FOUND - McLaren F1 Replica!!!!!

linky no worky ;)

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Hi How did you insert the picture... I am not so good at this forum. I would like to show some more picturs from the Sensor the old car

Thanks in advance

Best Regards
Björn

Some more pictures from m old car project

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/9463/dsc00019xz3.jpg

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/1163/dsc00026us7.jpg

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/4509/dsc00028bm6.jpg

Would bee nice to hear what you think or if you have any tips how to improve the carbon work

Have a nice day

Best Regards
Björn

Your Carbon Mouldings look good, the interior buck for the F1 is marred by the oversize outer sills.

Your Carbon Mouldings look good, the interior buck for the F1 is marred by the oversize outer sills.

Yes a fully agree :)... There are some companies that have tried but have not succeeded in my eyes. My car will never be a real Mclaren but it is really important to me that it gets as good as possible both to look on and drive.

I will never be able to purchase a real Mclaren but it is really my dream car and some dreams you have to full fill



Best Regards
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Björn N Persson

Yes a fully agree :)... There are some companies that have tried but have not succeeded in my eyes. My car will never be a real Mclaren but it is really important to me that it gets as good as possible both to look on and drive.

I will never be able to purchase a real Mclaren but it is really my dream car and some dreams you have to full fill



Best Regards
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Björn N Persson

Good Luck!!! :D

Some more pictures from m old car project

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/9463/dsc00019xz3.jpg

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/1163/dsc00026us7.jpg

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/4509/dsc00028bm6.jpg

Would bee nice to hear what you think or if you have any tips how to improve the carbon work

Have a nice day

Best Regards
Björn
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sorry first link doesnt seem to work for me? :frown:

I recently found and am interested in the DDR Motorsport SP8.

I could care less that it "looks" like some other overpriced supercar that I can't afford and gets very crappy gas mileage.

Is anyone in the same boat as I am? I'd sure like to own one... problem is that I can't build for crap, but I am willing to learn if someone out there is wanting to teach me. I'd like to get something as much turnkey as possible, but if I gotta put some elbow grease to building it, I'm ready for the challenge.

How about an Ultima? Those seem impressive, both in performance and value.

How about an Ultima? Those seem impressive, both in performance and value.

The Ultima is a really nice kitcar but it is not enuff for me:naughty:

The Ultima is a really nice kitcar but it is not enuff for me:naughty:

That's kind of funny as the Ultima is proven-tested & verified, faster than the production McLaren itself. And I'm sure you know what McLaren used as test beds for the it's original dev., one of the first bakers dozen of Ultimas. Haha, not enough he says, what a funny guy.

Not to start a huge debate, as I like the Ultimas, the Caterhams and the Ariel Atoms (etc) but they're all practically go-karts in comparison to a McLaren F1. Speed is never the only factor even for someone like me where there's never enough of it.

>8^)
ER

Not to start a huge debate, as I like the Ultimas, the Caterhams and the Ariel Atoms (etc) but they're all practically go-karts in comparison to a McLaren F1. Speed is never the only factor even for someone like me where there's never enough of it.

>8^)
ER

ahmen brotha! preach on :)

although rolling around in a cracked out go-kart does sound fun.
Noble has aspired to some good semi-production vehicles these days also.

Not to start a huge debate, as I like the Ultimas, the Caterhams and the Ariel Atoms (etc) but they're all practically go-karts in comparison to a McLaren F1. Speed is never the only factor even for someone like me where there's never enough of it.

>8^)
ER

I can just fully agree with you ER

And yes I know that Mclaren was using the Ultima, but in my mind it is to much of a group B design on it.

Mvh
Björn

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Do you know if this is the guy in Mexcio ?

Best regards
Björn

I just found the pic on the internet; it came with no identification :dunno:

Yes saw a whole series of the same body buck but can't for the life of me remember where may have the others saved on a CD somewhere.

Figured I'd revive this discussion for another F1 replica I've discovered. First was this picture on Flickr:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4076/4924498887_77bb1da399.jpg

A link in the comments leads here: http://www.vacalimousines.com

Click on NVESTRAS CREACIONES, then McLaren to seem some small photos.

Where else can you get a McLaren F1 convertible? :uhoh:

>8^)
ER

Figured I'd revive this discussion for another F1 replica I've discovered. First was this picture on Flickr:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4076/4924498887_77bb1da399.jpg

A link in the comments leads here: http://www.vacalimousines.com

Click on NVESTRAS CREACIONES, then McLaren to seem some small photos.

Where else can you get a McLaren F1 convertible? :uhoh:

>8^)
ER

wow, they;ve got some terrible cars lol

It is one of the better kit I have seen , but i hope to see a 90% replica soon

Some interesting replica 19 inch OZ Chrono wheels, just perfect for a replica, not sure which actual F1 they were made for. if any :dunno:

http://www.team3wheels.com/one_off_wheels.html

Scroll down.

They kind of look like the wheels that were at one time fitted to #013.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20C/th_PB260128.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20C/PB260128.jpg)

>8^)
ER

How do you add pictures to a reply to a thread? Ok I must be a Ludite?

It helps if they are hosted somewhere on the web already like Photobucket and have an easily accessible URL. Then you just click on 'http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/editor/insertimage.gif' in the reply box and paste in the URL and it will apply the [IMG] tags for you.

If you don't have it hosted somewhere already and want to attach it to the forum you need the advanced posting window. Under the Additional Options below the Submit button you will find 'Manage Attachments' which spawns a pop-up window where you can Browse and upload an image direct from your computer hard drive.

Play around with either one and you should be able to figure it out. I can always delete any messes you make in testing or you can use AF.com's dedicated Test Forum (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=2047) where no one really cares what you do.

>8^)
ER

2 off 10" x 18" & 2 off 13" x 18"

:wink:

2 off 10" x 18" & 2 off 13" x 18"

:wink:

Nice set of wheels you have there :smokin:

They now also have had the rubber donuts re-fitted around them, alas as the eagle eyed will no doubt have spotted straight away they are not originals. I actually found them on a Dodge Viper sat in a breakers?

I was going to say they looked like the Speedline wheels fitted to some F355 Challenge cars, but those had lugs.

>8^)
ER

Your'e the man Eric, they are indeed Speedline but instead of being drilled for studs they are machined for a central nut of 50mm

03R used Speedlines in the BPR and at Lemans

Now thats interesting, any particular reason they didnt use the standard OZ fitment?

03R used Speedlines in the BPR and at Lemans

and were kept on for show too :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/003RWest11.jpg

Here is real McLaren replica:

Ready for sale:

http://www.youtube.com/user/artiplastzabrze?feature=watch :evillol:

I was asking as I actually own a set of centre fix speedline wheels in the correct sizes and same pattern.

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/tm5y3

:naughty:

Check this link out

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2525154/Jacek-Mazur-builds-McLaren-F1-Porsche-Lamborghini-scrap.html

tak43

:sarcasmsign:indistinguishable from the real thing (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2525154/Jacek-Mazur-builds-McLaren-F1-Porsche-Lamborghini-scrap.html):sarcasmsign:

Check this link out

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2525154/Jacek-Mazur-builds-McLaren-F1-Porsche-Lamborghini-scrap.html

tak43

I....don't know what to say.....:rolleyes:

Errmm OK so it isn't going to fool a lot of people into thinking it's the real thing. The 4th seat is bizzare but you have to aplaud his efforts, it's not the easiest of cars to replicate and honestly he has made a better job than the others he has had a go at. With a bit more effort and less reliance on scrap parts it could have looked a lot better.
High marks for effort and audacity, let down by silly and unnecessary deviances but at least it goes. Apologies for spelling errors been up over 48 hours. :banghead:

Clearly inspired by . . . the best, but it couldn't stand in it's shadow even ;)

http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/859/ssva.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/547/ssva.jpg/)

http://www.ddrmotorsport.com/about.php

There is a company which makes Mclaren F1 replica, they have two versions:

1) seemless tubes space frame chassis with mid seating possition and variety of engines

2) economic MR2 based

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJwLtdi3VPo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJwLtdi3VPo

Probably going to be executed for re-opening this old chestnut but does anyone know what happened to the f1 replica being built in Sweden?

Sorry to bump an old thread - this seemed like the most appropriate place post this, however.

I happened across an older article (2011) about a fellow building a McLaren F1 LM replica. Trying to dig up more information lead me to an advertisement for the same car (the shell at least). From what I gather, the foundation is a cutup Pontiac Fiero and the intent was to power it with a Honda NSX drivetrain. I have to say, this effort is an impressively good representation of a real-deal F1.

Article: CarNews - DreamWorks builds out of [production] cars (http://www.carnews.com/article-23622.html)
Listing: Ruten TW - McLaren F1 LM replica car shell (http://goods.ruten.com.tw/item/show?21405072048867)

This appears be the same replica that Erik previously created a thread about: McLaren F1 LM replica - Made in Taiwan (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=1019641-mclaren_f1_lm_replica__made_in_taiwan.html)

No such thing as a good replica.

>8^(
ER

Wingfield D Type replica? As close to a genuine D Type as it's possible to get unless you buy a continuation Jaguar built one.

I'm not saying that it isn't possible to accurately recreate something. I simply disagree with the practice of creating fake examples of precious items.

>8^)
ER

As long as you openly admit it's a recreation and you're being hones about what it is then I don't see anything wrong in it but then I may be biased having spent a good part of my adult life building replicas.

That's the majority of the problem - very few replica owners are forthcoming about the origins of their creations, whether built or bought, preferring to attempt to fool everyone else while doing the same to themselves.

It is an especially large problem whereas in the case of a car like Ferrari's legendary 250 GTO, the fakes far outnumber the real ones and people try to bend reality with the ones that happen to be based upon the chassis or borrowed components of some other hacked up 250-series model. I don't give a pass to those cars any more than I would one based on a Fairlady Z.

>8^)
ER

Fully agree that any one trying to pass a replica off as real needs to be dealt with, As a rule almost all replicas will fall short in some way and I would be the first to admit that. To me the pleasure is in the building process. I generally sell them on after a short time driving usually just to make sure everything works as it should. At my age though starting another just is not an option.I respect you greatly Eric and certainly do not want to let things get out of hand.

I have always had a special spot in my life for the F1. The idea that you can take 2 mates, not 1 but 2, on a road trip to a track in Europe (Spa etc) with luggage and not worry about visibility through the different countries due to that center seat just is.... special.

As I am a mere mortal working class individual with a modest income, a genuine example of this piece of automotive engineering mastery will always be beyond my reach (recent one sold for just shy of 13M).

But when you look at E-types, D-types and cobras, as stated before, they have had a strong replica following for decades. Even Ferrari's and Lambo's have a replica following.

However, if an F1 kit would become available, around the same as I would spend on a Cobra replica (maybe a little more), then I would hold off and get the F1.

My view of a replica is it should look as close to the real thing as possible (external, interior and engine) and I would try to fund it that way.

Alas, I don't have the knowledge (I can tighten bolts and follow instructions) nor the facilities to attempt a build myself so I would have to rely on a pro kit maker or custom car builder to produce one.

If a custom kit ever becomes available you can bet I will be one to sell the wife to get one!

How about a car that is more a recreation from an alternative universe? What if Honda had supplied the large capacity V12 engine for the F1 project? I too have been bitten by the F1 bug at an early age and am quite motivated to make a roadlegal low volume vehicle for myself, but it is challenging on so many fronts.



Carbuilder, did you ever nut out the windscreen issue? :banghead:

Recently there has been the Brough Built effort from South Africa, quite an interesting BMW V12 and Audi transaxle attempt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIMh-kXNTC8

Yes aquired a windscreen last November but it was a long protracted journey.

Yes aquired a windscreen last November but it was a long protracted journey.


Impressive effort - I take it perseverence is the key? Is it laminated glass with standards approvals - such a critical element to have in hand so that the bodywork cn be built around it. I am building in NZ and unfortunately the last manufacturer of automotive windscreens decided not to keep up their certification so I am left with no domestic options - and I don't like the idea of shipping a very unique and expensive windscreen!

Yes laminated with full UK type aprovals, was actually made by Pilkington at their Italian factory surprisingly so they shipped itall thje way from there to UK with no damage whatsoever. Cost was £995 inclusive. The risky poart is yet to come, that of building a frame to fit without breaking it.

That sir is an absolute bargain! Henry Catchpole said the genuine article was 15K GBP. Recently I read that Mclaren were remaking a batch of glazing for spares for the fleet. I believe the original glasswork was done at St Gobain in Aachen, Germany. Was your screen a piggyback off the remake batch, or is it a custom one off just for your project? I am years off from making a carbon fibre body (the Americas cup guys just up the road from me are too busy building racing boats at the moment!), so my first stage is just a chassis test mule.


Also did you include the cutouts in the leading corners as per the GTR spec?



The nature of laws protecting manufacturer rights have changed as far as replicas are concerned with the Sema replica law allowing designs older than 25 years to be copied. Also the Mclaren F1 patents have now expired and are public domain, meaning we can persue our design goals without infringing anyones IP. However the technicalities of the F1 drivetrain make for some steep challenges so good luck to anyone who tries.

I actually did not ask for a McLaren windscreen I gave them a load of dimensions and a tolerance that I could live with think it was +/- 10mm on widths and +/- 20 on depth and can't be sure but seem to recall +/-5 on curvature mind it did take them 10 months from placing the order and payment up front. Adding those cutouts would have increased the cost disproportianatley so will just have to live with the lack of the cutouts. My timescale is diminishing rapidly as I retire in 2 years and the funds dry up so having to make sacrifices in acuracy, it hurts but I need to see it finished.

That is the problem with a big project like these - although time spent in detail design saves a lot of costly errors from parts not fitting- time marches on relentlessly and physical strength diminishes. I am about 4 years behind where I thought I should be until I had a turning point and I decided this is just an expensive hobby with no results for decades, then hopefully something to be proud of at the end. Like Danie in SA with his LM replica.



Like you I have spent years working out how to fit everything into the envelope of the shell, which is very compact to say the least. I am making a road car since I do not have the budget to go racing and some of the decisions to achieve my project mean super lightweight is not the foremost consideration.


My final design weight with 84 kg driver and 60L of fuel onboard is around 1360 kg, with 540ish engine horsepower and 688Nm of torque. Weight balance is 45/55 due to the fact that I run 2 x 3.5L Honda J35 engines transversely just behind the passengers - that is my big compromise in authenticity because I wanted 7L "V12" capacity with natural aspiration. I also didn't want to have the engine and transaxle hanging out the back, even though that is the certainly the most logical, practical and timely way to get a reliable result.



Did you see my PM?

Second bout of Cancer and 1 year in Covid lockdown has reduced my available time available to complete to 1 year now so unlikely to get to drive it, currently owes me about £25,000 may get it to running chassis stage but bodywork will be up to the next owner.

I have only just come across this thread. I have been collecting various real F1 body panels over the last few years and could take moulds from them if this is something that anybody would be interested in.