Cold Air Intake Help

k well that black death box to take out was real easy all i did was take the battery out and then the one scerw and pulled the thing out of the gromit and bam it looks 10x better:useless:

so what u want me to take some pics of it? lol and shit

i got some summit racing mufflers, and then I am going to get them powdercoated, nice sound no res needed and the powder coating will make them pretty lol
Never heard of powedercoating mufflers before, what the hell color would you do them?

Like the other have said, you can go that route ONLY if you buy one that has the name brand on it. Or you could skip ebay altogether and just buy one from a respectable online store or a good muffler shop near you. I got my exhaust from a custom car shop by me and I love it. (its dual Ractive mufflers btw)

ok...well i was thinking about getting this exhaust. good choice or no?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/95-96-02-98-99-CHEVY-CAVALIER-SUNFIRE-CAT-BACK-EXHAUST_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33630QQihZ015QQ itemZ250031097624QQrdZ1


and then for headers, i was thinking of the following... (id like a 4-2-1)

http://gravanatuning.com/applications/2000_Pontiac_Sunfire_Coupe_2.2.aspx/19/210/_Pacesetter_72C1276_Armor_Coat_4_into_1_Header

http://www.bbtcustoms.com/19chca24stst.html

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/98-02-PONTIAC-SUNFIRE-2-2L-STAINLESS-STEEL-HEADER-01-00_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33631QQihZ019QQitemZ 290031752955QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/98-02-PONTIAC-SUNFIRE-2-2L-2D-4D-RACING-HEADER-SE-00-01_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33631QQihZ017QQitemZ 270030867009QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/98-02-CHEVY-CAVALIER-PONTIAC-SUNFIRE-HEADER-99-00-01-NR_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33631QQihZ017QQitemZ 270031687805QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW#ebayphotohosti ng


i am looking for a pretty good header but trying to stay away spending alot. thx for ur time and opinions everyone.

Never heard of powedercoating mufflers before, what the hell color would you do them?

no clue, might go black or silver depends really, the mufflers don't get hot enough to mess up the powder coating

:useless:

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a6/cavalier2000/Cavalier/IMG00028.jpg

follow the intake and that is the box........ or is that not what you were refering to

has any heard of or used JDM Sport exhausts and/or OBX Racing Headers?

I don't know much about then but I do know I would never use either. They're definitely not has good as other name brands out there. You get what you pay for with car/car parts. If you're looking for cheap stuff, you're into the wrong hobby.

i kno ill have to spend alot. i just want to see if i can get something that will save me a little money that is just as good. y do u think im asking? im asking all of u so i dont get riped off. im goinna ask questions no matter wut. idc if the product is $100 or $500, im going to ask so i get an idea of how that product will perform. :disappoin

now...if i can ask another question...
would anyone kno how HPRacing headers perform? i saw Nopi sellin them.:naughty:

I hear ya man, I'm just stressing the fact that cheap parts will only do you wrong. Trying to spare you the trips to the stress doctor. :lol:

About the Hpracing header, did you see any specifically for Cavaliers? Because I can't say i've heard of them.

ya...thx, i really do appreciate it. but ya...thats y i do keep askin the questions is so i kno for sure. so wut would u consider the HPRacing header that Nopi sells? it looks desent considering that its ceramic coated.

>>>About the Hpracing header, did you see any specifically for Cavaliers? Because I can't say i've heard of them.

no, i dont think ive seen one SPECIFICALLY for a cav. not 100% sure tho. wut exhaust system and header do u have on ur car lance?

and also, how do u think a Vibrant Performance exhaust system would perform?

I've never heard of an HpRacing header for cavaliers so they might not make them, I have no idea tho.

On my 96 2.2, I had a ceramic coated 4-1 Pacesetter header, with a Magnaflow high flow cat converter, and the Rksport magnaflow dual exhaust. The whole exhaust was pretty much just for show and bragging rights....aside from being a waste of $1,000+ for a 2.2. The 4-1 header design, combined with the dual exhaust with straight through mufflers was just too much flow for the little 2.2 engine, lol i had no rear pressure to..push? the car, if you will? I'll never get a 4-1 header again or a dual muffler exhaust set up, unless im only going for looks. But I took that all off the car anyway because im parting it out and selling it. I don't have an after market exhaust on my z24 yet but I plan on getting the Rksport 4-2-1 header, with a magnaflow highflow cat converter again, with a Dynomax resonator to dampen the sound, with either a Dynomax super turbo muffler or a Magnaflow dual outlet muffler that's made for the Srt4s.

I personally don't have any experience with Vibrant exhausts nor have I heard of anyone having one, but they don't look too bad, they kinda look like they'd have a raspy sound to them but I looked them up and they said that "some" systems have an intergrated resonator already on the connecting pipe, so if you go with that one, i'd ask them if it comes with the resonator or not, if not just pick up a dynomax one from summitracing.com, they're not expensive, probly around $50, def. under $100.

nice:grinyes:

hey, i was jw...is it better if the resonator is longer (18") or shorter (12")? and how much does the stock exhaust piping kill performance? cuz now im thinking of just buying a header, resonator, catalytic converter, and muffler w/ tip.

The longer the resonator, the more it dampens the sound. I don't know too much about the pipe diameters other then, (i think) 2.25 is the way to go, someone correct me if i'm wrong.

ok, so it doesnt really matter that much whether i go w/ a 12 or 18 inch resonator? i thought the pipe diameter was 2.50. i could be wrong tho; 2.25 makes a lil more sense since its stock and all.

for a 2200 yes 2.25 is stock and would work just fine unless you are boosted

ok, thx lance and cav

ok, i found these 4 mufflers. i dont kno which one i should get. can everyone look at them and tell me which one i should get...

http://www.sfxperformance.com/parts/VIB10500.htm
http://www.cardomain.com/item/MGF14858 (Without Sound Damper)
http://www.cardomain.com/item/MGF14859 (Without Sound Damper)
http://www.cardomain.com/item/MGF14809

btw...i will be getting a Vibrant Performance resonator and a Magnaflow catalytic converter.

thx to everyone for ur help.

The last one, gotta get a resonator too tho.

ok. y that one? im jw so i kno y. u kno?

but im gonna get this Vibrant Performance resonator

http://www.sfxperformance.com/parts/VIB1790.htm

Its really up to what you want. #2 and 3 are both for alot of sound, and the last one is for sound and looks. Really not much diffrence inbetween each one, just your own preference.

The last one, gotta get a resonator too tho.:iagree: definatley go with that one and then an 18in resonator.

ok, im gonna get the last one. looks good to me!

about the resonator, do i REALLY need it? i want a nice loud deep sound to my exhaust and wont the resonator just take away from that? idk...i was just thinking.

the resonator wont take that much sound away from it. but what it will do is keep your exhaust from sounding very crackly and ricey.

ok, so it should still be pretty loud and sounding good, correct? will a 12in resonator do the job or no?

Yes you should be very pleased with the resonator on there. I think the 12 in one is ok but alot of people recommend the 18 in one :dunno:

k well i have a powertech muffler that is pretty damn sweet. and shit it is loud when u take the silencer out and i still have my resonator in and my muffler at 5.5 rpm is 119.9 Db loud so ya it is pretty damn loud. liek the legal limit here in saskatchewan is like 80 Db lol. and it has a lower deep sounds and still ricey sound and not that high pitch sound that sounds liek a dirt bike lol! :)

I have a question here.....i read somewhere (i forget where) but there is not an 4-2-1 header for the 2.4 even the ones that say they are if you look at the design the header pipes are going the wrong away if you put it on a 2.4 the pipes would head for the front of the car.....unless you can turn them around somehow but that doesn't look possible. just something i remember reading cause i wanted a 4-2-1 header and since i couldn't get one i decided that was the end of the header idea.

k well i have a powertech muffler that is pretty damn sweet. and shit it is loud when u take the silencer out and i still have my resonator in and my muffler at 5.5 rpm is 119.9 Db loud so ya it is pretty damn loud. liek the legal limit here in saskatchewan is like 80 Db lol. and it has a lower deep sounds and still ricey sound and not that high pitch sound that sounds liek a dirt bike lol! :)

lol. thats awesome! sounds like somethin i would like. wut car do u have? how big is ur resonator?

i have a 99 cavy 2.4l and my res is a just stock i got stock exhaust for now but i am prob goign to get a better exhaust next spring but u should invest in this muffler man liek i live in asmaller town and my friends say they can here me coming when i am giving her shit aobut 1/2 way across town and maybe abit more at night she is a nice sound t like when it is idleing on the garage u can hear her nicely in the house :) i dont think it is a waste of money it was one of my best investments. and my 2800$ stereo :)

so your looking for that big "fart" pipe muffler

ok. y that one? im jw so i kno y. u kno?

but im gonna get this Vibrant Performance resonator

http://www.sfxperformance.com/parts/VIB1790.htm
I wouldn't get that one, when you look into resonators, the best ones have a perforated center, with fiberglass packing inside, the Vibrant one you listed doesn't say anything about that.

And I chose the last muffler because it's got a slanted rolled edge, which i think looks way better then the look of a soup can that's been opened by a can opener, and the tip isn't obnoxiously long.

i have a 99 cavy 2.4l and my res is a just stock i got stock exhaust for now but i am prob goign to get a better exhaust next spring but u should invest in this muffler man liek i live in asmaller town and my friends say they can here me coming when i am giving her shit aobut 1/2 way across town and maybe abit more at night she is a nice sound t like when it is idleing on the garage u can hear her nicely in the house :) i dont think it is a waste of money it was one of my best investments. and my 2800$ stereo :)

haha. thats kool. whered u get it? can u send me the link to check it out?


I wouldn't get that one, when you look into resonators, the best ones have a perforated center, with fiberglass packing inside, the Vibrant one you listed doesn't say anything about that.

And I chose the last muffler because it's got a slanted rolled edge, which i think looks way better then the look of a soup can that's been opened by a can opener, and the tip isn't obnoxiously long.

thx for informing me about that. is there any brands of resonators u recommend? got ne links? i was thinkin about the slanted tip on the muffler. i was wondering about the tip length too cuz i dont want it too long. ill prolly get that 1 tho, its looks good. theres a 99% chance, but i wanna check out the one derow recommended.

it says muffler tho and its really big. =/

It is bigger then the 12" you were talking about but it is a resonator. That's the one I'm gonna be getting.

hmm...interesting...r u sure there is a 25in section of straight pipe? o well...idk wut ill do, this is a hurtful process for the brain :bloated: . lol

lol yes it is, could always look under the car and measure if there's room for it. I check for a shorter one but that was it, they go up to 35" long :eek7:

Just get a damn 18in resonator and be done with it bro.

so your looking for that big "fart" pipe muffler


lmao big fart pipe as if it aint even huge it is like bigger then a cheap ractive one but it aint one of thsoe ugly ovle ones it is a sexy one :D

lmao big fart pipe as if it aint even huge it is like bigger then a cheap ractive one but it aint one of thsoe ugly ovle ones it is a sexy one :Dhey now what you talking about cheap ractive mufflers? :swear: I have 2 of them on mine and they are sound awesome. they also werent cheap.

lol sorry u might have ga good ractive one then but tmine aint much bigger then a ractive one lol

Yeah I think both my ractive mufflers are nice. So your saying yours isnt much bigger in what, diameter of it?

Yeah I think both my ractive mufflers are nice. So your saying yours isnt much bigger in what, diameter of it?


It is 20 inchs long from back to end of tip and it is a 4 inch tip and the muffler is 5 inchs diameter and it is round like ractive

^very cool, you should make a sound clip of it.

^very cool, you should make a sound clip of it.


how do i do that???

how do i do that???:lol:.......with a video camera :slap:

lol dont got one but i will see if i can use the camera and if i can get thsoe damn pics off it to

lol dont got one but i will see if i can use the camera and if i can get thsoe damn pics off it toOhh ok well if you get your hands on one be sure to make a sound clip and post some pictures of everything else.

a 00' 2.2L cav exhaust will fit nice on a 00' 2.2L sunfire right?

a 00' 2.2L cav exhaust will fit nice on a 00' 2.2L sunfire right?..correct.

k i got a camera now i just need to get the video off it and all the sound quality is descent lol

k i got a camera now i just need to get the video off it and all the sound quality is descent lolshit that was quick lol

lol probably bored

that too and i skippe scholl today so i am abit bored and just downloading pics and vid to comp one sec

that too and i skippe scholl today so i am abit bored and just downloading pics and vid to comp one secahhh the days of skipping school lol skip it thinking it will be nice only to find out its completly boring!! get those damn vids up now!! lol jk

haha lol i remember having co-op my senior year. get out at 10:50 and then use a vacation day at work and chill. still get my day in at school and still get paid for work

k well the sound quality is shit so me compared to what it sounds like in person but here i was try get these pics and up right away