Our Community is over 1 Million Strong. Join Us.

Grand Future Air Dried Beef Dog Food
Air Dried Dog Food | Real Beef

Grain-Free, Zero Fillers


02 Impala Acceleration Degrading


luvmy02impala
09-07-2005, 10:23 AM
Hello, this is my 1st time post....

I really enjoy driving my 02 Impala, in the last year I had a $900 intake manifold replaced, new rotors and pads, with new tires. I have also replaced the fuel filter and serpentine belt, as well.

The acceleration is degrading. When I push the gas pedal, I really have to mash it to get the car to accelerate. The gas mileage is getting worse, gone from 300/400 a tank to 200/300 a tank. It seems not as responsive as wehn I bought it used a year ago-used (no warranties on it) and the car has 83k miles on it.

There are no idiot lights on the dash board that light up. I also have a 2003 Impala that accelerates just fine.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

Thanks, Tom

simonswu
09-07-2005, 11:07 AM
My '01 base has got similar problems, loss of acceleration power, and worse gas mileage. When accelerating, a kind of air sucking noise can be heard. Many say it must be from catalytic converter. But my dealer insists it's normal, and they say the cat converter is fine based on their test, and some of new impala's even make the same noise....Anyway they could not find anything wrong.

I'm going to take the car to another chev dealer, hopefully a better one.

bigrod118
09-07-2005, 02:45 PM
well you say it has 83K on it. and in the manual it says to check/replace spark plugs and wires at 100K I personally dont think that plugs and wires are going to last that long, and since your almost getting there, that might be something to look at.

luvmy02impala
09-07-2005, 06:27 PM
Thanks, I called one dealer and they said it could be the cat, but wasn't sure unless they had the car to inspect. He said the cat probably is ready to go with that mileage, since it is a fairly new car with high mileage.

I know it doesn't drive right, I have an 03 Impala (same model) and it accelerates pretty dam quick...

-Tom

luvmy02impala
09-07-2005, 06:34 PM
I'm going to take the car to another chev dealer, hopefully a better one.

Let me know what the dealer says, it would interesting to see if the same issue. I just hear any sucking noise. With the window open when I hit the gas pedal, you have hear the motor respond (almost kind f muffled, like it is restricted/muffled), the car just doesn't want to accelerate.

The car had accelerated fine up to about 2/3 weeks ago. The car sat for a moth while I was out of the country, I wonder if that had something to do with it.

-Tom

Impala05Man
09-07-2005, 09:11 PM
What engine does the 2002 Impala have in it. I have a 2005 Impala LS with the 3.8 liter and I don't hear any noises like that with mine. If its the 3.4 liter you have GM has had numerous problems with that engine.

bermis519
09-08-2005, 01:46 PM
Well here is my edumacated guess.

I am experienceing the same problems with the lack of acceleration. When i give it gas, i can hear a hissing sound like the exhaust is backed up. The reason your car is getting crappy gas milage is because you have to push the pedal down more to maintain speed, when you press the pedal down more you are feeding more gas to the motor. Your problem is the converter. I have replaced spark plugs, wires, new fuel filter, had the fuel rail and the injectors clean and everything passed just fine. I'm also experiencing a rough idle too. I'm 99.9 percent sure it's the converter because it's the only thing that would hiss underneath the car from back pressure. If it was anything else in the exhaust as far as a hole it would simply be loud. Your best bet is to break down and get a new converter. I have decided to go with an aftermarket converter with a simulator so the check engine light doesn't come on. Why spend 500-600 bucks on the same converter you know is going to fail, or put a cheaper high performance converter on it with a simulator. I tried to trade mine in at the dealership when they had the employee discount thing going on and they would only give me 2500 bucks for a 2000 base impala, cd player, a/c and all that. The car is in excellent condition, well to them because i never told them what hell i have been thorough and i believe they should get their problem right back and I don't feel one bit of remorse doing so. But to give me 2500 bucks for a car i paid almost 15000 dollars for four years ago really pisses me off!

But i see am just rambling on again. Just thought i would give you guys my opinion and educated guess.

Mike

MCO_Death
09-08-2005, 08:19 PM
Hello, this is my 1st time post....

I really enjoy driving my 02 Impala, in the last year I had a $900 intake manifold replaced, new rotors and pads, with new tires. I have also replaced the fuel filter and serpentine belt, as well.

The acceleration is degrading. When I push the gas pedal, I really have to mash it to get the car to accelerate. The gas mileage is getting worse, gone from 300/400 a tank to 200/300 a tank. It seems not as responsive as wehn I bought it used a year ago-used (no warranties on it) and the car has 83k miles on it.

There are no idiot lights on the dash board that light up. I also have a 2003 Impala that accelerates just fine.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

Thanks, Tom

My 2003 is having this exact problem also, have yet to get it into the shop. I'm assuming the Cat's or something with the transmission. It won't accelerate for piss getting on the highway or up to 55 for that matter and the gas milage went to crap.

luvmy02impala
09-08-2005, 08:41 PM
put a cheaper high performance converter on it with a simulator.

I have the 3.4L engine. Where can I get this cat & simulator. I haven't heard of this previously. Will the higher perf cat last longer?

I have 83k on the car. When it drove well, it drove really nice.

-Tom

victimizati0n
09-10-2005, 08:54 AM
I have the 3.4L engine. Where can I get this cat & simulator. I haven't heard of this previously. Will the higher perf cat last longer?

I have 83k on the car. When it drove well, it drove really nice.

-Tom

Just go out and get a cat (like from napa, or advance auto parts) that is a direct fit for your car.

It will mostlikely be a better one, and it will probably last the rest of the lifetime of your car.

Im assuming he told you to get a simulator, because the cars computer will think something is wrong, and your check engine light will come on.

maxwedge
09-10-2005, 07:43 PM
Why replace the cat, have it scannned and look for maf readings, o2 readings, and fuel trims these things will tell what is going on, if all checks good, have the cat checked for excess back pressure. Very unusual to replace cats at these mileages. without something causing them to fail.

MCO_Death
09-10-2005, 10:19 PM
Why replace the cat, have it scannned and look for maf readings, o2 readings, and fuel trims these things will tell what is going on, if all checks good, have the cat checked for excess back pressure. Very unusual to replace cats at these mileages. without something causing them to fail.

Very unusual is the definition to a lot of problems that have been posted on these boards :D

Had a 91 Lumina litrally blow off the cat converter at 48k miles from buildup in the cat and large enough backpressure. That was a fun sound...

supervisor1886
09-11-2005, 12:18 AM
Plugged or cracked cat
1 Rotten egg smell (running lean)
2 Too hot under there
3 No power
4 wont rev higher that 3000 3500 RPM
5 Sounds like its plugged (no hissing)
6 Oil becomes very dirty too soon
7 bad gas mlg

I would run the car without the cat if there s only one O2 sensor.


Solutions : aftermarket hi flow cat with the A.I.R. setup $100 + high perfomance muffler. For more perfomance solutions (which are cheaper than using OEM stuff) refer to CAMARO forums.


Also what you missed here is
1 Ignition system and the coils (wires)!
2 Bad o2 sensors or Taiwan one
3 Vacuum leak anywhere
4 Bad fuel pressure regulator or pump (filter)
5 Any other sensor causing to run lean or very rich (sometimes there wont be codes set)
6 Hydrolic lifters need adjustment

maxwedge
09-11-2005, 02:58 PM
Supervisor , no adjustments on the hydraulics. MCO, cats fail mainly due to engine driveability issues such as a long standing misfires or as Supervisor said any condition that causes to rich or lean a mixture that over time is not corrected. I have had 5 GM fwd cars that have all gone 200k, 3.1, 2.8 and 3.8 engines.no cat failures. Of course issues posted in this forum are dealing with problem cars that tend to generate a record of cat failures.

luvmy02impala
09-12-2005, 04:25 PM
Very unusual is the definition to a lot of problems that have been posted on these boards :D

Had a 91 Lumina litrally blow off the cat converter at 48k miles from buildup in the cat and large enough backpressure. That was a fun sound...

My previous car was a 88 Olds Delta 88, when it had 160k the cat let go, it blew pieces of internal cat goodness out the back. Had to replace the muffler (since Meineke said they were unsure how much debris was collected there - I am sure this was a $$$ gimmick).

There was no degraded acceleration, no bad gas mileage, it just went and car shut off, I thought I blew the engine. That car now has 190k on the 3800 and my mother in law bought it with a bad tranny. That car had balls, it was as good as it was when I bought it with 80k miles on it.

-Tom

MCO_Death
09-14-2005, 02:46 PM
Just had my 03 serviced finally for my acceleration problem. Bat cat's. @ 46k miles. Also doing a full tranny service as it was needed. All service being covered under warrenty at no charge to me. Horray.

To add, I had poor acceleration, horrible gas milage as main symptoms.

luvmy02impala
10-10-2005, 12:53 PM
****solved****

*new Catalytic Converter Solved Troubles*

Thanks For All The Help Everyone!

-tom & His 2002 Impala

1995JimmyLT
10-10-2005, 07:01 PM
I read about this problem a few times from various onwers and just thought you might like to know, in case you don't know already, although I haven't experienced such a problem ith my 2001 Impala, GM sent me a letter stating that 2001-2002 Impala, Monte Carlo, Grand Prix or Regal owners may have a condition where there is a lack of power/acceleration due to the front endcone insulation from the Cat breaking away and blocking the first catalyst brick, thus preventing exhaust gas free flow.

They state it is not a recall, however, GM is offering additional coverage on the cat if you are experiencing the loss of power issue and are giving 10 year or 190,000 km replacement coverage at no charge! Even if you got it repaired already (before September 15, 2005), you can receive a reimbursement.

I believe you need the letter from them for the deal, but I think that is just awesome! Although, once again, I have not experienced this problem. My Impala just flies beautifully, but it's nice to know that I am covered for a little while and may be something you might like to look into.

rtx042
10-17-2005, 11:51 PM
No letter required ...just let them know the symptoms and they will check it out and replace the cat if its plugging up.



\
\I read about this problem a few times from various onwers and just thought you might like to know, in case you don't know already, although I haven't experienced such a problem ith my 2001 Impala, GM sent me a letter stating that 2001-2002 Impala, Monte Carlo, Grand Prix or Regal owners may have a condition where there is a lack of power/acceleration due to the front endcone insulation from the Cat breaking away and blocking the first catalyst brick, thus preventing exhaust gas free flow.

They state it is not a recall, however, GM is offering additional coverage on the cat if you are experiencing the loss of power issue and are giving 10 year or 190,000 km replacement coverage at no charge! Even if you got it repaired already (before September 15, 2005), you can receive a reimbursement.

I believe you need the letter from them for the deal, but I think that is just awesome! Although, once again, I have not experienced this problem. My Impala just flies beautifully, but it's nice to know that I am covered for a little while and may be something you might like to look into.

duanes67
10-18-2006, 03:30 PM
My 03 impala had the same hiss and poor acceleration. After analyzing, I finally unplugged the EGR valve. The performance returned. I tried replacing the EGR, but the symptoms returned. So, for now I just run it unplugged.

I'd still like to get to the bottom of the problem, so I guess I'll check the cat converter next. Any other ideas?
Also - there is no 1-2 or 2-3 upshift on wide open throttle (WOT). Have to let up for it to shift.

******UPDATE - Cat replaced and FIXED IT! ******

I took it to a local dealer and the cat was covered by an 8yr/80000mi warrantee. Totally free... Why couldn't I have found this forum sooner?! I already tested/cleaned the EGR, MAF, IAC, and EVAP solenoids; and replaced the PCS, TCC and both shift solenoids. Three OBD II scans missed this one - no DTCs ever showed up. Live and Learn, and search the Automotice Forums!! Thanks guys!

maxwedge
10-18-2006, 05:39 PM
Welcome to AF, sounds like a possible cat issue, the unit can be checked with a back pressure gage fitted into a 02 sensor port. It is covered for 8/80k.

Lexander
10-19-2006, 05:57 AM
I drive a 02’ LS spots package Impala. I bought the car used in 03’ from a Chevy dealer. The car belonged to a housewife of one of the salesmen there. The car only had 9,000 plus miles on it. :grinyes: Three years later the mileage is at 45,735 miles.

The 1st problem I had with it was the blinkers. They would have a mind of their own and blink on occasion:screwy: . Found out it’s the relay switch in the dash next to the hazard light button. I remove the dash along with the bad switch then had it replaced and now it works fine.

The 2nd problem I have experienced is shaking of the steering wheel when braking at speeds of 47 – 55mpr. It started shaking after rotating a set of new tires. I went back home and checked the tires again. Then later still not knowing what the problem was I changed the front brakes because it was time. When I changed the brakes I found out that my factory rotors were warped. Now I need to buy a set of rotors!
And I’m not going cheap:2cents: ! No factory parts 4 me Thank You!!!
(FYI you may have only one rotor that is warped but even so you should change both)

Now my 3rd and so far latest problem with it is the catalytic converter. It went out on me with no signs:nono: . It happened quick, from one second zooming up a freeway onramp to the next second totally loosing powe r in acceleration. Every time I would rev the engine a rattling sound would come out from under the car in between the 2 front tires, were the cat converter is located. I found a great exhaust shop that gave me a great deal. :thumbsup:
Make sure the cat converter that’s installed is equipped with OBDII electronics.
I also changed the spark plugs, air filter, fuel filter, oil and oil filter.
(FYI if you want to get ripped off, :loser: go 2 a dealer! If you want it done right, do your research!!!)

Well that’s my story on my Impala experience. I always count my blessings but this car is just too:twak: much so far. I love it but I hate it! I just wish they were made better!

My wife and I have made up our minds and we are going to trade the car in for another jeep. :cheers:

Gems
10-22-2006, 07:31 AM
Why replace the cat, have it scannned and look for maf readings, o2 readings, and fuel trims these things will tell what is going on, if all checks good, have the cat checked for excess back pressure. Very unusual to replace cats at these mileages. without something causing them to fail.

These cars have known defective CATS... I got a letter from GM (Ive posted a copy of this letter in another thread here) saying because of CAT problems GM has extended the CAT warranty to 10 years or 120,000 miles... I had mine changed by the dealer under this coverage and the car runs like new again...

richtazz
10-22-2006, 07:38 AM
Lexander. I agree that going to the dealer for non-warranty service can be expensive (especially brakes and suspension), but paying another shop, regardless of what kind of great deal they give you, for a part that is covered by an extended GM warranty is throwing money away. If your car was still within the warranty coverage, they'd of changed it for free. You can possibly be reimbursed from GM if you have your paperwork, receipts, etc...

micali
10-24-2006, 05:07 PM
Its sounds like the CAT. I had similar probs and I had a HI PO CAT put on and it ran better. Sounder better too. It does need a simulator or the check engine light stays on. Chevy will pay you back for any repairs that is done to the CAT. They sent me a letter out of the blue and told me to fax the receipts to them and they would reimurse me and they did.

Add your comment to this topic!


Quality Real Meat Nutrition for Dogs: Best Air Dried Dog Food | Real Beef Dog Food | Best Beef Dog Food