Recap of the North American F1 fleet

Great update!
Can't wait for the other important threads to be refreshed...
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Chassis #042 has made an appearance at Club Auto Sport - the same place XP4 is sometimes stored. They had an event there this past weekend called "Bulldogs, Bentleys & Bangers - Celebrating all things British"

A friend sent me this photo he'd found on another friend's Facebook page from the event. Initially it appeared to be #038, but given the small size I couldn't be entirely certain:

http://i43.tinypic.com/2dtt0nc.jpg

Then this photo appeared on Flickr, again looking kind of orange-ish and also tagged with 'Club Auto Sport'. Since I still had #038 on the brain it took me a second to realize that the visual clues in this shot - standard headlamps, roof antenna, interior treatment w/quick-release steering wheel - make it chassis #042 instead, almost without a doubt.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3387/4594491928_7dcfbe328b.jpg
Image by "The Electrician"

I asked the photographer to confirm the chassis number, but he didn't happen to know. He says he has more photos but apparently only plans to share the ones he really thinks are special. Maybe I can beg and plead for him to share copies of the ones he doesn't plan to publish in his gallery, but I'll wait and see what else he ends up sharing before bothering him further about it.

Nice to see this car again though. :)

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ER

Great ! Especially the second angle.

Do you think there will be F1 in Monterey in august ?

Phil

amazing color!

Phil - I've not been told of any that will be in Monterey for sure this year, but its the most likely place to find one in all of North America on an annual basis. Sometimes you even get lucky and find two. (like I did, twice :sunglasse)

Patrick - the color is supposed to be Ferrari's "Rosso Corsa". In previous photos (see page 1) it didn't have that same 'wow' factor, but I'll admit this shot is really quite wonderful. :thumbsup:

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ER

Speaking of Club Auto Sport - these are nice shots, and they get even nicer when you click on them. :cool:

http://www.clubautosport.net/gallery/2009/CHP-11-99/new/IMG_3063.jpg (http://www.clubautosport.net/gallery/2009/CHP-11-99/choosen/IMG_3063.JPG) http://www.clubautosport.net/gallery/2009/CHP-11-99/new/IMG_3084.jpg (http://www.clubautosport.net/gallery/2009/CHP-11-99/choosen/IMG_3084.JPG)

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ER

to post 122: Do you have a higher res picture of that second one? It is absolutely gorgeous!!

Unfortunately this photographer's photos are only available at the default 500x333 size on Flickr.

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ER

Here's another pair of shots of chassis #042 from 'The Electrician' on Flickr:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3335/4602785213_24b754de13.jpg http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1052/4605410777_eeed811262.jpg

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ER

Is that what the interior was like before? I remember more red

I think it is just the angle of that shot. Comparing the earlier images I have it appears things are unchanged inside.

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ER

Found 4 more images of #042, but these are from back in 2006. They look similar to ones most of us have already seen way back when, but these are hires. :cool:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/57/224250887_b70833fabb.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/will_stallard/sets/72157594251088689/)

Click the image to visit the album. :)

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ER

Good find :)

Add another pair from this SmugMug gallery. :)

http://rhesse.smugmug.com/Cars/Wine-Country-Classic-2006/3461969_JWdmn#194576320_3xFvF

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ER

Fairly recent shots of GTR #17R in this gallery from David Haueter:

Smugmug - BMW NA Classic Collection (http://haueter.smugmug.com/Cars/BMW-NA-Classic-Collection/8188413_Cnokx#534914673_zZLct)

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ER

Some photos from the Wine Country Classic last weekend here http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=286678.

A pic of 014 that I'm not sure has been shared before.

http://www.benmayorgaphoto.com/index.html?photo_id=79463

The dimensions look a bit off, if you ask me. Not too sure whether the car was put onto a background, but that's the feeling I get when looking at the lines.

It looked so much better that way.

Not too sure whether the car was put onto a background, but that's the feeling I get when looking at the lines.

Most definitely - the original photo was taken inside the SVAG showroom and then a lot of work was put into it to hide that fact.

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ER

Chassis #028 was displayed at the unveiling of the MP4-12C in Beverly Hills tonight.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20J/th_148302630LG.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20J/148302630LG.jpg)
Photo by BasemWasef

Very kind of Mr Price to loan them his car since he's getting the dealership up North.

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ER

is that Clif's old car

Yes.

http://image.motortrend.com/f/auto-news/just-a-tease-new-mclaren-dealership-previews-mp4-12c-us-spec-sheet-shown/34279812+w100+h62+cr1+re0+ar0/1995-mclaren-f1-front-three-quarters.jpg (http://image.motortrend.com/f/auto-news/just-a-tease-new-mclaren-dealership-previews-mp4-12c-us-spec-sheet-shown/34279812+w750/1995-mclaren-f1-front-three-quarters.jpg) http://image.motortrend.com/f/auto-news/just-a-tease-new-mclaren-dealership-previews-mp4-12c-us-spec-sheet-shown/34279797+w100+h62+cr1+re0+ar0/1995-mclaren-f1-rear-three-quarters.jpg (http://image.motortrend.com/f/auto-news/just-a-tease-new-mclaren-dealership-previews-mp4-12c-us-spec-sheet-shown/34279797+w750/1995-mclaren-f1-rear-three-quarters.jpg)

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ER

only one in red?

Nope, not the only one. There's another red one hidden away in Singapore that has a black interior. Also chassis #004 was originally painted red. I strongly believe it was built for the Brunei Royal Family, but it did not appear on the Brunei garage list and has never been located to my knowledge. There have been rumors over the years of a red one in a private collection in Monaco, and another rumor that Force India team owner, Vijay Mallya, owns it now but nothing more than that. :dunno:

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ER

Is that Singapore one possibly #021? At least it had dark grey or black interior as it was photographed in the Park Lane show room in 1995. Also isn't the #042 currently red with red/black interior?

...but it did not appear on the Brunei garage list...
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ER

Wasn't that list just one of their garages? Like, one fifth of their collection or something?

Or is that considered to be their entire car collection (as of whatever year it was published... What year was it published???)

Is that Singapore one possibly #021? At least it had dark grey or black interior as it was photographed in the Park Lane show room in 1995. Also isn't the #042 currently red with red/black interior?

'Yes' on your first question. 'Duh' on your second point - my brain was only thinking of original cars. :headshake

Wasn't that list just one of their garages? Like, one fifth of their collection or something?

That's how it was explained. So if a car was not in Garage #5 or was in another part of the world it wouldn't have been on that list.

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ER

Updated the first post with new owner info for #062 who introduced himself on another forum. :sunglasse

I also added a spot for the newest F1 to arrive in the USA - chassis #066 which was previously an 'unknown'. So far no photos of it yet, but hopefully we'll get some soon. I'm also hopeful we'll learn something about the car's history.

I made a few other minor tweaks to the text for some of the other chassis numbers just to keep things in line with current info.

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ER

Just looking at the original post again.

Has anything been seen of #19R since it came to the UK?

Incredible info Erik :) It seems #06X series are often expensive :)

Added on McLF1.

Phil

#065 Owner's name TBD - Houston, TX

#066 Owner's name TBD - Houston, TX

Car was purchased by the same owner as chassis #065.



Nice, so another member for the exclusive "Multiple-F1-Ownership"-club?

Correct - one to keep nice and new and one to drive was the story I was told.

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ER

Correct - one to keep nice and new and one to drive was the story I was told.

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ER


Gee, I wonder if I can guess which one will be kept nice, and which one will be driven? :)

#042 was displayed at the Hillsborough Concours in Burlingame, CA.

Here are the only images I've managed to discover - shame about the watermark, but they are still decent shots.

http://teej.smugmug.com/Cars/2010-Hillsborough-Concours/13744573_k4LcK#P-6-10

Also noticed something unique about this car when I looked at them. Anyone else see it?

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ER

#042 was displayed at the Hillsborough Concours in Burlingame, CA.

Here are the only images I've managed to discover - shame about the watermark, but they are still decent shots.

http://teej.smugmug.com/Cars/2010-Hillsborough-Concours/13744573_k4LcK#P-6-10

Also noticed something unique about this car when I looked at them. Anyone else see it?

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ER

^^ The stone chip protection is missing from the lower body area between the wheels, something which it did not have when first built!!

What,s my prize :).

#042 was displayed at the Hillsborough Concours in Burlingame, CA.

Here are the only images I've managed to discover - shame about the watermark, but they are still decent shots.

http://teej.smugmug.com/Cars/2010-Hillsborough-Concours/13744573_k4LcK#P-6-10

Also noticed something unique about this car when I looked at them. Anyone else see it?



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ER

Dang--when was this? Im not too far from there.

What color is #66

Hillsborough Concours was September 12th.

#066 is supposed to look identical to #065. That's not too surprising as that whole string of cars that was built in 1997 - #062-#070 - are all pretty similar.

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ER

Hillsborough Concours was September 12th.

#066 is supposed to look identical to #065. That's not too surprising as that whole string of cars that was built in 1997 - #062-#070 - are all pretty similar.

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ER

so they are all silver?

I think #028 in northern California, pics from SCF

There are some more on flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wallacechane/5122955671/) ;)

awesome!

Quite a lovely photo:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20J/IMG_6521.jpg

The source (http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=140071838&postcount=20) has pics of the rest of his extremely impressive collection. :thumbsup:

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ER

A lovely collection :thumbsup:

And we reckon that F1 came from Brunei?

possibly, through a business connection of the owner

I used to think there was some logic behind that idea given his past business dealings wtih the Brunei Investment Agency but have unofficially backed away from that theory now. In a way that kind of bums me out because it means there are two cars missing from the Brunei collection and not just the one that is reported to have been totaled.

It's only a matter of time before this car's real chassis number is public knowledge I think.

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ER

This appears to be #068 wrapped up and on its way out the door:

http://cornerbalance.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/img951077.jpg

http://cornerbalance.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/img951079.jpg

Borrowed from here (http://cornerbalance.wordpress.com/2010/07/05/).

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ER

Just two pics, but this should be chassis #062 in the hands of its new owner:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4105/5434800509_3799926250_z.jpg (http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4105/5434800509_3799926250_b.jpg)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5292/5435415120_4b673eacba_z.jpg (http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5292/5435415120_4b673eacba_b.jpg)

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ER

thank you Erik ;)

Phil

I like it. Another one in CA Anyone know where abouts in CA?

Woodside again. The car has had 3 owners and never moved more than 50 miles.

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ER

Wow--That means there is a chance i could see this one since thats right around
the corner from my neck of the woods. Was this Lary's car at one time?

Yes, Ellison was the first owner.

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ER

A couple more of #062

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/AF/th_5434794413_c58f6e8637_b.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/AF/?action=view&current=5434794413_c58f6e8637_b.jpg)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/AF/th_5435356614_775bc2721b_b.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/AF/?action=view&current=5435356614_775bc2721b_b.jpg)

Two questions what is this colour , and what is a qualified collector?

http://www.classicdriver.com/uk/find/4100_results.asp?bsubmit=true&lmanufacturer=10084&lCarID=1764629



how do you prove your a collector??? by being well known or just filthy rich i guess :screwy:

Hello,

this one is not in Japan ?

Hello,

this one is not in Japan ?

Yes, it should still be in Japan. The advertiser is in the USA and I believe he prefers not to give too much away with his ads.

Al- That is chassis #029 in the photo. The Chassis History poster lists the color for that one as "Brazilian Brown" but I now strongly believe they have the color names reversed between that car and #039, so actually this is the "Creighton Brown" car.

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ER

Hello Erik,

you have a mail ;)

Phil

The internet train from France must be delayed today because I don't have anything from you since the 24th Phil.

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ER

Hello,

I can't read #044 plate on the vid where it left Greenwhich with Enzo Prova M.
"?MBN2". Can't find #045 plate too.

Phil