Cold Air Intake Help

I kinda need help installing my cold air intake on my 2000 sunfire. when i ordered it, it didnt come with instructions so im not completely sure wut i have to do to install it. thx in advance for ur help.

Dont know what kind of intake you got but if its a true cold air this aem instruction pdf will get you good to go. clicky clicky (http://aempower.com/images/products/21447.pdf)

wow. thx alot! thats exactly wut i was lookin for!

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ok...i have it installed and it fits good. im just having a problem w/ the air sensor. it wont fit in the rubber inlet. is there a trick to gettin the sensor in the rubber inlet or do u just have to buy a new sensor? thx

Hmm if the one u have now doesnt fit, then a new one probley wouldnt either. What kind is it and wherd u get it from?

the cold air intake is vibrant performance. the sensor is stock. i ordered the intake online. i think i ordered it from the parts bin (never ordering from there again, way too many problems w/ shipping and other little things). but its the real Vibrant Performance cold air intake and it fits like a charm but cant get the sensor in. i tried shaving the rubber inlet and i even tried some lubricant.

on mine it was like fitting a softball through a garden hose, i had to use this really good lubricant for about 20 minutes, then i went outside to work on the car, just kidding, but seriously, it was a bitch and a half, have you tried using a lubricant of any kind??

i used this one kind of lub but i forget wut its called. its in my garage but its almost 9 o'clock and i dont wanna walk outside. lol. wut kind of lub did u use on yours?

KY allll the way baby. :grinyes:

haha dammm, really that hard to get in? My aem one went in with no problem.

i dont remmeber what the stuff i used was, maybe try motor oil, if nothing else, you could wrap electrical tape around it and just kinda shove it in there, if you get desparate enough to do that be sure to do a damn good job

lol. man this sux, maybe i shoulda spent the extra money on an AEM. if i woulda known id be having so many problems, i would have.

You did take the iat sensor out of the rubber grommit stick the rubber grommit into the hole and then stick the sensor ack into the grommit?

ya...already tried it and no luck.

youd better hope your engine doesnt have the black box of death that came with my 98 cavy. stupid 2200SFI plastic intake plenum that connects the throttlebody and the breather hole to the air filter... its very restrictive, if you have this junk on there, i suggest you take it out, and run straightpipe from the TB to the filter, and then get a breather hole filter. you should see my setup, ive used an elbow pipe, a small mandrel-bent pipe from a previous short ram intake setup by BOMZ racing, and some classic heat ventilation flex-tube, with the filter attached at the end, and 3 rubber cupplers. The flex-tube is nice, since i can put the air filter wherever i need it to go.

one thing about cavy's, (maybe sunfires as well) they arent too responsive to an air intake alone, in fact it sometimes gets worse throttle response than if i had the stock rubber hosing and shit on it together. get rid of the stock muffler and take out the cat conv, and get a freeflow exhaust system combined with your intake, and youll start to notice some pretty nice response.

or... you could save your money and go custom turbo setup.

yes, my engine has the black box of death. lol. i hate it and now im kinda regreting i didnt get an AEM intake.

im going to get a new header and a new exhaust system within the next 5 months.

I personally like Injen myself, AEM is too Honda for me.

ya...Injen was another brand i was considering. but newayz...i FINALLY got my intake working and i love it! i took it out right away, floored it goin down the road, it sounds alot better and the acceleration is ALOT smoother. i absolutly LOVE it. haha. thank you to EVERYONE for everything! i really appreciate it!!!

ya...Injen was another brand i was considering. but newayz...i FINALLY got my intake working and i love it! i took it out right away, floored it goin down the road, it sounds alot better and the acceleration is ALOT smoother. i absolutly LOVE it. haha. thank you to EVERYONE for everything! i really appreciate it!!!

Hehehe, you love even the smallest gains, i envy you. When i got my first intake installed, i was dissapointed with its results, after i got my can installed, i was happy, becuz my car could sound ricer. After i got the performance header installed, things were good, i in fact have a video on my other computer of me racing an 89 camaro, and beating it, 0-60 in 8 seconds, stoplight action in ankeny. the camaro had a modified dual exhaust system, carb'd, chevy 305. you shoulda seen the look on his face after getting smoked by a naturally aspirated 2.2L OHV 4-cylinder 147HP cavalier! hehehe, but my ricer days are over, im selling the cavalier for 1200 and am acquiring a 1993 Nissan 300ZX 2+2 DOHC 3.0L 6-cylinder w/ VG30DETT swap. But trust me, you'll love it when you get the new exhaust, youll feel the push once you hit second gear, its sexy. If you get your car a serious diet, and you get quality N/A parts (unlike me), you may have a chance against chevy 350s, and some turbo'd 4's. Just make sure you dont dick around with oxygen sensors on your intake piping and exhaust system. It really screws up the timing of the tranny and causes engine knock.

k aboujt the blakc box of death lmao should i completely remove that thing or what becasue i have the bottom half of it like i got al hte top shit off of it and my AEM intake fits perfect and the filter like sits in the box abit.

But off topihere i was wondering if someone could help me fix my driving light problem... k well the left side bulb i thought was dead so i got a new one and it still doesnt work any suggestions????

But off topihere i was wondering if someone could help me fix my driving light problem... k well the left side bulb i thought was dead so i got a new one and it still doesnt work any suggestions????Umm I think its the relay that has gone bad on you I may be wrong though.

Hehehe, you love even the smallest gains, i envy you. When i got my first intake installed, i was dissapointed with its results, after i got my can installed, i was happy, becuz my car could sound ricer. After i got the performance header installed, things were good, i in fact have a video on my other computer of me racing an 89 camaro, and beating it, 0-60 in 8 seconds, stoplight action in ankeny. the camaro had a modified dual exhaust system, carb'd, chevy 305. you shoulda seen the look on his face after getting smoked by a naturally aspirated 2.2L OHV 4-cylinder 147HP cavalier! hehehe, but my ricer days are over, im selling the cavalier for 1200 and am acquiring a 1993 Nissan 300ZX 2+2 DOHC 3.0L 6-cylinder w/ VG30DETT swap. But trust me, you'll love it when you get the new exhaust, youll feel the push once you hit second gear, its sexy. If you get your car a serious diet, and you get quality N/A parts (unlike me), you may have a chance against chevy 350s, and some turbo'd 4's. Just make sure you dont dick around with oxygen sensors on your intake piping and exhaust system. It really screws up the timing of the tranny and causes engine knock.

ya...i cant wait to get my header and exhaust. i wanted to get my body kit, hood, and spoiler b4 i got the header or exhaust but now im second guessing it and im gonna split the cost of the header w/ my parents for xmas and then for my bday (february) ill prolly get my exhaust and my parents will pay for part of it. hell, it might be the only things im getting from them but it will save me some money in that case.

about the vid, i wanna see that, it sounds interesting. u think u will ever be able to post it here or email it to me? i really wanna see it.:smokin:

ya...i cant wait to get my header and exhaust. i wanted to get my body kit, hood, and spoiler b4 i got the header or exhaust but now im second guessing it and im gonna split the cost of the header w/ my parents for xmas and then for my bday (february) ill prolly get my exhaust and my parents will pay for part of it. hell, it might be the only things im getting from them but it will save me some money in that case.

about the vid, i wanna see that, it sounds interesting. u think u will ever be able to post it here or email it to me? i really wanna see it.:smokin:

i will try to find it, it be on another computer i think, so it may take me a few days, but ill see what i can do... as far as the black box of death goes, what i did was completely took off the box, and the throttle body spacer ring that expands the overall diameter to support the box, and ran a small elbow pipe with clamps attached, and then a mandrel-bent tube from an old air intake setup, with the O2 sensor attached, and then some aluminum flextube with the filter attached at the bottom. i have the filter located right after the engine front, and before the radiator, that small space allows colder air to sweep through from under the engine bay and the radiator towards the air filter. talk about ram air, this baby sucks it up no prob! i have a picture or two of the setup, right before i sell the biatch.

k aboujt the blakc box of death lmao should i completely remove that thing or what becasue i have the bottom half of it like i got al hte top shit off of it and my AEM intake fits perfect and the filter like sits in the box abit.

But off topihere i was wondering if someone could help me fix my driving light problem... k well the left side bulb i thought was dead so i got a new one and it still doesnt work any suggestions????

well the AEM intake should have certain specifications on what should be left in there or not. as far as i can tell, the only reason you'd want to leave that intake box in is if your considering to make it like a heat shield box, made specifically in certain cold air intake kits. BUT, i doubt anyone could get it to perform the same , let alone it would do you any good in the first place. I mean, come on, the thing looks damn ugly! (and its a pain to take out tho, look for a plastic screw or somethin that holds the box to the engine bay, located at the rear of the bay, i think its also attached to the fuse box, or close by)

k so get rid of the ugly death black box lol then....

and wat did u mean about the relay prob as gone bad liek what does it look like or were would i find it ...? thx

k so get rid of the ugly death black box lol then....

and wat did u mean about the relay prob as gone bad liek what does it look like or were would i find it ...? thx

http://www.freewebs.com/fragfest06/photos/enginebay%20001.jpg

the two red circles are where the intake box is secured (at least i think, its been a long time). the one located at the rear of the engine bay is the main secure location, its an oddly designed metal stump sticking out with a hole, surrounded with rubber, which holds a large portion of the intake box to the engine bay. this is the most difficult to take out, youll have to manuever the box at a certain angle to pull it out, took me some time and thinking with my dad to get rid of it.

and dont mind my messy engine bay, i dont have a crane to pull the damn thing out and clean around like some people do...

.....:eek7: isn't it not as good to put the intake near the radiator or in that area because of more heat? I mean....there's gotta be a reason why everybody including AEM and Injen put the filter behind the battery, as far away from that heat as possible.

.....:eek7: isn't it not as good to put the intake near the radiator or in that area because of more heat? I mean....there's gotta be a reason why everybody including AEM and Injen put the filter behind the battery, as far away from that heat as possible....thats what im thinking also the way he has it the filter is pretty damn close to the header so that is also going to give off a bunch of heat. But hey whatever floats his boat I guess.

ya...same here. uve gotta be gettin alot heat right there. thats not healthy. :eek7:

but newayz...i was jw, which kinda header should i get? a stainless steel header or a ceramic coated header? which is better and y? thx guys!

but newayz...i was jw, which kinda header should i get? a stainless steel header or a ceramic coated header? which is better and y? thx guys!what engine do you have in that sunflower again?? but anyway I would go with Pacesetter header.
http://www.pacesetterexhaust.com/images/72c1279.jpg and make sure you get the Armor Coated header not the black painted finish beacause the painted ones tend to over heat bad and the paint chips.

lol. i have a little 2.2L lol. but i like my sunflower thank u very much.:naughty:

ill prolly get a pacesetter or HPRacing. but should i get stainless steel header or ceramic coated header?

Looks like he used tubing from a clothing dryer :lol:

and make sure you get the Armor Coated header not the black painted finish beacause the painted ones tend to over heat bad and the paint chips. like I said.


Looks like he used tubing from a clothing dryer :lol:Even though I'm pretty sure thats what it is, no flamming Lance. :nono:

http://www.pacesetterexhaust.com/images/72c1279.jpg

This is a 2.4 header tho.

This is a 2.4 header tho.yeah I know I posted that before he told me what engine was in the flower.

2.2 Armor Coated header

http://www.gravanatuning.com/prod_images/large/PAC-72C1276.jpg

Even though I'm pretty sure thats what it is, no flamming Lance. :nono:
Yes, I know. But I just find it weird that he comes off as this all knowledgeable street racer type but yet has something like that in his engine bay. :screwy:

so no one can help me with the lgiht relay thingy mycavy i think was talking about earlier and shit i aint to pumped about taking out the black box of death i was looking at today yeah..... looks like fun............

Yes, I know. But I just find it weird that he comes off as this all knowledgeable street racer type but yet has something like that in his engine bay. :screwy:ohh yeah I know I thought the same thing, buttt I kept myself from opening my mouth for once :smokin:

so no one can help me with the lgiht relay thingy mycavy i think was talking about earlierUmm it should be in one of the 2 fuse boxes I think, it will be a small grey looking block. check you manual to be sure which one it is.

what engine do you have in that sunflower again?? but anyway I would go with Pacesetter header.
http://www.pacesetterexhaust.com/images/72c1279.jpg and make sure you get the Armor Coated header not the black painted finish beacause the painted ones tend to over heat bad and the paint chips.

ok...ill prolly get the ceramic coated header but y is it better then stainless steel?

and wuts a good site for headers?

ok...ill prolly get the ceramic coated header but y is it better then stainless steel?

and wuts a good site for headers?I'm not really sure why its better, my guess is because it probably resists heat better? :dunno:

http://gravanatuning.com/applications/2000_Pontiac_Sunfire_Coupe_2.2.aspx/19/210/_Pacesetter_72C1276_Armor_Coat_4_into_1_Header

ok, thx man for ur help.

ok, thx man for ur help.:thumbsup: no problem man.

I dunno if this has been discussed already but FYI with a 4-1 header it's gonna feel like you're losing horsepower, and with bigger diameter piping with that header be sure to use a resonator because it will be alot louder. I had a 4-1 pacesetter header on my 2.2 without a resonator and a high flow cat with the rksport dual exhaust and it sounded like complete shit, and it also felt like i lost alot of power because of the 4-1 header and dual exhaust, i'll never get a 4-1 header again, only 4-2-1.

...thats what im thinking also the way he has it the filter is pretty damn close to the header so that is also going to give off a bunch of heat. But hey whatever floats his boat I guess.

yeah, i thought that too at one point. but i started experimenting with the different places i could put the filter at. the car isnt very quick at the response to me adding more gas when the filter was put into the side area, behind the battery. therefore, i tried the next most convenient location, the front area, yes near the radiator. but i took out the intake splash shielding off, so the filter is positioned in the path of the slit of the hood, and the way the hood is curved, the air scoops down near the filter area. it seems that since more air is flowing through the front of the engine bay, the filter has more room to breath, plus i drive to and from school thats in the middle of nowhere so i drive 60 - 80 the whole time, radiator is being air-cooled.

But anyhow it wont matter anymore! because! im selling the cavy, since i have purchased a 1992 Nissan 300ZX TT 3.0L V6 VG30DETT swapped in, so i had to return the original short ram intake setup, which did have the filter behind the battery, but had the ridiculous 2200SFI plastic plenum attached to the TB.

and one more thought, these setups we talk about shouldnt really be called cold air intakes, because they are usually placed inside the engine bay , close enough to the engine where the air surrounding the intake filter is really warm, or hot. id rather call these warm air intakes, unless your smart and make your own intake kit and place the filter near the wheel well and make it opened up for the outside air to breach the engine chamber. just hope your using a bypass valve!

has anyone else heard of the "MONZA Performance Exhaust System"?

http://www.nopionline.com/nopistore/dsp_part_detail.cfm?vmakeid=296&vmodelid=720&vcatyear=2000&vnopinum=001%2B3246&vTitle=2000%20PONTIAC%20Sunfire

if uve had experience or kno ne1 thats had this exhaust, how is it? those of u that never experienced this exhaust system, how do u think it would run and do u think it would last? just some need some input b4 i do nething stupid. lol

has anyone else heard of the "MONZA Performance Exhaust System"?

http://www.nopionline.com/nopistore/dsp_part_detail.cfm?vmakeid=296&vmodelid=720&vcatyear=2000&vnopinum=001%2B3246&vTitle=2000%20PONTIAC%20Sunfire

if uve had experience or kno ne1 thats had this exhaust, how is it? those of u that never experienced this exhaust system, how do u think it would run and do u think it would last? just some need some input b4 i do nething stupid. lolcomplete shit!!!! I posted a link not to long ago about it and got all back reactions about it so stay away lol
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=609840

complete shit!!!! I posted a link not to long ago about it and got all back reactions about it so stay away lol
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=609840

oOo...that sounds baaaaaad. guess im stayin away from that bad boy. lol. thx again man. uve been a REALLY big help!

oOo...that sounds baaaaaad. guess im stayin away from that bad boy. lol. thx again man. uve been a REALLY big help!haha yeah I would stick clear of that garbage.

thx again man. uve been a REALLY big help!And once again :thumbsup: no problem man.

i was lookin on ebay and i was wondering if i should order an exhaust system from there. should i get one from ebay or just avoid ebay all together when it comes to performance?

Only if it's name brand and just make sure it actually is name brand and doesn't say like....Greddy "style" exhaust. Make sure it really is Greddy. Get it?

ya...i get wut ur sayin. thx for that piece of info, it helps out.

Only if it's name brand and just make sure it actually is name brand and doesn't say like....Greddy "style" exhaust. Make sure it really is Greddy. Get it?

yeah he says it the best, i know a few people who have ordered N1 style mufflers from ebay that are "made of 100% T304 steel", the mufflers rust easy if you dont polish every few times a week, but they perform just about as good. They burn-in wierd tho, they get quieter as time progresses.

i was lookin on ebay and i was wondering if i should order an exhaust system from there. should i get one from ebay or just avoid ebay all together when it comes to performance?Like the other have said, you can go that route ONLY if you buy one that has the name brand on it. Or you could skip ebay altogether and just buy one from a respectable online store or a good muffler shop near you. I got my exhaust from a custom car shop by me and I love it. (its dual Ractive mufflers btw)

i got some summit racing mufflers, and then I am going to get them powdercoated, nice sound no res needed and the powder coating will make them pretty lol

i got some summit racing mufflers, and then I am going to get them powdercoated, nice sound no res needed and the powder coating will make them pretty lolWTF is with you and refering to car parts as pretty? :gay: lol

k well that black death box to take out was real easy all i did was take the battery out and then the one scerw and pulled the thing out of the gromit and bam it looks 10x better