Gsr Vs Z24

Ok so i guess you guys wanna compare... I guess ppl can come at it from different angles. heres mine..... Integra GSR over 20,000 my friend pays 460 a month for his. And what do u get for it? a mid 15 sec car lol oh wow big shit. a Ford mustang GT for around that price can kill the crap out of a GSR with an auto and a hick driver. Big crap so the integras have 4 wheels disk brakes, and independent suspention there not fast enough to do anything with it. And who cares about Turns unless your into autocross or track racing which i garantee 90% of GSR owner are not. So that whole suspention argument is worthless. The only thing i admire the GSR for is the 4 wheels dick brakes and its stopping characteristics in which the Z24 lacks. And as for driving the GSR is a much harder car to drive fast. I've driven them before and you have to wind the piss out of them to get the slightest reaction. yea theres nothing like waiting for v tec to get some power lol. The Z24 has a much better power band and can be driven much easier. Lets see back to the whole curves and turns.. what will get you out of a tight turn faster? TORQUE!!!! So the 2.4 is superior at running around a track. check out mantapart.com they race Z24's and sunfires on tracks. In order to drive fast around tight turns and come out of the whole faster you need some low end torque. the 2.4 power band climbs and doesn't drop off until well after 6000. So if moded up a 2.4 can have shift points of 8000 and the power band will just keep climbing. lets face it A gsr and a z24 are not off the lot race cars,but both have there strong points. I mean other than the suspentionand 4 wheel disk brakes what does a GSR have on a Z24? Alot of ppl pull numbers out there ass but here it is: GSR 0-60 in 7.5 1/4 in 15.8, Z24 0-60 in 7.7 1/4 in 15.9. Basically the same strait line performance. And my Z only cost me 16,000 sticker price. So you GSR owners paid about 5000 more for rear disk brakes and a differently engineered suspention. oh and i can't forget the strut tower braces. I mean who cars how your car comes stock if your gunna mod it up anyways. I was thinking about it and i should have bought the LS with a stick instead of the Z24 i would have saved money. Thas what serious honda guys do too. Buy a dx civic and slap a B18c in it. So you GSR owners payed 5000 more for shit your just gonna throw away and upgrade later. The after market support for cavaliers is pretty big now for all you cocky honda owners. We can do swaps with cavaliers too, we just bever had to. No civic si can beet my car. No del sol can beet my car, no crx can beet my car. You fags need engine swaps.

any body wanna continue arguing against something they dont know about?! good, i personally know TRD and our buddy with the GSR.. we have their races on film. half way through 2nd gear the difference between the race is 3ft.. and TRD smokes the tires the ENTIRE TIME through first and part way through 2nd and chirps em in 3rd.. with low quality bolt on mods. a GSR will not smoke a z24 cavalier (if they both have minor mods, intake, exhaust and what have you) it will beat it but not smoke it. dont believe me, ill show you the god damn videos. both cars got pros and cons, its just that the GSR's cons are the Z24's pros and vice versa. if you got the money getta GSR, if you dont, get a Z24.. you wont be sacraficing too much while saving 6 grand.

im sorry but theres no way on earth i can say that a gsr and a z24 are equal without laughing:rolleyes:

anyone with that mindset is suffering from delusions of grandeur.

from build quality to performance, the GSR is superior

wow, looks like u guys have nothing to do. Did you guy go and spend good time faking a race with a GSR and a Z, so that you can win an argument on some silly forum?? A win is a win. Why pay more? lets see, its a better looking car (love the 3rd gens). In about 2-3 yrs i can still say that i have a 15.4(stock) car, while the z24 is clunking down its last drag stip. Oh yea, high torque is good any all but its nothing, listen, NOTHING if you dont have the power to back it up. Ask any one who raced an import, off the line high torque cars pulls ahead of the imports. But give it .5-2sec and the import will catch up and leave you in the dust. I just love the look on the people in their stangs when my car goes into 2nd and pull ahead of them. Enuff said, like everyone else is saying Integs are superior.

Originally posted by RedRocketGSR
I got a 95 GSR and a friend of mine has a 99 cavalier Z24. Ever since i got this car all these people wanna race. All he has is exhaust and all i have is intake. My question is....how will i do?
cocky huh?......I hate ppl like that especially when they drive a cavalier, where do you live I want to race him????????
PS- smoke him dude:smoker:

sorry man .. both stock .. any way you slice it.. gsr..

Originally posted by THE4TH
sorry man .. both stock .. any way you slice it.. gsr..
GSR all the way.

TRDcavalier you do know TRD stands for Toyota Racing Development?

i thought of that too.. but i think he was reffering to another person's tag name.. it looked odd to me too.. but it's just someone's name..
lol glad i'm not the only one..

Originally posted by THE4TH
i thought of that too.. but i think he was reffering to another person's tag name.. it looked odd to me too.. but it's just someone's name..
lol glad i'm not the only one..
yea, I was hesitant to bring it up. lol

lol.. i didn't want to be the first..
i had to read it like 3 times just to make sure...

i have a Nismo civic Si didnt you know?

lol.. yeah kinda like my dad's mugen ford explorer.. lol

Originally posted by THE4TH
lol.. yeah kinda like my dad's mugen ford explorer.. lol
ROFLMAO!:hehehe:

you know what i'm talking about .. you've seen those explorers that are like 1 inch off the ground.. and all decked out with mirror windows..
and a b18c5 in it.. lol.. with jap stickers all over it.. lol ..

ok i have a first gen integra 1989 (automatic-hopefully not for long) and i can tell u my friend at work who has a z24 stick shift with a stainless custom entire exhuast system and a intake i keep up with him for about 95% of the way he usually pulls ahead and wins by a fender and i am only running performance wise...intake, headers, ZC cams and a constant 93 octane...i would assume a integra with prolly about 30-40 more hp and about a good 8yrs on my teg could easily roast a shitty ass CAV

preach on brother.. lol.. preach on ..

drift get the fuck out if you are going to diss on hondas, this is the HONDA forum by the way

he's more than welcome in the honda forum.. just not to flame..
i mean your welcome to discuss your dislike for hondas.. just keep it to a minimum...speak more good... thanx..

Originally posted by CrazyFukr
drift get the fuck out if you are going to diss on hondas, this is the HONDA forum by the way

You also have no right to flame other members.

As THE4TH said this is a large open forum and anyone is free to share thier opinion in a rational and friendly manner. You dont have to agree with it, but you do have to respect it.

The Z24, is nothin next to a gsr with simple bolt-ons (on both cars). even a stock gsr would take a Z24, w/ intake header exhaust. he'd jump the line, then at the end of 1st, an shifting to 2nd, u'd leave him. im not dawgin ppl who drive cavaliers, jus seems like every single one i've seen/raced, were pieces of junk w/ huge exhaust's an a wing. they aren't quick, i havent seen a quick one (not sayin they're not out there), an if i lose to one, then i'll give him his props...but up here, thats not gonna happen. in the words of torreto from the f&f, "smoke him" heh.
-Peace

did you race him yet? :confused:

ok guys....lets clear up a few things...

1: the TRD thing...just in case you guys didn't know the cavalier went to JAPAN as a TOYOTA...yeap thats right the Toyata cavalier.... and yes TRD DID make parts for the car a....lot.... of parts.

2: a stock GSR vs a STOCK z-24 with equal drivers= the gsr coming out on top...it will be a good pull down low with the z-24 having 155ft lbs of tq. but the GSR will make up for it in 3rd and with vtec engaement.

3: i (well my wife) happan to own a 97 z-24 cavalier, and a 91 integra LS.... the ls is modded , the only thing the z has is a exhaust but the z will stick with the ls 1-2 and till the middle of 2nd after that is all over. i know its just a LS but i do have another car (check the sig)

4: a lot of people talk about honda this and honda that...but know nothing about the next car.... i think before you talk noise about something you should atleast know something about it. i know this might make somebody mad... but im only telling the truth so if you get mad...... it means you don't know whats going on.....

now i'm just trying to spread some "knowledge" becuase i bet NOBODY besides TRD.... knew about the cavalier in japan thing. you wouldn't beleive the things you could find out if you would just READ!!!! :eek:

alrite, i dunno why ur over-hyping the 155lbs of torque. the 27 more isn't going to make the cav pull that hard on the gsr off the line. it MIGHT have 1/8 of a car from that torque, then that would be lost after 1st gear VTEC. u have never seen a cav vs gsr w/ equal drivers have u? ur complaining about our "lack of knowledge" well, dood ur making some points that aren't tru.
yes, i didn't kno about the TRD thing, but i really didn't go look it up online, an the reason why u keep seeing "honda this honda that..." is because u are IN THE HONDA PART OF THIS FORUM. heh, if i come off as "angry," im really not, im jus statin my views on ur post. :D

a stock GSR vs a STOCK z-24 with equal drivers= the gsr coming out on top...it will be a good pull down low with the z-24 having 155ft lbs of tq. but the GSR will make up for it in 3rd and with vtec engaement.


K-check this. I have a good friend that had a bone STOCK z-24, I went with him to the dealer to buy it. It was a 99 with 22000 miles on it. We raced (I had a 93 Civic EX coupe with about 70000 miles) and I smoked him - all through my 1st - more so in 2nd ..and 3rd was just for show.

At first he blamed it on the fact he didn't know he car well enough to race it. After he got used to the car, we decided to have a rematch.... I beat him again - we were neck and neck up til I hit about 6000 (in VTEC) in 2nd but of course I won. At that point, I thought that I was just the better driver out of us - so we swapped cars. I ended up losing to my own car by about the same. A month after that, all I heard from my friend is that he was gipped by Chevy and was going to sell it for a Civic.

-ps. he has that same civic still and he roasts cavaliers up and down to this day. (MORALE OF THE STORY: a GS-R will DESTORY a Z24.period.)

Originally posted by KrNxRaCer00
alrite, i dunno why ur over-hyping the 155lbs of torque. the 27 more isn't going to make the cav pull that hard on the gsr off the line. it MIGHT have 1/8 of a car from that torque, then that would be lost after 1st gear VTEC. u have never seen a cav vs gsr w/ equal drivers have u? ur complaining about our "lack of knowledge" well, dood ur making some points that aren't tru.
yes, i didn't kno about the TRD thing, but i really didn't go look it up online, an the reason why u keep seeing "honda this honda that..." is because u are IN THE HONDA PART OF THIS FORUM. heh, if i come off as "angry," im really not, im jus statin my views on ur post. :D


boy...i guess you didn't read my statements too well.....im not over hyping nothing.... tq is tq... like i said "down low the z-24 will beat the GSR" then i said " but by third gear the GSR will be gone".... YES ... have seen a Z and a GSR go at it with equal drivers....more than once. a for the "lack of knowledge" thing...seems like i hit a spot....throw a rock in a pack of dogs, the one you hit is the one thats going to bark. lack of knowledge do not mean you are STUPID... it just means you didn't know THATS IT.

as for the honda this honda that thing...yes...honda are dependable and with the right money can be very quick cars...but its not the only car on the planet...check any other forum and ask who are the worst car owners and they will tell you honda guys.... i take offense to that because i own one but its stupid people with i/h/e who run around and rev on people and think they can beat everyone in the street.

my whole point....... drivers make the car no matter what... if you can drive and have a slight advantage over the other car you can suprise the next guy... i NEVER said a Z will beat a GSR but if both drivers are compentent it will be a good run. THAT WAS MY WHOLE POINT!!!!!!!


:D

no, i read it fine. what i am saying is that it isn't going to take until 3rd gear to pull on the z. end of 1st it will pull hard during VTEC an make up ANY lost ground. yes, honda drivers are some of the worst, i will agree with this. but that is the ricers, an every type of car has them. i've even seen euro cars made into garbage because people try to rice them out (sad really). i guess the honda scene is really just getting out of hand...:D

Was that even a question? a GSR vs a Z24? What? sory, but that was kinda funny. Its pretty obvious!

Originally posted by friday86
Was that even a question? a GSR vs a Z24? What? sory, but that was kinda funny. Its pretty obvious!

if it's so obvious, could you at least say which one, because there seems to be some questionable competing on the two thus far.

-ps. he has that same civic still and he roasts cavaliers up and down to this day. (MORALE OF THE STORY: a GS-R will DESTORY a Z24.period.)

I agree 100%. I have raced two z24's and they seemed kinda weak to me. Just my .02

lol...i'd hope so man...u run a 14.6 1/4...i think u'd leave my car an think it didn't have much haha... still, have said it about 5 times, but once again, GSR IS FASTER THEN A Z24 (stock)

lol...i'd hope so man...u run a 14.6 1/4...i think u'd leave my car an think it didn't have much haha... still, have said it about 5 times, but once again, GSR IS FASTER THEN A Z24 (stock)

I beat the z24's all motor no nitrous. If I was spraing it would have been just brutal lol.

Z24 is weak..i'll smoke them anyday everyday 24/7

alright TRDcavalier. Every post I've read from you so far was complete crap. First you're talking about the Z24 being a better track car than a GSR ??? where in the hell do you get that? So it has more torque big deal, just dowshift another gear in the GSR and hit the Vtec out of the corner and you'll leave that little Z24 in the dust. A GSR will outhandle a cavalier any day. Also when you're saying that nothing happens in a GSR until you hit about 6000 rpm you should think about why it was designed that way. Asian people are pretty smart. They designed a car that you can take to the track and do good all day long and it won't blow up unlike a cavalier. But for every other day you're not at the track you only have to go to the gas station half as often as you do in a cavalier. Another thing is you can rev a GSR at 8000rpm and it will last longer than a cavalier that you rev at 4000 rpm for the same time. Point is you get what you pay for. True a GSR costs 5000 more than a cavalier but that's 5k that you'll save in repairs you'd have to do on the cavalier and still you have a way better car right out of the box. If you think about it every single part on a GSR is better engineered than on a cavalier and will last at least twice as long. So if I was you I would go to an Acura dealership, trade in you cavalier (if they'll take it) and invest some money on a quality car.

I've raced vs. plenty of GSR's and Z24's. I call them wannbeeZ because there is only one true Z family (Hey, don't mention that damn Z06) I always beat the Z24's by more than what I beat the GSR's by. If you lose, then he has a lot more than what he says, or your shifting needs work. I'll put money you anyday. $5 right here! I'm not sure what they are, but you should find out what your optimal shift points are to help you out. Good Luck!

:alien: I have both. An 89 Integra ( RS Model) 1.6 with 254K on it(VERY TRUE) and a 93 Z24 (fiances)3.1 V6 with 149K on it. Size comparisons are similar. The response of the Integra tranny is very quick and strong. The Z is very strong but not as quick. Not to put down Chevy but with the V6 you would think they would have had a more performance based tranny. All in all my Integra can and has put her Z to shame but it was close. Kepp in mind that there is a big HP difference between the two. But hands down the Integra is a better competitor than the Z24. I am starting on the Integra modifications soon(body,engine,interior) and I will post the pics asap. This is a greta site for all auto enthusiasts.

Welcome to the boards mixerone.

INTEGRA NO DOUBT

-2000 integra LS
-auto (new tranny on the way)
-LS/vtec built motor custom built by dave hickman racing
-b16 head
-sleeved b18block
-aem v2 cold air intake
-custom ported intake manifold and throttle body
-msd sci
-15 inch racing hart cp-f tune r
-195/50/15 dunlop sp 9000's
-skunk2 coilovers
-tokicko shocks
-spoon style carbon fiber lip
-wings west sideskirts
-oem vis carbon fiber hood
-sparco torino look alike seats spent too much on my motor
-brembo clipers and rotors
-ST swaybars
-spoon struts
-spoon headers
-skunk2 catback exhaust
p28 modified ecu 5500 vtec 9500 rev limit
and i dont remember anything else right now

wut car is the ls/vtec in? cuz 12.5 is tough w/ only 230 WHP (means bout 260 to the fly) in an integra which would be around 2600lbs.

Not to mention an auto tranny. Just a little hard to believe. Lets see them slips.

12.5 0-60...J/k...I can't crack 12's yet on my new project with 260 to the wheels (okay, 3500lbs is a lot!) Stay TUNED!

1 word to describe the z24...American. sure american car companies make some good cars, but they are to wrapped up in economical compatition to deal with high performance technology like honda, and other car companies like nissan and mazda, so its almost gurrenteid (i cant spell) you kill kick the shit out of his z24

hey where did mister TRD cavy go to tell us how much he's in Denial about buying a Chevy

12.5 was on slicks and without backseats or rear panels its in a dc2 integra.... not sure what my power is now 230 was without bolt-ons just a fully built motor i may be up near 250 now havent dynoed recently.....

my friend has a 98 z24 and smoked a 00 si civic. they were both stock and it wasn't even close.

my 92 integra could take him at 140hp stock. I ran a 15.7 with good tuning and an open exhaust. Your gsr should be in the mid to low 15's too except if your racing conditions are hot as hell and the air is thin.

This is so funny my friend has a hooked up Z24...it has some speed I'll give him that....but he says if I buy myself a GSR he will blow me away....:thefinger We'll see about that....Prove me right defend the Teg name

where's carmel NY:bloated:

a friend of my has an z24 and he smoked a viper off the line til 250mph :eek: :rolleyes:
go race to find out! :spit: that's the fun part :bigthumb:

LOL....Carmel is a small town about an hour North of the City in Putnam County...I figured NO one has heard of it unless they live near it

Ok, point of fact

1. z24 looks like crap GSR looks like a killer (came from a poll) and honestly if you or anyone chose looks..gsr would come on top

2. z24 stock vs GSR stock, z24 could NEVER win.. you all know it. dont even count mods cuz they're just not normal cars anymore. no crap about the racer behind the wheels either. the GSR is still and always will be a faster car.

3. z24 and gsr weigh about the same. 4cyls, honda pumping 170 horses out of 1.8 4cyl, come on...that's some efficiency right there.

4. there's a REASON why integras are featured so much on magazines.. why? because it's a better car. z24? say what? good for the money but never a better car. go home.

5. you KNOW you see a lot more GSR's than u see z24's. do i even have to explain why? i dont hate on z24's.. jsut stating the obvious..thank u thank u

the average modded Z24 has spinning lights on the valve stems, stickers, and 13 in polished aluminum american racing rims (most likely 3 spokes)

im not saying hondas never look like this, but theyre fewer and farther between. it seems like every time i see a modded Z24, it looks like shit, and i have seen some nice ones, they were just in magazines, or they looked completely stock and ran like 14.5

I know that this is a Honda forum, but I feel the need to chime in on this discussion. Why are we comparing a top of the line integra to a Z24? The Z24 is an economy gm car. Remind yourself of the price difference of the two. You are comparing two completely different price tiers. I would certainly hope that you get more out of a car that you pay 6-8 grand more for. Unfortunately, if were talking stock, I don't see the differences between the acura and the z24 as being worth that much money, but hey, everyone has their preferences. Now, just to shut all of you up, I want you to go out and race something that is in your price bracket, like a grand prix. Granted the GSR is now defunct, but now they have the RSX which is basically it's eqivalent. Lets see... a loaded up RSX type S costs around 25-26K. The grand prix GT costs about the same. Go race one (and pray it's not a GTP) and then talk. I don't give a rats ass what you have for mods. Vehicle comparisons made by professionals like Car and Driver and Motor Trend are made based on STOCK VEHICLES. No stock RSX is going to take a grand prix (especially the GTP). Due to the extroardinary weight difference, you may be faster off the line until you get to say oh about... 10mph and then you will feel the grand prix's authority coming up behind you and roar right past at about 4 grand, while you queers are topping out at like 8500. That's how american vehicles do it. HAVE SOME MORE RESPECT FOR YOUR COUNTRY!! After your done wiping the tears from your eyes, go out and buy any civic and race a Z24. Now there's an equal price match. Granted this will be close, but in the end I will put my money on the Z. Look at the numbers. They don't lie.

ive raced like 2 or 3 and my car is stock and thier car had exhaust but the races were close but i won///// i think it will depend on how of a good driver you are i say its 50/50 any thing can happen

Well dude, I dont know what type of grand prix you were racing, but the lowest grand prix available has a 3100SFI that pumps out 170 hp. Maybe you were racing one of those. The GT and the GTP come with a 3800 SFI that pumps out 205 and 265 hp respectively. There is no way on god's green earth that you will take one if you are running stock. My brother has a 2001 GTP and that only has 245hp as opposed to the new one and he has never had any problem stomping Integra's and RSX's that are stock. Even the tricked out ones with the intake and exhaust aren't enough to take it. I'm not talking about losing by a couple of inches either. It's more like carlengths. I live in Syracuse NY and there is kind of a street racing area nearby where people gather on the weekends. Every car imaginable usually shows up and I've watched him race time and time again. It's the same scenario every time. The teg or the rsx gets the jump and has the lead for a few seconds but thats about it. Well, I'm not going to argue forever with the guys in this forum. It just disappoints me that everyone's pride here is too big to show some friggin respect for american cars. Granted, my hat's off to GSR's and RSX-S' because they will take a Z24, but it truly is an unjust comparison. After all, you get what you pay for and for a car that costs nearly 50% more, that acura had damn well better be moving faster.

Ok mdb25 I think you are about as dumb as they come!:thefinger The reason the acura casts more is b/c it is an import and it is made alot better! When you buy a z24 and drive it off the lot it will go down in value drastically(as all american cars do) but the acura will have alot more resell value off the lot! I bet that my 95 integra is valued more than your 2002 cavy. And another thing a z24 as a economy car, I'll give you that but what are you saying about the acura, is 30-35 mpg not considered economy? The acura also has a smaller engine too I think the z24 has what a 2.5L or something when the integra has a 1.8! And as far as the grandprix thing they are not that fast unless they are the gtp models and even then if you want to compare apples to apples then we are going to whip out the S2000 and belive me it will walk the GTP baddly. And the only reason the GTP has any speed at all is b/c it has a Supercharger:thefinger If you put a vortec on a gsr it will spank that GTP nasty bad! Your argument is like saying race a stock SVT supercharged cobra against a stock Z28 yes the z28 is going to loose but if the playing field was leveled then the Z28 would be close if not faster.

first of all WOW this is a great post ( even if there are a few dilusional z24 owners) i own a 93 gs-r (stock)and have raced some cavaliers they were those new ugly yellow ones with the factory equipped rims and ground effects ( you all know the ones!) I would first like to mention that my car is 10 years old has 150,000 miles on it and i only paid 2400 for it and it can crush a cavalier, now i don't know if the ones i raced were z24 or not but even so ANY cavalier will never compare to a integra or any other honda or acura , and by the way this is not blind honda owner pride, I have also owned ( in order) a 1988 dodge 600, a 1989 ford bronco2, a 1989 dodge daytona, and a 1996 dodge neon, and have driven other crappy cars of the like, even a 97 cavalier. I used to think exactly the same as other that hondas sucked and were slow till i bought my gs-r and now i am a faithful honda follower. the integra is just much better put together better engineered and will last you alot longer whether you drive it hard or not. Can some of you honestly tell me that if a cavalier could ever be faster than a integra given the same amount of money to spend on mods? not likely. so anyway back to my point i raced that cavalier on flat ground, on hils, on straight aways and bends and came out on top every time, and i don't think any integra owner that can drive should have any problem beating a cavalier with similar mods.

Well, thanks for insulting my car. Yes, I drive one of those "crappy new yellow ones." Anyway whtteg, don't ever call me dumb. I have done more engine swaps and more auto body work than most people my age and I'm 23. Please keep the insults to a minimum and don't ever question my integrity. You seem to have overlooked everything that I had written. We are talking STOCK comparisons and like I said, no GSR or RSX is going to take a Grand Prix. As for the Honda S, well of course it's faster. What does it cost again? Oh yeah, it's like 5 grand more than a GTP. Enough said. I am not denying that an RSX or a GSR will beat a cavalier. I already admitted to that, but for some reason, you idiots keep on reminding me. Yes, acuras hold their value quite well, but it's like I said, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. Of course the acura is better built and faster. That's why it costs so much more you friggin idiot. God, use some common sense. :biggrin2: As for the grand prix, even the GT which isn't supercharged, will spank GSR/RSX. Please, go to the grand prix forum and tell them what you told me. The cavalier is by no means a sports car, but the GSR/RSX certainly are. I just find it funny how you homos have to compare your shit with cars that are like half the price of yours. Please, go compare yourselves with a Z28 or a GTP, which costs the same. Now please bring me any stock base integ or civic and compare to my Z's. Trust me, you will not take a Z24, at least not the ones with the 2.4 Twin Cam or the 2.2 Ecotec.

I think both of you have your fare share of thoughful arguments, although, here's how I see it. The only fare comparison for a GTP in Honda's line-up would be the new Honda Accord V6. And the only good matchup for a Z24 would be a Honda Civic Si. And the only fare comparison for the Honda S2000 would be a V8 Camaro, Firebird, or Mustang which still isn't the best to compare. It's hard to compare American cars with Imports because they both have very different marketing strategies which may be why there is so much conflict between Chevy and Honda owners.

But just for the record, here are some stats I found...

2000 Chevrolet Cavalier Z24 --- 0-60: 7.9sec
2000 Chevrolet Cavalier LS --- 0-60: 9.7sec

2000 Honda Civic Si --- 0-60: 7.2sec
2000 Honda Civic EX --- 0-60: 8.5sec

(and...)

1999 Pontiac Grand Prix GT --- 0-60: 7.8sec
2003 Acura RSX Type S --- 0-60: 6.7sec
2000 Acura Integra GSR --- 0-60: 7.2sec

(but...)

2003 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP --- 0-60: 6.7sec
2003 Honda Accord V6 --- 0-60: 6.7sec (hmmm)

2003 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP --- MSRP: $27,045
2003 Honda Accord V6 --- MSRP: $26,360 - $28,360

hey mdb25 sorry bought dissin you ride, i guess it comes down to individual taste. by the way what town in central new york are you in?

anyway back to the question at hand, I went through some car and driver issues and found stats similar to the ones posted above , so i guess an integra (especially one with vtec) will stomp a z24