2006 eclipse encounter

Wow, I love how this dimished into a debate over New Chevy's andFord's, ratehr than a race that has yet to complete occur, I am just totally lost, and this thread is also prolly dead, boo I missed it....

my point is just because he has more hp , how does that constitute a faster car?? cornering and handling and braking are the most important factors in speed, not horse power

more hp "constitutes" a faster car, because it has more hp. how does a brake pad and say a strut bar make a car faster than the car thats got more engine? thats like saying putting a wing on a neon really does make it faster?

and i know what your thinkin, around corners and shit, maybe, but thats only gonna be if there within 5-20hp (guessing) of each other and depending on the weight. But if you put a Geo Metro against a Civic, the Civic's gonna win, weither that Metro has Brembo brakes and a full roll cage or not.

A pickup truck has more power than my car, but I'm faster. My friend's Lexus is rater at 200crank, and Im only at 184 crank, but I'm faster. My car has more HP than a motorcycle, but a bike is faster. HP=/=Faster

its all about power to weight ratio, and power below the curve... as i found out u want to max tq to be at the lowest rpm possible and ur peak hp to be at the highest rpm.. like mine. peak tq 3800 and peak rpm 6000.

A pickup truck has more power than my car, but I'm faster. My friend's Lexus is rater at 200crank, and Im only at 184 crank, but I'm faster. My car has more HP than a motorcycle, but a bike is faster. HP=/=Faster

"...other and depending on the weight." you might have overlooked something I wrote in the previous post. just pointing it out to ya so you can stop paraphrasing me as much as i enjoy it.

its all about power to weight ratio, and power below the curve... as i found out u want to max tq to be at the lowest rpm possible and ur peak hp to be at the highest rpm.. like mine. peak tq 3800 and peak rpm 6000.

power to weight ratio isnt all that much an indicator of speed either, especially if were talking about a race from a roll.

It also has to do with weight transfer, gearing and a host of other things. I always welcome more power but its clearly not the only thing that counts.

Now yall are fighting over this...Oh how the mighty fall, this is all up to the point of view here, a straight line car with massive HP(lets use an NHRA Funny car for example) will not be able to turn...period, therefore making somebodies moped faster than it in the twisties. Get teh idea, next up is the idea that your car is fast for what purpose you are building it for, an auto-x car against a drag car, it's liek compairing apples and oranges...It just doesn't equate.