What motor?

ok, so i am going to later switch my 305 with a 350, and i was looking at the lt1 but i have been reading up and it looks like way to much work with tranny and fuel and all of that so i think i am just going to find a 350 tpi and totaly rebuild it, new heads and all the good stuf, what do you guys think? and how much hp can you get out of a 350 tpi with out a turbo or now or a supercharger? i plan on just like cam heads better internals but it still has to pass emisions. So how much do you think i can punch out of it?

Just Do It If You Got The Money Do The Lt1 Swap. Im Thinking Of Doing It To Just Unsure, Be Cause I Only Have 50,000 Miles On My Car,and The Only Motor I Can Find Around Were I Live Has 54000miles On It.

i don't have the money tho, i am a broke student, lol. So i am saving up and doing little stuff to my car like cam headers, exhaust..ect.. And when i get all the money i think i will get a 350 tpi and build a bad ass one, but still have to pass emisions. Does any one know how much i can get out of my motor when i sell it? it is a 305 tbi and by then i will have lt1 cam port polished heads, headers, msd ignition, and probly 454 tbi. I now have 120,000 so i do not know how manny miles will be on it then.

i think you should just work with what you have, then, once you can afford it, look into a swap.

Do A Swap Or Get A Knew Car

ya that is what i am going to do, do some stuff with the one i got then when i get the money i am going to do the 350 tpi swap, because the lt1 is to much work and i don't want to mess with the tranny. How much does a rebuildable 350 tpi go for? about $700? if i am lucky?

you do know that by switching from tbi to tpi you will still have to upgrade the fuel system, get a new ecm, eliminate the speed buffer, and some other things that i can't think of cuz i'm tired... you can get a used 350 (not tpi) for dirt ass cheap, rebuild it, and just throw a better tbi set up on it... since you didn't want to mess with the fuel system and stuff...

I hate to keep mentioning thirdgen.org but there is a guy selling the whole top of his motor which includes lt1 heads, modified lt1 intake(modified to use a ditributor), the fuel lines needed to convert from tpi to lt1, and the trans brackets and everything else needed for the swap. All you would need then is an lt1 short block. I think hes selling it for about 500 dollars which is a freakin awsome deal for all that stuff. But like mentioned before you would have to revamp your entire fuel system.

I thought all the motors (86 -89?)even 2.8's used the 165 ECM, just a different prom and some other reference files that would have to be redone?

no unfortunately a tbi and tpi ecm is different, the proms are not interchangable... if you ever get a chance to see, the tbi and tpi proms are dramatically different... tpi and 2.8 might have had the same ones since they both used port injection... but i do know that tbi and tpi pcms are different...

meh, figures, goofball electronics.... some day the Y2k bug will stirke and we'll all be thrown back into a sane vacuum operated world :D

Hahaha!!

i don't minde messing with the fuel stuff, it is i just don't want to swap the tranny. So what do you think i should put it in? a 350 tbi? or a 350 tpi? And will i still be able to get soem hp out of the tbi 350? because that is why i am switing to the 350 because it is hard to get power out of my 305 tbi.

with that lt1 motor i mentioned you can use the tpi ecm. You will just have to tune it for it to run right.

ya but i don't want to mess with switching the tranny, i wish they made a convertion plate or someting that would make it fit. So i will just keep looking and how much hp can you get out if a 350tbi with out now or supercharger? and it still be able to pass emissions?

an lt1 will bolt up fine to a 700r4... no issues...

hells yea

what? ithat was the whole reason i was looking at a 350 tpi instead. I thought they could only go to the other tranny?

the lt1 is a gen II small block chevy... it will bolt up to the same things that a 305tbi tpi or 350tpi does... works with any third gen tranny... plus guys swap in t56's (only lt1 t56's not ls1) on their 305 tbi and tpi's... isn't the gen II sbc great?

nope, that's the LS1 that won't work with the 700

but to answer ur earlier question... can you make power out of a 350 tbi? just ask geno... he kept the tbi setup... btw geno, get me up to date on the project, is it finished?

well crap then, lt1 you might be comming after all. on www.tbichips.com he is making a 92 camaro a lt1 and he has alot of info on there. And what all fuel stuff do i have to do when i get the lt1?

just different fuel lines (not hard lines, but from the hardlines to the fuel rail) and a more powerful fuel pump (that's the hard part of the fuel system, dropping the tank...)

storm, getting ready to hook the trans to the motor then drop back into the car. I'm just slow and low on budget.

i hear ya there... unless you take more than a year and a half, you'll still have me beat on down time...

If you decide to go the LT1 route and are looking for a inexpensive motor. Shoot me a PM. I have a few in the garage. I can shoot you some pics. They have some good deals on ebay and threw local salvage yards as well though and you might be better off finding a local LT1 so as to not having a freight charge.

i'm getting close to 2yrs, but I did a lot more, and the car wasn't actually "down" until I decided to do the motor swap which began exactly one year ago.

it took two years for me technically, but the car was down for a year and a half...

i did the lowering kit and suspension rebuild first, but drove the car once after that before i started to pull the motor last jan/feb.

me too... i did the rear end swap and all my suspension mods (save the crossmember and torque arm) a few months before i actually pulled the engine...

i still gotta do my rear-end and body work.

i know it's a hella lot of work and labor no question....but what about it takes 2 years? i'm not saying it doesn't, i'm just trying to learn what to watch out for

well for me, money, and a full time job that takes over 50hrs a week, finding out about other things you need that you can't just get around the corner at the store...etc.

sorry but, when i do the lt1 swap what all do i need because i am trying to track down some parts now if i can get good deals and so i can keep a look out. I know i need fuel lines and pump. But is there any other things like ecu and that suff? And do i have to change supention?

yeah i hadnt really figured in that last part with other little stuff you cant just get easily....in my imaginary would i'd end up with everything i need and it'd go smoothly, i bet there will end up being a million little things i could never imagine needing.....thanks

yea, there's all kinds of little roadblocks that pop up. the worse one so far was when i was putting the #5 piston in place and the cylinder wall getting scratched in the process. we had to re-hone it.

thats why i got a pre assembled engine....to lessen the chance of me f'n up cos i know how it'd go with my luck

I Think The Best Way To Do It And Get All The Parts Is To Ask People And Talk To People Around Your Area Maybe Some Shop Or Someone Will Have Some Experence In This Project. Im Sure You Could Find Someone, Because Your Going To Need Help With Something Its Not Going To Just Go Together Perfect.

my family owns a body shop and i have every tool imaginable at my disposal and i have help if i need it so i agree i know i'll need help with somethings....just wondering what some of the more common things are....thanks

Im Not Sure What Your Trying To Do. I Posted That Last Post For Another Post. But What Do You Want To Do.

im doing a big block swap.....i was just wondering what took so much time...i know its very expensive and a TON of work and time...just wondering what kind of little snags to try to be prepared for that takes the most time.....i want this done and over with

i know what i am going to do, don't get in a hurry, because that is when i fuck things up.

Are You Trying To Do This On Your Camaro In The Pics On Your Sig

WHAT Big Block Are You Getting And Trans

yeah its the maro in my sig....its a 402 BB which is a 396 bored .032 over and was used in the 1st gen 'maros and labeled a 396 cos of their 400 ci limit they had for the cars then.....i still need everything else tho....its going to a t56 tho as i decide on how much power im planning on i will get a tranny....and i agree i know im gonna have to take my time....but i figure if i can put ttops in my car i can do anything!.....i hope

things you're going to NEED, new fuel pump, new harness, pcm, different radiator, new intake ducts... you'll need several other things... but what else you need is determined by what you want to do with emissions, air conditioning, power steering, what type of accessory bracket you use, there a million decisions to make, and i'm too tired to write a novel and tell you what you're going to need for each different combination of decisions... sorry

lol, i see your point, but i will not have a/c but i have to have p/s and still have to pass emmisions.

The Trickiest Part Will Be The Wireing The Whole Car Will Need Rewired, Hopefully You Can Match The Harness.

Is It Going To Be Fuel Injected
Are You Planning On This To Still Be A Daily Driver

lol im not trying to learn what i need...thanks for the reply tho....i know what i need....i've spent hundreds of hours researching this....i was just wondering some of the little snags that you guys never expected but experienced that was time consuming...so hopefully i can avoid them

and i know i should just edit one of the last 2 posts i made.....but yay! no passing emissions for me!! HA!

Wow Thats Going To Be Awsome. I Never Heard Of A 396 In A 4th Gen Car. But To Do The V6 Conversion Makes It That Much Better

How Long You Think It Will Take You To Get Running. I Just Thought Of Something Else, Your Getting A Used Engine So Tuneing It Will Bring Some Snags With That But Thats A Way Off.

its a new engine...i found a company that made them...just with the specs that they had back then....i'm hoping by the time i get the tranny and such and everything gathered i want to have it done in a couple months...ASAP basicially....thats why i was wondering what little things come up that usually isnt expected....cos i'm sure i'll run into every problem known to god and man

coming up with everything i need for the v6 to v8 swap has been time consuming in itself....just trying to get a jump on things....i would like to have the car done in 1 year from today......

as for me, it will be a daily driver, and i am talking to formulalt1 about a lt1 motor and all the stuff.

as for me, it will be a daily driver, and i am talking to formulalt1 about a lt1 motor and all the stuff.

that's awesome...i would like to keep mine a daily driver....but i dont see much practicality in having a big block for a daily driver......when you get started you should take tons of pics!

ya i am, because i don't even have a pic of my car yet since i had it, so i never posted a pic of it on here so will do a befor and after pic and some other ones.

if your on a budget do a carbed engine more room for upgrades later plus way cheaper and easyer.

ya, but i will get carried away with a carbed motor, and then i will not be able to pass the emisions.

fuel injection the whole way!!

yep, and i will get better mpg with injection also.

What Kind Of Price Are You Trying To Spend On The Lt1 Conversion