spanking the domestics

Originally posted by banditkiller
well as for the camaro yes thats what hte car was built for and in a staight line in the integra you never know however my guess is your cobra is running low to mid 13's and if im right it would be a good race and as for the corners your is a little heavier than the integra


I guess it would come down to driver skill then, now would it not?

yes i suppose that it would and seeing as im right you would probably edge me out as mustangs are notorius for their low end torque giving u the advantage off the line it would be a good race

Well over 300tq is nice:D

yeah your 300 ft. lb. of tq is alot better than my 190 ft.lb. heh heh ..... the camaro has enough that the first time i launched hard i twisted the front a little enough to make the hood close off center

is it true that the 4.6L GT mustang is SOHC.. now if this is true wouldnt this make the 4.6 GT a weak V8 considering what else was out there.. LT1..

Originally posted by ViGGa2LO
is it true that the 4.6L GT mustang is SOHC.. now if this is true wouldnt this make the 4.6 GT a weak V8 considering what else was out there.. LT1..

Since there are no more camaro/firebirds being made, is not the lt1 obsolete? Im not aware of it being used in the corvette. But, I am by no way a gm expert, maybe redneck will chime in. The 4.6 GT makes 260 hp. Not to shabby from a small v8. Sure its going to be out powered by a 5.7 liter v8. Now the 4.6 in the 96-newer cobras 32 valve dohc, is a contender for whatever you throw their way.

I do believe the last year for the lt1 in anything was 1997, in 1998 they used the ls1 in the camaros/TAs and corvettes, and the ls6 in the z06. as for ls1 being obsolete, even though they are not making f-bodies, it is still used in the corvette, and soon to be in the new gto. as for the 4.6l, they are grossly underpowered in stock form. hell, I've seen them put around 160 to the wheels here in alb. a good comparison would be a completely stock prelude putting 125, and modded ones putting a bit more. hell, a sohc 4.6l in a saleen did 260hp with "installed 42lb injectors and a lightning mass air folw sensor, the kit is a ATI with a 2 row intercooler and a chip" i know he has some bolt ons too. to give a comparison, some of the ls1's are dynoing around 240ish stock on the same dyno. on a similar note though, a dohc 4.6l in a '01 cobra got about 350hp on a ati kit with fmic and a few others, but less than the saleen. i still laugh at that though, 160hp to the wheels stock, hell, i think an s2000 did 165 stock, and with the sc 235hp. so in most terms, you could say a 4.6l sohc fors is about on par with a 2.0l honda hehehe

If your talking about the 4.6 in 96-98 mustang GT, then at 5500 ft above sea level it is conceivable that a particular car only produced 160 hp at wheels. I mean come on, they are only rated at 215 at flywheel. The 99 and newer GT has 260 hp at flywheel. A recent dyno test in a magazine on a 2001 GT produced 230 hp and 272 tq at the rear wheels. Not bad for a bone stock car with only 780 miles on it. But, the GTs made from 96-98 are dogs. The new v6 mustangs (99-02) will run door to door with a stock one.

i thought the 96-98 were rated at either 225 or 240?, either way, none of them are very fast, and the saleen was the 99+ body style n/a saleen. the average corretcion for this altitude is about 21%, so that is still only 190hp here, and still kinda sad, especially when considering a 1995 gs-r on a stock block with a turbo and some mods got 238hp.

LT1's and LS1's have single cam engines as well...LT1 stock it about 230 rwhp, ls1 about 300rwhp...

96-98's are 215 hp crank only those are sad, i thought the new 4.6 was DOHC...? maybe not i dunno

All right lets clear some stuff up. 1994-95 mustang GT=5.0 liter v8 rated at 215hp at flywheel. 1996-1998 mustang GT= 4.6 sohc rated at 215hp. 1999-2002 GT= 4.6 sohc rated at 260 hp. 1994-1995 cobra= 5.0l liter v8 rated at 240 hp. 1996-1998 cobra= 4.6 DOHC rated at 305 hp. 1999-01 cobra= 4.6 DOHC rated at 320 hp. 2003 cobra=4.6 DOHC supercharged rated at 390 hp.

There you have it.

the 94-95 mustangs are dogs as sad before a stock 1993 mustang gt was rated 225 at the fly and a stock 1993 cobra 245 at the flywheel it sad that fords engines are so weak

and in 99 whn the new revised cobra came out the new out put was rated at 320 however do to fords engineers the cars lost as much as 25 hp some guys were really miffed its in a car and driver article

i do believe ford had a recall on the '99 cobra due to it not making the claimed hp. i believe the recall included a different intake and exhaust.

Originally posted by banditkiller
the 94-95 mustangs are dogs as sad before a stock 1993 mustang gt was rated 225 at the fly and a stock 1993 cobra 245 at the flywheel it sad that fords engines are so weak

and in 99 whn the new revised cobra came out the new out put was rated at 320 however do to fords engineers the cars lost as much as 25 hp some guys were really miffed its in a car and driver article

The 93 mustangs were also rated at 215 not 225hp. Some where around 1986-1989 were rated at the 225 hp. pollution controll stuff knocked rating down.
The 94/95 cobras are underrated by ford. Numerous bone stock cobras have dynoed at 220-230hp at rear wheels. Which equates to 260-270hp at flywheel. Not the 240hp and 285tq. Some say that ford underrated the numbers to make the 4.6 liter look better when it came out.

Originally posted by 94svt5.0


Since there are no more camaro/firebirds being made, is not the lt1 obsolete? Im not aware of it being used in the corvette. But, I am by no way a gm expert, maybe redneck will chime in. The 4.6 GT makes 260 hp. Not to shabby from a small v8. Sure its going to be out powered by a 5.7 liter v8. Now the 4.6 in the 96-newer cobras 32 valve dohc, is a contender for whatever you throw their way.

Ahh and here I am, Chiming in.


Ok so you want to know about the Beloved 5.7? *goes to his library of facts*

Lets see... Our Vehicle for comparisons will be the Camaro, Years ranging from 93-Present.

93-95 the 5.7 Produced 275hp - 325ft-lbs of tq
96-97 the 5.7 Produced 285/305hp(SS) -335/345ft-lbs of tq
In 97, a small number of Camaros were equipted with LT4 (no LT1s) which made 330hp.
In 98, along with a new front end it recieved a nice update to its engine bay, the Corvettes LS1 all aluminum engine which was rated at 305hp, the SS made 320.
99 models didnt get anything new.
00 models also didnt get anything new.
01 models got a bump in performance 310hp - 335ft-lbs The SS 320hp - 345ft-lbs. The stock Z-28 also ran a 14 flat, the SS ran a 13.7. (not that you care:D)
02 models made the same, only difference is the SS models got a boost to 325hp - 350ft-lbs of tq.

These are the base numbers of the performance 5.7. Obviously there are higher numbers... out of the Corvette. Or lower numbers if you take the ratings out of say a Truck who uses the same engine. I figured the Camaro would be (and is) the equivilant to the Mustang in this particular subject on engine outputs.

Well there you have it. Ask and you shall receive... Now.. back to my Toast.

Ahh and here I am, Chiming in.


Ok so you want to know about the Beloved 5.7? *goes to his library of facts*

Lets see... Our Vehicle for comparisons will be the Camaro, Years ranging from 93-Present.

93-95 the 5.7 Produced 275hp - 325ft-lbs of tq
96-97 the 5.7 Produced 285/305hp(SS) -335/345ft-lbs of tq
In 97, a small number of Camaros were equipted with LT4 (no LT1s) which made 330hp.
In 98, along with a new front end it recieved a nice update to its engine bay, the Corvettes LS1 all aluminum engine which was rated at 305hp, the SS made 320.
99 models didnt get anything new.
00 models also didnt get anything new.
01 models got a bump in performance 310hp - 335ft-lbs The SS 320hp - 345ft-lbs. The stock Z-28 also ran a 14 flat, the SS ran a 13.7. (not that you care:D)
02 models made the same, only difference is the SS models got a boost to 325hp - 350ft-lbs of tq.

These are the base numbers of the performance 5.7. Obviously there are higher numbers... out of the Corvette. Or lower numbers if you take the ratings out of say a Truck who uses the same engine. I figured the Camaro would be (and is) the equivilant to the Mustang in this particular subject on engine outputs.

Well there you have it. Ask and you shall receive... Now.. back to my Toast.



Welll where toegin.. first since the 85 Grand national.. Gm has owned ford.. in diferent cars

check the recod books.. the Gt and cocra were never a matcch..

in the end 01-02 Ls1 recivels6 ecu. ls6intake and exhaust anifolds, a 6.l lter stick borrowed fromtheir truckline

and tested with a bunch oh smoes Gm highperformance Pontic maggave a farewel article toa 3680 lb fully loaded Ws6 02 ( which is idendicldown to the tole4rances).. they hd 3 of them in auto.. wieging fully loaded .. cause lets face fatsthe Ws6 is practicaly the eanest bad a** on the road..

they peformed 7 1/4 runs for each car.. none went over 13.1.4 and one whent 13 flat.. so s/c cobra turning high 12's.. i could put in a cut out and alid and remove airilencers..and boom they are inthe high 12..

just for fun my Ws6 dyno'd at 320.1 hp thats real closeto 380 flywhell.. which the Cobra r was defeated as a stripper , no air o radia, no power nothing buy the 385hp Z06(010

so pleaseford can't do it evenwith advancedhigh reving 4v dohc..they neded a blower and still it deadly loe.. screwyou lunch with the cobra and your done.. whixh mosot puk face kids do'' all ipt at first was a cut out a lid , sealed the ram air openings to it..and i was in the mid 12.. oh i used 160 dollar instaleed nito Drs.when my super expensive eagle wore ot after only 9 thoughs and miles

i lauggh at almost every import that revs.. with my presnt stalll.. its worth.75 inthe 1/4 ofcourse that with Dr's

i don'ten use my nos..my tank i purge it one a weak just to be sure

you can do anything to a hoda.. but you'll spemd more than i id.. the H/C/H INSTALLED were2999 and 500 for the headers
Na she make over 470 hp.. wit nos forget abput it.. i've never been beaten by a cobra ..never.. thelaunch is the key

and i tok 2 year to build this car.. its years old Tecnically boUght feb 01 . 02 is one 03 two years and 04 is coming soon.3 YEARS. so
whth 15 kmiles..itscherry..and dn'trace nlessiminstigted. i dn't have ram air on my hoof i have my rwhp lol
i hate hearign this crap.. oh and this car can andle on scca test day i made a .94 skid..and a 67 slalom. yeah she it on about 150lbs diet..at 3430 i', 390 with full tank

Sorry littlecivos with nos a a turbo.. i luag my a88 atturn up mypigybacked 100 watt added 2 10 and 2 tweeter.. no ghetto lough clear ,thump bum no ratllei studied my car and bpought it cash.. so the 2 yearswas just hobby money

Welll where toegin.. first since the 85 Grand national.. Gm has owned ford.. in diferent cars

check the recod books.. the Gt and cocra were never a matcch..

in the end 01-02 Ls1 recivels6 ecu. ls6intake and exhaust anifolds, a 6.l lter stick borrowed fromtheir truckline

and tested with a bunch oh smoes Gm highperformance Pontic maggave a farewel article toa 3680 lb fully loaded Ws6 02 ( which is idendicldown to the tole4rances).. they hd 3 of them in auto.. wieging fully loaded .. cause lets face fatsthe Ws6 is practicaly the eanest bad a** on the road..

they peformed 7 1/4 runs for each car.. none went over 13.1.4 and one whent 13 flat.. so s/c cobra turning high 12's.. i could put in a cut out and alid and remove airilencers..and boom they are inthe high 12..

just for fun my Ws6 dyno'd at 320.1 hp thats real closeto 380 flywhell.. which the Cobra r was defeated as a stripper , no air o radia, no power nothing buy the 385hp Z06(010

so pleaseford can't do it evenwith advancedhigh reving 4v dohc..they neded a blower and still it deadly loe.. screwyou lunch with the cobra and your done.. whixh mosot puk face kids do'' all ipt at first was a cut out a lid , sealed the ram air openings to it..and i was in the mid 12.. oh i used 160 dollar instaleed nito Drs.when my super expensive eagle wore ot after only 9 thoughs and miles

i lauggh at almost every import that revs.. with my presnt stalll.. its worth.75 inthe 1/4 ofcourse that with Dr's

i don'ten use my nos..my tank i purge it one a weak just to be sure

you can do anything to a hoda.. but you'll spemd more than i id.. the H/C/H INSTALLED were2999 and 500 for the headers
Na she make over 470 hp.. wit nos forget abput it.. i've never been beaten by a cobra ..never.. thelaunch is the key

and i tok 2 year to build this car.. its years old Tecnically boUght feb 01 . 02 is one 03 two years and 04 is coming soon.3 YEARS. so
whth 15 kmiles..itscherry..and dn'trace nlessiminstigted. i dn't have ram air on my hoof i have my rwhp lol
i hate hearign this crap.. oh and this car can andle on scca test day i made a .94 skid..and a 67 slalom. yeah she it on about 150lbs diet..at 3430 i', 390 with full tank

Sorry littlecivos with nos a a turbo.. i luag my a88 atturn up mypigybacked 100 watt added 2 10 and 2 tweeter.. no ghetto lough clear ,thump bum no ratllei studied my car and bpought it cash.. so the 2 yearswas just hobby money

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this is a very old thread.

plz don't bring up threads that are dead/out-dated.

if u'd like to start ur own thread great. leave this one in the grave-yard.
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