Got spanked by a z28.

Yea, so i was driving to work this morning and I saw this clean z28 that had a license plate that said "SVT HA" First I laughed and giggled like a little school girl, then I figured fuck it! Mind as well see how bad I lose. So we get to a stop light and the light turns green, first thing off the line he jumps me, so we keep going and we probably hit 70 before we shut down, but he had a good car on me. I just knoded my head a smiled. I think if i would have had a good launch he may have only beat me by a half a car. Anyways, that thing was pretty nice&clean plus quick as hell. Oh yeah, lol, there was some focus SVT right next to us when we launched lol, i thought he was going to try and get in on it, but I guess he had a better mind.

Good loss. What type of Camaro was it (Meaning year)?

Good loss. What type of Camaro was it (Meaning year)?
judging by the headlites probably a 98. In order for a z28 to be that quick he has to have some decent mods right? I mean hes talking svt ha, well you mind as well say 12sec car ha. Aren't LS1's like mid-low 13's stock?

Mid-low 13s... lol

Nah, high 13s on a good day. Mid 13s on a perfect run, maybe.

LS1's will run mid 13s all day if the driver is worth his beans... most aren't.

so you guys raced to about first and half of second.....short race....yeah I would say if you would have done a 5000rpm launch and raced two gears you might have been right next to him or even a little ahead.....

uh..if it was a '98 its an LS1 not LT1..

Mods to your car???
Sounds like he probably shouldn't have that plate. :lol: :lol:

if it was a LT1 you had a good race on your hands regardless from roll or dig

but a LS1 would kill you pretty good either way, unless your modded

if it was a LT1 you had a good race on your hands regardless from roll or dig

but a LS1 would kill you pretty good either way, unless your modded
But i raced an LS2 GTO on two occasions and hung better with both of them than with this guy.

But i raced an LS2 GTO on two occasions and hung better with both of them than with this guy.

You must've raced Danno, JUST KIDDING!!!! An LS2 powered GTO should snarf your car pretty good from what i've seen of your mods. It's all in the driver. RWD/ FWD cars are not that easy to get outta the hole.

Considering you only raced him to 70mph, he did quite well, and beating you off the line would be hard for most anyone w/ a rwd cars without slicks or drag radials.

I'm actually surprised he jumped on you right away from a dig. I would think the AWD would get you an early but short lived head start.

hard to say what the outcome would've been if you had raced to 100+,, but my guess is he would just walk away from you.

I'm actually surprised he jumped on you right away from a dig. I would think the AWD would get you an early but short lived head start.
I had a shitty launch, bad actually. Oh and about my mods they don't do much (yet), maybe an 8hp difference? But the car is capable of doing a quarter in 13.7 bone stock (which i still have to prove cuz the other time slips werent good enough, damnit right_lirrr) :D

Mods to your car???
Sounds like he probably shouldn't have that plate. :lol: :lol:


There are always the 94-2002 Cobra's that are SVT's. As well as the SVT Slowcus.

I had a shitty launch, bad actually. Oh and about my mods they don't do much (yet), maybe an 8hp difference? But the car is capable of doing a quarter in 13.7 bone stock (which i still have to prove cuz the other time slips werent good enough, damnit right_lirrr) :D

I'd love to see a 13.7 sec. out of a stock WRX. I have yet to see a stock one pull off a 14 sec. flat 1/4 mile, let alone get in the 13's BONE STOCK.

If you live in Southern California you're more then welcome to accompany Danno and I to Famoso Raceway to see what your car can do. We will be going on June 17, 2006.

I would have to agree....bone stock wrxs will hardly even see 14 flat...more like mid 14s....I know the 06 wrxs are faster then the previous year but 13.7 bro......wow

I would have to agree....bone stock wrxs will hardly even see 14 flat...more like mid 14s....I know the 06 wrxs are faster then the previous year but 13.7 bro......wow


:1: :lol:

I would have to agree....bone stock wrxs will hardly even see 14 flat...more like mid 14s....I know the 06 wrxs are faster then the previous year but 13.7 bro......wow

It's from all these boneheads online from E Town and Sears point. They think that all tracks are the same, eventhough their track is sometimes at a negative density altitude. Some people don't think that altitude affects a car's performance. I can see a STOCK WRX running 13.7 sec. at -1000 DA, but at sea level and 0 DA it ain't gonna happen.

lol, everyone here always gets a little huffy puffy when i say that. I am down as hell to go with you guys that would be fun. Remember, I said capable i don't know if mine can do it, BUT I think I probably can. Where is that track? LAish? Im in Temecula.

lol, everyone here always gets a little huffy puffy when i say that. I am down as hell to go with you guys that would be fun. Remember, I said capable i don't know if mine can do it, BUT I think I probably can. Where is that track? LAish? Im in Temecula.

What 60' is needed for a 13.7 in that car bone stock?

What 60' is needed for a 13.7 in that car bone stock?

1.5 :grinno:

it aint possible, unless you have a factory freak
i've driven all cars mentioned, exept the gto and the wrx is not and will not run a 13.7 bone stock
thats like saying a stock wrx is faster than a nsx, or vr4 or 300zxtt
its not capable unless its some kinda factory freak, or your on a track like 2000ls1z28 mentioned above

lol, everyone here always gets a little huffy puffy when i say that. I am down as hell to go with you guys that would be fun. Remember, I said capable i don't know if mine can do it, BUT I think I probably can. Where is that track? LAish? Im in Temecula.

Famoso Raceway is located in Bakersfield. It's gonna be a drive for Danno and I, but considering how Fontana Speedway is closed for right now, and LACR sucks ass, I figure why not run at a near sea level track.

If you wanna run the best times possible you should go to Famoso, as it is only 635 above sea level. Here is the information on the track:

http://www.famosoraceway.com/

I knew all you guys would be ragging on the 13.7s claim.

And don't get me wrong, I was FIRST! :grinyes:

BUT

I have heard of quite a few, some in USA on NASIOC and some on local WRX forums in Aus, that an 06 WRX is quite capable of running 13.84s with a pretty experienced WRX driver. The word is that the very avg driver should be pushing 14s-14.1.

HOWEVER

Maxxus, I still don't believe YOU can pull a 13.6 as u claimed a cple of weeks ago (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=566875) (post#5). I would hope by now you know that even 13.7s are a freak of nature. But that guy on NASIOC did do it and there's no reason to believe otherwise (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=979781&page=1&pp=25).

Atm, my belief is that a decent driver can do 13.9-14.1s in the 06 WRX. This is quite an improvement given that the pre 06 ones had most avg ppl doing anywhere between 14.3-14.6

However, the 06 WRXs are not proven yet, so Maxxus, get ur ass on the track and see what you can run.

The 06 WRXs are something still yet to be proven as they are quite new. However, the potential I see is quite tantalising. 2.5L (almost the same engine same as the STi), not much more hp (my guess is limited by subaru for marketing reasons i.e. to be able to up it every year), but 20Nm more torque which comes in earlier and hence lasts for a bit longer.

From what I hear from people who have upgraded from previous WRXs, it's quite a different car from the old ones.

so cal huh? how bout i join ya. ill totally embarass all of you yall aint ready foo!!!!@#$.....(notice the sarcasm)

wow

lol, everyone here always gets a little huffy puffy when i say that. I am down as hell to go with you guys that would be fun. Remember, I said capable i don't know if mine can do it, BUT I think I probably can. Where is that track? LAish? Im in Temecula.


So let me get this straight. You can't beat a heavy, torquey, RWD, hard to launch car, off the line (on the street where it favors you even more, mind you), yet you think you can pull a near perfect time for your car? I don't find it too hard to believe that the car can run a 13.7 since they seem like they are underrated, however seeing as how you cant outlaunch an LS1 on the street in your AWD car, I doubt it..... Good luck though!

I knew all you guys would be ragging on the 13.7s claim.

And don't get me wrong, I was FIRST! :grinyes:

BUT

I have heard of quite a few, some in USA on NASIOC and some on local WRX forums in Aus, that an 06 WRX is quite capable of running 13.84s with a pretty experienced WRX driver. The word is that the very avg driver should be pushing 14s-14.1.

HOWEVER

Maxxus, I still don't believe YOU can pull a 13.6 as u claimed a cple of weeks ago (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=566875) (post#5). I would hope by now you know that even 13.7s are a freak of nature. But that guy on NASIOC did do it and there's no reason to believe otherwise (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=979781&page=1&pp=25).

Atm, my belief is that a decent driver can do 13.9-14.1s in the 06 WRX. This is quite an improvement given that the pre 06 ones had most avg ppl doing anywhere between 14.3-14.6

However, the 06 WRXs are not proven yet, so Maxxus, get ur ass on the track and see what you can run.

The 06 WRXs are something still yet to be proven as they are quite new. However, the potential I see is quite tantalising. 2.5L (almost the same engine same as the STi), not much more hp (my guess is limited by subaru for marketing reasons i.e. to be able to up it every year), but 20Nm more torque which comes in earlier and hence lasts for a bit longer.

From what I hear from people who have upgraded from previous WRXs, it's quite a different car from the old ones.

hmmm, i wasnt aware that the 06 was any different from the pre 06...i'll take my words back until i find out more on it

Eventhough the 2006 is more powerful then the 05's I find it hard to believe that a car that weighs 3200lbs and has 200awhp can hit 13's. But hey, what do I know?

Eventhough the 2006 is more powerful then the 05's I find it hard to believe that a car that weighs 3200lbs and has 200awhp can hit 13's. But hey, what do I know?

I wouldn't say they're impossible, but difficult at best. Hell, the STi's only have about 220AWHP and can manage low 13s.

I wouldn't say they're impossible, but difficult at best. Hell, the STi's only have about 220AWHP and can manage low 13s.


Yeah, but the also have limited slip upfront, and better gearing for sprinting (think rally) hence the 6 speed.

STi's stock are running 13.5's here. I hate them. :lol:
From a roll I kill them, but from a dig...I have to play catch up.

STi's stock are running 13.5's here. I hate them. :lol:
From a roll I kill them, but from a dig...I have to play catch up.


It's cause you're so slow... remember that.:p

I know. :frown:

I wouldn't say they're impossible, but difficult at best. Hell, the STi's only have about 220AWHP and can manage low 13s.

Where the hell are you getting your numbers from? An STi will put down anywhere between 235-250awhp. I can quote several magazines if you'd like. I want to see where you are getting this number from.......

Where the hell are you getting your numbers from? An STi will put down anywhere between 235-250awhp. I can quote several magazines if you'd like. I want to see where you are getting this number from.......Yea i read like 250, and my car is pulling like 206. Bakersfield damn! Thats a damn drive for me too, but i am for sure going...damnit! As many curiousity's and impossibilites everyone has/see's I myself need to find out too.:iceslolan We will see how fast she goes , but I for sure think 13's hahaha! I got my launch down too:sunglasse

Here's a pic of a stock WRX STi's dyno in Motor Trend (Please note this was done after the fix, which made STi's lose horsepower, due to the engine pinging when using California craptane gas):

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedan/112_0410_evowrx21_s.jpg

Where the hell are you getting your numbers from? An STi will put down anywhere between 235-250awhp. I can quote several magazines if you'd like. I want to see where you are getting this number from.......

I've actually SEEN an STi dyno at 223 at the wheels, but that was on a Mustang dyno, which is typically not at generous as other dyno's.

I've actually SEEN an STi dyno at 223 at the wheels, but that was on a Mustang dyno, which is typically not at generous as other dyno's.


Oh ok. Yeah Mustang dynos spit out rather low numbers. I could see an STi only pulling that to the wheel on one. I believe stock LS1's only pull out about 260-270whp on those.

Oh ok. Yeah Mustang dynos spit out rather low numbers. I could see an STi only pulling that to the wheel on one. I believe stock LS1's only pull out about 260-270whp on those.

On a side note, Mustang dyno's are thought to be more accurate than other types aren't they? Whever I talk about WHP I typically go by the readings given by Mustang dyno's since that is the only kinda dyno we have in this town. As a result people often look at me like I'm crazy when I chime in with the WHP of a car I've seen. The guy that owns the shop has a list of all the cars he has dyno'd, and puts down their mods and what power they made (with the owner's conscent of course). I believe the highest powered car on there was a 400WHP Prelude.

On a side note, Mustang dyno's are thought to be more accurate than other types aren't they? Whever I talk about WHP I typically go by the readings given by Mustang dyno's since that is the only kinda dyno we have in this town. As a result people often look at me like I'm crazy when I chime in with the WHP of a car I've seen. The guy that owns the shop has a list of all the cars he has dyno'd, and puts down their mods and what power they made (with the owner's conscent of course). I believe the highest powered car on there was a 400WHP Prelude.

phew, that's good. I've always been a fan of preludes. I remember playing with one of the freeway 2 years back when i had my last car. they're pretty fast without mods, but i only had a 1.6 back then, so you see where i'm coming from, lol.

preludes no.......h22 long blocks yes....h22 trannys no....

On a side note, Mustang dyno's are thought to be more accurate than other types aren't they? Whever I talk about WHP I typically go by the readings given by Mustang dyno's since that is the only kinda dyno we have in this town. As a result people often look at me like I'm crazy when I chime in with the WHP of a car I've seen. The guy that owns the shop has a list of all the cars he has dyno'd, and puts down their mods and what power they made (with the owner's conscent of course). I believe the highest powered car on there was a 400WHP Prelude.

Mustang dynos put a load on the car, unlike Dynojets, so they are more accurate. I believe there is a new Eddie Dynojet that is just as accurate, and more user friendly then the Mustang Dyno.

I went for the Dynojet, cause I wanted high numbers :D

No dyno is any more 'accurate' than another.

No dyno is any more 'accurate' than another.

I believe either Car And Driver or Motor Trend tested out the various forms of dynos, and they are not all created equal. The mustang dyno was the most accurate. They tested the same cars, and got different numbers on the same dyno on the same day, with the same weather conditions. Not all dynos are created equal, and the mustang dyno has proven to be more "accurate" as a tuning tool then the dynojet.

I'll see if I can find that article later on tomorrow to prove my point.

I believe either Car And Driver or Motor Trend tested out the various forms of dynos, and they are not all created equal. The mustang dyno was the most accurate. They tested the same cars, and got different numbers on the same dyno on the same day, with the same weather conditions. Not all dynos are created equal, and the mustang dyno has proven to be more "accurate" as a tuning tool then the dynojet.

I'll see if I can find that article later on tomorrow to prove my point.

I believe the word you're looking for is "reliable"

Mr Luos is right, none are more "accurate".

Just some dynos will give less inconsistencies and are more reliable.

what a bunch of dyno queens......lol

Wanna race?

I believe either Car And Driver or Motor Trend tested out the various forms of dynos, and they are not all created equal. The mustang dyno was the most accurate. They tested the same cars, and got different numbers on the same dyno on the same day, with the same weather conditions. Not all dynos are created equal, and the mustang dyno has proven to be more "accurate" as a tuning tool then the dynojet.

I'll see if I can find that article later on tomorrow to prove my point.

All dynamometers use math to determine how much horsepower you have. How can you really say which is more accurate. The fact of the matter is that you should use the same dyno throughout the tuning process for accurate results. I've heard that each one is more accurate than the other. Just pick with one and stick with it. Who cares about numbers unless you're building a dyno queen?

Wanna race?

sure......on my bike:wink:

I know nothing about bikes.
What CC??
What do they run on average?

I know nothing about bikes.
What CC??
What do they run on average?

He's got a 1,000 cc bike. My money would be on him smoking you. That bike of his is a low 10 sec. one, with a good rider.

Ill race him in three gears from the dig...anything beyond that is too scary for me on that bike.....I hit about 90 in first if I could keep the front wheel down..

:rofl:



Edit:::IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT Camaros PLEASE GO HERE AND HELP ME
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=4107586&posted=1#post4107586

Ill race him in three gears from the dig...anything beyond that is too scary for me on that bike.....I hit about 90 in first if I could keep the front wheel down..

Stop being such a pussy.

Stop being such a pussy.

shut up.......you jump on a 10r and not be scared...:p

Seen the new Ninja...1.3L goddamn, I got shivers just looking at the pictures.

It's been said, that if you wanna screw with a bike... you need at least 500whp to even consider it.

It's been said, that if you wanna screw with a bike... you need at least 500whp to even consider it.
How many??

Seen the new Ninja...1.3L goddamn, I got shivers just looking at the pictures.

actually its the new zx-14....1400cc of raw power....about 190hp to the wheel....on a 400lb peice of metal....