2006 eclipse encounter
mason_RsX
07-27-2005, 08:36 AM
Oh please! The V6 is the base model. If you wanna compare the Mustang V6, compare it to the 4 banger Eclipse. And the new V6s aren't too shabby either.
"We knew something wasn't right with the 2003 movie 2 Fast 2 Furious. Specifically, we could not believe the angry, muscular ex-convict played by Tyrese Gibson would not only tolerate--but want to drive--a purple Mitsubishi Eclipse Spyder.
Sorry, after studying Finance and Statistics for about 13 hours Im a lil light headed...I completely forgot the eclipse had an I4 option
Eclipse Mustang
I4 < V6
V6 > V6
V6 < V8
Thats my opinion
and yeah the Eclipse spyder was NOT the car for 2fast 2 furious (as bad a movie as it was), but Mitsubishi paid them a boat load of money to drive mitsubishi cars, and they neded 2.... would this have been better?
Paul Walker: Look here bro, we gotta win this race bro, Ill take the Evo bro
Tyrese: yeah homeboy ill be ridin ma Montero Sport braaa.. This race is over, my Montero Sport will kill you bro!!!! I run these streets!! and the dirt trails bro!!
"We knew something wasn't right with the 2003 movie 2 Fast 2 Furious. Specifically, we could not believe the angry, muscular ex-convict played by Tyrese Gibson would not only tolerate--but want to drive--a purple Mitsubishi Eclipse Spyder.
Sorry, after studying Finance and Statistics for about 13 hours Im a lil light headed...I completely forgot the eclipse had an I4 option
Eclipse Mustang
I4 < V6
V6 > V6
V6 < V8
Thats my opinion
and yeah the Eclipse spyder was NOT the car for 2fast 2 furious (as bad a movie as it was), but Mitsubishi paid them a boat load of money to drive mitsubishi cars, and they neded 2.... would this have been better?
Paul Walker: Look here bro, we gotta win this race bro, Ill take the Evo bro
Tyrese: yeah homeboy ill be ridin ma Montero Sport braaa.. This race is over, my Montero Sport will kill you bro!!!! I run these streets!! and the dirt trails bro!!
TypeS
07-27-2005, 08:53 AM
Obviously the looks are gonna be a matter of taste, but we can't argue with the fact that the Mustang outperforms the Eclipse.
I still think that buying a car that already has a turbo in it opens up a lot more possibilities than an N/A V6.
I still think that buying a car that already has a turbo in it opens up a lot more possibilities than an N/A V6.
-Josh-
07-27-2005, 10:32 AM
Both cars around here are already being over run by shit head drivers. And the owners of both seem to think they've got super cars. At least that's the attitude most of them have around here...
TheStang00
07-27-2005, 11:29 AM
Both cars around here are already being over run by shit head drivers. And the owners of both seem to think they've got super cars. At least that's the attitude most of them have around here...
shit happens... maybe they'll all wreck or something
but on another note, im leavin for a week, later. might be comin back with another car tho. not to replace my mustang tho
shit happens... maybe they'll all wreck or something
but on another note, im leavin for a week, later. might be comin back with another car tho. not to replace my mustang tho
TypeS
07-27-2005, 11:30 AM
Both cars around here are already being over run by shit head drivers. And the owners of both seem to think they've got super cars. At least that's the attitude most of them have around here...
Blame it on "The new Mitsubishi Eclipse V6, it demands respect" commercial or whatever they say. People are taking it to a whole new level.
Seriously, who wants a Ferrari when you can have an Eclipse :uhoh:
Blame it on "The new Mitsubishi Eclipse V6, it demands respect" commercial or whatever they say. People are taking it to a whole new level.
Seriously, who wants a Ferrari when you can have an Eclipse :uhoh:
thecackster
07-27-2005, 11:35 AM
Blame it on "The new Mitsubishi Eclipse V6, it demands respect" commercial or whatever they say. People are taking it to a whole new level.
Seriously, who wants a Ferrari when you can have an Eclipse :uhoh:
Thats no shit. I like both cars, but I think there is only one GS-T in my whole town, all the rest are GS & RS and one 3rd Gen GT. But it's the ones with the low end models hot shoting around like they are gods???
Seriously, who wants a Ferrari when you can have an Eclipse :uhoh:
Thats no shit. I like both cars, but I think there is only one GS-T in my whole town, all the rest are GS & RS and one 3rd Gen GT. But it's the ones with the low end models hot shoting around like they are gods???
Drifty
07-27-2005, 11:46 AM
dude that i got a buddy with the new mustang, he changed the rims on it and it looks like the one straight out BULLETT the Steve McQueen Movie i would take the stang anyday over the new eclipse. my 2g looked so much better
turtlecrxsi
07-27-2005, 12:08 PM
I had a new Eclipse on my ass on the freeway. I thought it was a new G6 or Bonneville or whatever so I got out the way cuz those new Pontiacss are quick. Then I notice it was an eclipse and I almost barfed all over my nice dress clothes... fugly! Oh and it had a 60something year old guy driving it. He thought he was the shit, until he got behind traffic and didn't know what to do or how to handle a big fat 3500lb POS.
I'm not really too big on the new stangs, but I must say the GT owns. When I see dual pipes and a big fat GT emblem I think nice car. Personally though, I think the 2004 Saleen or Cobra (or whatever package it is) Mustang is the nicest, especially gunmetal/anthracite with matching bullet rims w/ polished lip...
I'm not really too big on the new stangs, but I must say the GT owns. When I see dual pipes and a big fat GT emblem I think nice car. Personally though, I think the 2004 Saleen or Cobra (or whatever package it is) Mustang is the nicest, especially gunmetal/anthracite with matching bullet rims w/ polished lip...
TheStang00
07-27-2005, 12:46 PM
I had a new Eclipse on my ass on the freeway. I thought it was a new G6 or Bonneville or whatever so I got out the way cuz those new Pontiacss are quick. Then I notice it was an eclipse and I almost barfed all over my nice dress clothes... fugly! Oh and it had a 60something year old guy driving it. He thought he was the shit, until he got behind traffic and didn't know what to do or how to handle a big fat 3500lb POS.
I'm not really too big on the new stangs, but I must say the GT owns. When I see dual pipes and a big fat GT emblem I think nice car. Personally though, I think the 2004 Saleen or Cobra (or whatever package it is) Mustang is the nicest, especially gunmetal/anthracite with matching bullet rims w/ polished lip...
wait till u see the 07 cobra... 465hp, 495tq
I'm not really too big on the new stangs, but I must say the GT owns. When I see dual pipes and a big fat GT emblem I think nice car. Personally though, I think the 2004 Saleen or Cobra (or whatever package it is) Mustang is the nicest, especially gunmetal/anthracite with matching bullet rims w/ polished lip...
wait till u see the 07 cobra... 465hp, 495tq
youngvr4
07-27-2005, 01:59 PM
I still think that buying a car that already has a turbo in it opens up a lot more possibilities than an N/A V6.
you got a good point.
but from my knowledge, this new eclipse is built turbo ready from the jump. meaning its got everything it needs, just slap a turbo on it and its ready.
we'll see what happens in a month or 2. cause if this is true(its turbo ready) a V6 turbo will be more of my liking then a 4cylinder turbo
you got a good point.
but from my knowledge, this new eclipse is built turbo ready from the jump. meaning its got everything it needs, just slap a turbo on it and its ready.
we'll see what happens in a month or 2. cause if this is true(its turbo ready) a V6 turbo will be more of my liking then a 4cylinder turbo
clawhammer
07-27-2005, 02:38 PM
you got a good point.
but from my knowledge, this new eclipse is built turbo ready from the jump. meaning its got everything it needs, just slap a turbo on it and its ready.
we'll see what happens in a month or 2. cause if this is true(its turbo ready) a V6 turbo will be more of my liking then a 4cylinder turbo
Yeah, should be intersting to see. Have there been any dyno numbers out yet?
but from my knowledge, this new eclipse is built turbo ready from the jump. meaning its got everything it needs, just slap a turbo on it and its ready.
we'll see what happens in a month or 2. cause if this is true(its turbo ready) a V6 turbo will be more of my liking then a 4cylinder turbo
Yeah, should be intersting to see. Have there been any dyno numbers out yet?
BlackGT2000
07-27-2005, 04:13 PM
I doubt its really turbo ready. Its not going to be any easier to add a turbo onto this car than any other car. At 260 hp on a 6 cylinder, its got to have pretty high compression. The motor wouldn't be having such high output now if it were already tuned to run with a turbo. Its just like saying that you could add a turbo to a N/A supra and have it as good as the turbo supra, its not going to happen.
clawhammer
07-27-2005, 05:00 PM
I doubt its really turbo ready. Its not going to be any easier to add a turbo onto this car than any other car. At 260 hp on a 6 cylinder, its got to have pretty high compression. The motor wouldn't be having such high output now if it were already tuned to run with a turbo. Its just like saying that you could add a turbo to a N/A supra and have it as good as the turbo supra, its not going to happen.
You can still add a turbo to a higher compression engine, it's just that you cannot run as high amount of boost as with a lower compression engine.
BTW that compression is 10.5:1, which is a bit high.
You can still add a turbo to a higher compression engine, it's just that you cannot run as high amount of boost as with a lower compression engine.
BTW that compression is 10.5:1, which is a bit high.
BlackGT2000
07-27-2005, 06:01 PM
I understand that it can be added to a high compression engine, but that dosn't make the engine turbo ready. Every motor would be turbo ready in that case.
TatII
07-27-2005, 06:24 PM
oh man i hated that commercial where it says " the new eclipse gt demands respect" the first car to bow down was a 3rd gen RX-7 TT. yeah right that freaking car will bow down to the eclipse. i almost started to hate the eclipse for that stupid ad. however i still like this eclipse alot. stock for stock, this is honestly the best eclipses hands down, and no one can deny its speed.
turtlecrxsi you think the pontiac G6's are fast? or the new v8 bonnevilles? or the super charged GTP comp G's are fast? the eclipse GT stock is faster then all of them. and can run with the LS1 powered GTO's. no body can deny a 100+ mph trap speed.
turtlecrxsi you think the pontiac G6's are fast? or the new v8 bonnevilles? or the super charged GTP comp G's are fast? the eclipse GT stock is faster then all of them. and can run with the LS1 powered GTO's. no body can deny a 100+ mph trap speed.
lamehonda
07-27-2005, 06:30 PM
Even with a turbo, the new eclipse is going to always have a major problem-FWD
clawhammer
07-28-2005, 08:36 AM
Even with a turbo, the new eclipse is going to always have a major problem-FWD
Does Mitsubishi have any plans for releasing an AWD version of the Eclipse?
Does Mitsubishi have any plans for releasing an AWD version of the Eclipse?
qr25sentra
07-28-2005, 11:23 AM
an awd twin turbo would be sick.. i would get one just to piss this kid off. :)
Sticky
07-28-2005, 12:57 PM
an awd twin turbo would be sick.. i would get one just to piss this kid off. :)
Maybe they could call it the eclipse vr4.
Maybe they could call it the eclipse vr4.
lamehonda
07-28-2005, 12:58 PM
I don't know if the will AWD it, i'm still trying to figure I why they didn't do it already. It probably would have murdered all EVO sales<not that that would matter to them.
Elk
07-29-2005, 03:51 AM
stock for stock, this is honestly the best eclipses hands down, and no one can deny its speed.
It’s the fastest, but it’s not hands down the best. It would have to be the fastest and the best handling to be hands down the best. I know the gen 2 and I think the gen 1 both outhandle it.
Mod for mod the gen 2 GSX it still the best Eclipse.
and can run with the LS1 powered GTO's
No it can’t. Eclipse (http://motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_0507_mitsu_eclipse/index4.html) GTO (http://motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_0312_gto/index4.html)
It can run with the Grand Prix GXP. (http://motortrend.com/roadtests/sedan/112_0506_grip/index8.html)
It’s the fastest, but it’s not hands down the best. It would have to be the fastest and the best handling to be hands down the best. I know the gen 2 and I think the gen 1 both outhandle it.
Mod for mod the gen 2 GSX it still the best Eclipse.
and can run with the LS1 powered GTO's
No it can’t. Eclipse (http://motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_0507_mitsu_eclipse/index4.html) GTO (http://motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_0312_gto/index4.html)
It can run with the Grand Prix GXP. (http://motortrend.com/roadtests/sedan/112_0506_grip/index8.html)
qr25sentra
07-29-2005, 12:28 PM
^ hell yea! :)
thecackster
07-29-2005, 01:11 PM
It’s the fastest, but it’s not hands down the best. It would have to be the fastest and the best handling to be hands down the best. I know the gen 2 and I think the gen 1 both outhandle it.
Mod for mod the gen 2 GSX it still the best Eclipse.
No it can’t. Eclipse (http://motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_0507_mitsu_eclipse/index4.html) GTO (http://motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_0312_gto/index4.html)
It can run with the Grand Prix GXP. (http://motortrend.com/roadtests/sedan/112_0506_grip/index8.html)
:iagree:
Mod for mod the gen 2 GSX it still the best Eclipse.
No it can’t. Eclipse (http://motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_0507_mitsu_eclipse/index4.html) GTO (http://motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_0312_gto/index4.html)
It can run with the Grand Prix GXP. (http://motortrend.com/roadtests/sedan/112_0506_grip/index8.html)
:iagree:
Sticky
07-29-2005, 02:26 PM
I've seen a GSX (obviously modded) run with a 450hp supercharged LS1. I actually wanted one for awhile but my dad said no cause Mitsu is having business troubles.
lamehonda
07-29-2005, 08:50 PM
Yeah, but a GSX isn't under warranty anymore anyway. <I don't know why anyone would want a non AWD eclipse.
TatII
07-29-2005, 10:10 PM
that is actually the fastest time and trap speed i ever saw for a ls1 gto.
Elk
07-29-2005, 11:42 PM
Well Inside Line’s test of the 04' GTO (http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FullTests/articleId=101578) showed a 5.5 sec 0-60 and a 14 sec 1/4 mile, but there test of the 06' Eclipse (http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FullTests/articleId=105582) showed a 6.8 sec 0-60 and a 14.9 1/4 mile.
The 04' GTO is a 3700 lbs 350 HP RWD car.
The 06' Eclipse is a 3500 lbs 260 HP FWD car.
There is no way the Eclipse can keep up. If the new Eclipse was light like 1 & 2 gen it would be neck and neck with the GTO, but Mitsubishi decided to build a tank.
The 04' GTO is a 3700 lbs 350 HP RWD car.
The 06' Eclipse is a 3500 lbs 260 HP FWD car.
There is no way the Eclipse can keep up. If the new Eclipse was light like 1 & 2 gen it would be neck and neck with the GTO, but Mitsubishi decided to build a tank.
qr25sentra
08-01-2005, 02:20 PM
im sorry but no way in hell the eclipse only runs a 14.9, try about a 14.2 at 103.
this kid is tellin everyone he hung with me while he was in 5th gear. at 40 mph that is complete bull shit..
he was in 4th and i was low rpms in 2 at about 3k ...then i pulled 2 cars at the top of my 2nd which is 65. sorry but this kid is gonna get slapped.
this kid is tellin everyone he hung with me while he was in 5th gear. at 40 mph that is complete bull shit..
he was in 4th and i was low rpms in 2 at about 3k ...then i pulled 2 cars at the top of my 2nd which is 65. sorry but this kid is gonna get slapped.
-Josh-
08-01-2005, 02:24 PM
Location location location...we've all seen them run different times at different places. So i think we can safely say that an 04 Goat will run between 13.5-14.0 depending on location and conditions and a new clipse will run between 14.2-14.7.... Now honestly, who cares unless you own either of these cars?
TypeS
08-01-2005, 03:02 PM
Location location location...we've all seen them run different times at different places. So i think we can safely say that an 04 Goat will run between 13.5-14.0 depending on location and conditions and a new clipse will run between 14.2-14.7.... Now honestly, who cares unless you own either of these cars?
:grinyes:
I agree. I wanna see an Eclipse trap 103 mph! The GTO makes about 40 whp more than an Eclipse does at the crank. There's no way a couple of hundred lbs will make up for that.
:grinyes:
I agree. I wanna see an Eclipse trap 103 mph! The GTO makes about 40 whp more than an Eclipse does at the crank. There's no way a couple of hundred lbs will make up for that.
qr25sentra
08-01-2005, 05:07 PM
the difference is FWD
TypeS
08-01-2005, 06:40 PM
the difference is FWD
The difference is almost 100 hp and 80 lb/ft of torque.
The difference is almost 100 hp and 80 lb/ft of torque.
qr25sentra
08-02-2005, 11:24 AM
well im just tellin u they trap 100+ stock. wait til u see one with a good driver at the track.
TheStang00
08-02-2005, 11:29 PM
those ls1 gtos arent that good... kinda bad actually, only 5.5 0-60. the new 05 mustangs beat the ls1 gtos, and arent far off the pace of the ls2 gtos.
TypeS
08-03-2005, 08:55 AM
those ls1 gtos arent that good... kinda bad actually, only 5.5 0-60. the new 05 mustangs beat the ls1 gtos, and arent far off the pace of the ls2 gtos.
I test drove an LS1 and the performance didn't impress me at all. However, the GTO is already faster to 60 than the Eclipse. After that, it will only keep on pulling.
I test drove an LS1 and the performance didn't impress me at all. However, the GTO is already faster to 60 than the Eclipse. After that, it will only keep on pulling.
King Of Crunk
08-03-2005, 04:25 PM
i have a question for the mustang owners out there....why do they always have the least horsepower out of the 100k and below domestic cars....the new ZO6 Corvette 500hp, Dodge Viper 500hp, Chrysler Crossfire SRT-8 425....i know they're trying to be more price friendly but when it comes to the cobra and stuff like that why don't they at least try to match everyone else?...
youngvr4
08-03-2005, 04:31 PM
they do and did, in 03 the cobra was a pure monster
able to run with the 99 vipers and c5 vettes it could eat up.
the next cobra and shelby will be right on there tails
able to run with the 99 vipers and c5 vettes it could eat up.
the next cobra and shelby will be right on there tails
BlackGT2000
08-03-2005, 04:32 PM
Well they did beat the crossfire the cobra will have over 450 I have heard 475 already. Its a mustang for crying out lould, a corvette is a sports car, a viper is a sports car, the crossfire is the only one that you can even buy a lower model for under 40000 and the mustang has more power.
King Of Crunk
08-03-2005, 04:35 PM
i guess i was more so referring to the 450hp gt500....i know 450hp is badass however the new Z06 and maybe the 2004 viper would eat it for lunch...
BlackGT2000
08-03-2005, 04:46 PM
Who cares, plus I am not certain that it would be "eaten for lunch" in a drag race. The last cobra had recorded times in the mid to upper 12s stock, now that was an old chassis, with a retrofitted IRS. The new one is a really solid design with a proper solid axel and an ass load or torque and more displacement with a better blower. We will wait and see but a 80000 dollar viper and a 75000 dollar vette you would think would be able to beat a car half its cost by more than a couple 10ths. Personally I think that if its beaten in a quartermile, it won't be much. Dollar for dollar you can't argue. Plus you know what a pulley and a computer chip could do for an 03 cobra, this one will only be better.
Mr. Luos
08-03-2005, 05:15 PM
The advantages to starting with the blower. :lol:
those ls1 gtos arent that good... kinda bad actually, only 5.5 0-60. the new 05 mustangs beat the ls1 gtos, and arent far off the pace of the ls2 gtos.
Are you kidding me??
The GTO is NOT meant to be a strip car. There have been fast ones, yes. But overall, it is meant to be more of a 'Gentlemen's Express.'
Nice ride, power, basicly plain.
5.5 to 60?? That is bad?? Wow.
those ls1 gtos arent that good... kinda bad actually, only 5.5 0-60. the new 05 mustangs beat the ls1 gtos, and arent far off the pace of the ls2 gtos.
Are you kidding me??
The GTO is NOT meant to be a strip car. There have been fast ones, yes. But overall, it is meant to be more of a 'Gentlemen's Express.'
Nice ride, power, basicly plain.
5.5 to 60?? That is bad?? Wow.
qr25sentra
08-03-2005, 06:56 PM
i rather buy something for half the price and barely get beat stock...
BlackGT2000
08-03-2005, 07:08 PM
Hey there aren't many people that have room to talk badly about an LS1 powered car period. Half the price is going to have a tough time breaking into 15s.
TheStang00
08-03-2005, 07:26 PM
i have a feeling that the new cobras will smoke a lot of cars, the numbers from ford are 465hp, 495tq. they may change, or maybe they already have, but thats the last i saw. and i think i read somewhere that the only difference between that motor and the 550hp ford gt motor is pulleys. and the base corvette has 400hp right. itll beat those and cost less. the z06 costs a butt load of money. you cant just say under100k. 25k and 80k is an extremely large difference. as is 40k and 80k. and as i was referring to earlier, the 300hp mustang is beating the 350hp gto. so hp isnt always everything. mr luos, wasnt saying 5.5 0-60 is bad, sure beats the hell outa my car. but i dont think its that great for the amount of power the car puts out.
TypeS
08-03-2005, 07:26 PM
Even if the new Cobra is in fact close to the C6 Z06 in straight line performance, the Z06 will be a track monster! You can't get a better car with the power and handling of a Z06 for that money.
BlackGT2000
08-03-2005, 07:27 PM
Agreed
TypeS
08-03-2005, 07:30 PM
Nurburgring lap times:
7:50 --- Lamborghini Murcielago (06/2002)
7:52 --- Gemballa Porsche 911 Le Mans (1995)
7:52 --- Lamborghini Gallardo E-Gear (12/2003)
7:52 --- Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren (06/2004)
7:54 --- Porsche GT3 (996) (2003)
7:55 --- Caterham R500 Superlight (2002)
7:56 --- Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale (02/2004)
7:56 --- Porsche 996 Turbo
7:56 --- Chevrolet Corvette C6 (tested by Dave Hill)
The base model is only 4 seconds slower than the SLR. Think about what the Z06 will do with a better suspension and 100 more hp.
7:50 --- Lamborghini Murcielago (06/2002)
7:52 --- Gemballa Porsche 911 Le Mans (1995)
7:52 --- Lamborghini Gallardo E-Gear (12/2003)
7:52 --- Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren (06/2004)
7:54 --- Porsche GT3 (996) (2003)
7:55 --- Caterham R500 Superlight (2002)
7:56 --- Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale (02/2004)
7:56 --- Porsche 996 Turbo
7:56 --- Chevrolet Corvette C6 (tested by Dave Hill)
The base model is only 4 seconds slower than the SLR. Think about what the Z06 will do with a better suspension and 100 more hp.
TheStang00
08-03-2005, 07:33 PM
agreed, thats another issue. thats where the price comes into play
TypeS
08-03-2005, 07:37 PM
http://www.z06vette.com/gallery/data/500/6135image.jpg
Actually this is the updated one list:
7:28-7:40 - Porsche Carrera GT with multiple attempts, different drivers and track conditions
7:40 - C6 Corvette Z06 <------
7:40 - Mercedes SLR
7:43 - 996 Porsche 911 GT3 RS
7:43.5 - Lamborghini Murcielago
7:44 - Pagani Zonda C12S
7:46 - 996 Porsche 911 GT2
7:50 - BMW M3 CSL
7:52 - Lamborghini Gallardo
7:56 - C5 Corvette Z06
7:56 - Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale
7:56 - 996 Porsche 911 Turbo
Actually this is the updated one list:
7:28-7:40 - Porsche Carrera GT with multiple attempts, different drivers and track conditions
7:40 - C6 Corvette Z06 <------
7:40 - Mercedes SLR
7:43 - 996 Porsche 911 GT3 RS
7:43.5 - Lamborghini Murcielago
7:44 - Pagani Zonda C12S
7:46 - 996 Porsche 911 GT2
7:50 - BMW M3 CSL
7:52 - Lamborghini Gallardo
7:56 - C5 Corvette Z06
7:56 - Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale
7:56 - 996 Porsche 911 Turbo
Mr. Luos
08-03-2005, 11:49 PM
mr luos, wasnt saying 5.5 0-60 is bad, sure beats the hell outa my car. but i dont think its that great for the amount of power the car puts out.
Low 13's in that big of a car.
Impressive in my book.
They aren't supposed to be racers. They are meant for mean cruisers.
Low 13's in that big of a car.
Impressive in my book.
They aren't supposed to be racers. They are meant for mean cruisers.
TypeS
08-04-2005, 09:32 AM
LS1s run low 13s stock? I've heard of LS2s running low 13s high 12s, but not LS1s. When I test drove it, it didn't seem like a low 13 second car at all. But I'd still take it over an F-body. I can live with being half a second slower in the 1/4 but having a decent interior instead.
qr25sentra
08-04-2005, 01:55 PM
i kno a boy with an 04 gto auto lost to an evo from a 25mph roll..
-Josh-
08-04-2005, 03:55 PM
What's your point?
2000LS1Z28
08-04-2005, 05:41 PM
Dunno what gives w/ all the hate for the new Eclipse. I believe safety standards have changed over the years, which is why it is soo heavy, kinda like the new Mustang GT. The new eclipse isn't too bad, i've seen them tested to a 14 sec. flat 1/4 mile. I hope they make an AWD version soon. The car is based on a family car platform, so any hopes of it being what it use to be are non existant. Besides, don't expect Mitsubishi to make a car faster then the Evo.
qr25sentra
08-04-2005, 06:06 PM
14 flat? i doubt it was on street tires.. i mean im not callin bs but i never heard of a maxima hittin 14 flat stock.
TheStang00
08-04-2005, 08:34 PM
04 mustang gts have done that on street tires, but not comon and its a rear drive car.
CassiesMan
08-05-2005, 12:12 AM
I hope they make an AWD version soon.
My understanding is that they wont with this model, and I dunno if they will again.
My understanding is that they wont with this model, and I dunno if they will again.
Mr. Luos
08-05-2005, 01:41 AM
LS1s run low 13s stock? I've heard of LS2s running low 13s high 12s, but not LS1s. When I test drove it, it didn't seem like a low 13 second car at all. But I'd still take it over an F-body. I can live with being half a second slower in the 1/4 but having a decent interior instead.
Depends on what car the motor is in. I was refering to the LS2 version.
LS1 GTO = Upper 13's, low 14's
LS2 GTO = Lower 13's
LS1 Corvette = Upper 12's, lower 13's
LS2 Corvette = Lower-mid 12's
LS1 F-Body = Lower-mid 13's
Depends on what car the motor is in. I was refering to the LS2 version.
LS1 GTO = Upper 13's, low 14's
LS2 GTO = Lower 13's
LS1 Corvette = Upper 12's, lower 13's
LS2 Corvette = Lower-mid 12's
LS1 F-Body = Lower-mid 13's
2000LS1Z28
08-05-2005, 03:04 AM
LS1 F-Body = Lower-mid 13's
I disagree with that assessment. I've seen several 98-00 Z28's tested to high 13's stock. Only a few of the LS1's were in the low 13's in the magazines. I mean it all depends on your track condtions. If you run at etown, at a relatively low temperature (60 degrees), and with great track prep, you'd probably see low 13's. That isn't all tracks though. My point is most LS1's run high to mid 13's.
I disagree with that assessment. I've seen several 98-00 Z28's tested to high 13's stock. Only a few of the LS1's were in the low 13's in the magazines. I mean it all depends on your track condtions. If you run at etown, at a relatively low temperature (60 degrees), and with great track prep, you'd probably see low 13's. That isn't all tracks though. My point is most LS1's run high to mid 13's.
Mr. Luos
08-05-2005, 12:01 PM
I have talked to 2 guys that have gotten into the 12's with their LS1 powered cars. Stock. I asked if they swapped tires or anything. They said they were on stock tires and stock paper air filter.
I think with a decent driver, any LS1 powered F-Body that hasn't been abused can run a low 13 stock. Of course, that does depend on the track. Anything over 2000 feet, or 90 degrees with affect that.
I think with a decent driver, any LS1 powered F-Body that hasn't been abused can run a low 13 stock. Of course, that does depend on the track. Anything over 2000 feet, or 90 degrees with affect that.
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