Help on engine swap

Hey all,

I need help figuring out what to do with a swap. Im swaping out the engine on my 89 CRX Si. I have a long list of engines that i can put into the car but i dont know the pros/cons of each.

Friend of mine can get me a B18C5 (type-r i beleive) but i hear that is a bastard to install

what engine whould you sugest and what all do i need besides the engine?? <tranie, drive train, suspention, ecu???>

thanks for any help

All B-Series engines need New mounts from HAsport.com or placracing.com, also Hondamotorsonline.com sells complete swaps! Everything u need!

I am going ZC/Turbo, u can use all of ur stock stuff except u will mostlikely need a new ECU!

Good luck!:)

Don't forget the D16z6 or D16y8. They're cheap, have 125hp, and VTEC. They also bolt right up, and you can even use the tranny in your car now. Also, it's a USDM engine so parts are a lot easier to get, and the aftermarket support is fairly large. The drawbacks are that if your going to use the p28 ECU, which is highly recommended, there is a lot of wiring which is a PITA, and the motors are only SOHC.

If you can afford it i'd say go with the b18c5, otherwise go with a b18c1, you will be happier believe me. If i had to do it over i would've gotten one of those instead of the b16a. Although the b16a is doing very well for me.

Originally posted by Chhuong
If you can afford it i'd say go with the b18c5, otherwise go with a b18c1, you will be happier believe me. If i had to do it over i would've gotten one of those instead of the b16a. Although the b16a is doing very well for me.

Well it also depends if he wants to go BOOST ( i hate turbo ) or ALL - MOTOR ( i worship anyone whos down with all motor ) so it just really depends. IF you're goin all motor then i'd get the b8c5 , but b16 is my favorite to tell you the truth. Its affordable and it has so much freakin potential man! aahh fuck it ...do whatever you like!:finger: ;)d

B16 swap is easy and relatively cheap....

www.phhatwhippinCRX.20m.com for swap info

Also, same page for the ZC swap....

For boost, either B18a/b or B20z/b..... both are better choices and less expensive than either the B18c1 or B18c5....

B16a is still a very kickass motor...... but boosted B20z/b is where it's at....

Dam, thanks for all the info guys. that was fast work for one night.

I was thinking of going with the B18C5 cause a freind of mine can hook me up with the engine and trany for about $950 but i will still need to hunt down axles, mounts, ecu and all that.

anyone know if the over all weight is an issue though?? would somthing like this effect the handeling of the car?

Originally posted by Corwin
Dam, thanks for all the info guys. that was fast work for one night.

I was thinking of going with the B18C5 cause a freind of mine can hook me up with the engine and trany for about $950 but i will still need to hunt down axles, mounts, ecu and all that.

anyone know if the over all weight is an issue though?? would somthing like this effect the handeling of the car?

DAMN 950!!! Yeh i'd definatley go for it especially that price man! Oh about the weight, its not gonna affect it that much. Its safer u have upgraded suspension though?:)

no i dont have any upgrades on the suspeson yet. that was actualy one of the first things on the list to do, but then the timing belt blew........so yea engine swap first :)

and holy crap i just went to hondamostersonline and saw the same engine for close to 4 grand

HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLZZZZZZZZZZZ NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! :)

whos your friend? can he get more? i got 950 right here :D send it to me

are you sure on that price? i would get it in writing...and maybe check the engine out and see some papers before i bought it..you're talking about a $5000 engine for under a grand...seems kinda shady to me...if people could find b18c5s for 950 everyone would have one...even stolen..someone would have to be a jackass to sell it for 950!



i hardly would ever recomend a b18c5 swap. not unless you have a ton of money.
go with the b18c1..gsr engine. it will save you so much. then you can use the money to fix that up.
i went with the b16a. it came with the 160hp and zero torque. but hey, it cost $1100 shipped. then i used that extra $4000 that i didnt use to buy the b18c5, and i gave my b16a another 240hp 160lbs torque. just all motor my b16 out ranks a type r by almost 70hp 50lbs torque. and after all the work..i think i have enough money left over to buy another b16a.

so like i said. the only times i would recomend a b18c5 would be in a show car (due to rareity of the swap...as expensive as it is, i still think its a cool thing to see), or if you had a ton of money to spend. if i had say 6-7grand i would have gone with the type r too...but i didnt.

Originally posted by threethirteen
... then i used that extra $4000 that i didnt use to buy the b18c5, and i gave my b16a another 240hp 160lbs torque. just all motor my b16 out ranks a type r by almost 70hp 50lbs torque. and after all the work..i think i have enough money left over to buy another b16a.

damn dude, what is your setup? thats a bad ass car...:cool:

Originally posted by ricodemus


damn dude, what is your setup? thats a bad ass car...:cool:

shit i'd like to know also since i'm goin all motor.

heh...a lot of work...and good prices. a lot of help from friends. basically i dont know much about engines..i know heads, and bolt-ons..i can custom a hella turbo kit..and i found that im good at finding where the engine bolts are..
but i ended up with some JE pistons, esp rods, headwork is mostly skunk2 and spoon sports...some hks cam gears. nice p&p, block was resleeved...and some other crap (i dont know i didnt touch the block, im only good with giving good heads...:licker: j/k)

we took a b16a from a 2000 civic si...stripped it..then put all new crap in it. except the ctr crankshaft was used (like 3500miles. or something)...
after that i slapped a turbo on it..i dont really use it high though...its set at 6-7psi..

it seems a lot more attainable that it is..people underestimate the b16s...i love them. i tried getting a b16b...but no go. but i guess there wouldnt have been much difference..just the serial number.

Originally posted by threethirteen
heh...a lot of work...and good prices. a lot of help from friends. basically i dont know much about engines..i know heads, and bolt-ons..i can custom a hella turbo kit..and i found that im good at finding where the engine bolts are..
but i ended up with some JE pistons, esp rods, headwork is mostly skunk2 and spoon sports...some hks cam gears. nice p&p, block was resleeved...and some other crap (i dont know i didnt touch the block, im only good with giving good heads...:licker: j/k)

we took a b16a from a 2000 civic si...stripped it..then put all new crap in it. except the ctr crankshaft was used (like 3500miles. or something)...
after that i slapped a turbo on it..i dont really use it high though...its set at 6-7psi..

it seems a lot more attainable that it is..people underestimate the b16s...i love them. i tried getting a b16b...but no go. but i guess there wouldnt have been much difference..just the serial number.

Shit i'd thought u were all motor? Anyways nice set up. I bet u guys saved a whole lot of money since you and your friends did the workand don't have to pay for labor:)

well..all motor this setup ran 265hp 184lbs torque. still a pretty hot ticket.

i have a turbo on it though. i ran 401hp 271lbs @ 20psi
i dont know what the hell i run daily...no need to test that...dont care..

but if i hadnt gotten the turbine free i would have kept it all motor. better response..plus believe it or not...it is more rare to have a fast car without it.

Hello all,

One of my friends up in Rhode Island owns a few auto shops and I'm just starting to sell some engines for him. Check out the following prices and let me know if this is even worth doing!

:rolleyes:

JDM B16b TypeR 4700 + s/h
JDM B16a1 1550 + s/h
JDM B16a2 2480 + s/h
JDM B18c1 "GSR" 3300 + s/h
JDM B18c5 4900 + s/h
JDM H22a 2530 + s/h

Shipping is exact shipping and its about 280-300$ for anywhere in the continental U.S. Anyways, this is my first stab at automotive aftermarket performance. He also deals with 127 manufactures including Spoon, GReddy,HKS, Mugen, Extreme motor sports, so you could be guaranteed at least a 20-25% discount on aftermarket parts. Well thats it. You can either send me mail at the email address registered here or at jr1225@messiah.edu , which I check several times daily. Thank you everyone.

Jonathan :)

Originally posted by mellowboy


Well it also depends if he wants to go BOOST ( i hate turbo ) or ALL - MOTOR ( i worship anyone whos down with all motor ) so it just really depends. IF you're goin all motor then i'd get the b8c5 , but b16 is my favorite to tell you the truth. Its affordable and it has so much freakin potential man! aahh fuck it ...do whatever you like!:finger: ;)d


huh?? why the fuck would you want to put a turbo on a B18C5?? umm you know those motors come with high ass compression, right? that wouldnt make any sense... also, THREETHIRTEEN... you have a B16 2nd gen with a hydro tranny... this guy has a cable tranny.... so why would he want to go through the trouble of doing a tranny conversion??? and DO you know what all-motor means?? and what are you talking about when you say Skunk II head work??? there's no such thing!!... wow! some of you guys need to brush up on your knowledge... if you want to get REAL answers that make sense... go to HondaSwap.com and check out our forums... BTW, tormx, those engine prices are high as fuck... i can get a B16a1 for $1200, complete

hey shithead, i never said anything about him getting a gen2 b16a. i simply said b16a. he can get a gen1 if he wants to (people can think on their own you know). and a hydro tranny swap is not all the difficult.
and thats an interesting point about skunk2...they dont make camshafts? of valve springs? titanium retainers...gee, thats odd...i wonder how they make money to stay in business if they dont make any of these things. i guess i DO have to brush up on my knowledge...

thanks for the pointers!

Originally posted by threethirteen
hey shithead, i never said anything about him getting a gen2 b16a. i simply said b16a. he can get a gen1 if he wants to (people can think on their own you know). and a hydro tranny swap is not all the difficult.
and thats an interesting point about skunk2...they dont make camshafts? of valve springs? titanium retainers...gee, thats odd...i wonder how they make money to stay in business if they dont make any of these things. i guess i DO have to brush up on my knowledge...

thanks for the pointers!

OMFG.... how are camshafts HEADWORK???? do you even fuckin know what the word HEADWORK means??? head work means something like port and polish, milled, bored.... you really are a fucking retard arent you... and FIRST of all, the guy that started this thread was talking about transplanting an engine into his OBD0 rex... then you start telling him about putting in the SAME b16 that you have.. umm hey fucktard, you DO have a GEN 2 B16, with a hydro tranny... WHY THE FUCK would you want to do a tranny conversion for the GEN 2 when he can get 10 less horses for the GEN 1... omfg... you are a fuckin moron... i'll put 20 bucks down that your car REALLY only has around 180 horses... and are you sure its a B16 GEN 2 in your car?? do you know what those look like?? lmao... fucktard.. LOL.... i suggest you quit opening up your mouth, everytimg you do, you make yourself look stupid... 401 horses huh?? BULLSHIT... okay list everything you have done to your car... i'll tell you how much horses it REALLY has

Originally posted by LSyellowREX



huh?? why the fuck would you want to put a turbo on a B18C5?? umm you know those motors come with high ass compression, right? that wouldnt make any sense...

If you re-read mellowboys post, he said


Originally posted by mellowboy


IF you're goin all motor
then i'd get the b8c5 , but b16 is my favorite to tell you the truth.


brush up on your literary skills, then come register here and flame. Also, ive seen hondaswap, decent site, im sure one day it will be great. Its just too bad they have people like you representing it on other boards.
im skeptical about the 400 claimed horses as well though....
so rock on man
:finger:

Originally posted by EightOhOne



brush up on your literary skills, then come register here and flame. Also, ive seen hondaswap, decent site, im sure one day it will be great. Its just too bad they have people like you representing it on other boards.
im skeptical about the 400 claimed horses as well though....
so rock on man
:finger:

oh okay :p , i thought he said if you're going boost, get the B18C5.. i was like, huh?? THIRTEEN is the fucktard here.... and im not flaming this forum, a lot of you know your shit... :D ...i just hate to see people get mis-informed..

okay three thirteen,
what motor put out 265hp, and 184tq??? I highly doubt that any honda motor going all motor can put out that much tq.

So i'm calling bs, cuz how can you go from a high comp all motor beast and then just bolt on a turbo, how do you go and do that!!!!