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tenguzero
11-25-2005, 06:09 PM
http://www.anandtech.com/news/shownews.aspx?i=25321


I'm going to go out on a limb here, and announce that I couldn't care less about the Xbox 360 -- as a matter of fact, I don't think there's been a videogame system made that's generally worth a damn since the Dreamcast. Say, what stupid Final Fantasy version are they up to now? How may gigaflops of calculations can the system's GPU push? Is there another empty, mindless GTA game being dumped out for it? Can it clean my toilet and wash my dishes in addition to all the other useless home entertainment-centered, pricetag raising crap packed into it?

And is all this really worth robbing someone for? Apparently. And apparently it's also worth paying thousands of dollars to some shark on Ebay as well.

I don't think Microsoft has any idea how to build a videogame system. I don't think Sony has a creative bone in their bodies when it comes to game licensing. I think Nintendo knows how to build a videogame system, and probably has the second best in-house game design team in the business (behind the late Sega AM2 team, of course) but has neither the might of Microsoft nor the market share of Sony required to get it out there.

The industry is do for another crash -- I just can't believe it's still holding up. How many more wallet-raping systems and half-assed games and gimmicky handhelds can be pushed out into the market before it reaches critical mass? Where are you people getting the time and money for this stuff? And WHY ARE SCUMBAGS ROBBING PEOPLE OVER A STUPID GAME SYSTEM!

bluechevelle
11-25-2005, 06:48 PM
I can see yor point that people are spending way to much time and money on something you consider to be useless. I agree that the 360 is overrated and the PS3 will be when it comes out. The only reason you say that Sony and Microsoft are unoriginal is this: they were not first to come up with the video game. Nintendo was the one to really start the craze and they set the example. I will tell you this however, Sony and Microsoft have done more for the buisnes than Nintendo could have ever dreampt of.

jon@af
11-25-2005, 07:08 PM
I'm getting a gamecube soon, simply because it's low enough in price that I'll pay for it and it's got a lot of titles that I can play with my friends. I'll own an Xbox360 when it's been out for a couple of years and is worth as much as the regular Xbox is now:smile:.

Manny_boy
11-25-2005, 07:48 PM
It gets worse... one of the winning bids on ebay is $12,900.00!! :screwy: WTF! I could do a lot better things with near 13 grand.

Here's the real kicker: the systems are reportedly "freezing" after about 40 mins. of gameplay. I don't know what they use in the console as far as a graphics card/chip , but it sounds like its overheating, just like an overworked pc graphics card.

Jonno
11-25-2005, 08:38 PM
Should always wait a while before getting something that has just come out, so they can work the bugs out. Whether it be Game consoles or cars...

MagicRat
11-25-2005, 09:45 PM
I don't mean to sound sarcastic, but it must be nice to have the time to play video games. I find between work, family, chores (and AF of course) I have no extra time at all.

Rally Sport
11-26-2005, 12:09 AM
Here's the real kicker: the systems are reportedly "freezing" after about 40 mins. of gameplay. I don't know what they use in the console as far as a graphics card/chip , but it sounds like its overheating, just like an overworked pc graphics card.

I bet that it is overheating, just like the problem that is going on in the new slimmer PS2, you cant play it for extended periods of time because it overheats cause of not enough ventilation or space for big fans or enough of them. You can have this happen to your graphics card if you dont put a fan on them. Its kinda like an engine except this just shuts down.

sickcallawayc12
11-26-2005, 12:13 AM
I can see yor point that people are spending way to much time and money on something you consider to be useless. I agree that the 360 is overrated and the PS3 will be when it comes out. The only reason you say that Sony and Microsoft are unoriginal is this: they were not first to come up with the video game. Nintendo was the one to really start the craze and they set the example. I will tell you this however, Sony and Microsoft have done more for the buisnes than Nintendo could have ever dreampt of.
I agree. Nintendo doesn't have cool realistic games like Gran Turismo or any Madden, NBA Live, or Tiger Woods though. you have to give sony credit. Screw microsoft. If anyone knows how to make gaming systems, it's the japanese, not us.

drunken monkey
11-26-2005, 01:00 AM
replace all cases of game console related nouns with car related nouns and what do you get?

Hobbes
11-26-2005, 01:01 AM
Nintendo has been and always will be devoted to the arcade style and the youth market. I just brought a Gamecube a couple of weeks ago and I'm enjoying it; although my biggest complaint is that they are pushing the Mario Party line too fast.

Sony is doing good so far, but I really don't know the fate of the PS3 until launch

For Microsoft, I don't even have the XBox. Will I get one? Probably not. It somehow doesn't appeal to me. I also feel sorry for those who brought the 360 without the hard drive. Microsoft is a slick sumbitch for pulling that stunt.

As for Sega, they are not completely gone. I bet they will come out of the dark guns blazing with a new system that will definitely Sony and Microsoft's ass again.

MBTN
11-26-2005, 01:12 AM
Sega doesn't have the power to make a new system anymore, they just develop games now.

Muscletang
11-26-2005, 02:20 AM
Yeah it is a little sad but you're making a big deal out of it. So what if a bunch of nerds want to spend their money on something. Is it really hurting you though?
There are worse things out there, like MTV's show Sweet 16. Spending $350,000 for your kids 16th birthday is nothing to a few grand for a 360. Remember, there will always be people out their with more money than brains and there's nothing we can do about it.

Now for the kid getting ripped and the armed robber, that will hurt you and it's pathetic for a game system.
Remember though, a few years ago a kid got killed in New York City because he had the latest pair of Air Jordans and a couple of guys wanted them.

What's worse, stealing almost $1,000 worth of computer hardware, or killing somebody for some shoes?

P.S. As for the 360 freezing up after 40 minutes, I think it's a rumor or has only happened to a few people. I've played my 360 for almost 5 hours without anything happening and it running good and strong.

Mustangman25
11-26-2005, 10:42 AM
A fool and his money are soon parted...people with too much money never know what to do with it...oddly enough, when it comes to paying for services, those that have money are often the cheapest tippers in my experience, while those that don't have as much are willing to dig a little deeper to reward good service.

flatlander757
11-26-2005, 11:09 AM
Sega was always ahead of it's time... do you remember the GameGear? Just recently a handheld system came out that could rival that(PSP).

TexasF355F1
11-26-2005, 01:18 PM
All Microsoft did was try and jump the gun to get the first sells. The only people buying the 360 are the die-hard XBoxers and the kids, umm...adults, who need something to kill time before the PS3 comes out. Sony will undoubtably go back seeing what problems occur with the 360 and ensure they dont with theirs. Sony will continue to rein as champ of the consoles.

sickcallawayc12
11-26-2005, 02:35 PM
Sega was always ahead of it's time... do you remember the GameGear? Just recently a handheld system came out that could rival that(PSP).
same with the dreamcast. didn't it have a modem built in?

-Jayson-
11-26-2005, 02:42 PM
yeah dreamcast had a built in modem and a broad band adapter for it. But to be totally honest, 99% of dreamcast games werent that great. Not indepth enough for me.

Im getting a PSP for xmas from my gf. Man that thing is sweet.

sickcallawayc12
11-26-2005, 02:45 PM
I think i'm gonna buy a whole bunch of sega stuff for myself on ebay in the next few weeks. man i miss sonic the hedgehog :iceslolan

imtheoneandonlyD
11-26-2005, 03:31 PM
A fool and his money are soon parted...people with too much money never know what to do with it...oddly enough, when it comes to paying for services, those that have money are often the cheapest tippers in my experience, while those that don't have as much are willing to dig a little deeper to reward good service.


Odd how the people with the most money are the ones who DONT tip well. Just think about that for a second in case your not getting it. The ones who are conserving their money have more....makes complete sense to me.

bluechevelle
11-26-2005, 03:42 PM
A fool and his money are soon parted...people with too much money never know what to do with it...oddly enough, when it comes to paying for services, those that have money are often the cheapest tippers in my experience, while those that don't have as much are willing to dig a little deeper to reward good service.

I'll explain this to you. Those with money have worked for it and appreciate it. They know how hard it is to make, so the are not willing to give you hefty tip for simply doing your job. This is not always the case, there are exeptions. Those who do not have money and are the ones who you say tip the best, probbly work i the 9-5 job and they have only ever known that is "right"to tip big.

imtheoneandonlyD
11-26-2005, 03:53 PM
Its not about tipping "big". I deliver pizza and get tips so i know how this goes. Now when there is a huge order i expect a bigger tip IE 10-15% is FAIR. Now i say a "big" order is 50+ dollars. Anything under that and i would say 2-3 bucks is a fair tip. At my job we charge 1.50 for delivery that the driver gets no matter what, just in case some a-hole tips nothing. Its also about generosity and being appreciative for a sevice provided.


Now some people would say, "well what do you tip when you eat out/delivery" It all depends on the service. If i goto a resturant and have no problems, ill tip 4-5 bucks easy. Generally its only my girlfriend and I, so the bills are around 20-25 bucks normally.

Now if i have to ask for refills on pop or to get silverware, they are lucky to get a buck. Generally they should be paying attention and just know that if my glass is getting empty to bring another one, or ask if i would like another one.

v10_viper
11-26-2005, 04:19 PM
Now if i have to ask for refills on pop or to get silverware, they are lucky to get a buck. Generally they should be paying attention and just know that if my glass is getting empty to bring another one, or ask if i would like another one.

Unless the person is a complete asshole I tip pretty generously, at least 5 bucks or more. If the person doesn't refill my cup right away or something like that I generally let that slide, because sometimes, especially if they're female, they can be receiving shit from other people and they dont always need to put up with that, there's no way I could handle being a waiter so I just try to be nice to them and say thank you as much as possible it seems.

Back on topic, I'll keep my ps2 until the next Gran Turismo comes out for the better graphics and such, but until this is all I need and I don't play a ton of different games, usually just racing games and I'll only play a few at the max. I'm not someone who needs 30+ games.

tenguzero
11-26-2005, 06:51 PM
Sony will undoubtably go back seeing what problems occur with the 360 and ensure they dont with theirs. Sony will continue to rein as champ of the consoles.

Ahh, my point is proven -- always the imitators, never the innovators. Very rarely does the Playstation family and innovation go hand in hand. Is it an effective business strategy? Sure it is -- it's one of the reasons why they're on top right now. The interesting thing is, if it hadn't for Sony and Nintendo's chaotic partnership in the early 90's (look into the original release plans for the Super Nintendo CD system) Sony may never even have gotten a leg up into the industry. And of course, while the then-VERY aggressive Nintendo company was doing what they've always done best (not play ball well with others) and Sony was gifted with a bunch of R&D and marketting experience from their failed collaboration with Nintendo, Sega was forging ahead as always, and releasing the SegaCD (even though the actual credit for the first mass-market addon AND standalone CD console goes to TTI's TurboDuo.) Nintendo made the fatal mistake (at least from a marketing standpoint) of pursuing the SuperFX chip, and then continuing on with the cartridge-based N64 (two missed chances to get into the CD medium.) Meanwhile (after a couple years of making life difficult for us devotees by releasing several different systems) Sega released the Saturn, which to this day is STILL a damn 2D powerhouse, especially when teamed with the 1 and 4 meg memory cartridges. This system also brought us some of the most incredible and creative games in history (Panzer Dragoon, Nights, Radiant Silvergun -- even Shenmue was originally begun as a Saturn game.) Unfortunately, the masses demanded something else, and Playstation hit the market catering fully to this demand -- the desire for 3D gaming. No matter how crappy or uninventive the games, if it sold, Sony slapped a license on it. Now licking its wounds and swallowing its pride, Nintendo focused on what they had always done best -- gaming. Some great games came out for the N64, and out-of-the-box four-player support proved a great strategy. Meanwhile, Sega was ramping up for the Dreamcast, and on 9/9/99 they released another wonderful system, supporting four players AND internet right out of the box (something else they had pioneered years earlier in the late Genesis/early Saturn life.) The Dreamcast also had the Visual Memory Units, which were a really cool idea. Sony then released the PS2 -- complete with numerous flaws and a poor launch library. Microsoft jumped in with their console, and were able to get into the market by sheer muscle alone -- let's face it, the Xbox really had nothing great to offer aside from 4 player support (which Sony STILL wasn't offering) and a couple fluke hits. Which brings us to today.

Out of all the systems I own, the one's I use the most are my Dreamcast and Saturn, followed by my PS2. I have Halo for the PC, and frankly I don't see what the big deal is (it strikes me as a better than average FPS at best.) Aside from that maybe I'd pick up a GameCube or something, because there's some good games for it. And I respect Nintendo for keeping it real -- designing a videogame system focused on gaming (no home entertainment/DVD/other unnecessary stuff.)

Of course, like others have noted, free time and money to spend on videogaming is more of a luxury now, as opposed to when I was younger. And it's harder for me to justify sitting down to game when I could be reading a book, or outside getting exercise. Although now that Winter's here... :rolleyes:

flatlander757
11-26-2005, 10:36 PM
The absolute BEST game for anyone witha Dreamcast is FurFighters... if you haven't played it.. it's awesome and you need to!!! It's like super mario bros + 007 Goldeneye + Sonic the Hedgehog all in one! :iceslolan 3 bitchin games! :biggrin:

But I must say the PS2 at this time seems to be the best because there are so many games for it, and although I agree it is nice that Nintendo is "keeping it real," it really is nice that I can play DVDs on my PS2 because paying ~$180 for my PS2, I turned around and sold my DVD player on ebay for ~$140 :smile:

So would you say it's fair to sum it up like this?:

-Sega= the innovative company
-Nintengo= the slow but once-caught-up knows how to do it right company
-Microsoft= the greedy asshole company? :lol:

sickcallawayc12
11-27-2005, 12:26 AM
The absolute BEST game for anyone witha Dreamcast is FurFighters... if you haven't played it.. it's awesome and you need to!!! It's like super mario bros + 007 Goldeneye + Sonic the Hedgehog all in one! :iceslolan 3 bitchin games! :biggrin:

But I must say the PS2 at this time seems to be the best because there are so many games for it, and although I agree it is nice that Nintendo is "keeping it real," it really is nice that I can play DVDs on my PS2 because paying ~$180 for my PS2, I turned around and sold my DVD player on ebay for ~$140 :smile:

So would you say it's fair to sum it up like this?:

-Sega= the innovative company
-Nintengo= the slow but once-caught-up knows how to do it right company
-Microsoft= the greedy asshole company? :lol:
I actually played tony hawk 2 for dreamcast and never played it on any other game system until recently. I like it on dreamcast better than ps2 let alone n64. I also think the ps2 is king and will stay king till the ps3 at least. I probably will still keep a good running one even after a purchase of ps3 cuz i'm kind of a classic guy that way. Maybe i'll invest in more games and ps2 accessories than buying an xbox 360, then again, the 360 has the new version of perfect dark. Give them that, even if it's the only thing you give it. After all, Perfect Dark is probably my most favorite game of all time from any system.

HighOctaneNOSUser
11-27-2005, 12:28 AM
-Sega= the innovative company
-Nintengo= the slow but once-caught-up knows how to do it right company
-Microsoft= the greedy asshole company? :lol:
That pretty much sums it up except for

Sony-The "Like-the-dumb-kid-who-always-looked-at-your-paper-for answers-in-school" company

bluechevelle
11-27-2005, 01:19 AM
And I suppose microsoft diddn't copy the ps1 , did they. Not to say sony diddn't copy whoever came out before that.

BleedDodge
11-27-2005, 01:20 AM
Where were you on September 30th, 1996?

HighOctaneNOSUser
11-27-2005, 01:40 AM
Come to think of it, I actually don't remember. Why, Where were you?

BleedDodge
11-27-2005, 01:47 AM
I went to school that day.

It was the day the much anticipated Nintendo 64 was released. I didn't get mine until April '97 though. I still have it.

knorwj
11-27-2005, 01:54 PM
to be completely honest I have always been a nintendo fan and after switching teams and buying a PS2 instead of a gamecube have learned my lesson... I'm waiting for nintendo.


I was checking out some 360 graphics at wal-mart today and to be completely honest I think the gamecube has better graphics than it. The game that was being played reminded me of the graphics in legend of zelda windwaker. Now if these supposed next generation consoles can't beat the graphics of a game that is already 3-years old then forget it. (this game was also supposedly in hi-def mode as well)

Another thing I hate is the fact that these companies are trying to make a all-in-one system. Meaning dvd/cd/video game/etc. Well to be quite honest I already have a quite nice entertainment center. I don't need a knew one, all i want is a video game and I think they need to offer a bare bones console of just video gaming not everything else.

flatlander757
11-27-2005, 04:24 PM
We need a game system that makes holographic images and can play porno too :lol2:

imtheoneandonlyD
11-28-2005, 01:04 AM
Ah, the good ole N64, i still have mine along with 007. One of the best multiplayer games ever made.

Jet-Lee
11-28-2005, 09:29 AM
how much did that computer cost, that you are sitting at typing on here?

WELL DAMMIT!!! THE DAMN THING BETTER VACUUM DO MY LAUNDRY AND WASH THE DISHES FOR $700!!!!!!!!

STFU.

Damien
11-28-2005, 09:47 AM
http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/Infographic-Xbox-360-C.article.jpg

I was gonna do that [ebay] and I passed it up. Damn!

Rally Sport
11-28-2005, 10:10 AM
^ :lol: Thats funny. But yeah ive seen some gameplay footage and really the graphics arent that better than what we have now. Except for the fact that people's shirts are now wrinkled and crap.

knorwj
11-28-2005, 10:26 AM
how much did that computer cost, that you are sitting at typing on here?

WELL DAMMIT!!! THE DAMN THING BETTER VACUUM DO MY LAUNDRY AND WASH THE DISHES FOR $700!!!!!!!!

STFU.


wtf are you talking about? I'm sure most people use computers for alot more than playing a video game, and i'm also sure that most people didn't wait in line for 12 hours to get a computer.

Neutrino
11-28-2005, 12:31 PM
how much did that computer cost, that you are sitting at typing on here?

WELL DAMMIT!!! THE DAMN THING BETTER VACUUM DO MY LAUNDRY AND WASH THE DISHES FOR $700!!!!!!!!

STFU.




Hmmm let’s see mine does a few things:

Helps me with my studies (vital actually)
Holds boatloads of movies and music albums (all high quality encodings)
Allows me to watch foreign TV shows (Top Gear etc...)
It’s hooked up to the TV and surround sound so I can watch all of the above properly
It holds all my photos
It helps edit all my home movies and photos
I use it for shopping, banking and other financial needs
I get all my news on it
I use it to argue with people on the internet about the usefulness and value of computers;)
.....


Oh and yeah the vacuum and dish attachments are on the way

Jet-Lee
11-28-2005, 01:54 PM
When you buy an XBox or XBox360, you are buying a computer. You are buying a computer that has a sole purpose of gaming. You can modify it, and use it as a regular computer, for cheaper than the off-the-shelf systems. I don't see him bitching about iPod video, or GPS systems, or software even. He is bitching about the cost of A computer. That's like me bitching about paying $3k for my fiance's car when I payed $4k for mine. Or bitching about paying $80 for running shoes when I paid $120 for climbing/walking shoes. It's like whiping before you poop, it just doesn't make sense!

tenguzero
11-28-2005, 05:29 PM
When you buy an XBox or XBox360, you are buying a computer. You are buying a computer that has a sole purpose of gaming. You can modify it, and use it as a regular computer, for cheaper than the off-the-shelf systems. I don't see him bitching about iPod video, or GPS systems, or software even. He is bitching about the cost of A computer. That's like me bitching about paying $3k for my fiance's car when I payed $4k for mine. Or bitching about paying $80 for running shoes when I paid $120 for climbing/walking shoes. It's like whiping before you poop, it just doesn't make sense!


:screwy: Whatever man :grinno:

If I wanted to bitch about GPS systems or iPod videos or whatnot, I would've started a thread doing just that. This is about videogame systems though. And the fact that these are videogame systems, and NOT computers or GPS or whatnot. And technically my bitch was about people feeling the need to rob others for these TOYS. The secondary issue evolved into the fact that these things, as toys, should be just that. I don't doubt it's nice for people who DO use them in multiple scenarios, but for the majority of us, we really don't need all the whizbang features they pack into these systems, because they just raise the price and add to the potential for failure. That's why I was noting my recognition of Nintendo for their effort to keep the system as what it should be -- a VIDEOGAME system, concentrating entirely on gaming. And you know what? The Gamecube DID end up being less expensive, even though it was probably the most technically superior of the four! Also, of the Dreamcast, Gamecube, Xbox, and PS2, which ones experienced the most hardware problems -- problems ultimately NOT related directly to the GAMING part of the systems? Here's a hint: only two of them tried to directly incorporate harddrives and DVD support and various other non-essentials.

This being said, I don't necessarily have a reason to bitch about other stuff, because it's focusing on what it was designed to do, so (ideally) all you're paying for is exactly what you need. I don't need a system with all kinds of features to be able to modify it -- I've modded my Saturn, my Genesis, and my Dreamcast -- but I modded them toward gaming.

Oh yeah, and the Xbox really ISN'T less than the cost of a computer if you're one of the people trying to get a hold of the thing before the holidays :grinno:

Akira13126
11-28-2005, 07:18 PM
The only main reason I would buy the 3rd gen of the Xbox would be for Halo3. As for them being used for other things.... My first cd player was the ps1 a few years after it came out and my 1st dvd player was the ps2 which i paid 30 dollors for about 2 months back. For a college student that doesnt have a job (its not the fact im not looking, i just cant find one) and had easy homework that can be done in a few hour or so, gamesystems are great. They are just way to over priced.

Damien
11-28-2005, 09:33 PM
^amen

I just got a gamecube, 3 controllers, memory card, and 2 games for $100. I'm happy and thats money spent for the next month. Need to give some plasma.

Muscletang
11-29-2005, 12:12 AM
Congratu-fucka-lations

You people obviously have narrow views.

This is sad, you people need to find something better to do than bitch about a video game. Some of the same people who bitch about the money on this would...

Spend money or wait in line for a football game/tickets. What a dumb sack of shit whoever has done that. Why waste the time and money when you can watch it on TV?

How about seeing somebody in concert. Dumbest idea I've ever heard of and only idiots do that! It's much cheaper to just buy the CD.

Oh, new heads, lets say GT-40 for a Mustang, can cost up to $1,000. Boy, whoever has spent money on that is a dumbass. They paid a grand for some metal to put on top of their car engine and all it does is give it a little horsepower?

Also, whoever spends over $50 on shoes here is dumber than a sack of rocks. Why spend so much on those new pair of Air Jordans when a pair from Wal-Mart will help your feet get from place to place?

Oh yeah, if you've spent money on a nice speaker/surround sound system, you're an idiot. Why spend that much money on that stuff when it's cheaper to just put on some headphones?

So when it comes to the price for getting something, before you bitch about it I'm sure you've pissed your money away on something you thought was well worth the money.

As for all the "special features" on the X-box you're moaning about. I bet people said the same thing about DVDs.
"Oh, it doesn't look THAT much better and who wants those speical features anyway?"
Now, people hate to watch movies on VHS and studios make millions each year re-releasing movies that have nothing but new special features. I'm also sure many of you have blown your money on at least one re-released movies with nothing but new features about how the director got an idea while taking a piss back stage.

As for the argument, oh it better wash my house, oh it better do this, better do that, blah blah blah shut your hole wang chung. An intake manifold for a 5.0, a good one, can cost as much or much more than a 360. Hmmm a hunk of metal or a computer, which do you think can do more there Mr. Wizard?

So before anybody goes and points anymore fingers, remember, four more of those fingers are pointing back at you.

P.S. I didn't mean it when I said you're dumb for doing any of the above. I'm just making a point that people spend their money on things they want to spend it on. To some, it may seem stupid, but to them it's money well worth spent.

Akira13126
11-29-2005, 12:37 AM
It really is sad how much people will spend on worthless things. But for some people money isn't a thing and they just like to bitch about things. I mean in the past five years I have only spent about $100 on all my gaming stuff. The problem is that people are impluse buyers. They will just buy the newest and best thing without shoping around or waiting for the price to drop. Hell I picked my PS2 up for $35. I borrow the games off my roommates cause I don't feel like spending $50 on a game that will be out of date and pointless in 2-3 years. Most everything I buy is used no matter what it is with a few exceptions. People just need to conserve there money.... :2cents:

Damien
11-29-2005, 08:37 AM
^darn right.flea markets and yard sales are my friends...along with my other friends who have good games etc on something to borrow.

Although, i dont point fingers...well,i do actually. i use my whole hand!!! :loser: you know...yeah. ill shut up now.

sickcallawayc12
11-29-2005, 02:25 PM
Spend money or wait in line for a football game/tickets. What a dumb sack of shit whoever has done that. Why waste the time and money when you can watch it on TV?
How about seeing somebody in concert. Dumbest idea I've ever heard of and only idiots do that! It's much cheaper to just buy the CD.
Oh yeah, if you've spent money on a nice speaker/surround sound system, you're an idiot. Why spend that much money on that stuff when it's cheaper to just put on some headphones?
You ever been to a broncos game? One of the best experiences in my life, next to losing my virginity. You ever been to a good concert? Another fun moment in life. Do you own a surround sound system? Definitely worth the $350 i paid and the two surround systems in my dad's house, each worth a good $3000 is more than enjoyable for my dad and any guests that enter his house.

imtheoneandonlyD
11-29-2005, 11:15 PM
I agree with muscletang, IMO concerts and sporting events are GENERALLY a huge waste of money. I can hardly justify the 15-20 bucks for a cd let alone 50+ to see someone in concert.

tenguzero
11-30-2005, 08:25 AM
I agree with muscletang, IMO concerts and sporting events are GENERALLY a huge waste of money. I can hardly justify the 15-20 bucks for a cd let alone 50+ to see someone in concert.


That's why I've only been to one real "concert" in my life (as in a music event held in a large-scale venue) and that was NIN several weeks ago. I wasn't a fan of paying $60 for a ticket, and that almost kept me from going (especially because the TD/Banknorth Garden is a sucky venue for heavier music.) Up to that point, the only shows I had been to were the $10-$15 club settings that other favorite bands of mine have played -- of course, while lacking the sophistication and technical capabilities of the big guys, the small venues make up for it in pure energy and involvement.

That being said, I still think many of these systems are a waste of money to some extent (and I've made valid reasons why I feel that way in my posts) but in the end, it is YOUR money, and you can blow it any way you want. My initial beef with this whole thread was to attack the whole mugging-people-for-a-GAME-system-thing. Somehow HOW people spend their money got rolled into it.

Damien
11-30-2005, 10:36 AM
What concerts are ya'll goin to?I've never spent more than $20 for an awesome concert:

Chevelle, Sevendust, Rob Zombie, Mudvayne, Shawdows Fall, Perfect Circle, Blink 182, Taproot, and the liost goes on...

Not all, but mostbands are so much better live.

tenguzero
11-30-2005, 11:13 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEO-GEO-SEGA-NINTENDO-TURBO-DUO-PS2-XBOX-ATARI-N64-3DO_W0QQitemZ8236990962QQcategoryZ62053QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem


OK. I've officially found what I believe to be the largest, most expansive videogame offering ever. Talk about excessive :eek2: Suddenly a grand for an Xbox doesn't seem so extreme.

Got an extra $45,000 laying around?

Damien
11-30-2005, 05:14 PM
That's every game system and games...although i've found a lot of them seperately and they added up for a lotless. the games though is what makes it.

wouldnt trust him though.

bh04
12-03-2005, 04:47 AM
I"ve been to two concerts. Probably the most memorable days of my life. They were worth the measly $40 a ticket that I got an awesome deal on.

Concert number one major bands Metallica and Godsmack. Really the only ones to care about. Nothing to special with the smaller bands.

The favorite of the two would have to be the Greed Day concert back in July when it came to a nearby city. It was quite fun. But I do look back and realize that I did miss out on some work on those two days because I had requested them off. SO instead of making about $120 I lost about $300. Not one of the smartest things i've done, but it was pretty worth it to have experienced that.

As for gaming systems I do like them all. I have pretty much everything. No i'm not spoiled, i'm just a hardcore gamer. I have almost everything starting form the Nintendo. The original NES. Also an Atari from 1977. It's actually my brothers. Yes it still works, no I do not play it. I in fact just hooked up my NES today and played a little duck hunt.

I have a PS2, and loved it for the 3 years I had it. Played Halo 2 with a friend and was sold on the Xbox. The PS2 has it's very awesome games along with the Xbox.They both have there ad and disadvantages. Granted I don't play my PS2 anymore because I just like my Xbox more and think it is a better gaming system than PS2. Allthough the PS2 does have its share of greatness.

I do not have an Xbox 360 as of yet. Once the 2nd generation of it comes out, I will be getting it. I've heard reviews and stuff on the PS3 and hear it will be a powerful system and heard it will be better than the 360. But that is all talk as of right now. We won't know for sure until the real deal comes out.

We have our Sony fans and we have our Microsoft fans. Sony fans will dis the Xbox and Microsfot fans with dis the Playstation. It's just how this world is and we seem to bitch and fight about which is better, when to be quite honest with ya, they are both really the same machine in a way. They both keep us busy for hours upon hours, they releive stress and pissed-offness, and they can turn a not so fn day, into a fun day. They both play DVD's and they both cost money.

IMO these two gaming systems are just a way of two different type of fans to have a reason to fight and put down the other fan. I'm done with my rant. Have a nice evening.

RickwithaTbird
12-03-2005, 10:47 AM
It's entertainment.

I completely disagree with Muscletang about people who go to concerts and sports events. At first I thought you were being sarcastic to prove the point that there are different forms of entertainment. You can't get all the memories of a concert from a CD. You don't get the memories of a basketball game by watching it on tv from your couch. There is real entertainment value from sitting at half court and seeing these athletes, or performers in person and being part of a group of thousands of people who appreciate it like you do. You may think I'm an idiot if I spend 200$ on half court tickets, but I think you're the idiot if you enjoy the game more on your couch.

If you haven't the time or money for the latest video games, then let it be. Maybe that person doesn't have the time/money/concern to do whatever it is you do for fun. We all enjoy different things, so let some rich guy spend his 13,000$ on the x box 360. If its worth it to him to have it 2 weeks sooner, then you should just piss off. It isn't your money.

But if some poor guy wants to rob him of his newly purchased video game system, I see that to be truly pathetic.

I think we just need to have an open mind about what other people enjoy. I may not want to spend all my money on these things, but I won't call the people who do, idiots.

imtheoneandonlyD
12-03-2005, 02:17 PM
PS2 vs. Xbox = Import vs. Domestic

Each can have all the facts they want and bash the other nonstop but the feud will never end. I personally think both the ps3 and 360 will both have some advantages over the other. Thats how it always is. You just get the one that suits your gaming style/needs the best.

Muscletang
12-03-2005, 04:11 PM
I completely disagree with Muscletang about people who go to concerts and sports events. At first I thought you were being sarcastic to prove the point that there are different forms of entertainment.

I was being sarcastic and I think some people thought I wasn't. There's nothing wrong with going to concerts or sports events. I've been to a few concerts and I've been to a few sporting events too. What I was trying to say is anybody can point out the negative for spending money on something and I think you drive it home with this next quote.

If you haven't the time or money for the latest video games, then let it be. Maybe that person doesn't have the time/money/concern to do whatever it is you do for fun. We all enjoy different things, so let some rich guy spend his 13,000$ on the x box 360. If its worth it to him to have it 2 weeks sooner, then you should just piss off. It isn't your money.

I agree with this 100%. What I was trying to say in my last post, to each his own.

Damien
12-03-2005, 10:03 PM
Yeah, but I like domestics and imports. Well, not domestics, classics, I guess they're called. Xbox is a good system, but it's bigger and has a lot less of decent game titles. Now...who knows, although the line up so far sucks. Ive seen it up till march.

King Of Crunk
12-04-2005, 11:08 AM
what's the deal with people nowdays!?! everyone knows that smoking weed and watching infomercials with your buddies is the best entertainment you can have for the money....







:smokin: :icon16:

sickcallawayc12
12-08-2005, 06:05 PM
what's the deal with people nowdays!?! everyone knows that smoking weed and watching infomercials with your buddies is the best entertainment you can have for the money....







:smokin: :icon16:
smokin' and playin' video games is.

2strokebloke
12-08-2005, 07:48 PM
Systems 2strokebloke owns:Atari 2600, Intellivision, NES, Sega Genisis, Play Station.
Systems 2strokebloke will never own: X-Box, X-Box 360, Sega CD. :D
I can't believe that they're already coming out with the next wave of systems - what are they trying to do? Destroy the industry like they did in '84?

I've barely broken the systems I do have, why would I buy new ones?

TRUBO_89
12-08-2005, 08:28 PM
heres a way to use your new game system...

a friend of mine told me this. a bunch of guys reserved a 360 using loose change they got off other people.
after they picked up the 360 at best buy they went outside beside the long line of people waiting for a chance to get one too. they guys put the xbox on the ground, brought out baseball bats and smashed the brand new system into pieces in front of the whole crowd. the guys walked off laughing as the rest of the crowd stared in shock

kinda a waste of money, but the look on people's faces must've been priceless :eek:

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