX is a 14 second car. I've seen Pulsars with mods beat that (at the 40k price for car and mods). That is just ridiculous. Honestly, the NSX needs a replacement - with steel body, more power (main improvements). Why pay so much on a car that doesn't offer as good an experience as other cars? Answer that, and I'd understand why an NSX is worth it. NSXs cant even be modded either - no room for more boost, turbocharging is expensive and no room for cooling (ancillaries, intercooler), and the realistic limit of the car when modified is 500hp while not spending a whole load of cash (lol, spend a lot on the car, and then a lot on mods).

The major limiting factor for the NSX was the gentlemens agreement. Honda wanted a 400hp car, but they could not have that because of that sad law, so Honda resorted to weight saving techniques - aluminium body, etc, to meet the performance levels of the 911 and 360. But that just increased the price with little benefits. Flawful thinking from the Product Design boffs at Honda. This image of the NSX being a rip-off, which it is, is going to stick to Honda/Acura.

If a company is going to make a supercar, or any car for that matter in fact, then they should make it properly and by tackling major compromises such as the 280hp law if it affects businesses, and they should concentrate on what will win the customer, and not on trying to meet performance in unjustified ways that are an obvious risk not worth taking (taking risks is worth it, as long as it is what the customer/market would want).

I can see it possible for Honda to make a new NSX that will be what the customer wants. It is a possible, feasible goal for Honda.

the thing about modding the NSX is this... people who spend that much on the car, are a little wary of changing its internals and this and that. God forbid you would screw something up. So modding isn't as much of an issue with the NSX as the supra because i think they would be more willing to take chances with modding a cheaper supra personally.

Agreed, pontiac.

If an when there is an NSX replacement, I am sure eventually Honda will up the power, with disregard to the stupid (and either way you look at it, it is stupid ) 280hp limit. Honda must realise that to improve a car's acceleration, and only acceleration, weight saving will only go so far. Honda will soon realise that they have stripped out so much of luxuries that they (Honda) will have only two options (any method will only go too far):

1) Up the power, as everything that makes up weight is a requirement, and this has to be done to get sales and be a market competitor (it is unfair for the NSX to be "rubbish" because of useless regulations. Once this is done, some luxuries may become an option to have (to include, as with the extra weight of this and extra power, performance may still be good).

2) Discontinue the NSX. Not much reasoning required for this...

Honda have done everything for improvements, apart from power.

yep, Honda has the technology, just needs more power to make more of an appearance. Plus, for all the weight saving techniques like getting rid of power steering and etc... The car is still only a bit lighter than 3000 pounds. If supra comes back with a v8 or v12 while being something around the price range of the NSX in a few years... which has been speculated, the NSX will be seen as little more than just a beautiful, rare car.

I own one. Yes they're expensive, but you can save money by buying an older one. I own a '91. I love it, but would also love to put a supercharger on it to get it up close to the 400hp mark. I'd put a supercharger on in a heartbeat at the same cost as the Integra ($3000), but comp tech whats three time that for basically the same thing.

Originally posted by puker_33
I own one. Yes they're expensive, but you can save money by buying an older one. I own a '91. I love it, but would also love to put a supercharger on it to get it up close to the 400hp mark. I'd put a supercharger on in a heartbeat at the same cost as the Integra ($3000), but comp tech whats three time that for basically the same thing.

I usually accept people's honesty... but in this case, im gona have to say "sure ya do." Of course i always stand corrected with the proper proof and all, but the fact that this supercar wasn't even mentioned in your profile while the integra was, i have to really wonder about if you are telling the truth.

Originally posted by pontiactrac


I usually accept people's honesty... but in this case, im gona have to say "sure ya do." Of course i always stand corrected with the proper proof and all, but the fact that this supercar wasn't even mentioned in your profile while the integra was, i have to really wonder about if you are telling the truth.




Actually your right i don't own one but that was my dad who got on under my name and started talking...if you would like me to prove it i could post some pics of it as soon as we get it out of storage for the winter untill then i don't care if you believe us or not because we do have one.

I dont know what any of you guys think about the NSX's LOOKS.....Some people prefer looks over performance (dont go saying they're idiots either), and the NSX definitely has $40 worth of looks alone. IMO, it looks better than anything that ever came out of Japan OR Germany.

Ok, I try staying away from arguements like this, but I have to make a few coments. I don't understand the arguement that the NSX is not worth what it cost. It's really all about what a buyer is willing to pay for a product that determines its price right? I think alot of people form opinions about the NSX without having driven one. I have owned 2 M3's, I've driven Vette's, TT Supra's, Turbo Civic's/Integs, etc. But the NSX is in my opinion a funner car to drive. It's fast, handles like it's on rails, gets lots of attention, its well built, and its a HONDA. It's an exotic car that can be driven everyday. Supra's are a dime a dozen as well as Vette's. No flames please, I have lots of respect for these cars. But those cars are just not for me.
I think it's the same with bikes. Why spend $16 grand on a Ducati when you can get a R1 or GXSR1000 for around $10 that would spank it in the zero to 60? I guess you would have to ride one before you can understand. :flash:
Again, these are just my opinions :)
Regards
Z

Originally posted by puker_33





Actually your right i don't own one but that was my dad who got on under my name and started talking...if you would like me to prove it i could post some pics of it as soon as we get it out of storage for the winter untill then i don't care if you believe us or not because we do have one.

Alright, since your dad wrote the post, you can't blame me for calling that a bit missleading then, since he wrote it under your name. I believe you now that it was your dad, no need for the proof.

Originally posted by NSX FoYoAss
Ok, I try staying away from arguements like this, but I have to make a few coments. I don't understand the arguement that the NSX is not worth what it cost. It's really all about what a buyer is willing to pay for a product that determines its price right? I think alot of people form opinions about the NSX without having driven one. I have owned 2 M3's, I've driven Vette's, TT Supra's, Turbo Civic's/Integs, etc. But the NSX is in my opinion a funner car to drive. It's fast, handles like it's on rails, gets lots of attention, its well built, and its a HONDA. It's an exotic car that can be driven everyday. Supra's are a dime a dozen as well as Vette's. No flames please, I have lots of respect for these cars. But those cars are just not for me.
I think it's the same with bikes. Why spend $16 grand on a Ducati when you can get a R1 or GXSR1000 for around $10 that would spank it in the zero to 60? I guess you would have to ride one before you can understand. :flash:
Again, these are just my opinions :)
Regards
Z

I understand that, and if you want to spend ur money on it, i perfectly respect that. We are just talking about it's value in terms of what it costs and how much u get out of it. And as far as it being able to be driven everyday, how do you figure that this is more true than other supercars? It gets the mileage about the same as a large V8, and costs around 800 for an oil change, then there are possible part breakage that are expensive as hell to repair, then there is the issue of insurance. I respect if your opinions perfectly, just giving my 02 on the car, i just think the price is a bit steep, im not busting on u or anything, at least you were polite about your opinion. Lots of people would call non NSX fans idiots and crap like that. But hey it's all good.

Originally posted by pontiactrac


Alright, since your dad wrote the post, you can't blame me for calling that a bit missleading then, since he wrote it under your name. I believe you now that it was your dad, no need for the proof.


I'll still post some pics soon just cuz its such a sweet lookin car.

Ok, some of these things that you have mentioned are not true, but commen misconceptions. Owning this car, let me tell you my experiences. You say you are talking about it's value in terms of what it costs and how much you get out of it right? I honestly believe I get alot out of my car. It's very rare, exotic and well built. I get thumbs up everywhere I go. Chicks ask for rides, school buses with kids hangout the window to look at my car, etc etc etc. My M3 didn't get this much attention. Even when I go out in my friends Porsche, we don't get this much attention.
Ok, now lets talk about driving it everyday. It is not true it gets about the same gas mileage as a large V8. I have owned a Mustang in the past, now that was a gas guzzler and it was always breaking down. I replaced almost everything in that car except for the engine(with was very strong).
$800 for an oil change!! :eek: I have no idea where you got that from. The NSX oil change cost as much as a Civic. You can buy OEM NSX oil filters from www.daliracing.com 10 @ $100, which is $10 bucks each. Add some Mobil1 synthetic oil and your good to go. My first oil change was at Jiffy Lube since I hadn't ordered the NSX oil filters yet. It was about $30 - $35 I believe.
About parts breaking down, it's not true that they are expensive. Some of the parts are about what other Acura Parts cost. But then there are some parts that cost an arm and a leg. But it's a Honda, I've never had a problem with this car, and neither did the previous owner who had kept all the records.
Ok, now insurance. I too thought I was gonna get raped on this, but I'm very happy with the price I got. I'm 22 single male, with one theft and one speeding ticket on my record. I pay $170 a month for full coverage, $500 ded. on both the NSX and my Integra. This is throu Allstate and I thinks its a great rate!! :alien2:
What other car is exotic and rare, that is like the NSX? You can buy a Viper(awesome car, maddddd power), but its a gas guzzler, not comfortable(from what I've heard), and expensive to maintane. Then there's the Vette C5(awesome car, I almost bought one) but those are everywhere. Plus they are not exotic and I hear they have lots of problems(no flames, just what I've heard from friends who have owned C4's/C5's). Then there are Porcshe's. Not exotic, but the TT is a beast. My friend works at a Porsche dealership and says they are crap. He see's them in the shop all the time. I would love to have one thou, but it's out of my range, way out of my range.
Trust me, I have alot of respect for all cars. We are all alike in that we love cars, or our cars right? :flash:
But I thought I would share some of my personal experiences. And from my experiences I've learned that this car is worth every penny. Plus lifes short, fuk it. :devil:
peace
Z


Originally posted by pontiactrac


I understand that, and if you want to spend ur money on it, i perfectly respect that. We are just talking about it's value in terms of what it costs and how much u get out of it. And as far as it being able to be driven everyday, how do you figure that this is more true than other supercars? It gets the mileage about the same as a large V8, and costs around 800 for an oil change, then there are possible part breakage that are expensive as hell to repair, then there is the issue of insurance. I respect if your opinions perfectly, just giving my 02 on the car, i just think the price is a bit steep, im not busting on u or anything, at least you were polite about your opinion. Lots of people would call non NSX fans idiots and crap like that. But hey it's all good.

Hey, where can I upload my pics to share them? Does Imagestation work to post pics?
Thanks
Z :bandit:

Originally posted by NSX FoYoAss
Ok, some of these things that you have mentioned are not true, but commen misconceptions. Owning this car, let me tell you my experiences. You say you are talking about it's value in terms of what it costs and how much you get out of it right? I honestly believe I get alot out of my car. It's very rare, exotic and well built. I get thumbs up everywhere I go. Chicks ask for rides, school buses with kids hangout the window to look at my car, etc etc etc. My M3 didn't get this much attention. Even when I go out in my friends Porsche, we don't get this much attention.
Ok, now lets talk about driving it everyday. It is not true it gets about the same gas mileage as a large V8. I have owned a Mustang in the past, now that was a gas guzzler and it was always breaking down. I replaced almost everything in that car except for the engine(with was very strong).
$800 for an oil change!! :eek: I have no idea where you got that from. The NSX oil change cost as much as a Civic. You can buy OEM NSX oil filters from www.daliracing.com 10 @ $100, which is $10 bucks each. Add some Mobil1 synthetic oil and your good to go. My first oil change was at Jiffy Lube since I hadn't ordered the NSX oil filters yet. It was about $30 - $35 I believe.
About parts breaking down, it's not true that they are expensive. Some of the parts are about what other Acura Parts cost. But then there are some parts that cost an arm and a leg. But it's a Honda, I've never had a problem with this car, and neither did the previous owner who had kept all the records.
Ok, now insurance. I too thought I was gonna get raped on this, but I'm very happy with the price I got. I'm 22 single male, with one theft and one speeding ticket on my record. I pay $170 a month for full coverage, $500 ded. on both the NSX and my Integra. This is throu Allstate and I thinks its a great rate!! :alien2:
What other car is exotic and rare, that is like the NSX? You can buy a Viper(awesome car, maddddd power), but its a gas guzzler, not comfortable(from what I've heard), and expensive to maintane. Then there's the Vette C5(awesome car, I almost bought one) but those are everywhere. Plus they are not exotic and I hear they have lots of problems(no flames, just what I've heard from friends who have owned C4's/C5's). Then there are Porcshe's. Not exotic, but the TT is a beast. My friend works at a Porsche dealership and says they are crap. He see's them in the shop all the time. I would love to have one thou, but it's out of my range, way out of my range.
Trust me, I have alot of respect for all cars. We are all alike in that we love cars, or our cars right? :flash:
But I thought I would share some of my personal experiences. And from my experiences I've learned that this car is worth every penny. Plus lifes short, fuk it. :devil:
peace
Z




Ok, let me start out by saying this... The fact that you get lots of looks at your car doesn't suprise me at all, it's 88thousand and it should get me looks. nor does it convince me that a car should be 88grand on it's looks which arn't even that incredible for the price. Im not saying it isn't good looking, it's nice as shit, but that is about it. No kidding you get looks from it, it's exotic, and kids think it's cool cause they never seen it before. Lots of cars that are way cheaper can get you looks anyways. My friend has a $6,000 300zx that get's more looks than a playmate walking down the street naked, especially when the T-tops are down. That doesn't add value, it's all surface to consider looks as the most important thing in value. And as for the gas mileage, a mustang is a horrible example, they always have problems, and get some of the worse fuel economy's in any v8's. For only 290 hp, i would expect somewhat better gas mileage on a V6 honda engine with variable valve timing. The NSX's mileage is nothing to brag about. And as far as the insurance, lets put it this way... you got really lucky. Oil change that i mentioned before, exotic cars usually have veeeery expensive oil changes, like ferrari, and lambos, and many dual turbocharged exotics, so i have be a bit skeptical on how high proformance the engine is then. Parts breaking, if you had never broken one, you cannot really say that they cost as much as any other acura does because i don't know how many dealerships carry NSX parts since they almost never are around to come into the shops. I know the parts are expensive since way cheeper cars like the 3,000GT and even 300zx that i mentioned before are extremely expensive to replace parts on, and they are no where near the level of rarity of the NSX. This conversation has turned into something like the NSX being an exotic and being able to be driven for everyday use. Why is that even an issue. If i had an exotic, i wouldn't even drive it everday to keep mileage down, id want to savor the great feeling of cruising in it that would be taken away from everyday driving to work. And if it wasn't the most confortable ride in the world, would i care...? I'm driving an NSX for crying out loud, who cares about comfort, cause all im thinking about is how good i look in it anyway. Just my pointers that's all.

Well, that's the North American culture; In Germany, they drive the sh!t out of their Carerras; they take them through everything.

Originally posted by NSX
Well, that's the North American culture; In Germany, they drive the sh!t out of their Carerras; they take them through everything.

My point exactly, do they do that on the drive to work, heck no. On a sunday spin maybe

please upload your pics here:

http://www.automotiveforums.com/upload

:D and then share! :D

PONTICTRAC, hope you understand, I'm not trying to step on your toes here, just sharing my opinions. :cool: I respect everyones opinion as long as they are respectful of others. If someone feels like the new Dodge Neon RT (? If thats what it is, I forget) Is better then a NSX because it's a better bang for your buck, well, that's a fair opinion. Opinions opinions opinion......everyones got one!! :D

Also, I'll post some pics of my car when I get home using a new topic....
Regards
Z



Ok, so I'm bored here at work, so I'm going to post some interesting stuff that I found while surfing the web. (www.nsxhelp.com)

http://www.nsxhelp.com/Books/blackbook/tidh07.jpe

:) Found this interesting:
What Reliability Surveys Has The NSX Appeared In?
J.D. Power & Associates 5-year Dependability Study (SM) (1996)
[ This article taken from the JD Power web site at www.jdpower.com/jdpower/releases/60319car.html ]

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: March 19, 1996

AGOURA HILLS, CALIFORNIA--The Lexus LS 400 and Acura NSX tie as the most dependable car at five years of ownership according to the 1996 J.D. Power and Associates Vehicle Dependability Study. On the light truck side, the Toyota Pickup and the Dodge Ram 50 also tie for top honors. This dependability was measured from surveys returned by more than 33,000 car and truck owners who rated their 1991 vehicles across 89 problem categories based on their last 12 months of ownership.

The following is a list, in rank order, of the top cars after five years of ownership as reported in the J.D. Power and Associates Vehicle Dependability Study:

Acura NSX
*Lexus LS 400
*Infiniti Q45
Mercedes-Benz 300 Series
Mercedes-Benz 300SL/500SL
Cadillac Eldorado
Toyota Cressida
Buick Century
Cadillac Brougham
Porsche 911

*Tied for Best Model in Vehicle Dependability

The following light truck models head each of the six segments featured in the study: Truck Segment 1991 Model-Year Vehicle

Compact Pickup Dodge Ram 50 *
Toyota Pickup *
Full-Size Pickup: Chevrolet C/K Pickup
Compact Sport Utility: Nissan Pathfinder
Full-Size Van: Chevrolet Van/Sport Van
Compact Van: Toyota Previa
Full-Size Sport Utility: Toyota Land Cruiser

(* Tied for Best Truck Model in Vehicle Dependability)

With new vehicle prices at a premium and an influx of cars coming off lease, used cars are more attractive than ever. After five years of ownership, 1991 model-year vehicles are prime candidates for this used car market.

One of the main questions that plague a new-car buyer is whether their car will hold up over the long run-which cars will still be in good condition by the time they pay off their loan? "If you're looking at vehicles that are four to five years old, the Vehicle Dependability Study is an excellent gauge to determine which vehicles will have the least problems. This study is particularly valuable because it measures the number of problems experienced by original owners," commented Bill Wallis, Senior Account Executive at J.D. Power and Associates.

Obviously the current manufacturer focus on vehicle options, and ABS in particular, is a worthy pursuit. The Vehicle
Dependability Study reveals that close to 60 percent of consumers with ABS said they want their next vehicle equipped with this system. The implication is that safety continues to be a key consumer issue. Despite concern in the industry that anti-lock brakes have more problems than traditional brakes, car owners of vehicles with ABS are more satisfied with their brakes and report fewer brake problems than those without. (Of the top ten car models, all, with the exception of the Buick Century came equipped with ABS.)

The focus of the J.D. Power and Associates Vehicle Dependability Study is the past-year problem experience of owners who bought a new personal-use vehicle during the 1991 model year and have retained it. The study looks at durability of specific items, incidence of warranty work, rating of work performed and the amount spent in the past year on non-routine repairs. In addition, the study addresses a wide variety of manufacturer and dealer issues as well as information of value to manufacturer engineers and product designers.

J.D. Power and Associates is an international market research firm specializing in measuring and analyzing consumer opinion and behavior. The firm conducts syndicated and proprietary studies in the telecommunications, automotive, airline, office products, and financial services industries. Headquartered in Agoura Hills, California, the company also has offices in Torrance, California; Detroit, Michigan; Westport, Connecticut; Toronto, Canada; London, England; and Tokyo, Japan. Additional information about J.D. Power and Associates can be accessed through the World Wide Web at http://www.jdpower.com. Media E-mail contact: [email protected]

:) I also think NSX parts are not expensive. I buy all my stuff throu www.asian-auto-parts.com. The guys name is Dave, is gets killer prices on Honda/Acura OEM parts. Just my 2 cents :flash:


Collision Safety
[A/H] The first hard hit NSX that I worked on was hit in the right rear by a Datsun P/U doing about 50 mph. The driver of the NSX was sitting on a city street waiting to get on the freeway onramp. He saw the P/U coming and tried to go to the left around a full size Ford P/U in front of him. The Datsun hit the NSX and pushed it under the Ford. Damage: Right side trunk was gone. Just plastic pieces of phone and CD player. Engine compartment moved about one inch. Engine cover glass: no problem. Right side door: NO PROBLEM, OPEN AND CLOSED PERFECTLY. The front bumper hit the differential of the Ford and bent the leaf spring. The Ford rear bumper hit the "A" pillar on the right side and shattered the front glass. I fixed this car and it is still on the road here at Honda. It is #70. Red Black 5 spd. 65k miles. I also found that if the NSX is put on 4 car stands and if the stands are not exactly the same height and the floor is not very flat then the NSX will rock on 3 stands. This car is very stiff !!


Hope everyone can stomach this:
http://www.nsxhelp.com/faq/ouchies.html


Enjoys....
Z

Originally posted by NSX FoYoAss
PONTICTRAC, hope you understand, I'm not trying to step on your toes here, just sharing my opinions. :cool: I respect everyones opinion as long as they are respectful of others. If someone feels like the new Dodge Neon RT (? If thats what it is, I forget) Is better then a NSX because it's a better bang for your buck, well, that's a fair opinion. Opinions opinions opinion......everyones got one!! :D

Also, I'll post some pics of my car when I get home using a new topic....
Regards
Z



Ok, so I'm bored here at work, so I'm going to post some interesting stuff that I found while surfing the web. (www.nsxhelp.com)

http://www.nsxhelp.com/Books/blackbook/tidh07.jpe

:) Found this interesting:
What Reliability Surveys Has The NSX Appeared In?
J.D. Power & Associates 5-year Dependability Study (SM) (1996)
[ This article taken from the JD Power web site at www.jdpower.com/jdpower/releases/60319car.html ]

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: March 19, 1996

AGOURA HILLS, CALIFORNIA--The Lexus LS 400 and Acura NSX tie as the most dependable car at five years of ownership according to the 1996 J.D. Power and Associates Vehicle Dependability Study. On the light truck side, the Toyota Pickup and the Dodge Ram 50 also tie for top honors. This dependability was measured from surveys returned by more than 33,000 car and truck owners who rated their 1991 vehicles across 89 problem categories based on their last 12 months of ownership.

The following is a list, in rank order, of the top cars after five years of ownership as reported in the J.D. Power and Associates Vehicle Dependability Study:

Acura NSX
*Lexus LS 400
*Infiniti Q45
Mercedes-Benz 300 Series
Mercedes-Benz 300SL/500SL
Cadillac Eldorado
Toyota Cressida
Buick Century
Cadillac Brougham
Porsche 911

*Tied for Best Model in Vehicle Dependability

The following light truck models head each of the six segments featured in the study: Truck Segment 1991 Model-Year Vehicle

Compact Pickup Dodge Ram 50 *
Toyota Pickup *
Full-Size Pickup: Chevrolet C/K Pickup
Compact Sport Utility: Nissan Pathfinder
Full-Size Van: Chevrolet Van/Sport Van
Compact Van: Toyota Previa
Full-Size Sport Utility: Toyota Land Cruiser

(* Tied for Best Truck Model in Vehicle Dependability)

With new vehicle prices at a premium and an influx of cars coming off lease, used cars are more attractive than ever. After five years of ownership, 1991 model-year vehicles are prime candidates for this used car market.

One of the main questions that plague a new-car buyer is whether their car will hold up over the long run-which cars will still be in good condition by the time they pay off their loan? "If you're looking at vehicles that are four to five years old, the Vehicle Dependability Study is an excellent gauge to determine which vehicles will have the least problems. This study is particularly valuable because it measures the number of problems experienced by original owners," commented Bill Wallis, Senior Account Executive at J.D. Power and Associates.

Obviously the current manufacturer focus on vehicle options, and ABS in particular, is a worthy pursuit. The Vehicle
Dependability Study reveals that close to 60 percent of consumers with ABS said they want their next vehicle equipped with this system. The implication is that safety continues to be a key consumer issue. Despite concern in the industry that anti-lock brakes have more problems than traditional brakes, car owners of vehicles with ABS are more satisfied with their brakes and report fewer brake problems than those without. (Of the top ten car models, all, with the exception of the Buick Century came equipped with ABS.)

The focus of the J.D. Power and Associates Vehicle Dependability Study is the past-year problem experience of owners who bought a new personal-use vehicle during the 1991 model year and have retained it. The study looks at durability of specific items, incidence of warranty work, rating of work performed and the amount spent in the past year on non-routine repairs. In addition, the study addresses a wide variety of manufacturer and dealer issues as well as information of value to manufacturer engineers and product designers.

J.D. Power and Associates is an international market research firm specializing in measuring and analyzing consumer opinion and behavior. The firm conducts syndicated and proprietary studies in the telecommunications, automotive, airline, office products, and financial services industries. Headquartered in Agoura Hills, California, the company also has offices in Torrance, California; Detroit, Michigan; Westport, Connecticut; Toronto, Canada; London, England; and Tokyo, Japan. Additional information about J.D. Power and Associates can be accessed through the World Wide Web at http://www.jdpower.com. Media E-mail contact: [email protected]

:) I also think NSX parts are not expensive. I buy all my stuff throu www.asian-auto-parts.com. The guys name is Dave, is gets killer prices on Honda/Acura OEM parts. Just my 2 cents :flash:


Collision Safety
[A/H] The first hard hit NSX that I worked on was hit in the right rear by a Datsun P/U doing about 50 mph. The driver of the NSX was sitting on a city street waiting to get on the freeway onramp. He saw the P/U coming and tried to go to the left around a full size Ford P/U in front of him. The Datsun hit the NSX and pushed it under the Ford. Damage: Right side trunk was gone. Just plastic pieces of phone and CD player. Engine compartment moved about one inch. Engine cover glass: no problem. Right side door: NO PROBLEM, OPEN AND CLOSED PERFECTLY. The front bumper hit the differential of the Ford and bent the leaf spring. The Ford rear bumper hit the "A" pillar on the right side and shattered the front glass. I fixed this car and it is still on the road here at Honda. It is #70. Red Black 5 spd. 65k miles. I also found that if the NSX is put on 4 car stands and if the stands are not exactly the same height and the floor is not very flat then the NSX will rock on 3 stands. This car is very stiff !!


Hope everyone can stomach this:
http://www.nsxhelp.com/faq/ouchies.html


Enjoys....
Z

Aw man, now you make me feel like an ass, sorry, my reply wasn't against your opinion, it's just some of the stuff i said i strongly believe is true and i respect anyone elses opinions, urs too, i was just saying some things that could make the nsx not an ordinary drivers car really, but im not always right, you own one, you would know more than me, but i am jus basing on what i read/heard/believe.

Who thinks da NSX is 2 expensive for it performance???

290 hp for $80,000 dat just crazy on a V6 too....... Honda can do better.......... U can Buy 2 vets for dat price with 400 Hp..... OR almost 3 S2000 wich only comes with about 40 hp less than da NSX.... and u could another $4,000 dollars to put an supercharger on da S2000 and you'll have more than enough power to take on an NSX..........FOR A FRACTION OF THE PRICEHonda should be getting about 350 form dat engine.... THey DOnt NEed a V8 .......... Dat's just a selling scam so people would buy it...........


I think Honda has 2 options:
1. MORE HORSEPOWER....LOTS OF IT....I think Da ACura RL makes more than NSX on wat is basically Da same engine

2. BRing da COst down so it can be competive.......

Are you on drugs or just plain an idiot?

You are obviously not the NSX's target buyer.

Exactly. :D

OH Really!!! then who is Some stupid rich guy who has nutting else to spend their money except on a car whose styling copies dat of a ferrari??? or whose performance can be beaten by a supped up integra or TT supra ( wich cost about $35 grand less for EXTREMELY better performance) OR some rich guy who SIMPLY doesnt KNOE any BEtter???

$100 says that the NSX target buyer is someone who can spell and use proper grammar. Your post did make me laugh though. :D

I might be a bit older than most of the croud here. I'm 45 and have a NSX. Personally I think that it is just about the right age for the owner of this fine machine. ( OK, Maybe as young as 30 ) The reason that I say that is because At my age, I no longer have to PROVE that I have the fastest car. No, its NOT the fastest, but if you come up against another car without turbo/supercharger you will at least not be embarassed (sp?) by the outcome.....Sure, there are cars that beat the pants off mine, But I look better sitting still than they do. NSXfoyoass (hope I got that right) is right in saying that you could drive the car all the time. It has the reliablity of a Honda. Its greatest faults are clutches ($3500) and tires ($325 each). It EATS tires! The price sticker on the window will tell you that your tires will not last 10,000 miles. This is very true, but nothing but a 911 can corner like it, And its capabilities have even impressed Porsche owners, While driving on the same track. The tires will probably last something more like 6000 miles. If you take care of the fore mentioned and adjust the valves every 25K there is no reason not to get 200K miles out of this car ( Pardon, this is also assuming that you don't push the tach over 8000 RPM's EVER! ) What makes the car worth so much money is that it is hand built, After it is hand built honda takes each one out to a test track built for THIS car and runs the $hit out of it. you will never find an NSX on a showroom floor with less than 40 miles on it. All this said. you still think that you can find a better value? Show me another hand made car built to these specs at a cheaper price.

By the way......I've seen pictures of the skyline, Would anybody be interested in it if it didn't have that monster drivetrain? Outside of that, I don't see the appeal.

^^I agree with you to a point. I tutor a kid named Mickey and his dad drives a 5-Spd 1998 NSX, If I drove that car I wouldnt trying to take it to the track or auto X competitions, I would probably upgrade intake piping with an older C5-R Intake Filter. (You ahve to follow racing to know that the new ones are smaller cause the old piping and filter made too much hp haha) Put a nice wide exaust to the rear and I might race a few ppl on the street. I am 15 eyars old and would take immaculate care of it, I would take it over a built up porsche 944 turbo (951) or a 911.

I agree with you to a point. I tutor a kid named Mickey and his dad drives a 5-Spd 1998 NSX,




Actually if the Car is a '98 it is a 6 speed :o)

...you will never find an NSX on a showroom floor with less than 40 miles on it...

Actually, most NSX's arrive at the dealer with about 12 miles on them. When I was in college I worked for an Acura dealer and the NSX's would arrive with 10-15 miles on them, and never any more than that. Just food for thought. :)

And one last, minute thing...

There isnt a stock Supra turbo from anytime thats going to beat the NSX even in the quarter mile. It really isnt even close. The NSX will usually win by about 2 or more car lengths. And just ask me to back it up. Ill send videos. One: Skyline GT-R R34 vs SupraTT. Supra is owned. #2 Skyline GT-R R34 vs Honda NSX Type-S Zero. GT-R takes a seat as well. Or maybe a web site, check JB cars. Or you can even check an actual GT-R website. Not to down the GT-R, which is an amazing machine... and im rambling. Ive made my point.:rolleyes:


ya back it up haha im not doughting you i just want to see these races!

Actually, most NSX's arrive at the dealer with about 12 miles on them. When I was in college I worked for an Acura dealer and the NSX's would arrive with 10-15 miles on them, and never any more than that. Just food for thought. :)

This is what my dealer told me. My car went into service with 80 miles on it. He told me that was twice the norm, and why that was so.

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