360 CS transkit questions

Before I go and spend $35 on the CS transkit, what does it involve doing to the car... I don't want to get in over my head. Do you have to remove things from the car, and not just in terms of replacing the seats. Does one have to cut up the model as it stands? And if so, how would one do this cleanly, and how would one put it all back together?

you have to remove the front bumper

Take a look here (http://models.magietec.com/wiki/index.php?title=Opening_hoods%2C_doors_etc) to know how to remove parts.

And if you do that, the new bumper should just glue in place?

Yes.

And if you do that, the new bumper should just glue in place?

it should be painless yes. Maybe the resin will be a bit bent, but it's easy fix.

Go for it, it's not that hard. But don't try it if it's your first kit.

It's not my first kit... I've done a few Tamiya kits before... it'll be my first transkit, however.

I did this transkit. Also look at 360spider´s thread of the conversion. The replacement of the part is indeed painless, when you work very patient. Took me some time to smoothen the bumper onto the chassis with some putty. Nevertheless, the results of a 360-conversion to the CS are great and worth the effort of the body work. You´ll need the the SAS wheels of course...
And one more thing: The decals from MSM are a little tricky. Don´t use decal solvents on it (Microscale or Gunze). My first set just vanished using this stuff!

Good luck with the conversion!

It's not my first kit... I've done a few Tamiya kits before... it'll be my first transkit, however.


Then go for it. It's not a very hard transkit to work with.
You will have fun with it.

In my opinion it is incorrect, and not worth the price. Quality is so-so.

In my opinion it is incorrect, and not worth the price. Quality is so-so.

Hi 360spider,

What is it that you find to be incorrect about it?

Regards,

Ron
Racing Miniatures
www.racingminiatures.com

Hi 360spider,

What is it that you find to be incorrect about it?

Regards,

Ron
Racing Miniatures
www.racingminiatures.com

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=402249

Hi 360 spider,

I'm not sure why your engine cover did not fit. I haven't heard anyone else mention that. Perhaps you had one that shrunk for some reason. As for your comments on the wheels and seats, the MSM kit Mk II has corrected these. The seats are now correct for the Stradale and the wheels are bigger so all in all it is a much improved transkit.

Regards,

Ron
Racing Miniatures
www.racingminiatures.com

Well, that still leaves us with incorrect door panels, side skirts, rear diffuser, etc. Like I said, IMO - its not worth the price even with corrected wheels and seats.

Well, that still leaves us with incorrect door panels, side skirts, rear diffuser, etc. Like I said, IMO - its not worth the price even with corrected wheels and seats.

Hi Alex, I really appreciate your work on the 360CS, especially on the rear gill which looks so real. Regarding the side skirts, they've been corrected in the 2nd version but I didn't mention that. There are 2 different rear diffuser on the real 360CS and the transkit represents the show car's diffuser. http://www.msmcreation.com/images/news_2003_043_141.jpg I won't say they're 100% correct. Please let me know what's wrong and I'm listening and welcome comments :) . The door panels are incorrect...true!...I've tried to improve them but the out come was not good, they're too thin and the manufacturer said they can't cast in resin :disappoin . The alternative is photo-etch but the cost will go up and the price will not stay at US$36. Anyway, thanks for your comments and if you feel you've been robbed US$36 X2, please contact me, I have a present for you. :biggrin:
Cheers

I have just received the this transkit yesterday, and comparing each item to the original, most seems fine. The engine cover fits perfectly, and the casting quality also looks fine. My only complaint is that one of the wheels hasn`t been cast that well but hopefully as it is not on the face it will be OK, and no-one seems to do a photo etched mesh rear panel. But thanks MSM Creations, I`m happy.

I can understand 360Spider as his work is outstanding, and accuracy is very important to him and of course his skills allow him to pull it off every time. My skills though, well lets say they still need tweeking :lol:

I am also buying the SAS transkit along with wheels and decals. When they arrive, hopefully later this month, I will have a good comparison.

When we talk about accuracy of the transkit you´ll have to have really decent and detailed reference pictures for finding out what was wrong with the seats and the door panels as well as the side skirts. Nevertheless and I´m saying this again, the transkit is a nice way to make the standard 360 into the 360 CS. And to be quite honest, most people won´t see the differences between the real deal and the transkit. Of course, when you look for 100% accuracy, you might want to think about getting the MSM transkit or rather scratch build the door panels and all the other things you´re not 100% happy with.
I was satisfied with my MSM transkit (except for the wheels and decals) but hey, I´ll never compare my work to 360spider, so I shouldn´t be counted as reference, when it comes to accuray on transkits...

Hi Alex, I really appreciate your work on the 360CS, especially on the rear gill which looks so real. Regarding the side skirts, they've been corrected in the 2nd version but I didn't mention that. There are 2 different rear diffuser on the real 360CS and the transkit represents the show car's diffuser. http://www.msmcreation.com/images/news_2003_043_141.jpg I won't say they're 100% correct. Please let me know what's wrong and I'm listening and welcome comments :) . The door panels are incorrect...true!...I've tried to improve them but the out come was not good, they're too thin and the manufacturer said they can't cast in resin :disappoin . The alternative is photo-etch but the cost will go up and the price will not stay at US$36. Anyway, thanks for your comments and if you feel you've been robbed US$36 X2, please contact me, I have a present for you. :biggrin:
Cheers

I didn't want to sound like I don't appreciate the work you do - your transkit was the one of the first complete transkits on the market, and allowed many modelers to build CS. I just wanted to share my point of view, and since I'm building my models to be as true to the original as possible, I thought I will let everybody know that transkit is lacking in many areas.

Regarding rear diffusers - they should be a lot thinner, rear areas of the diffusers merge with the chassis floor, and on the outside, inner sides are bolted to the chassis right before the gearbox vent (they cut at an angle there too).

Not sure what you might do with the door panels - I'm not familiar wit h casting techniques, so it might be difficult to cast them when they are so thin. But it shouldn't be to much of a deal to correct the shape of the panels themselves and at least cut bigger, and correct shape opening. The doors you include look like they would be more proper for a 360 Challenge car.

In any case, I don't feel robbed, I just would rather pay a higher price for a transkit that I don't have to modify that much. If I offended you in some way, please don't be, that was not my intention.

I just looked on your website over the improved transkit, and seats and wheels do look a LOT better, and hopefully engine cover was only bad in my transkit.