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Jet Fuel ?


SMOKINGIROC
09-16-2005, 03:26 PM
My buddy is in the navy and fuels jet planes, well my question is he could get me some jet fuel now would that be safe to put in my car or will it blow it up? i dont know what octane it has.

CamarosRsweet94
09-16-2005, 03:42 PM
Does you car not run well on regular gasoline?

SMOKINGIROC
09-16-2005, 03:48 PM
It runs good, but i'm talking about taking her to the track with jet fuel.

balls_to_the_wall
09-16-2005, 04:06 PM
dosen't all jet fuel have is a very high octane rating?? No powerbenifit, along with absolutley 0% water?

Please correct me if i'm wrong (which is almost a given...)

-Ryan

Savage Messiah
09-16-2005, 04:49 PM
just post up after with pics of the aftermath on that 350 HO... and I take no responsibility...

99markss
09-16-2005, 05:07 PM
This is right up my alley, I am in the Air Force and my job just happens to be a Fuels Specialist aka POL. Jet fuel is a kerosene based fuel, ala diesel, only much cleaner. There are various grades of jet fuel, the USAF flies on JP8, which has a flashpoint of over 100 degrees. The commercial airliners use Jet A, only difference being absence of certain additives the military requires for safer handling and performance such as Fuel System Icing Inhibitor (FSII), which prevents the entrained water, which is in all fuel, from freezing at higher altitudes, kind of antifreeze for fuel. So as to using it in your car, I would highly discourage it. Jet fuel would most likely destroy your spark plugs if not more. You would be better off using AVGAS, but only in small amounts.
Jet fuel is for jet engines.

ct91rs
09-16-2005, 05:08 PM
From what I understand, most jet fuels have a 15-20 octane-equivalent rating. (i.e. they ignite very easily and would quickly blow your engine.)

Rally Sport
09-16-2005, 05:10 PM
I wouldnt use jet fuel even without knowing all the stuff this guy just told us.. Mainly because everyone knows that jet fuel burns a long time.

y2icon
09-16-2005, 05:41 PM
could be a good thing on gas mileage but proly would end up destroying the car, but hey if cars can run on vegetables why not jet fuel

Morley
09-16-2005, 10:57 PM
From what I understand, most jet fuels have a 15-20 octane-equivalent rating. (i.e. they ignite very easily and would quickly blow your engine.)
As stated above...jet fuel is kerosene, which is very hard to ignite. It won't blow up an engine from all of the "power"...it will foul the plugs horribly though.

supervisor1886
09-17-2005, 01:29 AM
dont wold war2 planes used kerosine based fuels ? +nitrous. I have seen those 16 cylinder engines (1200hp) from Focker wolf planes.

demon9766
09-17-2005, 02:29 AM
Don't put jet fuel in your car dude! Better to use AV gas I use it but I have forged pistons and zero gap rings.IF you do use AV gas be sure to mix it with super unleaded because the AV gas is so dry it will hurt your fuel system and melt your pistons if you don't.

CamarosRsweet94
09-17-2005, 09:23 AM
Well, I guess IMO if the car runs fine on high octane gas why not just stick to running that? Unless the car doesn't run well on gas anything else is kind of a waste I think...

Scale-Master
09-17-2005, 11:21 AM
AV Gas will not destroy your fuel system. But who would waste the money to run pure AV Gas in a stock street car anyways. Check the dollar per gallon.
I run a few gallons in a full tank of pump preimium to bring the octane rating up to between 102 and 104. Anything more is a waste and fouls the plugs. Unless it was free, I wouldn't put it in a stock motor. I only use it in my Z with a built 385, yes I said 385... - Mark
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/MVC-336F.jpg

CamaroRS92
09-17-2005, 07:52 PM
The old farm machinery and trucks used to run on Kerosene years ago because it was cheaper back then. They had a dual fuel tank Gasoline on one side and Kero on the other. They would start the engine on Gasoline and let it warm up then switch over to Kero. Then just before shutting the engine off they would switch back to gasoline for a short time to burn the remaining kero out of the carb.

You could prob. run it without damaging the engine (other than possibly fouling plugs) as long as the engine is good and hot before trying to run it & you dont turn the engine off and let it cool down with a tank full of Kero Base Fuel, or you might not get it started again.
Spark ignition is not hot enough to ignite it alone (unless you preheat the Kero. to near the flash point) and very doubtful you have the compression to ignite it like a diesel engine does.

Power gain? - very doubtful
Economical? - Not

I see no real advantage with it

Rally Sport
09-17-2005, 09:12 PM
Thats a badass engine there, Scale-Master

Muscletang
09-17-2005, 09:45 PM
I actually had a thread asking this: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=364622

I've heard that a 10:1 mix of jet fuel/diesel in the gas will help burn the carbon out but many people consider this an old wives tale. They think it's more harm than good and you have to get it just right.

If you're asking or saying to just put nothing but pure jet fuel or diesel in your car you're asking for trouble. The thing about these fuels is they burn hotter and longer. If you've put gas and diesel on a camp fire you can see this.

The diesel will run your car but it'll burn longer that what the engine is use to and hotter. You'll probably burn out some valves, your plugs, probably fry the pistons up and lose compression.

92zcamaroperson
09-18-2005, 07:39 AM
Ive heard about running a very small mixture of acetone can help your engine out a little and give better gas mileage and performance. I read about it in the chevy 1500 truck forums. Never did try it myself. But all that i can think that it does is clean out carbon build-up.

Savage Messiah
09-18-2005, 07:01 PM
ive heard that too

88camaroproject
09-18-2005, 07:15 PM
someone should have call myth busters and tell them to test it out. all of them, lke the jet fuel, acetone, and diesel things. i would watch it.

Rally Sport
09-18-2005, 08:59 PM
Yeah Myth-busters would definately check out whats going on, and if you decide to just do it yourself and have your engine explode on you, then do what I do.. Blame Muscletang!

Muscletang
09-18-2005, 09:54 PM
if you decide to just do it yourself and have your engine explode on you, then do what I do.. Blame Muscletang!

Here we go again...

http://weasel.faricy.net/funny/room_funny.jpg

ct91rs
09-18-2005, 09:59 PM
Muscletang, pretty good, haven't seen that one

Rally Sport
09-18-2005, 10:17 PM
Got to blame someone, and sadly Muscletang was chosen.

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