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Nitrous + Supercharger...safe?


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my99cavy
08-16-2006, 08:11 PM
IMO if I was choosing one I would definatley go with a turbo. You can get more power from them (I know its not alot but still) and I just think there better. mainly because of the awesome BOV.:iceslolan

EDIT: heres a pretty good read on both a super and turbo charger http://www.automotivearticles.com/printer_Supercharger_vs_Turbocharger_.shtml
and another one www.howstuffworks.com/question122.htm (http://www.howstuffworks.com/question122.htm)

Derk_eliso
08-16-2006, 11:19 PM
have you ever heard of an electronic supercharger? Instead of being powered by a belt to the engine it's powered obviously by the car's battery. With a switch being hooked up and mounted in the "cockpit" that's so a crappy name for Behind the wheel, lol. You think good or bad choice? please no slamming, it's just a question, lol.

jakegday
08-16-2006, 11:34 PM
bad choice, they are worthless, they dont do shit, seriously, they dont even give you 1 extra horsepower, not even 1, you'd be better off buying a warm air intake

Derk_eliso
08-17-2006, 12:20 AM
bad choice, they are worthless, they dont do shit, seriously, they dont even give you 1 extra horsepower, not even 1, you'd be better off buying a warm air intake

You seem pretty sure about that...bad expirence?

jakegday
08-17-2006, 08:26 AM
lol, no actually, just common sense mostly, and reading about them on this site

angels_cavalier
08-17-2006, 10:19 AM
then why do they advertise them in superstreet? I seen it advertised in there and it looked pretty good. said it will give you a pound of boost. www.electricsupercgarger.com (http://www.electricsupercgarger.com)

Cavalier2000
08-17-2006, 01:07 PM
there are good electric super chargers but you have to have so many battery's that it is not worth it. it is more like a hard shot of nitrous,

now-a-days, there is not tooo too much turbo lag, not like a few years ago, they just keep making them better, but of course if you have a huge turbo and thats is were majority of your power is comming from then yea your going to have a lag

my99cavy
08-17-2006, 02:47 PM
electronic turbo/supercharger= GARBAGE!!! just stay away from them they are junk.

angels_cavalier
08-17-2006, 04:15 PM
www.electricsupercharger.com (http://www.electricsupercharger.com)
sorry i screwed the site up. well they have dyno sheets to prove thier theory. so its only 10 -20 extra hp.

my99cavy
08-17-2006, 04:22 PM
www.electricsupercharger.com (http://www.electricsupercharger.com)
sorry i screwed the site up. well they have dyno sheets to prove thier theory. so its only 10 -20 extra hp.I dont care what they say IMO they still are shit. :)

Cavalier2000
08-17-2006, 04:36 PM
not worth the hassle really, most of them that add real hp end up robbing so much on the electrical system that it just makes life hell

jakegday
08-17-2006, 07:01 PM
www.electricsupercharger.com (http://www.electricsupercharger.com)
sorry i screwed the site up. well they have dyno sheets to prove thier theory. so its only 10 -20 extra hp.

so does turbonator.com and they're fucking worthless too, you cant believe everything you hear, no matter where you hear it....

there is no such thing as a good electric supercharger, a normal supercharger takes about 20-30hp away from your engine to operate, so for an electric supercharger to be effective, it'd need a 20-30 hp motor, you apparently (not being mean here) dont know alot about electric motors, but a motor that big would be about a foot wide and a foot and a half long, and it would run on 480 volts, 3 phase, (MAYBE 240-220 volts, but i doubt it) definetely not 12 however, and it sure as HELL would not fit inside your intake piping

my99cavy
08-17-2006, 07:07 PM
so does turbonator.com and they're fucking worthless too, you cant believe everything you hear, no matter where you hear it....

there is no such thing as a good electric supercharger, a normal supercharger takes about 20-30hp away from your engine to operate, so for an electric supercharger to be effective, it'd need a 20-30 hp motor, you apparently (not being mean here) dont know alot about electric motors, but a motor that big would be about a footwide and a foot and a half long, and it would run on 480 volts, 3 phase, (MAYBE 220 volts, but i doubt it) definetely not 12 however, and it sure as HELL would not fit inside your intake piping:1:

Derk_eliso
08-17-2006, 07:14 PM
hmm...okay

Cavalier2000
08-18-2006, 08:49 AM
i have 14 of turbonators, producing like 500whp

jakegday
08-18-2006, 08:54 AM
14 of turbonators??

i also call bullshit, i bet your making maybe a hair over 400

Cavalier2000
08-18-2006, 10:31 AM
well i do have 27 tornado's which make another 12 hp and the the blow-off valve exhaust tip gets the rest of the 88

my99cavy
08-18-2006, 11:22 AM
well i do have 27 tornado's which make another 12 hp and the the blow-off valve exhaust tip gets the rest of the 88:rofl: :rofl: fuckin steve over here being a wise guy lol

Cavalier2000
08-18-2006, 11:26 AM
hell that is just motor and exhaust, i have all those nos stickers as well that i need to put on and the nopi sticker, shit i will be well of 700whp then

my99cavy
08-18-2006, 11:27 AM
Man you forgot about about all the Vtec and APC stickers :lol:

Cavalier2000
08-18-2006, 12:15 PM
lol yea yea yea forgot about that and since I got racing strips thats ads another 50-60whp

MrR0b0t0
08-18-2006, 05:32 PM
Daaaammm, all you need now are some altezzas and you could be rockin almost 900

my99cavy
08-18-2006, 05:33 PM
and then one of those wings that are made from gutter aluminum :lol:

Cavalier2000
08-18-2006, 05:35 PM
lol

my99cavy
08-18-2006, 06:02 PM
oh yeah and also dont forget about the stick on hood scoops :lol: those have to add at least 10-15 horse lol

Cavalier2000
08-18-2006, 06:05 PM
and a roof scoop

my99cavy
08-18-2006, 06:06 PM
lets not forget about spinner hubcaps. now those REALLY ass the horsepower

Cavalier2000
08-18-2006, 06:08 PM
and curb markers, shit http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a6/cavalier2000/Faces/hijacked.gif

my99cavy
08-18-2006, 06:16 PM
curb markers are the same thing as curb feelings correct? lol also lets not forget about the exhaust tips that are about 6 inches wide that look like they belong on a diesel truck lol

Derk_eliso
08-19-2006, 09:25 PM
for the record, I filled my nitrous tank today....and installed it...yeah. whoa is all I have to say, imagine me with like a larger tank, and like a larger flow tube thingy...yeah that would rock. Pictures coming soon...I don't have my own camera I have to borrow alot... :)

my99cavy
08-21-2006, 11:48 AM
for the record, I filled my nitrous tank today....and installed it...yeah. whoa is all I have to say, imagine me with like a larger tank, and like a larger flow tube thingy...yeah that would rock. Pictures coming soon...I don't have my own camera I have to borrow alot... :)so you have NOS huh??? did you upgrade anything else under the hood?? or are you running the NOS with everything stock??

Cavalier2000
08-21-2006, 12:45 PM
you can run nos on a stock motor, 50 at best though, exhaust would help that nos along nicely though

Derk_eliso
08-21-2006, 07:16 PM
in about 2 weeks, I'll have everything I want..hopefully. I'm ordering a new header-back exhaust set up, projectors, body kit, Z3 fenders, new gauge cluster, white neons, my subs that I need, and a larger nitrous tank prolly NX 10 pounder....(back to school refund, lol).... and oh, I have a sneaky pete right now, It makes a difference but not like a huge huge difference. I need a bigger set-up, i think it's like a 35 shot maybe?...if that's possible, lol....i just wanted to see if it would actually work...and yes it does, lol.

my99cavy
08-21-2006, 07:24 PM
in about 2 weeks, I'll have everything I want..hopefully. I'm ordering a new header-back exhaust set up, projectors, body kit, Z3 fenders, new gauge cluster, white neons, my subs that I need, and a larger nitrous tank prolly NX 10 pounder....(back to school refund, lol).... and oh, I have a sneaky pete right now, It makes a difference but not like a huge huge difference. I need a bigger set-up, i think it's like a 35 shot maybe?...if that's possible, lol....i just wanted to see if it would actually work...and yes it does, lol.shit sounds like once you have everything and put it all on the car it should look pretty nice. looking forward to seeing some pics eventually lol

Derk_eliso
08-21-2006, 07:27 PM
yeah the time will come, oh I'm venturing to put the kit on and paint it myself...by myself I mean, me and my friends and one of his grandpas who used to own a body shop...and all I have to do in return is help him with his when he gets it..he has an 01 eclipse, which is pretty nice!!!...sorry. anyway yeah man definetly pics coming, I've almost got the interior where I want it. I'm going to leave my doors off until I finish painting, and after that all i need to do it some touch ups and a coat of clear coat and you can stick a fork in her. Oh I hope I don't ever sell this car, cuz I totally messed my visors up when I put them back up...shhh don't tell anybody, lol.

Classicrocjunkie
08-21-2006, 10:32 PM
yeah the time will come, oh I'm venturing to put the kit on and paint it myself...by myself I mean, me and my friends and one of his grandpas who used to own a body shop...and all I have to do in return is help him with his when he gets it..he has an 01 eclipse, which is pretty nice!!!...sorry. anyway yeah man definetly pics coming, I've almost got the interior where I want it. I'm going to leave my doors off until I finish painting, and after that all i need to do it some touch ups and a coat of clear coat and you can stick a fork in her. Oh I hope I don't ever sell this car, cuz I totally messed my visors up when I put them back up...shhh don't tell anybody, lol.

Your honestly going to have one hell of a time trying to sell your car with your interrior parts all painted. Unless you find another kid willing to take on your project. Not many people want to deal with a modified car. Just telling you my own experience.

my99cavy
08-22-2006, 02:15 PM
Your honestly going to have one hell of a time trying to sell your car with your interrior parts all painted. Unless you find another kid willing to take on your project. Not many people want to deal with a modified car. Just telling you my own experience.Yeah I know its a bitch to sell a modified car. Good buyers for those kind of cars are young kids and mexicans. for some reason they just love um lol well at least by me they do.:grinno:

Derk_eliso
08-22-2006, 03:15 PM
i told my buddy, that i've always wanted a firebird, ever since I was a little kid. So i was going to play with this car for a little bit and then sell it and try to get a firebird...but then he's like "yeah right you'll put all this money into it, put your body kit on it and you won't wanna sell it, and i was like yeah you're prolly right, lol"...

my99cavy
08-22-2006, 03:22 PM
Who knows maybe your not going to ever get rid of the car. With my cavy I plan on keeping it for as long as I can,dont plan on getting rid of it ever. I also have my mustang so I could always sell that and get something else.

Cavalier2000
08-22-2006, 04:20 PM
go ahead a sell the mustang and then take the money from that and put it into your cav lol

my99cavy
08-22-2006, 04:23 PM
go ahead a sell the mustang and then take the money from that and put it into your cav lol :grinyes: yeah that would probably be a good idea but I need it to get to work. so selling it before the cavy is fixed wouldnt be a good idea.

Cavalier2000
08-22-2006, 04:31 PM
catch the bus lol

my99cavy
08-22-2006, 04:42 PM
Nah I think I"ll pass on that one steve :lol:

Derk_eliso
08-22-2006, 04:49 PM
never really liked mustangs, too...I dunno, everybody has one...then again, There are like 1 out of every 10 cars I see in my town is a cavalier. I was sitting on the picnic table at work one day and counted 5 cavys in the parking lot....

my99cavy
08-22-2006, 04:59 PM
never really liked mustangs, too...I dunno, everybody has one...then again, There are like 1 out of every 10 cars I see in my town is a cavalier. I was sitting on the picnic table at work one day and counted 5 cavys in the parking lot....Yeah cavys and mustangs are a very popular car nowadays if you ask me. on my street there are 4 houses IN A ROW that own a cavalier including myself. lol

Cavalier2000
08-23-2006, 08:40 AM
yea but how many of those cavaliers have something done to them

my99cavy
08-23-2006, 09:02 AM
yea but how many of those cavaliers have something done to themThe only one with something done to their cav is mine :grinyes: the rest of them are owned by old farts. :)

Cavalier2000
08-23-2006, 01:11 PM
yea i know that feeling

Derk_eliso
08-23-2006, 02:59 PM
the old fart aka my mother has one parked next to me in the garage, and on top of that my girlfriend has an older style one too...figure that one out, lol.

my99cavy
08-23-2006, 03:07 PM
So its safe to say that the cavalier is a VERY popular car.:)

Derk_eliso
08-23-2006, 05:06 PM
my friend wouldn't let his girlfriend get one b/c he said "they were the car with the worst safety rating" and i was like "yeah that's b/c everybody and their mother and their girlfriend have one, lol." Plus they.. by they I mean their family, have three!!! two 99's and an 01. Black, gold and silver.... Don't ask why.

Cavalier2000
08-23-2006, 05:33 PM
Don't ask why.
Why...

Derk_eliso
08-23-2006, 06:35 PM
b/c he wanted you to ask why, and now he's succeeded, good job dorkus.!! lol

Cavalier2000
08-23-2006, 07:18 PM
lol i try to be a pain

my99cavy
08-23-2006, 07:21 PM
lol i try to be a pain:iagree:

Derk_eliso
08-24-2006, 03:26 PM
what's the purpose of an exhaust flange?

i.e....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=7992442884&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT

my99cavy
08-24-2006, 03:30 PM
Pretty much an exhaust flange hold all your header pipes together. The one you posted is obviously for making a custom application.

Derk_eliso
08-24-2006, 03:33 PM
so, I don't need one if I just buy a new header correct?

Derk_eliso
08-24-2006, 03:34 PM
ohhhh!!!! okay I get it, lol wow I'm dumb.

my99cavy
08-24-2006, 03:36 PM
ohhhh!!!! okay I get it, lol wow I'm dumb.haha :slap: yeah your header will come with it already on, and if it doesnt lol, there is really something wrong with the company.

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