cobalt SS sc or srt-4???

don't believe you can make skyline street legal anymore.
heh, my bros got one..

^ he prolly got it before this "law" or whatever was passed.

no why wouldnt you be able to make a skyline street legal??? i've seen a handful of them on the roads.

dont ask me, i didnt make this law that cavalier2000 is talking about.

dont ask me, i didnt make this law that cavalier2000 is talking about.:rofl: :rofl:

???

???:dunno: really dont know lol

According to the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department, the owner of Motorex, Nanahoshi Hiroaki, 33, was arrested Thursday and booked into the L.A. County Jail. He is being held on $1 Million bail.

Hiroaki's initial appearance is scheduled for Wednesday of this week.

Hiroaki and Motorex came to the recognition of Nissan enthusiasts in the US as they became the only Registered Importer legally authorized to legalize Skylines for US use. As Motorex was able to comply with stringent US crash-testing requirements, they petitioned the courts to protect their interest in the Skyline market by "locking out" other would-be importers from the list of necessary modifications.

Not only did this give Motorex a corner on the market for legal Skylines, it also allowed them to command a premium price for each legalized car. Motorex-prepped Skylines can fetch upwards of $50,000. While making loads of money, Motorex also made loads of enemies.

According to sources, the lease to the Motorex facility has been overdue for months, and is now locked out by the landlord.

The US Department of Transportation has offically rescinded importation eligibility for both the R32 and R34 Skylines, only 96-98 R33 Skylines are still eligible to be imported.

http://nicoclub.com/news.shtml

more:
Motorex asserted that R32 / R33 / R34's were 'all the same' from the standpoint of certifying them for the US. In truth, each version need to be tested and federalized. He duped the Feds (allegedly). Certification for R32's & R34's has been rescinded.

and still more:
Hiro's been thrown in jail on 'apparantly' unrelated charges. Here is a site that a lawyer/friend of mine threw together three days ago when we first found out about it (he has been dealing with the MotoRex mess for YEARS): http://thenittygrittyfiles.org/hirofiles

The charges are:

Attempted Extortion
Attempted Kidnapping
Assault w/ Deadly Weapon
Assault w/ Stun Gun or Taser
Threatening a Witness.

By the way, MotoRex lost its status as a Registered Importer a very long time ago. Their website and their facility in CA was turned over to C-West USA some months back.

info taken from here: http://forums.clubsi.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=6588555&an=0&page=0



Fuck.....


well you can always wait till 2007 and pic up one of the legal ones..

http://www.automotivearticles.com/uploads/image_017.jpg

But thats going to cost just as bad as an acura NSX..
:(

man that really sucks.:banghead: so any skyline pre 2007 is not street legal?? and yeah that '07 skyline is going to cost a big pretty penny lol

^ oh yeah, whats the price gonna be?

^^ Unless you can find one already registerd before, or say its for " track purpose only". If you have the title, vin #, and all that shit. I honestly don't see why you couldn't register one. I know i could get around the state inspection in my state since i know people like i did with my cavalier. But i honestly don't have the cash to afford and mod a skyline anyway. Nismo parts are a bundle. I'll stick to my econo box.

torque doesn't get you to higher speeds faster it a rating at which the engine can twist which is called torsion hence torque. power gets you speeds faster, hence my example about the 2nd gen versus the 3rd gen the 3rd gen is fater. so how is the car with more torque getting to a higher speed faster? even more perfect example. take a Diesel car with 110 hp and gas car with 125 hp both weighing the same. the Diesel will always have way more torque and is hence why semi's use them and tractors and farm equipment in order to moce the weight. The gas car, even if the torque of the deisel was twice the gas car will be slower. If you really think torque is where it's at, look at a 2004 Jetta GLi 2.0, 115hp 122tq versus a 2004 Jetta TDI 90hp 155tq. the 2.0 0-60 in 10.8 the TDI 11.2. So the car with less toque is slower! It may tow a trailer better and get great mileage, but faster it aint

as for Japanese cars 15 years or more old most of the time you can get away with it as it then doesn't need to be modified for road use. I'd rather a Pulsar GTi-R 221 hp AWD little 3 door hatch only a little bigger than a Chevy (Daewoo) Aveo. They surprise the shite out of anyone!

well from what i hear its going to cost somewhere around $70k in america. and i also heard thats with an infinity badge on it???? correct me if im wrong.

WTF!!!! $70K. thats a titty bit high if you ask me.

i dont back the touque is how fast your car moes HP is just bragging rights comment, i just know ive heard it before. but i do think its a pretty big difference between the S2K and the SRT-4

and yet we fail to look at insurance rates

(AAA <-----my insurance company) ratesa dodge neon "sartie" in the class of "4 Door Family Sedans" and im 99.9% sure it costs a hell of alot less than an S2000 would for insurance...:owned:

yeah I also think that the difference in torque between the s2k and srt-4 is big.

Yeah, the insurance would deffinately be lower on an srt-4.

As for the 07 skyline, GAY, it's not even a skyline anymore, it's an over priced Infinity on steroids.

yeah you get away with the lower insurance with the srt-4 cuz of the 4-door family car. haha gotta love it

As for the 07 skyline, GAY, it's not even a skyline anymore, it's an over priced Infinity on steroids.
I'm starting to think the same thing.

As for the 07 skyline, GAY, it's not even a skyline anymore, it's an over priced Infinity on steroids.yeah i knew there was something about it having an infinity badge on it when it comes over here. very :gay: lol

man i missed alot

man i missed alotyeah i know if you dont get on for a couple hours alot of shit goes on :lol: including the topic changing every 10 minutes lol

10 nothing lol

yeah you get away with the lower insurance with the srt-4 cuz of the 4-door family car. haha gotta love it

Thats what you think.... I paid last year $1,700 /year for my PT cruiser Limited Edition with full coverage under my parents and my driving record is clean for 4 years. When i test drove the SRT-4 i sat down with the guy and told him if my insurace wouldn't go up i would sign the dotted line. ( knowing it would i was safe) The insurance company quoted me my rate would go $800 bucks a year. My PT cruiser has the same 2.4L engine minus turbo and 4 doors and same sticker price as an SRT-4. ( I still have the window sticker and it was $24,689)

Be ready for a shocker man. Anthing thats a GO-FAST mobile, the insurance companies know about them.

Also seeing your 18 yrs old.... grab some lube cause your going to need it as they will bend you over and if you want one bad enough, they will stick it to you. My friend with 3 tickets, 1 from street racing got quoted 5,000 a year for same insurance.

te GT-r Which wont be a Skyline just GT-R will have about 550hp from the VQ35DETT, that's a 3.5 litre twin turbo v6. It's more of a supercar hance the pricetag

lol 19 (almost 20) clean driving record except for 1 DTP Ticket and right now i pay 1000, i got a quote for 1200 a year...:) suck it! lol jk

lol 19 (almost 20) clean driving record except for 1 DTP Ticket and right now i pay 1000, i got a quote for 1200 a year...:) suck it! lol jk1200 a year for what?? if you had an srt-4?? thats not a bad price at all.

^ not bad AT ALL!

dude...thats an excellent price...lol

In all honesty the srt-4 and the cobalt ss were tested against eachother in a road and track cobalt ss was rated around 205 hp and the srt-4 was around 245. the sad part is that the cobalt beat the neon hands down...out preformed the neon in almost every field. I have driven both cars, and i like the power the neon has, but i like the overall of the ss. go the ss stay chevy!

The SRT-4 has more torque steer than the Cobalt SS, which makes the Cobalt better in the corners. I dont like the Cobalt, only because it looks too stock for me. I'd say SRT-4 because it would be more fun to drive. I'd forget the both of them and get the MiniCooper S. It would prolly spank the both of them.

In all honesty the srt-4 and the cobalt ss were tested against eachother in a road and track cobalt ss was rated around 205 hp and the srt-4 was around 245. the sad part is that the cobalt beat the neon hands down...out preformed the neon in almost every field. I have driven both cars, and i like the power the neon has, but i like the overall of the ss. go the ss stay chevy!

I know!!! Its like dodge fucking rates their HP in Goat Power.. :screwy:

"Yeah we got 245 mean goats wanting to unleash their power in this here new SRT-4!!" pfft..

^ as my cousin would say, 245 horses is a hell of a lot of turtles. lol

In all honesty the srt-4 and the cobalt ss were tested against eachother in a road and track cobalt ss was rated around 205 hp and the srt-4 was around 245. the sad part is that the cobalt beat the neon hands down...out preformed the neon in almost every field. I have driven both cars, and i like the power the neon has, but i like the overall of the ss. go the ss stay chevy!really? cuz i had a magazine from either car and driver or something of that sort and they testes the srt-4, cobalt SS, acura rsx, and i think one other car and the srt-4 either came in second of first. i think the RSX finished first. if i could dig up the magazine i will and double check.

every test i have seen puts the SRT on top, I know motor trend for sure and they had a diagram of the torque steer, both car with lsd and the Cobalt was twice as bacd as the SRT.

Alos Mini Cooper S only has 160hp and isn't that fast it's like 8.1 seconds 0-60 if a remeber rightly but would muller both the SRT and the Slobalt around any corner!

every test i have seen puts the SRT on top, I know motor trend for sure and they had a diagram of the torque steer, both car with lsd and the Cobalt was twice as bacd as the SRT.

Alos Mini Cooper S only has 160hp and isn't that fast it's like 8.1 seconds 0-60 if a remeber rightly but would muller both the SRT and the Slobalt around any corner!yeah thats what i thought. the SRT is always on top in that group. i couldnt see myself driving a mini pooper let alone owning one. also like the nickname slobalt :lol:

every test i have seen puts the SRT on top
same here.

i like being on top........

i like being on top........:lol: :lol: oh shit watch out funny guy over here. top, bottom dont matter either way i please my women. :grinyes:

i like being on top........
HI-OH!

:lol: :lol: oh shit watch out funny guy over here. top, bottom dont matter either way i please my women. :grinyes:

top, bottom, front, back, lol:nono:

top, bottom, front, back, lol:nono:hahha oops forgot about those ones. :banghead:

Ok enough reading the sex talk by virgins (joking) and back to the subject. I think I remember the cobalt winning in one catagorey but i don't remember which. Other than that the RSX type S and SRT tore up the cobalt!

i agree and whoever said they would spank the SRT-4 with a mini cooper is a joke...lol the SRT has 50+ more WHP thent he mini and isnt that much lighter then the SRT either...god look up stats before you make dumb comments :banghead:

and the SRT makes about 197829481 TurtlePower... about 197829172 WTP (wheel TurtlePower)? lol

i agree and whoever said they would spank the SRT-4 with a mini cooper is a joke...lol the SRT has 50+ more WHP thent he mini and isnt that much lighter then the SRT either...god look up stats before you make dumb comments :banghead:

and the SRT makes about 197829481 TurtlePower... about 197829172 WTP (wheel TurtlePower)? lolyeah i know i would like to see a mini pooper spank a SRT. i highly doubt it.

you guys talking about base mini's or boosted?

the Cooper S is Supercharged and has a 1.6 and puts out 160hp

That's pathetic considering z24's put out 10hp less (not much) on a n/a engine.

well if you are still deciding on what to buy, get a Toyota Supra single turbo, they are chhep and make GOOD hp. I had a 87 Toyota supra trubo 5 speed and with a bigger intercooler,boost controler,exhaust and a bigger down pipe i was making over 300hp!!! fast little thing. The single turbo are from 87-93 i think, it may be 92, not quite shure. But the 3.0 in them is a inline 6 that will run forever!! The 300gt vr4's are fast and nice also!! Now if you want a car with real power get a 02 ws6 t/a!!!

I had mentioned getting a MiniCooper S because I think it would be faster on the track. 0-60 times mean nothing to me. I want to see how well the car does on a track. So I figured the 160hp would be enough to get the mini going pretty fast since it is a bit lighter. And I'm sure it does better in the corners. So I guess I should have used a better term than spank. I'd still take the Mini though, its built better than SRT-4 and Chevy. And it would corner better. The other thing you guys have to keep in mind the mini is supercharged, all the boost is always at max at any given rpm. So with the mini being ligher, and making more hp at lower rpms, it would get off the line pretty fast, but then a SRT-4 would prolly catch it. IMO Supercharged is the way to go.

Who needs cornering? Most of the racing I'm sure he'll be doing is on a strip. And I'm sorry but Srt4 215hp / Mini Cooper S 160hp? Please, there's no contest there, I dont give a damn how much lighter the Cooper is, I should be smacked for even thinking about comparing the two.

hahha the mini is a pieace of shit i killed on the other day granted it mite have had something to do wit the drivers hah but still the mini is nothing the mini had exhaust on it like i did

yeah grant it the cooper is lighter but im still sure that the SRT would take that lil thing any day.

have any of u actually raced an SRT-4?? cause i have and yea it would DEFINITELY kill a mini and it would def beat an SS i've seen the SS and SRT-4 race and the SRT-4 beat my after 3rd so yea just lettin yall no my experience

The SRT-4 has more torque steer than the Cobalt SS, which makes the Cobalt better in the corners. I dont like the Cobalt, only because it looks too stock for me. I'd say SRT-4 because it would be more fun to drive. I'd forget the both of them and get the MiniCooper S. It would prolly spank the both of them.


I recently raced a mini cooper s at the trck (1/4) and I can say that the mini has alot of low end but in the whole it is not that great. coming off of the line he took me by about half a car length but I beat him by the time i hit third going into fourth.

have any of u actually raced an SRT-4?? cause i have and yea it would DEFINITELY kill a mini and it would def beat an SS i've seen the SS and SRT-4 race and the SRT-4 beat my after 3rd so yea just lettin yall no my experienceyeah i have raced and SRT in the past with my Z. lets just say it didnt turn out very well. lol

yea i was suprised that i had him through 1st and 2nd but then his super kicked in and well that changed quick hahh