pro mod contest

Hey everyone I was wondering how many of you would be interested in a Drag racing contest?
Thanks,
DAVID

What classifies as a promod? Can you list a few examples? I have the long bodied '57 bel air...Is that a promod or funny car? And yes, I am interested.

Frank X.

I bet alot of people will say they are intrested... but in the end very few people follow thru.

Good luck with it.

Like Jesse said, many will be interested, but only a handfull will enter if your lucky. Many contests on here are not run well, usually ran by kids without the experience of how contests are run. There have been several contests in the past that fall through because of the lack of orginization or how to run a contest. The Le Mans contest is a good example of how a contest should be done. It was conducted in a mature behavior, reasonable deadline, and was very official.

I am trying to find out if a company will donate some parts for the winner and second place person but still not sure.... Hey Frank what I think a pro mod is a doorslammer thats low to the ground big motor turbo or blown big slicks heres a site, http://promodifieds.com/ thos are some sample shots but if you need to know more just ask yes your car could be a pro mod...

i replied to your pm. i hadn't made it this far to see the thread. I would probably try to encompass a wider audience than just pro-mod specific. possibly non-professional or mainstream builds. pro mod, door slammer, outlaw street. builds like that. anything based CLOSELY on a production bodied car. leaving out pro series cars such as anything mainstream NHRA/Powerade series. leaving more room for heavily scratchbuilt entries. give a sizable deadline. 3 or 4 months. it has taken me 2 so far on my mustang build. and it is still not done. problems are encountered with the companies providing a lot of the resin and detail parts needed to be acquired for such a build. I would definately require a progress thread. that helps in the end, to show the amount of work put into the build that is often times hidden by the body and other things. i would be more than happy to help organize and set this thing up. just let me know

Yea, I could be in on this, my nomad's paint got effed up anyways because I wasn't patient and didn't wait the full 24 hours. So, I have plenty I can do on it since I haven't really painted the bottom either. Get some guidelines up and work with somebody that has run a succesful comp before and let's get this thing started.

yes i have to agree with Mike and Jesse. but good luck.

Agreed. I too would be willing to participate in the contest if the rules were "opened up" a bit to include door slammers based on a production body. Especially if it's an older body style. I got a Mustang II just sitting here begging to be cut up... :) But I too would need a good 4-5 months to do such a project.

EDIT: and the reason why I say "open it up" btw, is because a true pro mod class car would require a lot of custom resin parts, like the big tall bird catchers they have, and all sorts of custom decals for "fake headlights" and all that stuff. I'd much rather build a 70s era pro stock or pro mod style car that's a tad more down to earth, that way I don't have to spend a fortune, y'know? :icon16:

there are some good thoughts and ideas being thrown around here. i would say anything strip worthy. something that includes door slammers,and fastest street car type builds. hopefully in the next week or so we can hash out the details, get some commitments from enough builders, and get some commitments from some resin companies. as far as prize im thinking slixx, competition resins, top end miniatures, and best resin. those are manufacturers that come to mind. maybe even a donation of a kit or two from some people on the board......didn't mean to take over dave. lol. just tryin to throw out some ideas, to help bulid a good solid foundation for a contest

Hey thanks everyone for the in put I appriciate it.

hey dave, hit me with an IM on yahoo. i forgot to press teh accept and add, i just hit accept

This is not a bad idea, although I haven't seen a bunch of interest in quarter mile stuff here. We are just finishing up the LeMans contest so if you'd like some help send me a pm. I managed to get us a few sponsors for the Lemans contest maybe I can help here.

I think there's enough drag racing interest here, it just kinda gets drowned out by all the "Drifting yo" :P

i've left a couple messages on the scale auto mag forum too, there are a few pro mod builds going on over there and i've mentioned we are trying to start up a contest

What are we talking about? :confused: What's a pro mod? What's a door slammer?

If requirements are big engine, turbos, and low to the ground, does a Ferrari F40 qualify? Skyline GT-R?

So, these are cars modified specificly for drag racing?

Anyone want to give some specific definitions?

a pro mod or doorslammer. is a car built solely for the drag strip. most americans are more familiar with 57 chevies, older mustangs and camaros and the like. they typically include a full tube frame, 500+ CID motors, blown, turbo or nitrous injected. big wings out back, wheelie bars, and parachutes....

Can we also have it so we don't have to go the full pro mod, but the lower levels of drag racing also, like just motor swaps and weight reduction? Or, are we going to go with full blown Pro Mods, with 6-packs, top hats, and jacket tails?

lol. i love the analogy. you gonna make it to the mcma meeting on july 10th?

More than likely not. I work every day except tuesdays and wednesdays usually. Also, what are the ranges on people that show up? I don't want to be the only teen there.

not real sure. this will be my first one. i think its mostly older guys. im 21. 22 on the 20th of july.

I'm only 24.... would be the first tournament for me too.

For what it's worth, since going specifically Pro Mod is a tad too exact, how about "a car built specifically for drag racing?" What I mean by that is, any door slammer drag car, as long as it's a race-only car and not a street car (or, like with Outlaw Street, street LEGAL but not exactly ever driven on the street)

Here, I'll toss up some specific examples of what I think should be "allowed" in the contest. I'll try to describe them roughly too:

PRO MOD - 5 and 6 second Pro Mods can run either a gasoline-burning engine with nitrous-oxide injection--up to 706 cu.-in.--or a supercharged, methanol-V8 no larger than 527 cubes. Output is around 2000hp.

Late model-style Pro Mod:

http://www.promodifieds.com/PMPhotos/CarlWitt/2003nats/HTML/134-3415_img_jpg_std.jpg

Old school-style Pro Mod:

http://www.promodifieds.com/PMPhotos/CarlWitt/2003nats/HTML/134-3406_img_jpg_std.jpg

IHRA PRO STOCK (I refuse to acknowledge NHRA Pro Stock because it's a joke) : 6-second Door slammers with production-based bodies, sort of the NASCAR of drag racing, exagerated but production-based nontheless. Nicknamed the "Mountain Motor" class, because they have to run naturally aspirated engines up to 816 cubic inches, 16:1 compression and regular race gasoline, no exotic fuels.

http://www.ihra.com/albums/album78/baker2_norwalk_e3.sized.jpg

http://www.ihra.com/albums/album78/bartunek2_norwalk_q4.sized.jpg

OLD SCHOOL PRO STOCK: Back when Pro Stock was really more "stock," in the 70s and 80s, the bodies were often completely production with minor modifications. In the 70s they evolved from factory frame to tube frame, with production-based engines.

http://www.autoimagery.com/8071.jpg

http://www.442.com/oldsmobilia/wjmodel.gif

SPORTSMAN CLASSES: I'll leave this wide open, since there's like 20 sportsman classes, suffice it to say it's taking a street car, ripping it apart, doesn't have to be tubbed but can be, and going drag racing. I think I like to include these in the contest because they wouldn't necessarily require any exotic parts like one-off blowers and custom wings and such. Again, just a few misc photos here for inspiration:

http://www.ihra.com/albums/album104/PIC_4951.jpg
http://www.ihra.com/albums/album104/PIC_4954.jpg
http://www.ihra.com/albums/album101/DSC_8211.jpg
http://www.ihra.com/albums/album101/DSC_8644.jpg
http://www.ihra.com/albums/album101/DSC_8711.jpg

Anyway, just my two cents. If we decide to go Pro Mod only I'm cool with that too. I just think a "doorslammer" contest would be more appropriate. :lol2:

I think we should go with all three of those. It gives a nice range of exploration and customization.

hmmm... i'm still a bit confused with this... i understand the cars that were posted a couple post up, but could i build one of those cars that have the engine and cockpit towards the back, and huge, thin, long noses up front? cuz that sounds pretty fun to scratchbuild.

Hey thanks tigeraid but there will be no rails allowed and no imports also it has to be 1/24 scale so it is even.

Hey thanks tigeraid but there will be no rails allowed and no imports also it has to be 1/24 scale so it is even.

Most of the cars that can be made into one of these three categories are actually 1/25 not 1/24. This area is dominated by Revell and AMT. I think it should be open to 1/24 and 1/25.

I noticed that you said no imports. Could we use a Civic body and modify it to be a RWD car? It is just an idea that I have been thinking about recently. This contest may give me the push I need to get it started. If not, I have plenty of domestic cars to mod.

i would say open it up to the FWD crowd. it will open the fan base and allow for more entries. keep in mind everyone that wants to enter wont make the deadline. i beleive tiger aid pretty well described what i was thinking to a "t". when i mentioned 1/24 i wasn't thinking that a lot of the AMT's are 1/25. bet as long as it is 1/24 or 1/25 its just about the same. i think we've got a pretty good foundation. now all we need to set is a deadline and get a thread written up with the rules/guidelines and a FIRM deadline. im thinking something along the lines of the beginning to middle of october. that gives roughly 4 months. i copmleted my almost completely built mustang in about 2 months. not sure if i will do something else for this or not. just have to wait and see

I'm ready to go, now lets get this thing up and running.

Not sure I agree on the no import things, you can make a wicked pro mod car out of some Toyota body on a tube frame with a nitrous'd Hemi :grinyes:

hopefully we can get the details hashed out in the next week or so. so start pencil whipping your ideas. if you are definately going to make a serious run for the deadline, let us know. i'd like to have an idea of how many entries there will be with the initial influx of builders.

ok, a quick update. i have secured perry's resin and top end miniatures as sponsers for this event. i am waiting on best resin, competition resins, and a/fx resin to respond. i hope to get LOTS of entries for this thing. the commitments thus far have been VERY nice, i will not disclose them at this time, but trust me on this.

Awesome, great news.... hope they can supply lotsa cool resin parts like blowers, injection and valve covers, that'd certainly help out the projects a bunch :)

Y'all need to make a post with the rules and just modify it to people have an idea of whats what.

Ok...heres my 2 pennies. I think it be cool to open it up to all drag race machines. We would have a much better turnout IMO. Better turn out might equal more sponsors. I also want to second what Mike said rules , judges and such need to be set early. Oh another thing...I think this needs to be in the motorsports section.

Well, I dunno, if we open it up to all drag machines you're right, it does give more people the chance to participate.... but let's face it, there's not much custom/personal work you can do to, say, a John Force Funny Car kit, or a Tony Schumacher dragster. Not only that, but that would open the contest up to import drag racers, so someone could take a Tamiya curbside Supra, and build an NIRA pro drag car out of it. But then how do you judge a mostly custom, curbside Tamiya Supra against, say, that Pro Stock Oldsmobile I have a pic of in my post?

But then again, this'd my first contest regardless, so I dunno how the rule side of things works out. Just my OTHER two cents :)

as soon as we have some set guidelines we will post an official thread. dave is going to be gone until first part of next week. so nothing will happen before then. I dont want to take over and run things when it was his idea. For judges i already have one lined up. Chris from Top End Miniatures. I would like a panel of "outside" judges. this will help to ensure that the "buddy" system wont be used. As far as classes. much like john said, most stuff for a top fuel or funny car is provided for you. however you can add all of the pe and braided details as we have seen with skylinefan's larry dixon rail. But the idea for the contest is based on the more sportsman type classes of the series. as for the imports. they will be allowed. If we get enough entries this is how it will be broken up.
category 1: ProMod (blown, or NOS)

category 2: Door slammers/ProStock (tub cars) (carb cars) this would cover super
stock
to Prostock, plus a lot of bracket cars.

category 3: Tuner (front, or rear wheel drive)

that is a generalization. now for a specific outline as i see it.

category 1: if you are unfamiliar with pro mods, go visit topendminiatures.com Chris's resin bodies are a prime example of what a pro mod looks like.

category 2: basically anything with a mostly stock body with a blower or scoop on the hood. full tube frame, full cage, and some big tires outback. this would include everything from pro stock cars to something like the 10.5 tire class. but dedicated drag races, nothing road worthy. as mentioned before fastest street car vehicles would fall under this class, they are essentially street legal, but never driven as such.

category 3: tuner. this includes anything import that is full race. Drnitrous civic is a prime example. I know EVERYONE has some sort of tuner vehicle laying around. if its a honda. gut the interior, throw a cage in it and a big turbo or blower or some insane N2O system and you've got an entry.

But the kicker like most contests on here, is we have to have enough entries to warrant breaking it all up. i guess i will let the cat out of the bag for awards. hopefully it will spark interest. The idea for the categories came from randy at perry's resin. He is putting up giftcertificates for the following amounts. winner of each individual class $50. overall winner gets a $100 gift certificate. Chris at Top End Miniatures is puting up one of his resin bodies and decal sheets. This goes to show that these two companies are class acts. I highly recommend both of them, as i have used their products, and the products and customer service is top notch. I have also contacted A/FX resin, competition resins, and best resin to see if i can get some goodies to go to the winners. so tell everyone you know and lets get some interest in this thing. visit other boards and send them our way. for right now, i would like to keep this in the main forum, as long as the mods will allow it. It will give everyone a chance to look and see what it is all about.

Hmm, well, good idea, initiative for a contest guys.

Although I have some reservations...

Drag racing is mainly an american sport, right, just like nascar is. And I believe it's only popular in some subcultures there and some parts only, so it's not even a very popular sport compared to indy and/or nascar, cart...

From a foreigner point of view, they are quite nice, but I think most of us don't get the fact that racing is just pushing the pedal at the right time and having the best car...

And from reading your posts , it only seems a very small minority is interested in this contest, but it's a good thing you decided to open it up with the tuners, yet again, drag racing is a small sub-species of tunercars.

I don't think many people will actually enter the contest tho, what do you guys think?
Don't you think some other form of competition will draw many entries?

olivier

you make a good point. but if one were to look at the drag racing build as a detail project, it is much more intrigueing. the options lef tto the builder are amazing. all of the braided line, and body mods, and pe accessories. once we get some rules hashed out, and get some commitments, we will see what happens

Olivier,

Drag racing mainly an American sport? It is only popular to certain subcultures and in only certain parts of the states? Pushing the pedal at the right time and having the best car wins? I must say that you have a wonderful sense of humor....

Chris.
TEM :lol: :lol:

If you need any help with the rules criteria for the Pro/Mods or if anyone has questions about the class, please feel free to contact me.

Chris.
TEM

edit: and yea... my build probably won't be superdetailed. just scratchbuilding and using whatever is around the house.

haha so yea... i still have no idea what's going on. i didn't get much sleep last night. i'm interested in entering just for fun, cuz i'm not a super model builder like some of you are here. but first i have to go find a kit that i like cuz i only have tuner cars and super cars right now. haha...

use one of the kits you already have. we are welcoming tuner cars as well. just make sure it is full race. lol. chris nice to see that you have made it to the board. welcome.

oh and remember guys its all in fun. the prizes are just to help make it worth the extra time and money we will all dump into them. i think i've got over 100 bucks in my mustang drag car. and might even pick up one of chris's bodies to do a pro mod build. if not for this contest, i might in the very near future. i've got ideas of a twin turbo ride in mind for this contest. keep in mind, im going to allow for multiple entries to try and raise the number of models we have

BTW....you should take a look at our contest. Web address is www.topendminiatures.com.

Later.

Chris

I was wondering how long it'd take before someone posts something lame like "Drag racing isn't popular" and "it's just pushing the gas" ... *sigh*.... amazing that such an ignorant and narrow-minded view still exists after damn-near SIXTY years of this organized sport.

It's huge in North America, ie. Canada and the States, with two huge sanctioning bodies (IHRA and NHRA) and many small ones (NMRA, NIRA, NMCA, Fun Ford, Super Chevy) that are consistent draws wherever they go, and cover everything from the top classes to the sportsman classes to the dude who just wants to run his car on saturday night. To say it's unpopular is an ignorant attitude. It's unpopular in Asia. That's about it. Even in Europe, and particularly in England, there's a rather large FIA European Drag Racing Championship (yes that's right, the FIA) following, and the stands seem to be packed for all their events.

As far as the unfortunately ignorant stance that it's just "stepping on the gas" well, you've never had any experience or knowledge of drag racing if you honestly believe this to be true. BUT this is a model contest, so it's not as if how you drive matters anyway, so why even bother bringing it up?

Wether you're a drag racing fan or not, this contest is a chance to show off your skill in building and detailing. Wether you're a fan of the cars or not, you can still build one, and still research it, and still make it look great.

*tigeraid gets off his soapbox.

I have to agree with bigfrit on this one. I am an American, and a car enthusiast. Of course I know what a '57 Chevy is, I dig old Mustangs, and I'm aware of drag racing- but I haven't ever heard of 'pro mod' before.

One of the really great things about this forum is the huge and diverse group of people here. I tend to think that the real joy about AF contests is not just the talent represented here, but the differences that people in this community bring to modeling. If you narrow your topic too much, you cut all of that off.

Is there much point in having a contest for a realtively obscure subject, only to have three people submit entries in the end? (I could demonstrate the obscurity of this subject on this forum, say, by pointing out the lack of a 'pro mod' meet.) This subject seems alot like a half a dozen Aussies AF'ers getting together an having a contest restricted to Holden V8's. They'd be welcome to do so (as you obviously are as well!)- but why?

If you open the scope a bit to include, perhaps, all straight line drag cars, it seems there might be more interest and more entries. I have to say, I think having one or two entries from the above mentioned European FIA drag series would be really cool to have included in a contest. Or would you suggest the handfull of European drag fans here have there own little contest, too?

Why make a contest smaller instead of larger? (Not afraid of a little competition, are you? :wink: )

tigeraid- I admire your attempt to explain a bit about pro mod/drag racing- but I think you'd get alot more milage out of it without resorting to namecalling first.

Now, as I asked before- won't someone explain what a 'doorslammer' is?

I have to agree with bigfrit on this one. I am an American, and a car enthusiast. Of course I know what a '57 Chevy is, I dig old Mustangs, and I'm aware of drag racing- but I haven't ever heard of 'pro mod' before.

One of the really great things about this forum is the huge and diverse group of people here. I tend to think that the real joy about AF contests is not just the talent represented here, but the differences that people in this community bring to modeling. If you narrow your topic too much, you cut all of that off.

Is there much point in having a contest for a realtively obscure subject, only to have three people submit entries in the end? (I could demonstrate the obscurity of this subject on this forum, say, by pointing out the lack of a 'pro mod' meet.) This subject seems alot like a half a dozen Aussies AF'ers getting together an having a contest restricted to Holden V8's. They'd be welcome to do so (as you obviously are as well!)- but why?

If you open the scope a bit to include, perhaps, all straight line drag cars, it seems there might be more interest and more entries. I have to say, I think having one or two entries from the above mentioned European FIA drag series would be really cool to have included in a contest. Or would you suggest the handfull of European drag fans here have there own little contest, too?

Why make a contest smaller instead of larger? (Not afraid of a little competition, are you? :wink: )

tigeraid- I admire your attempt to explain a bit about pro mod/drag racing- but I think you'd get alot more milage out of it without resorting to namecalling first.

Now, as I asked before- won't someone explain what a 'doorslammer' is?


I don't believe I referred to name calling. I called the POST lame, and I called the comments ignorant. I didn't call anyone a name.

As pointed out in my post and I believe white97ex mentioned directly, doorslammers are simply drag cars that still have functioning production-style bodies with opening doors, as opposed to "floppers," ie. funny cars, which have a one-piece body that flips up off the chassis.

As far as your comments, I think the general consensus here about how we wanna run the contest STATES that it's wide open. Import, domestic, whatever, as long as it's a doorslammer and is a drag-only car (ie. not a street car that drag races, and not a dragster (rail car)... "doorslammer and drag only" leaves it WIDE open, basically any car used for drag racing you can possibly think of as long as it has a production-based body. I think that's what we're intending to do, is it not?

A doorslammer is a race car that has doors that open and close. :wink:

This thread is getting tiresome.

To the contest organizers...let me know if want TEM's support.

Later.

Chris.

Agreed, let's just get it goin' already :P

Chris, i fully want your support. i will be sending you an e-mail shortly. MPWR. the original scope of the contest was VERY narrow, but if your read the whole thread, on of my posts yesterday listed 3 classes. 2 of which were fairly specific, and the third opens the contest up to ANYTHING strictly for the 1320. minus full blown rail or funny cars. if it has functioning doors, as far as im concerned, its in. when we list the rules, we will hopefully narrow it down enough for everyone to decide which category your car will fall into. as far as im concerned. you can take a morris mini, gut the interior, throw some kind of cage in it, put it on some slicks and do some motor work, and you've got an entry. by simply removing the full interior and putting slicks on the thing makes it a drag car. discussion like this is necessary, so everyone can see that it wont require a SUPER detailed build to enter the contest. if we dont have enough entries for a specific category, we will have to modify them but as it stands they are as follows in the previous post that i made. From here on out. this thread is to be used for announcing interest in the contest. i would like everyone interested to post up an "im in" and which category you are interested in, and also for discussion of rules, regulations, and recommendations for the contest. thank you.

Chris, if you would, give a little discussion on your view of a pro mod, since your business is built around them i think you know them better than all of us.....oh i love the new site design!

ok guys here are the sponsers on board so far.

www.topendminiatures.com
www.perrysresin.com

i recieved an e-mail from competition resins today and am awaiting a definate answer from them

i've left a couple messages on the scale auto mag forum too, there are a few pro mod builds going on over there and i've mentioned we are trying to start up a contest
hey folks, I'm new here first time and yes i am in on the drag car contest, however i do not have a pro mod car but rather an a/fx '66 nova to enter.

welcome tony. how is the a/fx stuff? i've been to the site, and they have been invited as a sponser. can't wait to see your build.....WOO HOO. our first official entry. lol. is it a built car or a current project? if you would let some of the guys over on the scale auto site about it. we have some really nice awards for top honors

I'm in with my '55 Nomad dragster currently being built. I guess it will be a Pro Street even though I've never scratch built a fram or interior, but hey, what better place or time to start?

Good evening gents,

Russell Butler has requested that I give a brief outline on what a Pro/Mod is. It is a rather lengthy subject but I will try to keep it as short as possible. A little history first. It all started during the mid-80s in Orangeburg, SC when a track promoter got a group of noteworthy individuals together to run an event. It was basically a run-what-ya-brung and hope-you-brung-enough heads-up race. The only real rule was that you had to use a car with doors that functioned. The IHRA heard how popular this event was and introduced a new class in the early 90s. This class was known as Pro/Sportsman. Not only did it include the door cars but it also included some RE dragsters and altereds. In the mid-90s the IHRA reclassified Pro/Sportsman to Pro/Modified. The class reverted back to its early days in that only door cars could compete. Now the NHRA has adopted the class but has yet to make it one of its main Pro classes. There are also several other Pro/Mod organizations (not afflilated with the IHRA or NHRA) in the states, Europe, and Australia. In Australia they are called Top/Doorslammers. Super Chevy has a similar class called Nitro/Coupe. The difference should be obvious.

Okay, so what is a Pro/Mod? A Pro/Mod (in the states) is basically a machine with a body that has functioning doors (some being highly modified from their original stock appearance). All must have a certified double-rail chassis with a F/C style driver's cage made of 4130 chrome-moly steel tubing and all safety features found on a professional type of drag racing machine; parachutes, fire-suppression, four wheel disc-brakes, 5-point driver's harness, transmission ballistic blanket, blower restraint, engine diaper. There are three types of engines configurations used by the IHRA teams; supercharged on methanol, normally aspirated using racing gas and nitrous oxide injection, and EFI using racing gas and nitrous oxide. In the NHRA there is a fourth type of engine; twin-turbo running racing gas but no nitrous. Engines normally used are the big-block Chevy, Rodeck 481 T/FX, and the HEMI. In all of the organizations, the teams may use a planetary type of transmission (Lenco being the most common) but the supercharged cars are limited to a three-speed while the nitrous cars may use a four-speed. No five-speeds allowed. All teams use either Goodyear or Hoosier T/F slicks and front tires. Rear-suspension can be either a four-link or swing-arm with coil-over shocks. Front suspension is normally struts with R&P steering.

Some notes to help those of you that are entering the contest. If you want your supercharged engine to be correct, it should have only one magneto and one fuel pump. A supercharged Pro/Mod is nothing more than a Top/Alcohol Dragster or Funny/Car engine. For those of you that plan to do a nitrous motor, all of those teams use split Holley Dominator carbs on a sheet-metal tunnel-ram intake. The nitrous system consists of three-stages for the IHRA cars and up to four in the NHRA. Some of the nitrous cars are set-up to use the nitrous system to actuate the air-shifting mechanism.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask. I have tons of photos of these cars, especially those of Charles Carpenter, Pat Dohtery, and Mitch Stott.

I hope this helped.

Nite all,
Chris.

that will be the official description of a pro mod for this contest. thank you chris. oh by the way i am russell butler for those who dont know. chris, do you happen to have any photos of twin turbo cars? if so will they be on that reference disk? thanks a lot. anyone else who can write up a detailed description of anything they feel is pertinent to the subject is welcome to do so.

These are IHRA regs.

Wheelbase: Minimum is 100" - Maximum is 115". Trucks (full-size) 140": S-10, Dakota, Ranger 125".

Front overhang (measured from the center of the front wheel to the front of the car) 43" unless factory OEM is longer.

Hood-scoop. May not exceed 13" above height of hood measured from base of hood-scoop.

Wheelie-bar length. Maximum 104" measured from center-line of rear-end housing to center of wheelie-bar wheel.

Minimum ground clearance: Front 3" and rear 12"

Later.
Chris.

Well, count me in with either my S-10 (In Progress) or the Pro-Mod Civic or a "Grander" National. I don't know which one yet.

Russell,

There aren't any photos on the disk of a twin turbo car but you might find the following link useful.

http://www.pbase.com/potsu/pro_mod_benz&page=all

Chris.