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ZedEx
07-31-2005, 01:53 PM
So how much is the full swap running these days?
-Wes
-Wes
lost
07-31-2005, 02:03 PM
So how much is the full swap running these days?
-Wes
i assume you are asking the price of the conversion.if this is a project you are serious about attempting,give me a call at 678-698-7426.if your first question is the price,however,i can assure you that you will not do it.
if you were asking how much do i run it these days,the aswer is all of the time.
450zxtt
-Wes
i assume you are asking the price of the conversion.if this is a project you are serious about attempting,give me a call at 678-698-7426.if your first question is the price,however,i can assure you that you will not do it.
if you were asking how much do i run it these days,the aswer is all of the time.
450zxtt
MikeMan
07-31-2005, 04:28 PM
There you go, stoop to petty insults then demand respect. Good call.
Read all my previous posts. I attack the issues without attacking you. Now read all your posts. You somehow get confused between the issues raised and myself as a person, so you start resorting to sarcasm and trying to imply that I'm less intelligent. If you aren't prepared to provide me with respect regardless of opinion then I'm sure as hell not going to give you any in return. If I'm stooping to petty insults, then I'm stooping to your level.
My original beef with bringing things up without any evidence stands. I post a link. Provide a picture. Bring up a mathematical impossibility. Something. It's not all the most damning stuff in the world but it's a hundred times more solid then his story.
Agreed.
If you are going to claim "objectivity" on a subject then bring up both sides in your statements rather than just one.
It seems rather pointless for me to copy and paste your evidence into my posts. I do agree that your evidence brought up is rather damning, but for me, it's still not quite proof beyond reasonable doubt. Seeing as 'reasonable doubt' is subjective, that would indicate a difference of opinion here, which is why you're getting all hot under the collar.
Because you claim to be objective. And even if you are looking at both sides, only bringing up one is not objective.
As stated previously, why would i bring up your own arguments. If I was presenting all this to someone who hasn't seen the forum, I would of course bring up both sides, but it seems kinda pointless for me to copy your post and then add my 2c, when I can just post my 2c anyway.
Putting forth a point of view in defense of Zgringo. Better get on a retainer. He said he ran Pro-Mod. He is not listed in any Pro-Mod results. That is not subjective. He put up a picture of his "450Z". It was not a "450Z". That is not subjective. He has said he has done all of these things and can't produce a single shred of anything that could be judged by a rational person to be credible evidence to support any of them. And I always love how people say things like "worthless pissing contest" and yet always come back. But aside from a few things mentioned in this post, I have taken issue with Zgringo, not you. Yeah, I've taken quite a few shots at you, and I apologize for that. This thread is about him, not you. However, I will note that posting theory with no proof only adds to the pile of all things not definitive. This is about clarifying bullshit, not spreading it around.
Apology accepted and I apologise for my attacks on you.
It has been shown that Zgringo has lied. To narrow it down to one irrefutable lie, he posted a picture that was not what he claimed it was. All else he has claimed to do is in question through both evidence to the contrary and lack of supporting evidence where there should have been.
If it can be agreed that above statement has been sufficiently represented and that it is now on Zgringo to bring in something credible to take this any farther in any meaningful direction, I'll leave it at that.
Yes I agree, let's all leave it at that.
As a footnote, by my count of all participants there has been one blatant insult and many veiled ones amid a bunch of cocksmokery and some legitimate truth finding efforts. If that isn't civilized enough for an online forum, I would implore the judge and jury of such things to take a trip to the Honda section to put things in perspective.
Haha good point. Now we're going to get a whole buncoof honda drivers coming in here posting their 2c. Wes, I hope you've got a fire exinguisher ready. :D
Also, cheers guys, this thread has been pretty fun.
-Mike
Read all my previous posts. I attack the issues without attacking you. Now read all your posts. You somehow get confused between the issues raised and myself as a person, so you start resorting to sarcasm and trying to imply that I'm less intelligent. If you aren't prepared to provide me with respect regardless of opinion then I'm sure as hell not going to give you any in return. If I'm stooping to petty insults, then I'm stooping to your level.
My original beef with bringing things up without any evidence stands. I post a link. Provide a picture. Bring up a mathematical impossibility. Something. It's not all the most damning stuff in the world but it's a hundred times more solid then his story.
Agreed.
If you are going to claim "objectivity" on a subject then bring up both sides in your statements rather than just one.
It seems rather pointless for me to copy and paste your evidence into my posts. I do agree that your evidence brought up is rather damning, but for me, it's still not quite proof beyond reasonable doubt. Seeing as 'reasonable doubt' is subjective, that would indicate a difference of opinion here, which is why you're getting all hot under the collar.
Because you claim to be objective. And even if you are looking at both sides, only bringing up one is not objective.
As stated previously, why would i bring up your own arguments. If I was presenting all this to someone who hasn't seen the forum, I would of course bring up both sides, but it seems kinda pointless for me to copy your post and then add my 2c, when I can just post my 2c anyway.
Putting forth a point of view in defense of Zgringo. Better get on a retainer. He said he ran Pro-Mod. He is not listed in any Pro-Mod results. That is not subjective. He put up a picture of his "450Z". It was not a "450Z". That is not subjective. He has said he has done all of these things and can't produce a single shred of anything that could be judged by a rational person to be credible evidence to support any of them. And I always love how people say things like "worthless pissing contest" and yet always come back. But aside from a few things mentioned in this post, I have taken issue with Zgringo, not you. Yeah, I've taken quite a few shots at you, and I apologize for that. This thread is about him, not you. However, I will note that posting theory with no proof only adds to the pile of all things not definitive. This is about clarifying bullshit, not spreading it around.
Apology accepted and I apologise for my attacks on you.
It has been shown that Zgringo has lied. To narrow it down to one irrefutable lie, he posted a picture that was not what he claimed it was. All else he has claimed to do is in question through both evidence to the contrary and lack of supporting evidence where there should have been.
If it can be agreed that above statement has been sufficiently represented and that it is now on Zgringo to bring in something credible to take this any farther in any meaningful direction, I'll leave it at that.
Yes I agree, let's all leave it at that.
As a footnote, by my count of all participants there has been one blatant insult and many veiled ones amid a bunch of cocksmokery and some legitimate truth finding efforts. If that isn't civilized enough for an online forum, I would implore the judge and jury of such things to take a trip to the Honda section to put things in perspective.
Haha good point. Now we're going to get a whole buncoof honda drivers coming in here posting their 2c. Wes, I hope you've got a fire exinguisher ready. :D
Also, cheers guys, this thread has been pretty fun.
-Mike
ZedEx
07-31-2005, 05:30 PM
i assume you are asking the price of the conversion.if this is a project you are serious about attempting,give me a call at 678-698-7426.if your first question is the price,however,i can assure you that you will not do it.
if you were asking how much do i run it these days,the aswer is all of the time.
450zxtt
That's always the case... If you have to ask "How much?" that means you can not afford it :lol:
I was just asking out of pure curiosity.
-Wes
if you were asking how much do i run it these days,the aswer is all of the time.
450zxtt
That's always the case... If you have to ask "How much?" that means you can not afford it :lol:
I was just asking out of pure curiosity.
-Wes
MikeMan
08-01-2005, 06:41 PM
Hey guys,
Sorry to bring this up again, I said I'd leave it but I received an interesting email from zgringo a few days ago that I thought I should post bits here.
The picture of me I've included is for Broke....If you post it you might add If he'd like to call me my phone number is 52-696-577-2429.
http://blacknet.ath.cx/~blackeagle/Me2.jpg
At least he's got a sense of humour. :D
Also, I thought this might be interesting:
My real name is Keith Albert McCallson, but they can't say Keith in spanish so I go by Albert or Al.
He's also explained everything to me personally, but seeing as you've all already made up your minds, you'd take the whole email with a grain of salt anyway so I won't post it.
-Mike
Sorry to bring this up again, I said I'd leave it but I received an interesting email from zgringo a few days ago that I thought I should post bits here.
The picture of me I've included is for Broke....If you post it you might add If he'd like to call me my phone number is 52-696-577-2429.
http://blacknet.ath.cx/~blackeagle/Me2.jpg
At least he's got a sense of humour. :D
Also, I thought this might be interesting:
My real name is Keith Albert McCallson, but they can't say Keith in spanish so I go by Albert or Al.
He's also explained everything to me personally, but seeing as you've all already made up your minds, you'd take the whole email with a grain of salt anyway so I won't post it.
-Mike
1viadrft
08-01-2005, 07:57 PM
Jeesh... this is still going on?
I want to know more updates on the 450ZX!!!!
I want to know more updates on the 450ZX!!!!
Broke_as_****
08-01-2005, 10:24 PM
you'd take the whole email with a grain of salt anyway so I won't post it.
Because that would be such a terrible thing.
Anyway, he wasn't lying when he said he ain't pretty.
Because that would be such a terrible thing.
Anyway, he wasn't lying when he said he ain't pretty.
Broke_as_****
08-02-2005, 12:00 AM
Phone number? "Call can not be completed." I know I'm dialing right, pressing buttons is pretty easy. However he seems to have problems posting things that are what they are.
I want to know more updates on the 450ZX!!!!
Oh most definately, please post some updates. You know, real ones.
I want to know more updates on the 450ZX!!!!
Oh most definately, please post some updates. You know, real ones.
MikeMan
08-03-2005, 03:55 AM
Phone number? "Call can not be completed." I know I'm dialing right, pressing buttons is pretty easy. However he seems to have problems posting things that are what they are.
Sorry, my bad. I've been informed I've made a typo
The real number is 52-686-577-2429
Again, apologies for bringing this back up, and for making the mistake in the first place.
:D
-Mike
Sorry, my bad. I've been informed I've made a typo
The real number is 52-686-577-2429
Again, apologies for bringing this back up, and for making the mistake in the first place.
:D
-Mike
Yaggus
08-03-2005, 05:17 AM
... And i so cant wait for the response.... :biggrin:
MikeMan
08-03-2005, 07:13 AM
... And i so cant wait for the response.... :biggrin:
Yeah, i think i should have invested in a good suit or armor or at least a helmet before bringing this up again. :D
-Mike
Yeah, i think i should have invested in a good suit or armor or at least a helmet before bringing this up again. :D
-Mike
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