Damn Copers
Viper_Storm
06-26-2005, 09:55 AM
i got a story to beat all, about 8 months ago i was at a party, and this kid as running his mouth off at me, so me and my friends got my dads sawsall from home and cut the roof off of his crx :lol2:
ooo targa top crx!
ooo targa top crx!
88camaroproject
06-26-2005, 10:32 AM
Ha Ha Ha Holy Shit Did He Thank You. Thats Fukin Hilarious!
Earlsfat
06-26-2005, 12:47 PM
i don't want to make this a political discussion, just wanted to throw in that i am a huge fan of Bush
With you brother. I'd go just to shoot some really fucked up religious freaks that flew a plane or town into a couple of buildings in NY, (which killed a friend of mine), caused our economy to slip further into a recession, which allowed a bunch of pansies (namely every Democrat and liberal in the country) to blame Bush for their party's mistakes (Clinton, cutting defense spending, killing the CIA, increasing taxes, fucking up the schools, allowing emminent domain rules to be expanded to mean taking your house for no good reason...the list goes on), which in turn makes people like IROC, and my sister, think that everything that's wrong with the US happened overnight when Bush (2nd) took office.
I'd also probably shoot the entire UN membership for being a COMPLETE bunch of backstabbing pussies. Then I'd go to Iran, and North Korea, and kill all the religious / communists freaks there too, just for hating Americans for no logical reason. (I honestly think that the heat and dryness over there has those poeples' brains all messed up). You know, if it weren't for the innocent everyday joes other there, I'd nuke the whole damn continent, starting with France, the ungreatful pricks.
I'm not hostile or anything, I just HATE irrational people that try to influence my life, and think the world would be a MUCH better place without them breathing MY air.
With you brother. I'd go just to shoot some really fucked up religious freaks that flew a plane or town into a couple of buildings in NY, (which killed a friend of mine), caused our economy to slip further into a recession, which allowed a bunch of pansies (namely every Democrat and liberal in the country) to blame Bush for their party's mistakes (Clinton, cutting defense spending, killing the CIA, increasing taxes, fucking up the schools, allowing emminent domain rules to be expanded to mean taking your house for no good reason...the list goes on), which in turn makes people like IROC, and my sister, think that everything that's wrong with the US happened overnight when Bush (2nd) took office.
I'd also probably shoot the entire UN membership for being a COMPLETE bunch of backstabbing pussies. Then I'd go to Iran, and North Korea, and kill all the religious / communists freaks there too, just for hating Americans for no logical reason. (I honestly think that the heat and dryness over there has those poeples' brains all messed up). You know, if it weren't for the innocent everyday joes other there, I'd nuke the whole damn continent, starting with France, the ungreatful pricks.
I'm not hostile or anything, I just HATE irrational people that try to influence my life, and think the world would be a MUCH better place without them breathing MY air.
Earlsfat
06-26-2005, 12:49 PM
Oh... and then I'd do a burnout on them all, and then have them arrested for being in the way of a speeding maro. (Just to keep this car related/on topic).
Viper_Storm
06-26-2005, 05:55 PM
hmm, as far as going to war i donno if i would run to canada i dont know if i will go fight... earl you make good points but if you kill someone that the goverment didnt want you to kill.. someone that they dubbed as "inocent" then you will get court marshaled then you will end up doing years in a military prison with 1000s of ppl trained to kill. now if they told me they wouldnt put me in prison for any reason if i was helping them then hell would be unleashed. as inocent as the goverment was to try to call them they got kids doing recon if the kid is able to shoot at me or check out all my shit hes able to get shot.
I just HATE irrational religious freaks that try to influence my life, and think the world would be a MUCH better place without them breathing MY air.
not an exact quote but im with that
I just HATE irrational religious freaks that try to influence my life, and think the world would be a MUCH better place without them breathing MY air.
not an exact quote but im with that
drvngstorm05
06-26-2005, 07:08 PM
With you brother. I'd go just to shoot some really fucked up religious freaks that flew a plane or town into a couple of buildings in NY, (which killed a friend of mine), caused our economy to slip further into a recession, which allowed a bunch of pansies (namely every Democrat and liberal in the country) to blame Bush for their party's mistakes (Clinton, cutting defense spending, killing the CIA, increasing taxes, fucking up the schools, allowing emminent domain rules to be expanded to mean taking your house for no good reason...the list goes on), which in turn makes people like IROC, and my sister, think that everything that's wrong with the US happened overnight when Bush (2nd) took office.
I'd also probably shoot the entire UN membership for being a COMPLETE bunch of backstabbing pussies. Then I'd go to Iran, and North Korea, and kill all the religious / communists freaks there too, just for hating Americans for no logical reason. (I honestly think that the heat and dryness over there has those poeples' brains all messed up). You know, if it weren't for the innocent everyday joes other there, I'd nuke the whole damn continent, starting with France, the ungreatful pricks.
I'm not hostile or anything, I just HATE irrational people that try to influence my life, and think the world would be a MUCH better place without them breathing MY air.
Amen revrend
I'd also probably shoot the entire UN membership for being a COMPLETE bunch of backstabbing pussies. Then I'd go to Iran, and North Korea, and kill all the religious / communists freaks there too, just for hating Americans for no logical reason. (I honestly think that the heat and dryness over there has those poeples' brains all messed up). You know, if it weren't for the innocent everyday joes other there, I'd nuke the whole damn continent, starting with France, the ungreatful pricks.
I'm not hostile or anything, I just HATE irrational people that try to influence my life, and think the world would be a MUCH better place without them breathing MY air.
Amen revrend
Viper_Storm
06-26-2005, 08:39 PM
yo earl, where can i get one of those rotties?
Earlsfat
06-27-2005, 08:48 AM
...earl you make good points but if you kill someone that the goverment didnt want you to kill.. someone that they dubbed as "inocent" then you will get court marshaled then you will end up doing years in a military prison with 1000s of ppl trained to kill.
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yo earl, where can i get one of those rotties?
1. The 11th commandment states: "Thou Shalt Not Bring a Fucking Camera or Any Recording Device When It Could Come Back and Bite You in the Ass."
2. The 12th commandment states: "Thou Shalt Shoot Any Individual Breaking the 11th Commandment. (And then do a burnout on him)"
3. Earl... Dude, take him. He eats way too much, shits way too much, and flips out whenever there's an animal on tv, even commercials. Drives me NUTS.
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yo earl, where can i get one of those rotties?
1. The 11th commandment states: "Thou Shalt Not Bring a Fucking Camera or Any Recording Device When It Could Come Back and Bite You in the Ass."
2. The 12th commandment states: "Thou Shalt Shoot Any Individual Breaking the 11th Commandment. (And then do a burnout on him)"
3. Earl... Dude, take him. He eats way too much, shits way too much, and flips out whenever there's an animal on tv, even commercials. Drives me NUTS.
FireFox05
06-27-2005, 09:48 PM
Wow Earlsfat..... That's funny, but that about sums up a dog. Got a Dalmation myself.
Viper_Storm
06-27-2005, 10:25 PM
Earl... Dude, take him. He eats way too much, shits way too much, and flips out whenever there's an animal on tv, even commercials. Drives me NUTS.
i got a serious drug problem around here, drug dealers have taken over everything the use my portch as their 'base of operations' if you will, think if i set that dog on the portch and told him he could eat what ever he finds he might beable to help my problem?
i got a serious drug problem around here, drug dealers have taken over everything the use my portch as their 'base of operations' if you will, think if i set that dog on the portch and told him he could eat what ever he finds he might beable to help my problem?
Earlsfat
06-27-2005, 10:38 PM
I really hate to admit this... but Earl is racist and prejudiced. Don't wear a hat or baggy clothes around him unless he knows you and don't be anything slightly more than olive complected.
Earl is freakin nuts. My wife's friend (black lady lives across the street) made the mistake of walking in unannounced... left without her jacket and managed to get out before he could get to her face. I didn't train him, (you could tell that by how well he listens to "sit') but that son of a bitch can be MEAN.
Man if you have kids.... have them make friends with him, its easy but I don't tell just anyone how, and NO ONE will mess with your kids. He loves kids, don't EVER look at ones of his friends the wrong way... Whoooooboy!
Great watchdog and protector.
Earl is freakin nuts. My wife's friend (black lady lives across the street) made the mistake of walking in unannounced... left without her jacket and managed to get out before he could get to her face. I didn't train him, (you could tell that by how well he listens to "sit') but that son of a bitch can be MEAN.
Man if you have kids.... have them make friends with him, its easy but I don't tell just anyone how, and NO ONE will mess with your kids. He loves kids, don't EVER look at ones of his friends the wrong way... Whoooooboy!
Great watchdog and protector.
Earlsfat
06-27-2005, 10:40 PM
btw, the jackass has a fat deposit on his right eye, makes him look half blind.... Scary as shit if you're not used to it.
Viper_Storm
06-27-2005, 11:01 PM
I really hate to admit this... but Earl is racist and prejudiced. Don't wear a hat or baggy clothes around him unless he knows you and don't be anything slightly more than olive complected.
Earl is freakin nuts. My wife's friend (black lady lives across the street) made the mistake of walking in unannounced... left without her jacket and managed to get out before he could get to her face. I didn't train him, (you could tell that by how well he listens to "sit') but that son of a bitch can be MEAN.
Man if you have kids.... have them make friends with him, its easy but I don't tell just anyone how, and NO ONE will mess with your kids. He loves kids, don't EVER look at ones of his friends the wrong way... Whoooooboy!
Great watchdog and protector.
lol, a racist dog... lol, i bet i can become his friend in a few mins... 10 mins tops
Earl is freakin nuts. My wife's friend (black lady lives across the street) made the mistake of walking in unannounced... left without her jacket and managed to get out before he could get to her face. I didn't train him, (you could tell that by how well he listens to "sit') but that son of a bitch can be MEAN.
Man if you have kids.... have them make friends with him, its easy but I don't tell just anyone how, and NO ONE will mess with your kids. He loves kids, don't EVER look at ones of his friends the wrong way... Whoooooboy!
Great watchdog and protector.
lol, a racist dog... lol, i bet i can become his friend in a few mins... 10 mins tops
balls_to_the_wall
06-27-2005, 11:10 PM
BULLITS, BBQ AND BURNOUTS: THE AF MARO FORUM'S BI-ANNUAL STRESS RELIEF PROGRAM.
Can I come, and bring my Pistols????????....Pleaaaaase.
Oh and your previous discussion about shooting ability, not to try to toot my own horn, but 50 meters (yes, 50 meters) .22pistol, 5" groups average/good day. 50 feet, (are we talking 3-5 shot groups here?, if we are, then covering with a quarter, no problem)
Oh, I shoot pistol.....A Lot.
Later
-Ryan
*Also* If they bring back the draft, i have no problem of going.
Can I come, and bring my Pistols????????....Pleaaaaase.
Oh and your previous discussion about shooting ability, not to try to toot my own horn, but 50 meters (yes, 50 meters) .22pistol, 5" groups average/good day. 50 feet, (are we talking 3-5 shot groups here?, if we are, then covering with a quarter, no problem)
Oh, I shoot pistol.....A Lot.
Later
-Ryan
*Also* If they bring back the draft, i have no problem of going.
Earlsfat
06-27-2005, 11:13 PM
METERS???? What are you... European???? But you're more than welcome to attend our brewhaha. Shooting shit is funner than hell, ain't it?
Earlsfat
06-27-2005, 11:19 PM
lol, a racist dog... lol, i bet i can become his friend in a few mins... 10 mins tops
Oh it's not hard to be boys with Earl. But if he don't like you... you ain't got a snowball's chance in hell. And you won't realize it until it's almost too late, he goes for your throat / face. Went after my buddy (who's about 5'10") one time, and he has know him for a couple of years. Earl jumped up and lucky for my friend Earl lost his balance... got his hat instead of his face, WITH BOTH BACK FEET ON THE GROUND!
Oh it's not hard to be boys with Earl. But if he don't like you... you ain't got a snowball's chance in hell. And you won't realize it until it's almost too late, he goes for your throat / face. Went after my buddy (who's about 5'10") one time, and he has know him for a couple of years. Earl jumped up and lucky for my friend Earl lost his balance... got his hat instead of his face, WITH BOTH BACK FEET ON THE GROUND!
Rally Sport
06-28-2005, 02:53 AM
Whoa..sounds like a pissed off dog, what ya gotta do to make him not like you anyway?
Earlsfat
06-28-2005, 09:43 AM
You start off not being liked... you have to earn his friendship... scratch his ass (jkg)
FireFox05
06-28-2005, 10:18 AM
Dogs can be really picky about who they like, that's for sure. I used to have a mix dog, he was part Black Lab and part Akita (sp?) which is a lot like a Husky. He was big and very fierce looking, the UPS guy used to go up the neighbors drive and slide the packages under the car to me. Nuts I tell ya.
balls_to_the_wall
06-28-2005, 05:48 PM
Hell no I'm not european. Its what its measured in, that is the distance set by the International Rules (aka, what they shoot in the olympics) And also, for the record, Metric Sucks Ass.
FireFox05
06-28-2005, 09:58 PM
Agreed. Good shooting by the way.
89IROC&RS
06-29-2005, 01:32 PM
i agree, thats damn hot shooting especially with a .22, is it a match grade or something??? one of those bad ass custom jobs??
89IROC&RS
06-29-2005, 01:33 PM
oh and im opting not to respond to any of the posts about bush to avoid a major debate. to each his or her own, but be sure you are in possesion of the facts before you choose sides. tis all ill say in the matter.
Earlsfat
06-29-2005, 02:20 PM
oh and im opting not to respond to any of the posts about bush to avoid a major debate. to each his or her own, but be sure you are in possesion of the facts before you choose sides. tis all ill say in the matter.
Iroc!!! Brother... you need some fatherly advice on the whole Bush thing. Or maybe not. (Are you older than me??? If so it's Son-ly advice) But here's some anyway... So long as your facts are verbatim from the news media (CNN, CNBC, MSNBC, any of the big 3, etc) you should consider yourself NOT well informed.
Believe me, I have a sister that's worked at several of the major news organizations in Ohio, PA and NJ, the last thing you'll ever get is the honest, unslanted truth from these people. (An unbiased article is seldom written as it is viewed as bland.) Don't believe me... two words... Dan Rather.
Go ahead and listen to the media, but listen to and read both sides before you make that leap of faith.
Iroc!!! Brother... you need some fatherly advice on the whole Bush thing. Or maybe not. (Are you older than me??? If so it's Son-ly advice) But here's some anyway... So long as your facts are verbatim from the news media (CNN, CNBC, MSNBC, any of the big 3, etc) you should consider yourself NOT well informed.
Believe me, I have a sister that's worked at several of the major news organizations in Ohio, PA and NJ, the last thing you'll ever get is the honest, unslanted truth from these people. (An unbiased article is seldom written as it is viewed as bland.) Don't believe me... two words... Dan Rather.
Go ahead and listen to the media, but listen to and read both sides before you make that leap of faith.
89IROC&RS
06-29-2005, 03:06 PM
This is my last post on this matter, i apologize to everyone for making this political issue into on of our automotive threads as it is against AF policy, and i will ask that any other posts regarding this topic be made in a Private Message to the person involved. However i must reply to earlsfat's thread regarding where i get my views from.
In regard to my opinions on bush, i think you should be aware that i am as unbiased as they come. I am neither democrat or republican, i despize the two party system and feel its the worst thing for our nation, the politicians no longer represent their constituatnts, they represent their party, they no longer vote according to what is right, they vote according to what the party line is. and people no longer vote on politicians because of who they are, or what they stand for, they vote according to a little letter next to their name. it sickens me, and i wont be a part of it. Also, i wont watch the news, i agree that it is a tool of misinformation and negative imagry. in fact i did a paper on the impact of negative media imagry on the american crime rate over the past 100 years. when my parents watch the news, i ask them to change the channel, and get up and leave when they dont. i also have tried to get my parents to cancel our subscription to the newspaper because of it.
I am an intellectual and a strong willed free minded person. My opinion is based on facts that are not disputed by either side. it comes from research done at school among other intellectuals, and hearing both sides of the story. Our own troops dont support bush, the ones you see supporting him are blind idealsists who have been brainwashed into thinking that to question the president is to be a traitor and not a patriot. Or they have been ordered to support him in front of the cameras, i know this because i know people currently serving in Iraq who have told me. I follow no person blindly, especially not a meglomaniac (and yes, Bush has been "unofficially" diagnosed by multiple psycologists as an untreated alcoholic and a paranoid meglomaniac) i have several friends who work in politcs who have told me about Bush leaving a stage from a press conference cursing the reporters as peices of shit for questioning him, and daring to tell him hes wrong. we had no reason to go to Iraq, Bush lied to us to get us to go to war there. this is not a light matter to me. Clinton lied to us about getting head from a secretary, Bush lied to us about matters of war, and which one was impeached???? Bush has twisted patriotism from support for our country into an unquestioning mindless following of a single man (aka dictatorship), he ignored his advisors about war in the middle east and has gotten us into a bloody conflict that we cannot currently win, nor can we pull out of, and all because he had a personal agenda with Saddam and the oil over there. the war in afganistan was warranted, the war against terrorists was warranted, and that war i would have eagerly enlisted in, and in fact on 9-11 my friends had to hold me in a house for three days to keep me from enlisting to go to war, because i would have had to drop out of school to do it. Also durring the last presidential campaign, Kerry was campaigning for what he was going to do for the country, only 23% (est) of his ad campaign was targeted at making bush look bad, on the opposite side, bush spent 75% of his ad campaign to make kerry look bad, and alot of it was FALSE!!! but the people ate it up. Bush was more concerned with winning the election by making kerry look bad than actually focusing on what he was going to do as president. Bush is also under medication, because he is not right in the head, to him being president is like being captain of the football team.
Also regarding the economic problems, i guess youd like to blame clinton for the texas economy after bush left there? ideas like putting social security money into the stock market are bush's babies. not clinton. do i disagree with clintons downsizing the military, yes, but he is not responsible for the economic problems we are having, Bush is. And you say youd go to war the world over because they dont like or support us. when the entire world says what you are doing is wrong, usually that means something. and i wonder, do you have the ability to look at the big picture regarding that action??? its not 1945 anymore, we are not the worlds superpower, untouchable and able to stand on our own. we have allies that we engage in trade with, for the good of our economy, also what about reprisals? other countries now have ICMB's and nuclear weapons capable of reaching our shores . you are willing to sacrifice american soldiers in war, and american civilians in strikes against the country, because your throwing a temper tantrum that the world dosnt like us???? If your not with us, your against us huh?? that mentality is short signted and stupid. Strike back at those who wronged us, violently and without mercy, but end it there. to go to war with the world is the view if HITLER and those like him, (some would say Bush is included in that, myself among them) and would alienate us from the rest of the world. Both politically and economically.
I am speaking as an independant who almost failed government class in high school because i REFUSED to choose republican or democrat, i am a very intellegent (153 IQ if you care), and unbiased person who makes his desicions baised on available facts. I have reviewd the information regarding bush from before his first election, even then i felt he was bad for the country, and now i see him as an honest threat to it. I was praying for an assasination before he was sworn into office. and was deeply troubled by the excessivly long prayer given in which just about every person who was not christian was alientated and essencially called unamerican. I am an atheist, and was deeply offended by that prayer. My mothers family has been in america since the revolutionary war, if not before, and my fathers family came over in the early 1900's and left behind the old ways to become american, my grandfather fought in WWII my father fought in Vietnam, and i probly have members of my family in every war before those. I am Feircly proud to be an american, and i know what that flag stands for, i despise bush because i feel he is spitting on that meaning.
And what about bush's attempt to create a bill making it illegal for homosexuals to be married??? so hes a bigot, fair enough many people are, but that bill had no business in our government, our constitution clearly outlines a seperation of church and state, if the church wants to be closed minded, to discriminate against people, to be bigots, then let them, its not a government issue. And even if the bill was passed, no where in it did it make some sort of even playing feild, some way for two homosexuals who live together and are "married" for all intencive purposes to get the same benifits that a married couple would get in regard to taxes and such. So Bush has clearly shown he is willing to use his position to discriminate against those who have ideals, views, and lifestyles he does not agree with, this is not the action of a president of a country where ALL MEN AND WOMEN are created equal. and yes, i read the actual statment of all men are created equal to represent mankind, humanity, something far more ideal than a group of men sitting in an office.
I dont mean to fight with you, or insult you in any way, but in your support of bush, and your statements regarding going to war the world over because "they dont like us" sounds like ignorant, closed minded views that reek of the republican rhetoric of patriotism being the support of the president. The country is what i support, and it is far greater than any man. especially one as unworthy of praise as Bush is.
In regard to my opinions on bush, i think you should be aware that i am as unbiased as they come. I am neither democrat or republican, i despize the two party system and feel its the worst thing for our nation, the politicians no longer represent their constituatnts, they represent their party, they no longer vote according to what is right, they vote according to what the party line is. and people no longer vote on politicians because of who they are, or what they stand for, they vote according to a little letter next to their name. it sickens me, and i wont be a part of it. Also, i wont watch the news, i agree that it is a tool of misinformation and negative imagry. in fact i did a paper on the impact of negative media imagry on the american crime rate over the past 100 years. when my parents watch the news, i ask them to change the channel, and get up and leave when they dont. i also have tried to get my parents to cancel our subscription to the newspaper because of it.
I am an intellectual and a strong willed free minded person. My opinion is based on facts that are not disputed by either side. it comes from research done at school among other intellectuals, and hearing both sides of the story. Our own troops dont support bush, the ones you see supporting him are blind idealsists who have been brainwashed into thinking that to question the president is to be a traitor and not a patriot. Or they have been ordered to support him in front of the cameras, i know this because i know people currently serving in Iraq who have told me. I follow no person blindly, especially not a meglomaniac (and yes, Bush has been "unofficially" diagnosed by multiple psycologists as an untreated alcoholic and a paranoid meglomaniac) i have several friends who work in politcs who have told me about Bush leaving a stage from a press conference cursing the reporters as peices of shit for questioning him, and daring to tell him hes wrong. we had no reason to go to Iraq, Bush lied to us to get us to go to war there. this is not a light matter to me. Clinton lied to us about getting head from a secretary, Bush lied to us about matters of war, and which one was impeached???? Bush has twisted patriotism from support for our country into an unquestioning mindless following of a single man (aka dictatorship), he ignored his advisors about war in the middle east and has gotten us into a bloody conflict that we cannot currently win, nor can we pull out of, and all because he had a personal agenda with Saddam and the oil over there. the war in afganistan was warranted, the war against terrorists was warranted, and that war i would have eagerly enlisted in, and in fact on 9-11 my friends had to hold me in a house for three days to keep me from enlisting to go to war, because i would have had to drop out of school to do it. Also durring the last presidential campaign, Kerry was campaigning for what he was going to do for the country, only 23% (est) of his ad campaign was targeted at making bush look bad, on the opposite side, bush spent 75% of his ad campaign to make kerry look bad, and alot of it was FALSE!!! but the people ate it up. Bush was more concerned with winning the election by making kerry look bad than actually focusing on what he was going to do as president. Bush is also under medication, because he is not right in the head, to him being president is like being captain of the football team.
Also regarding the economic problems, i guess youd like to blame clinton for the texas economy after bush left there? ideas like putting social security money into the stock market are bush's babies. not clinton. do i disagree with clintons downsizing the military, yes, but he is not responsible for the economic problems we are having, Bush is. And you say youd go to war the world over because they dont like or support us. when the entire world says what you are doing is wrong, usually that means something. and i wonder, do you have the ability to look at the big picture regarding that action??? its not 1945 anymore, we are not the worlds superpower, untouchable and able to stand on our own. we have allies that we engage in trade with, for the good of our economy, also what about reprisals? other countries now have ICMB's and nuclear weapons capable of reaching our shores . you are willing to sacrifice american soldiers in war, and american civilians in strikes against the country, because your throwing a temper tantrum that the world dosnt like us???? If your not with us, your against us huh?? that mentality is short signted and stupid. Strike back at those who wronged us, violently and without mercy, but end it there. to go to war with the world is the view if HITLER and those like him, (some would say Bush is included in that, myself among them) and would alienate us from the rest of the world. Both politically and economically.
I am speaking as an independant who almost failed government class in high school because i REFUSED to choose republican or democrat, i am a very intellegent (153 IQ if you care), and unbiased person who makes his desicions baised on available facts. I have reviewd the information regarding bush from before his first election, even then i felt he was bad for the country, and now i see him as an honest threat to it. I was praying for an assasination before he was sworn into office. and was deeply troubled by the excessivly long prayer given in which just about every person who was not christian was alientated and essencially called unamerican. I am an atheist, and was deeply offended by that prayer. My mothers family has been in america since the revolutionary war, if not before, and my fathers family came over in the early 1900's and left behind the old ways to become american, my grandfather fought in WWII my father fought in Vietnam, and i probly have members of my family in every war before those. I am Feircly proud to be an american, and i know what that flag stands for, i despise bush because i feel he is spitting on that meaning.
And what about bush's attempt to create a bill making it illegal for homosexuals to be married??? so hes a bigot, fair enough many people are, but that bill had no business in our government, our constitution clearly outlines a seperation of church and state, if the church wants to be closed minded, to discriminate against people, to be bigots, then let them, its not a government issue. And even if the bill was passed, no where in it did it make some sort of even playing feild, some way for two homosexuals who live together and are "married" for all intencive purposes to get the same benifits that a married couple would get in regard to taxes and such. So Bush has clearly shown he is willing to use his position to discriminate against those who have ideals, views, and lifestyles he does not agree with, this is not the action of a president of a country where ALL MEN AND WOMEN are created equal. and yes, i read the actual statment of all men are created equal to represent mankind, humanity, something far more ideal than a group of men sitting in an office.
I dont mean to fight with you, or insult you in any way, but in your support of bush, and your statements regarding going to war the world over because "they dont like us" sounds like ignorant, closed minded views that reek of the republican rhetoric of patriotism being the support of the president. The country is what i support, and it is far greater than any man. especially one as unworthy of praise as Bush is.
Earlsfat
06-29-2005, 03:15 PM
Like, oh my good lord! ROFLMAO!!! How in the hell did you type all that in such a short amount of time???
I'll read that later, I'm in the middle of an audit, but man!!! Hey... I didn't mean to piss you off, it kinda sounded like you were saying everyone needs to listen to the media to me. My bad... Jesus CHRIST that was a whopper there.
I'll read that later, I'm in the middle of an audit, but man!!! Hey... I didn't mean to piss you off, it kinda sounded like you were saying everyone needs to listen to the media to me. My bad... Jesus CHRIST that was a whopper there.
89IROC&RS
06-29-2005, 03:18 PM
AIM, my one and only typing teacher :) when you talk to ten or so people at the same time, you learn to type reallllly fast :) but yeah, i dunno, guess its a bit of a sore subject for me.
balls_to_the_wall
06-29-2005, 10:38 PM
Well, the pistol is a Toz 35m Free Pistol. It is all factory, and yes if you find a price, they arent cheap. And if you are wondering and don't feel like looking, I don't mind telling you that it is 1k, along with my air pistol (Anschutz LP-@), I bought it new as well for 1k.
Yes, I did pay for the anschutz myself, and my parents did the Toz as a gift from my results at nationals. A damn nice gift that i am thankful of.
I train, alot. Every day basically, I am coming off a rotor cuff injury so the training is building back up to around 2-3hrs daily atleast 5 times a week(ideal time, reality of work gets in the ways somtimes). If you want pics of the pistols, you could google them, or if you want pics of My pistols and a kickass aluminium pistol case with flames painted on it. Reply back that you want to see them.
Later
-Ryan
Yes, I did pay for the anschutz myself, and my parents did the Toz as a gift from my results at nationals. A damn nice gift that i am thankful of.
I train, alot. Every day basically, I am coming off a rotor cuff injury so the training is building back up to around 2-3hrs daily atleast 5 times a week(ideal time, reality of work gets in the ways somtimes). If you want pics of the pistols, you could google them, or if you want pics of My pistols and a kickass aluminium pistol case with flames painted on it. Reply back that you want to see them.
Later
-Ryan
89IROC&RS
06-29-2005, 10:47 PM
id be happy to see a pic of em, normally i dog the .22 as im a .45 man myself, but ill give due respect to the accuracy of the competition models.
balls_to_the_wall
06-29-2005, 11:02 PM
I will try to get some pics taken tommorow hopefully.
Here is one of my cases (my air pistol resides in here). One of the guys I know through shooting did this case for me (free) hehe.
http://img274.echo.cx/img274/532/pistolcase210kf.th.jpg (http://img274.echo.cx/my.php?image=pistolcase210kf.jpg)
Here is one of my cases (my air pistol resides in here). One of the guys I know through shooting did this case for me (free) hehe.
http://img274.echo.cx/img274/532/pistolcase210kf.th.jpg (http://img274.echo.cx/my.php?image=pistolcase210kf.jpg)
89IROC&RS
06-29-2005, 11:06 PM
thats a pretty hot case, but its not a .177 pellet ;)
89camaroperson
06-30-2005, 01:54 PM
was anyone serious about the bullets and burnouts thing? that sounds pretty cool
Earlsfat
06-30-2005, 02:55 PM
I was kinda wishful thinking. You know a little get together, BBC, shoot a little, somebody show me how to do a burnout in my maro (it hooks up way too quick for me to do a good burnout)... after they show me how to fix my engine and trans, a little beer, etc.
Link85x
06-30-2005, 03:57 PM
We should make group called Guns n' Motors. Not bad.
Viper_Storm
06-30-2005, 04:22 PM
We should make group called Guns n' Motors. Not bad.
:iagree:
:iagree:
Rally Sport
06-30-2005, 04:28 PM
"And thus hooking this up correctly you can shoot 2 shotguns simultanously (sp?) from the ram air hood with the touch of a button, it renders the ram air hood usefull but you're not able to get the benefits of the hood completely what its suppost to do with your engine, but when there's a threat infront of your car, you'll be happy you done this" :)
Viper_Storm
06-30-2005, 04:34 PM
"And thus hooking this up correctly you can shoot 2 shotguns simultanously (sp?) from the ram air hood with the touch of a button, it renders the ram air hood usefull but you're not able to get the benefits of the hood completely what its suppost to do with your engine, but when there's a threat infront of your car, you'll be happy you done this" :)
lol, what does "(Sp?)" mean?
lol, what does "(Sp?)" mean?
Rally Sport
06-30-2005, 04:39 PM
(sp?) mean's is the spelling correct, right?
FireFox05
06-30-2005, 06:19 PM
He's making sure you know he's a dumbass and can't spell the word correctly, as opossed (sp?.... jk) to those who type the word wrong and don't mention it.
And DAMN those are some guns boy, you done good. And Iroc, I'm more of a 9mm guy myself.
And DAMN those are some guns boy, you done good. And Iroc, I'm more of a 9mm guy myself.
balls_to_the_wall
06-30-2005, 11:19 PM
Alright Yall. Heres some pics of my competitive shooting crap. Now keep in mind, this shooting is done ONE handed, none of this two hands on the pistol stuff.
This is a pic of my 2 pistols, ammo, and some targets I have shot, with quarters next to the group for size comparision.
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/1404/p10100017jn.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p10100017jn.jpg)
Heres a pic of my air pistol
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8463/p10100052xu.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p10100052xu.jpg)
Heres some pics of how exactly i hold the pistols, now don't laugh at the pics. I was holding with my right hand, taking pics with my left, it was confusing. :)
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6574/p10100064io.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p10100064io.jpg)
And here are some pics of some stuff I'm proud of. All the shiny things are from national matches last summer.
http://img285.imageshack.us/img285/5084/p10100131bd.th.jpg (http://img285.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p10100131bd.jpg)
http://img285.imageshack.us/img285/733/p10100183kf.th.jpg (http://img285.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p10100183kf.jpg)
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6028/p10100102lm.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p10100102lm.jpg)
Oh and those are 10 shots in each target.
And if you wanna know more, PM me or somethin.
Later
-Ryan
This is a pic of my 2 pistols, ammo, and some targets I have shot, with quarters next to the group for size comparision.
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/1404/p10100017jn.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p10100017jn.jpg)
Heres a pic of my air pistol
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8463/p10100052xu.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p10100052xu.jpg)
Heres some pics of how exactly i hold the pistols, now don't laugh at the pics. I was holding with my right hand, taking pics with my left, it was confusing. :)
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6574/p10100064io.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p10100064io.jpg)
And here are some pics of some stuff I'm proud of. All the shiny things are from national matches last summer.
http://img285.imageshack.us/img285/5084/p10100131bd.th.jpg (http://img285.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p10100131bd.jpg)
http://img285.imageshack.us/img285/733/p10100183kf.th.jpg (http://img285.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p10100183kf.jpg)
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6028/p10100102lm.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p10100102lm.jpg)
Oh and those are 10 shots in each target.
And if you wanna know more, PM me or somethin.
Later
-Ryan
Rally Sport
06-30-2005, 11:54 PM
I love the size of that target. Had to shoot something similar in ROTC.
cficare68
07-01-2005, 07:11 AM
Back when i lived in VA I was driving my friends Celica GTS and got stopped by a city cop on highway 460 in Bluefield doing 92 in a 55 and got off with a warning. Of course it helps when you went to high school with the cop the pulled you over.
Viper_Storm
07-01-2005, 07:19 AM
what is that wooden thing for on the handle that your hand slides into? is it help keep the gun straight when you shoot since you dont use 2 hands?
Earlsfat
07-01-2005, 09:08 AM
BTTW That anshultz is totally badass. Nice shooting. You could be the event coordinator for Guns & Motors' first annual retreat: Bullits & Burnouts.
instantkevin
07-01-2005, 10:50 AM
IROC,
I completely agree with your standpoint on american politics. I have similar opinions. I think the republican/democrat (or black and white) system should be done away with in favor of a more multifaceted system that has more than just two sides. I belive that too many people choose not to question the president's actions just because he is the president, the highest american figure of authority. When in reality there is so much doublespeak and alterior motives in what they do it will make your head spin. In addition, I strongly disagree with the president enforcing his religious beliefs on the rest of the country... he only does it because he feels he can get away with it because the majority is of the same religion. Nonetheless, there is no place for pushing religion on others in a government office. I'm not gay, but I believe that homosexual marriage should be legal. if you are going to promote equality, then you have to be consistent and not selective. It's just a matter of time anyway.... the president should know by now that no minority (or majority) group in the U.S. will be supressed... look at our history (women's rights, civil rights, etc.). If he wanted to remain neutral, he could have atleast called for a national vote to decide the outcome.
A long time ago I came to the conclusion that most American presidents are (at some point) liars and don't make decisions that will better the country as a whole. Until the american public forces more accountability on the part of government this won't change: accountability in terms of showing the public how their decisions will benefit them.
Anway....it was either guns or politics, and I'm not much of a gun enthusiast. But I do think that retractable side mount machine guns would look nice on my camaro.
I completely agree with your standpoint on american politics. I have similar opinions. I think the republican/democrat (or black and white) system should be done away with in favor of a more multifaceted system that has more than just two sides. I belive that too many people choose not to question the president's actions just because he is the president, the highest american figure of authority. When in reality there is so much doublespeak and alterior motives in what they do it will make your head spin. In addition, I strongly disagree with the president enforcing his religious beliefs on the rest of the country... he only does it because he feels he can get away with it because the majority is of the same religion. Nonetheless, there is no place for pushing religion on others in a government office. I'm not gay, but I believe that homosexual marriage should be legal. if you are going to promote equality, then you have to be consistent and not selective. It's just a matter of time anyway.... the president should know by now that no minority (or majority) group in the U.S. will be supressed... look at our history (women's rights, civil rights, etc.). If he wanted to remain neutral, he could have atleast called for a national vote to decide the outcome.
A long time ago I came to the conclusion that most American presidents are (at some point) liars and don't make decisions that will better the country as a whole. Until the american public forces more accountability on the part of government this won't change: accountability in terms of showing the public how their decisions will benefit them.
Anway....it was either guns or politics, and I'm not much of a gun enthusiast. But I do think that retractable side mount machine guns would look nice on my camaro.
Link85x
07-01-2005, 11:21 AM
Could you imagine what a camaro would do with a rail gun attach to the grille, holy s***!! Btw instantkevin, with those ZR1's do you have spacers? How does the car perform? Do spacers hurt performance?
Earlsfat
07-01-2005, 12:35 PM
You know IROC is right... this political bullshit doesn't really belong here, maybe we should start a political thread. This shit aggrivates me.
Really, I think it all comes down to money. And I trust no-one but me with my money. The rest is all bullshit that one nimrod or another wants you to believe so they can control you.
RE the Maro mounted guns... Maybe we could have an auto show at our anuual Bullits and Burnouts get together and have everyone show off their maro's hardware. Me.... if I didn't want to totally ruin my maro I'd a turret / cannon from an Abrams M1A1 tank on it. We could shoot imports with it at B&B.
Really, I think it all comes down to money. And I trust no-one but me with my money. The rest is all bullshit that one nimrod or another wants you to believe so they can control you.
RE the Maro mounted guns... Maybe we could have an auto show at our anuual Bullits and Burnouts get together and have everyone show off their maro's hardware. Me.... if I didn't want to totally ruin my maro I'd a turret / cannon from an Abrams M1A1 tank on it. We could shoot imports with it at B&B.
Sp3c1al ReG
07-01-2005, 12:42 PM
The talk about guns reminds me of a part of a stand up act i heard on Comedy Central this morning. This girl was talking about how her russian bf has to take the citizens test and she was quizzing him on the amendments. She asked him "whats the 2nd amendment?" he replied "the right to bare arms, the most important amendment." she replied,"really? what about the right to free speech?" he says" no need, you can say whatever you want when you have a gun."
i love it!
i love it!
89IROC&RS
07-01-2005, 01:11 PM
OK OK OK FOR THE LAST TIME, i apologize for bringing up politics here, its not where it belongs, so again if you have something political to say to someone do it in a PM. if it happens on here again, ill be forced to lock the thread, and ban anyone who starts up another one. including myself.
that being said, a railgun on a camaro wouldnt work out too well, the car would sink into the pavement, railguns are HEAVY!! all the capasiters, generators, coil windings, and the barrel thats designed to take the stresses of launching a projectile under those forces. personally ill stick with james bond style rockets mounted under my T-tops, the t-top swings up like gull wing doors, fires the rockets, and then comes back down. :)
that being said, a railgun on a camaro wouldnt work out too well, the car would sink into the pavement, railguns are HEAVY!! all the capasiters, generators, coil windings, and the barrel thats designed to take the stresses of launching a projectile under those forces. personally ill stick with james bond style rockets mounted under my T-tops, the t-top swings up like gull wing doors, fires the rockets, and then comes back down. :)
Viper_Storm
07-01-2005, 01:12 PM
Could you imagine what a camaro would do with a rail gun attach to the grille, holy s***!!
lol, maybe 989 Studios and team up with chevy and make Twisted Metal: Camaro Edtion... :D
lol, maybe 989 Studios and team up with chevy and make Twisted Metal: Camaro Edtion... :D
Earlsfat
07-01-2005, 01:16 PM
... personally ill stick with james bond style rockets mounted under my T-tops, the t-top swings up like gull wing doors, fires the rockets, and then comes back down. :)
Yeah but what if the rockets go off before the t-tops open??? :smokin:
Miniguns, two on top, one in the grille, and one on the rear deck lid, poiting backwards... just incase anyone is thinking about tailgating.
Yeah but what if the rockets go off before the t-tops open??? :smokin:
Miniguns, two on top, one in the grille, and one on the rear deck lid, poiting backwards... just incase anyone is thinking about tailgating.
89IROC&RS
07-01-2005, 01:30 PM
damn, tailgateing is my patented manuver ;)
and i didnt think about the problem with my rockets going off early. normally i dont have that problem :evillol:
and i didnt think about the problem with my rockets going off early. normally i dont have that problem :evillol:
Sp3c1al ReG
07-01-2005, 01:34 PM
i have a friend who was driving through DC once and some lady was pissing him off. He got of his car, punched her window out...said some words i cant repeat..and drove off.
I would have tommy guns coming out by the wheel wells, and rocket launchers out the door panels.then have a gatling (sp?) gun that comes through the sun roof (if i had one) that can be manned
I would have tommy guns coming out by the wheel wells, and rocket launchers out the door panels.then have a gatling (sp?) gun that comes through the sun roof (if i had one) that can be manned
Viper_Storm
07-01-2005, 01:39 PM
damn, tailgateing is my patented manuver ;)
and i didnt think about the problem with my rockets going off early. normally i dont have that problem :evillol:
lol
and i didnt think about the problem with my rockets going off early. normally i dont have that problem :evillol:
lol
Earlsfat
07-01-2005, 01:40 PM
I could always tie Earl to the hood and feed him some brussells sprouts!!!
Of course he'd probably shit on the windshield and since my windshield washer doesn't work the wipers would just smear it around... I think I'm gonna puke.
Of course he'd probably shit on the windshield and since my windshield washer doesn't work the wipers would just smear it around... I think I'm gonna puke.
89IROC&RS
07-01-2005, 01:45 PM
dude, you cant get rid of earl, we need the funny quotes he inspires :)
Viper_Storm
07-01-2005, 01:46 PM
I could always tie Earl to the hood and feed him some brussells sprouts!!!
Of course he'd probably shit on the windshield and since my windshield washer doesn't work the wipers would just smear it around... I think I'm gonna puke.
tie him to the trunk, you will smell his farts aswell
Of course he'd probably shit on the windshield and since my windshield washer doesn't work the wipers would just smear it around... I think I'm gonna puke.
tie him to the trunk, you will smell his farts aswell
Earlsfat
07-01-2005, 01:58 PM
dude, you cant get rid of earl, we need the funny quotes he inspires :)
He is pretty commical... unfortunately I pay an awful lot of money for that humor.
He is pretty commical... unfortunately I pay an awful lot of money for that humor.
89IROC&RS
07-01-2005, 02:28 PM
some people sink money into their car, you sink money into your dog lol
Viper_Storm
07-01-2005, 02:39 PM
some people sink money into their car, you sink money into your dog lol
yea becasue eventho he denys it / hides it, we all know he really love Earl
yea becasue eventho he denys it / hides it, we all know he really love Earl
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