03-04 Cobra or 02 WS6???

hi guys..

how about that?? which one would u suggest to buy or if u had chance, which one would you buy? honestly..
after this thread l am definetely gonna decide what l am gonna get. l am goin for trans am 90%.. but l might changemy mind.

thank you

Erdal

both are nice cars....but i feel u can't beat the looks of a WS6. Not to mention, they are way less common then mustangs. You will get more attention. Also....i Ford is still a ford.....even with a fast motor...you will be fixing your "rustang" way more often then a 2002 WS6.

both are nice cars....but i feel u can't beat the looks of a WS6. Not to mention, they are way less common then mustangs. You will get more attention. Also....i Ford is still a ford.....even with a fast motor...you will be fixing your "rustang" way more often then a 2002 WS6.

man l agree with you..

l always think cobras are fast but looks the same as other mustangs and on street everybody got mustangs.. even l saw an 80 year old grandma in a mustang, l wondered if she had enough power on her leg to brrakke and accelerate... also l think she is dead by now:D

ws6 has a really aggressive looks.. as l said l will go with the T/A 90% but l heard those snakes were more relaible than ws6s.. is that correct?

take care man.

Erdal.

This is a tough one. I had the same thread going about a month ago and it went on forever. The 03 cobra is the fastest and most powerful mustang ever sold to the public thats in production. As far as power ifboth drivers are equally talented the cobra will win from just about anywhere. (Dig, roll, etc...) But looks, no one and i mean NO ONE can match the looks of a WS6. Both cars are very reliable. I dont know y ppl think there not. I know some guys who had stangs for over 100K miles w/o a flat tire!! I loved trans am's all my life and probably will for as long as i live. But to be honest i was actually thinking about saving up and buying an 03/04 cobra. Then i thought realistically... im a 18 year old kid, dont have a job, in highschool, and if i did get the cobra id probably wrap myself around a tree in 5 min. Not saying the WS6 is slow. I crashed it twice already.

PS: do u really think a bunch of pontiac guys are gonna give u advice and tell u to buy a ford!!!:lol: :lol: :lol:

PS: do u really think a bunch of pontiac guys are gonna give u advice and tell u to buy a ford!!!:lol: :lol: :lol:

well l know some honest guys in here.. they will tell me what is the truth..;) l am saying again.. l will go with the T/A 90%.

mustangs all look the same, and they're so common nobody even looks twice, even if it is a cobra, personaly, i'd buy the ws6 in a heartbeat, more destictive styling, and pleanty of potential to whoop any mustang.

Confucious say: When choosing car or lady, always go with good looks.

Confucious say: When choosing car or lady, always go with good looks.

Yeah but the ugly ones are ALWAYS more reliable! lol women amd cars!

Yeah but the ugly ones are ALWAYS more reliable! lol women amd cars!


yeah ugly ones are more relaible, and their gas mielage is much much more. women and cars:lol:

have driven both so i think you should too and i think you will be sold on the cobra. true everyon has mustangs, but not everyone has the 03 cobra. someone who beats the everyday gt will wet their pants when you toast them in the cobra. and as far as reliability, i know i guy with the ws6 who has had more problems than i ever did in my 93 5.0.
not a ford, chevy, or mopar man, i just like cars. realistically, can u beat the sound made by the mustang cobra...i hear it in my dreams

02 Ws6 :iceslolan

Cobra.
Hands down.

hmmm id say go with the car thats in better condition... the cobra is a badass car, so is a WS.6 tho. You will definately get noticed in general with the WS.6, and you will only get noticed in the Cobra either by car enthusiasts or nearby people hearing the exhaust, but its not really a head turner like the WS.6

either but the ws6 and set out a copple grand to mod the hell out of it so it is just as fast as the cobra, or buy the cobra. I would mod the ws6 big time!!

previous driver of a mustang and yes a cobra is sick and awesome but its jsut that it looks like a every other mustang and that bothers me alot...
whtas the prices between them if the mustang is a few thousands more that could be spent in the WS6 and u can blow any cobra.
Remember it is still a Ford

You can find Cobras for a couple thousand more than a WS.6 with similiar miles.

It would take that couple thousand to make the WS.6 as fast as the stock Cobra. Note I said 'as fast'
Remember though...for only a thousand on the Cobra you can have roughly 480 RWHP.

ya, if the cobra costs more, put that extra cash into building the ws6 and making it better then the cobra.

one thing you have to remember, if you buy that mustang, no matter how much power you have, no matter how many races you win, 90% of people will still just look at it and say "meh, it's still a ford" don't let that little oval shaped blue crap stain ruin your dreams of having a nice, head turning, powerful car.

one thing you have to remember, if you buy that mustang, no matter how much power you have, no matter how many races you win, 90% of people will still just look at it and say "meh, it's still a ford" don't let that little oval shaped blue crap stain ruin your dreams of having a nice, head turning, powerful car.
It goes both ways.
Ford pony car guys dislike the GM pony cars.
GM pony car guys dislike the Ford pony car.

I like power....give me the Cobra.
Let's put it this way...
I will have over $12K into mods on my WS.6. And for $2K a Cobra will stay dead even with me.

Erdal im gonna be 100% truthfull on this one. GET THE COBRA. I dont mean to be modest or anything, but those cobras are SICK. Go take one for a spin. Quick story. My friend works at a used car place and an 03 black cobra came in for a trade-in. The guy was interseted in a escalade or w/e. so i was there with him and we had to go get gas and we did. At a light there were NO cars in front or behind us. He gunned it and still spun his wheels and at one point had to ease off the gas to regain controll. (this all happened in 2nd) he chirped the wheels all the way into 4th. If i were you id save up a little more (if you need to or havent already) and buy the cobra. if you still cant decide just buy both:lol: :lol: :lol:

It goes both ways.
Ford pony car guys dislike the GM pony cars.
GM pony car guys dislike the Ford pony car.

I like power....give me the Cobra.
Let's put it this way...
I will have over $12K into mods on my WS.6. And for $2K a Cobra will stay dead even with me.


damn man!!!! l thought maybe l could be able to decide which car l am gonna get after this thread but now you guys put me in the middle:D

well, l am glad my wife is working for ford. l get at least 1500 bucks discount.. however much dealer pay for the car, l buy it with that price.. but l love how T/A looks..

l am selling the formula this saturday and getting a 2000 bucks 4 cylinder car for daily driver and as soon as possible get my joy ride but now l am in the middle, cobra or T/A.

l will test drive both cars before l drive, l guess that is the best way..

thanks for your all posts guys..

Erdal

Keep in mind...for much less than I have spent on my Trans Am you could make any other WS.6 a strong as a modded Cobra.
Mine total ran up VERY quickly with the new motor. I am building for even more than that though, which is why I went this route.

Take the WS.6, add bolt-ons and a supercharger. Hello 520 RWHP. Although you are about peaked on the stock block. Which is why I went the route I did. My block and internals should be good to around 800-900 RWHP.

Someday.....I plan on supercharging my 402. Although...that is down the road a couple years.

well since your wife works there, i would probly go for the cobra if it is in good shape and low miles, but do you want stock hp or do you plan on moding alot?

Remember though...for only a thousand on the Cobra you can have roughly 480 RWHP.

....... and STILL only run mid 13's..... which is STILL slower than a(well driven)stock WS6-

They're heavy. The IRS sucks.... half shafts snap like twigs with any kind of real tire. No need to mention wheel hop from hell.

If all you're into is dyno racing, then hey, have at it. If you're into style, AND wanna run a respectable # in stock form then the WS6 hands down. Add a decent rear(can be had used for less), decent tires, and a 150 hit and you're flat embarrassing the 480rwhp cccCobra.

FWIW, my(at the time)bone stock '00WS6 w/only a lid, catback and DR's went 12.8's @ 114 ALL day..... back in the day.

EDIT* You WILL need to be able to DRIVE the car to those times :wink:

Cobra mods better than the WS.6.
Cobra has more power stock than the WS.6.

FWIW, my(at the time)bone stock '00WS6 w/only a lid, catback and DR's went 12.8's @ 114 ALL day..... back in the day.
114 MPH?
Death Valley on a frozen night? Most guys barely trap that with 380+ RWHP.


I do agree that the Cobras have problems with traction/wheel hop. Simple things to fix. Get that power to the ground...game on.
There are Cobras running mid 12's stock also.

Don't get me wrong, I am not defending the Cobra anymore than the WS.6.
I have a WS.6 for a reason.

damn!!! l just checked a web site svtperformance.com. people sell their cobras with a buch of bolts in them and very cheap..

here is the link..

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=254


well u know what.. l am goin with the T/A. you guys are gonna laugh but l am gonna say anyway.. l got 2 reasions.. 1st. l love how T/A looks. and cobras are just a little bit faster than T/As. and 2nd reasions is, l would like to keep hangin in this firbird forum. l dont wanna get somethingelse and change the forum:D l got used to you guys. (fool reasions, l know:D )

the only mod l am thinking is put a twin turbo and exhaust. thats it! l am not gonna put thousands bolts in it.. if l make ok money. l will put twin, if l dont, then it will stay stock.



I CHANGE MY MIND SO QUICKLY.. THIS IS MY PERSONALITY.. I WILL DRIVE BOTH CARS.. MY HEART IS WITH THE T/A.

Cobra mods better than the WS.6.
Cobra has more power stock than the WS.6.

Agreed on both counts. Like I said, if you're into dyno racing-

Agreed on both counts. Like I said, if you're into dyno racing-
My car does just fine dyno racing. :icon16:
Not like the F-Body hooks up that great stock either. Just not as bad as the Cobra.


Erdal...You will be spending 8-9 thousand on a twin turbo set-up. :wink:
If not more.

114 MPH?
Death Valley on a frozen night? Most guys barely trap that with 380+ RWHP.


Yes sir. No sir.... Atlanta Dragway.... Silver Dollar Dragway, Dallas(GA.)Dragway,
Alabama International Dragway(Steele Ala.)

Lowest DA is at SDR(Silver Dollar Dragway)..... around 1100'.
Don't know about most guys, can only speak of my own experiences w/my car.


I do agree that the Cobras have problems with traction/wheel hop. Simple things to fix. Get that power to the ground...game on.
There are Cobras running mid 12's stock also.

Again, only going by what I've seen here in the Southeast. Mid-high 13's the norm in stock form.


I have a WS.6 for a reason.

Agreed.

Impressive!

Maybe you should drive my car for me. :lol:

My car does just fine dyno racing. :icon16:
Not like the F-Body hooks up that great stock either. Just not as bad as the Cobra.


Erdal...You will be spending 8-9 thousand on a twin turbo set-up. :wink:
If not more.


8-9 thousands?? l thought maybe like 5 thousands.. well so forget it then.. (see l changed my mind in a sec. again:lol: )

well then l will ask you guys, what should put in that car.. l dont want thousands mods actually.. l dont wanna be like those civic racers:)

well, u guys say cobras dont have good traction?? why not?? what is IRS? do they have luxury options like T/A has? tractions control?

Cobra mods better than the WS.6.
Cobra has more power stock than the WS.6.

I just saw an add in the paper. K&N guarantee 30 extra ponies at the wheels to an 03 cobra with just a filter. I also just got done watching horsepower TV. They got 55 extra horses from just a power programer. $50 for the filter and $400 for the Programer. Correct me if im wrong, but i dont know a lot of cars that cant get 85 rear wheel horsepower with just $450. I dont even wanna know what headers and exhaust will give you:uhoh:

if you get the t/a, SUPERCHARGE IT!!!! that thing would be bad!! I posted a video a while back about that ls1 gto supercharged, remeber what it sounded like, ya it was bad!! supercharge it and do stuff like exhaust headers gears and crap like that.

yeah cobras have T/C. The interior on those things are so hot. Hell they have suede trim on their seats:eek: As far as performance goes, i know Ford Racing builds some pretty nasty stuff for the cobra.

l am sold on cobra!!!

now we disown you,lol i am just jokin.

Impressive!

Maybe you should drive my car for me. :lol:

Where are you at? Could it be high DA's (or low grade oxygenated/Cali./West Coast/emissions friendly pump gas)hurting times?

Actually, yer stuff oughta' be perty impressive once you get the bugs ironed out.... been following your threads over at Tech.

Erdal, I swear if it were me I'd do the WS6 w/a 150 wet hit and call it good :grinyes: but at the end of the day it doesn't matter as long as YOU are happy w/the car.

Good luck and happy modding!

Where are you at? Could it be high DA's (or low grade oxygenated/Cali./West Coast/emissions friendly pump gas)hurting times?

Actually, yer stuff oughta' be perty impressive once you get the bugs ironed out.... been following your threads over at Tech.
Thanks!
Been a little too tired/lazy/busy with crap around the house to get out to the garage recently.
Got some issues I have to deal with. Maybe this weekend, maybe not. Gotta finish my damn kitchen sink too.
Last time I ran....8200+ DA. :rolleyes:
91 octane...but that is plenty because the altitude lowers compression. I just wish they wouldn't charge us the same for 91 as everyone else for 93.

Erdal, I swear if it were me I'd do the WS6 w/a 150 wet hit and call it good :grinyes: but at the end of the day it doesn't matter as long as YOU are happy w/the car.

Good luck and happy modding!


l am getting 2k discount on cobra.. but l am new here.. so l will buy a trans am too.. but now l am sold on cobras.. they are fast, supercharged and a guy say, that he put 100 whp to his 04 cobra with 700 bucks.. he said he spent 700 bucks and he dynoed it was 460whp. he said, stock cobra dynos 360 whp.

well l will post u when l get the car..

thank you..


Luos, good luck on your kitchen sink, 2 days ago l was into sink but l am done and it was pain in the ass:lol:


Erdal

Just gotta finish the woodwork under it. The plumbing is done.
Thanks though!!

You would enjoy either car Erdal!

There is nothing sweeter than blowing the doors off a Cobra!

So what are the cost differences? Milage, body condition, color prefrence, etc.?

All these play an important part in a decision like this. but me- I'd drive a rusty old chevy pickup before I drive a ford...

Now if you said 69 Mach One or 72 Cuda - I would hope I wouldnt have to make THAT decision... :)

Blowing the doors of a cobra????? didnt u read Mr. Luos's post. By the time its said with and done, hell have over $12,000 invested in his WS6. For just $2,000 a cobra can keep right up along with him.

Blowing the doors of a cobra????? didnt u read Mr. Luos's post. By the time its said with and done, hell have over $12,000 invested in his WS6. For just $2,000 a cobra can keep right up along with him.

I still say WS6 w/a TNT F1(150 WET)kit, a lid, a cut-out, a gear and some decent tires will spank the pullied/chipped/"exhausted" cobra. Just my humble real world opinion.

For WAY under $12k. More like under $2500.00. The nearly same amount spent on the cobra mods.

Your call.....

I still say WS6 w/a TNT F1(150 WET)kit, a lid, a cut-out, a gear and some decent tires will spank the pullied/chipped/"exhausted" cobra. Just my humble real world opinion.

For WAY under $12k. More like under $2500.00. The nearly same amount spent on the cobra mods.

Your call.....
Exactly.
Like I mentioned, there are plenty of MUCH cheaper options to outrun Cobras.

Not to mention the COST of the Cobra to begin with

l can get a cobra under 10k miles, with 25.000 bucks.. condition should be good or excellent. because it is under 10k miles and also our dealership owner friend would never sell us a bad car.. so he sad he will check everything and if everything is in perfect condition, that time he will call us.. now he is looking for 04 cobra.. and l told him l do not want a modified one. l want bone stock.. if l would be racer, l would ask modified one.. hopefully in a month or mostly couple months l will get one..

next saturday, GOODBYE to my LT1 formula.. and getting 2000 bucks honda or toyota for daily driver.

Erdal

i've seen many, many race video's of t/a's vs. cobra's, and 85% of them, have the t/a's kicking the cobra's ass, and i feel pride every single time i see it


check it out, i like this vid, t/a whoops the cobra 3 times in a row lol


http://www3.telus.net/public/1224/TAvsCOBRA.wmv

check it out, i like this vid, t/a whoops the cobra 3 times in a row lol


http://www3.telus.net/public/1224/TAvsCOBRA.wmv
I don't believe the T/A's mod list, leaving something out.
Or the Cobra driver can't drive.

I am not biased either way.
I love my Trans Am, but love the Cobra's as well.

next saturday, GOODBYE to my LT1 formula.. and getting 2000 bucks honda or toyota for daily driver.

Erdal

dont even joke like that.

being me though i look at the car in categories: powertrain, ride quality, interior, exterior, looks, ect. when you drive the cars, think of this. the mustang might have in cadin noise, and you feel every damn pebble. but then again the TA might have loose steering or less control then the mustang. but both cars are very fast, have huge aftermarkets, and both are just plain monsters. the firebird has its looks and it is beautiful, but the mustang just looks mean. so i guess it could go either way.

the only reasion l am getting rid of my LT1 formula is, it might break down again.. l hear noises sometimes and it makes me nervous. and it is auto. l dont like auto.. l am getting a manual tranmission honda or toyota and they are relabile. but if l have the money l will get a trans am too.. l wanna collect cars but sure l need money and it will take time to have money.. cuz l am a newbie it the states..

l will be on firebird forum as usual..

thank you..

Erdal

Where are you from Erdal?

Where are you from Erdal?


l am from Atlanta,GA.

as soon as l sell my house, l and my wife will move to chicago.

whats up man?

Erdal

"snake eater." creative. go cobra. or at least supercharge the 5.7. i will respect you either way.

so, doodad did you decide yet?

doodad just asked cause you said .. cuz l am a newbie it the states..

thats all - kewl!
think I'd like Atlanta better than Chicago but I know we gotta go there the job is...

There is nothing sweeter than blowing the doors off a Cobra!

So what are the cost differences? Milage, body condition, color prefrence, etc.?

All these play an important part in a decision like this. but me- I'd drive a rusty old chevy pickup before I drive a ford...

Now if you said 69 Mach One or 72 Cuda - I would hope I wouldnt have to make THAT decision... :)

Easy hands down 72 cuda :)

Easy hands down 72 cuda :)

totally :grinyes:

I'd go cobra, more power right off the bat, and modded engines tend to have more trouble than stock engines from my experience, what comes from the factory is usally pretty good. just my two cents.
Jake

I'd go cobra, more power right off the bat, and modded engines tend to have more trouble than stock engines from my experience, what comes from the factory is usally pretty good. just my two cents.
Jake

So true. Aftermarket parts tend to act funny later on down the road. PLUS if you ever think about selling the car (i dont know if you will or have to later on) you dont have to worry about all the aftermarket parts effecting the resale value.