ABS - Sensor
DRW1000
08-14-2006, 06:29 PM
My ABS light has been on for a while. I did a brake job over the weekend and while I was under the car I decided to measure the resistance of each wheel sensor.
3 of the 4 were just under 2000 ohms. The LR was an open circuit. I removed the sensor and the case where the coil is located is damaged and cracked and obviously the cause of my discontinuity.
I am travelling the the US and I would like to know where a good place to purchase a replacement might be. Here (in Toronto) my options are limited to mail order or Ford. I haven't checked the price at Ford but on line it was going to run about $40 US including shipping from Fordparts.com.
It seems like parts are less expensive in the US. Are Pep Boys, or Autozones good choices? Does anyone know what the price for a sensor at Ford in the US is?
Does anyone know what the gap between the sensor and the toothed ring is? I would think that there is a spec somewhere. It certainly is not in my Haynes.
Thanks
3 of the 4 were just under 2000 ohms. The LR was an open circuit. I removed the sensor and the case where the coil is located is damaged and cracked and obviously the cause of my discontinuity.
I am travelling the the US and I would like to know where a good place to purchase a replacement might be. Here (in Toronto) my options are limited to mail order or Ford. I haven't checked the price at Ford but on line it was going to run about $40 US including shipping from Fordparts.com.
It seems like parts are less expensive in the US. Are Pep Boys, or Autozones good choices? Does anyone know what the price for a sensor at Ford in the US is?
Does anyone know what the gap between the sensor and the toothed ring is? I would think that there is a spec somewhere. It certainly is not in my Haynes.
Thanks
pitteach
08-14-2006, 09:23 PM
I replaced the rear sensor on my 2000 about a year and a half ago. I recall that Autozone did not carry the sensors at that time, so I had to go to the local dealer and paid $41 +tax. I don't know which way you're coming into the States, but I'm in the Buffalo area. If you are coming this way, I could call around and get some prices for you. Let me know.
When I put the sensor on I recall spending some time cleaning up the mounting surface of rust and corrosion in order to make sure that the gap was met.
I just checked out a couple things: rockauto.com has motorcraft sensors for about $35 but shipping is about $7 or $8 (maybe more to Canada), Autozone does not carry them, Pep Boys- I don't care for, and Advance Auto has aftermarkets for closer to $50 before tax. So, believe it or not, the dealership might just be the best bet.
When I put the sensor on I recall spending some time cleaning up the mounting surface of rust and corrosion in order to make sure that the gap was met.
I just checked out a couple things: rockauto.com has motorcraft sensors for about $35 but shipping is about $7 or $8 (maybe more to Canada), Autozone does not carry them, Pep Boys- I don't care for, and Advance Auto has aftermarkets for closer to $50 before tax. So, believe it or not, the dealership might just be the best bet.
DRW1000
08-14-2006, 09:49 PM
Hi Pitteach,
Go Sabres!
Perhaps these sensors are not as readily available as I thought. I tried Canadian tire, Napa-online and I couldn't find them on the Autozone site. Thanks but don't spend any time I will just price Ford Canada and and compare it to the US Price. The taxes are better south too. Thanks again for the offer.
I always go through Buffalo. Great city. Gotta stop for an order of wings!
Go Sabres!
Perhaps these sensors are not as readily available as I thought. I tried Canadian tire, Napa-online and I couldn't find them on the Autozone site. Thanks but don't spend any time I will just price Ford Canada and and compare it to the US Price. The taxes are better south too. Thanks again for the offer.
I always go through Buffalo. Great city. Gotta stop for an order of wings!
pitteach
08-14-2006, 09:56 PM
I just checked out a couple things: rockauto.com has motorcraft sensors for about $35 but shipping is about $7 or $8 (maybe more to Canada), Autozone does not carry them, Pep Boys- I don't care for, and Advance Auto has aftermarkets for closer to $50 before tax. So, believe it or not, the dealership might just be the best bet.
Go Leafs Go!
Next time you come through let me know. There's a little place up the road from me with wings that will knock your socks off.
Go Leafs Go!
Next time you come through let me know. There's a little place up the road from me with wings that will knock your socks off.
DRW1000
08-14-2006, 10:02 PM
Thanks. My theory is that Ford up here will be $80 + 14% CDN.
pitteach
08-14-2006, 10:04 PM
teamfordparts.com = $30 + shipping
brinkz
08-14-2006, 10:09 PM
drw I have never used Rock auto myself, but they will ship to canada....you should check the site out....http://www.rockauto.com/ After you factor in the shipping and exchange rate, may or may not be worth it...
By the way where are you in Canada?
By the way where are you in Canada?
DRW1000
08-14-2006, 11:26 PM
drw I have never used Rock auto myself, but they will ship to canada....you should check the site out....http://www.rockauto.com/ After you factor in the shipping and exchange rate, may or may not be worth it...
By the way where are you in Canada?
Rockauto has them for $29.95 (I think) and 10 for shipping. About the same as Ford ($41.95). I am in Mississauga (west of Toronto).
By the way where are you in Canada?
Rockauto has them for $29.95 (I think) and 10 for shipping. About the same as Ford ($41.95). I am in Mississauga (west of Toronto).
brinkz
08-15-2006, 10:51 AM
that's cool I am in Trenton, about 200 k from TO.
I notice your name comes up alot in this forums....slew of problems...my winnie definatly has issues...some of wich i wish i had the money to fix....Like my cam sensor....anyway good luck with the abs issue....
I notice your name comes up alot in this forums....slew of problems...my winnie definatly has issues...some of wich i wish i had the money to fix....Like my cam sensor....anyway good luck with the abs issue....
DRW1000
08-15-2006, 11:48 AM
that's cool I am in Trenton, about 200 k from TO.
I notice your name comes up alot in this forums....slew of problems...my winnie definatly has issues...some of wich i wish i had the money to fix....Like my cam sensor....anyway good luck with the abs issue....
I figure that by doing the labour myself I am able to address more issues from a financial point of view. I could not afford to pay someone to do all of the necessary repairs and maintenance.
This ABS issue has been shelved for about 18 months.
I notice your name comes up alot in this forums....slew of problems...my winnie definatly has issues...some of wich i wish i had the money to fix....Like my cam sensor....anyway good luck with the abs issue....
I figure that by doing the labour myself I am able to address more issues from a financial point of view. I could not afford to pay someone to do all of the necessary repairs and maintenance.
This ABS issue has been shelved for about 18 months.
DRW1000
08-16-2006, 05:53 PM
I priced the sensors at 2 Ford dealers. 45.78 + Tax Canadian from one dealer. This is in-line with the $41 US Pitteach got in Buffalo. Maybe even a bit better with the exchange.
Here is the kicker. Another Ford dealer quoted me $105 ish. (I stopped listening after I heard hundred). I am astonished that there could be this much of a difference between dealers and that they are allowed to move that much from whatever the list price is.
I did not comment to them at the time and I am going to try them one more time to ensure that there was no misunderstanding of the part I needed or the quantity. I will make some serious noise if this is in fact the price they are trying to get me to pay. Of course this is the same dealer that asked me for $7.25 for a litre of Mercon V where 10 feet away from the parts counter was a dsiplay with a sticker of $ 4.09.
On a different note:
Does anyone know if there is a quoted clearance between the sensor and the toothed ring? I asked the guy at the counter and he said no but the sensor clearly has a slot meaning it is intended to be adjusted into position.
Here is the kicker. Another Ford dealer quoted me $105 ish. (I stopped listening after I heard hundred). I am astonished that there could be this much of a difference between dealers and that they are allowed to move that much from whatever the list price is.
I did not comment to them at the time and I am going to try them one more time to ensure that there was no misunderstanding of the part I needed or the quantity. I will make some serious noise if this is in fact the price they are trying to get me to pay. Of course this is the same dealer that asked me for $7.25 for a litre of Mercon V where 10 feet away from the parts counter was a dsiplay with a sticker of $ 4.09.
On a different note:
Does anyone know if there is a quoted clearance between the sensor and the toothed ring? I asked the guy at the counter and he said no but the sensor clearly has a slot meaning it is intended to be adjusted into position.
way2old
08-16-2006, 07:22 PM
Most Ford products are at about .038 inch. I would start there. I will try to remember to look at manual at shop tomorrow
LeSabre97mint
08-16-2006, 10:23 PM
DRW1000
When I cleaned my rear sensors and put them back in, I got it as close to the sensor ring without it touching. It seems to work this way.
Regards
Dan
When I cleaned my rear sensors and put them back in, I got it as close to the sensor ring without it touching. It seems to work this way.
Regards
Dan
DRW1000
08-16-2006, 10:45 PM
Thanks all! I will check in when I get it working - sooner if I don't.
Dan - Exactly what I was thinking about doing.
Way2 - Great if you can remember to check and thanks.
Dan - Exactly what I was thinking about doing.
Way2 - Great if you can remember to check and thanks.
way2old
08-17-2006, 03:40 PM
Looked in manual and all it tells is how to remove and replace the sensor and do the tests on sensors. There is no specifications for air gap. You may want to measure the other gaps and match the replacement with the others.
TheUkrainian
08-17-2006, 06:01 PM
Hi, i have a 2000 Windstar and our Abs light also comes on after driving for a while. We took it to a local mechanic who hooked it up to a computer and we got the following codes: 1185 1198 1194 1254 1246 1250 1242 1214 1210. Does anyone know what they mean, and if so can you give me a link to it. The mechanic said that one of the problems could be a relay in module but that costs 500$ so he told us to take it to the dealer (were going tomorrow) to make sure because he doesnt want to charge us 500$ and it not be fixed (he didnt charge anything for looking at it either...:)) I will update on what the dealer said tomorrow. Other than the ABS we havent had any problems on our van...its going great
way2old
08-17-2006, 07:22 PM
All the codes you posted leads to the ABS control module or a wiring concern going to the module. If all the wires are in good shape, no corrosion, opens, shorts(to power or ground), nicks or chafes, then the problem probably lies in the module. All the codes refer to inlet or outlet valves in the module. Good luck with it.
DRW1000
08-17-2006, 10:01 PM
Adding on to what Way2old was saying. The first thing I would do is check the fuse and then voltage at the module. If there is no power than look for all of the items Way2old suggested - looking for any reason the power is not getting there. If the power is at the connector then blame the module
DRW1000
09-02-2006, 10:27 PM
I just got back from my vacation and the new LR sensor solved the problem. The resistance measurement was how I found my bad sensor. I have had my ABS light on for well over a year.
Actually I am happier that the dashboard light is off more than that the ABS system operation.
Actually I am happier that the dashboard light is off more than that the ABS system operation.
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