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vxturbo
09-03-2005, 01:47 AM
So heres the deal, im going to build an AWD turbo SOHC VTEC CRX. I'm gonna use the six speed manual out of the wagon and its drivetrain. I plan to do a lot of cutting and some welding...lol. Ive researched this quite a bit and im pretty sure i can do it without blowing trannys every time i drive it. I would like some input, just incase ive overlooked anything severe.

superbluecivicsi
09-03-2005, 04:45 AM
if you researched it, then, the conclusion should tell you it is a waste of time and money ;) want a better research on the awd civic/crx/integra. try HT. you get to look at prices, time, and the worthlessness of it. you even get to see actual results.

mmcleo11
09-03-2005, 07:17 AM
if you researched it, then, the conclusion should tell you it is a waste of time and money ;) want a better research on the awd civic/crx/integra. try HT. you get to look at prices, time, and the worthlessness of it. you even get to see actual results.

I happen to agree, being the first to do it does not mean much if your second over the finish line...

A properly set up turbo FWD would be much more entertaining and worthwhile investment for your $$. I urge you to be serious and realistic...

Hybrid1990crx
09-03-2005, 11:24 AM
well he wouldnt be the first to do it.

And I dont think the wagovans have 6 speed trannys either.

I think it would be really cool, but the differentials of the wagovan can barely hold double the HP of the stock motor if you are lucky. So unless you are planning to make this a 150hp rally car I wouldnt really do it.

arodg25
09-03-2005, 12:32 PM
if you want it to handle the power you might be better off using crv parts. hell just put a b16 head in a crv.

vxturbo
09-03-2005, 12:43 PM
The CRV AWD is different its like 70/30 split or something like that, i havent reaserched the CRV very much. The D series option is a whole lot cheaper, and im not talking about using the wagovan parts. The wagovan is a FWD 5 speed. The wagon is 4wd with a 6 speed manual look on autotrader. and double the horse power would be near 200hp. not 150. The parts are cheap enough that IMO it would be fun to see how much they could take. There is also aftermarket solutions to weak drivetrain components. It will probably end up costing some $$ but how many people have AWD CRX's? :)

Hybrid1990crx
09-03-2005, 01:06 PM
double the horsepower is going to break shit that why I said 150.

vxturbo
09-03-2005, 01:11 PM
ah, I dont know i just think it would be a fun project. Not my daily driver. I thnk that everyone doesnt give the d series enough credit. Theres a drag guy out there making 800hp on d series engines. I realize their built but that says somthing to me atleast.

Hybrid1990crx
09-03-2005, 01:17 PM
who wasnt giving D's credit? I know that can make power. all I was saying that the drivetrain isnt going to handle the power. and I am still yet to find a 6 speed wagon...

crxlvr
09-03-2005, 05:38 PM
forget all this, the transfer case alone would blow apart under these conditions, leaving you with no wheel drive.

vxturbo
09-04-2005, 12:27 AM
go to autotrader.com and do compare. Not the wagovan. The 88-91 civic wagon 4wd has a 6 speed transmission. I really think that this tranny can take more abuse than everyone thinks. Everything i have found is just speculation. No one has any hard facts that this will blow up. Im not saying itll hold 400hp probably not even 350 but you might be surprised. I dont know i guess ill find out. :) And the no credit to D series was just a general statment not aimed at you guys.

rossi38special
09-04-2005, 01:09 AM
ah, I dont know i just think it would be a fun project. Not my daily driver. I thnk that everyone doesnt give the d series enough credit. Theres a drag guy out there making 800hp on d series engines. I realize their built but that says somthing to me atleast.

800 hp on a d series engine???? i call bs anyone else with me? post soem links to where your getting your 800 hp info from at least!

GTA
09-04-2005, 02:48 AM
the 6 speed tranny in the 4wd wagovans is not made for any type of speed. its a 5 speed with a granny gear as 1st. so they call it a 6 speed.

vxturbo
09-04-2005, 01:01 PM
I cant find it now but it was in an article in superstreet. I moved so i dont have my back issues of superstreet anymore. I remeber he was a pro drag racer using d series to make high hp numbers. The WAGOVAN doesnt have a 6 speed. The civic WAGON has a 6 speed. Can anyone produce any evidence that this tranny will not survive. Everything ive seen is just theory.

superbluecivicsi
09-04-2005, 02:23 PM
search honda-tech.com

GTA
09-05-2005, 02:29 AM
i just told you. it is considered a 6 speed tranny, but 1st gear is a low gear for the 4wd, just used like shifting into low on a automatic...

crxlvr
09-05-2005, 08:50 AM
man, your not the first person to try this, it doesnt handle power that well once you get over 150hp or so. the only awd crx used the crv drivetrain, and a b18c5, the drivetrain was highly modified though.

vxturbo
09-06-2005, 12:26 AM
Opps sorry read your post wrong. I stand corrected. I realize im not the only one to try this, but i haven seen a completed one(with D series) or anything to support the transfer case exploding... to be honest i just want to do it to do it. I can get stronger parts as i break them...lol this isnt going to be my daily driver, just a project. Im not looking to make any insane hp numbers, just thinking id do some suspension work and make a quick fun to drive car. I just wanted input on if i overlooked anything.

crxlvr
09-06-2005, 12:50 AM
well im all for it then, just try it if its not gonna run you too much money, theres nothing stopping you except alot of wasted time and money, if you ask me.

turtlecrxsi
09-06-2005, 08:09 AM
the 6 speed tranny in the 4wd wagovans is not made for any type of speed. its a 5 speed with a granny gear as 1st. so they call it a 6 speed.

This is true. And it is for the wagon. There are 6 gears and one is a low "granny" gear like in a truck.

Why is everybody being a dick about this? If the guy wants to buld a project car that's cool. I wouldn't try to put any power to that awd system (RT4WD=real time 4 wheel drive) because even a redneck honda mechanic told me they aren't worth shit "off road"...

vxturbo
09-06-2005, 10:48 AM
i was planning on stayong on the street. lol. But this project has just been canceled. The finance center that pays me.(I work for the governemnt) was in New Orleans and is no longer there so im not going to be getting paid, or if i do get paid it will be very short checks. thanks for the input, but this is on hiatus. lol. but in the mean time i have a friend who has a 91 integra that someone tried to steal but the engine and stuff is good, maybe ill try to get that for a donor to a cheap CRX. who knows. Anyone selling a cheap CRX in washington?

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