U Can Go F**k Ur Self Fia!

I never liked Jean Todt, now i simply hate him.....so all u Ferrari love out there, still proud?

Damnit, I threw out the newspaper, but there was an article that explicitaly stated that the FIA refused to let Michelin ship in new tires, there was no compromise, they couldn't, period.

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=24922

more fuel for the fire.

Seems to be really evident that the Fia is behind these problems after all.

I never liked Jean Todt, now i simply hate him.....so all u Ferrari love out there, still proud?


oh please, blaming this on ferrai is simply lame. Its funny when anything bad happens in F1 all the ferrari haters start whining it was ferrari's fault. Seriously give it a few more weeks and we'll hear that it was Ferrari who shot JFK and faked the moon ladings. maybe they are all aliens :rolleyes:



http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=24922

more fuel for the fire.


so what? bridgestone brought the proper tires to the track, what were they suposed to do, bring the bad tires?

Damnit, I threw out the newspaper, but there was an article that explicitaly stated that the FIA refused to let Michelin ship in new tires, there was no compromise, they couldn't, period.


i belive that quote from BBC states clearly enough that Michelin were invited to bring in safe tires in exchange for penalties.

no one is really at fault.
michelin screwed up but rightly stood their ground.
the FIA was right to not change the track to suit (and hinder) some teams.
Ferrari was right to not go against the chicane idea for their own reasons.

everyone acted in their best interests which i think, they have every right to do considering that it is a competion.
of course, someone ends up paying for things like this and in this case, it's the fans there and MAYBE, in the long term, the sport itself.
but that's a very big maybe.

It must have been fun for the drivers I'd think, its more of a practice then race just for the number of cars out racing and everyone who raced got points lol.

im not saying Bridgestone was supposed to bring the bad tires. the thing is, they KNEW what tires to bring. Michelin did not, since they lacked the previous knowledge that Bridgestone had, so they did not know what to expect nor did they KNOW what the proper tire was. Bridgestone did, and that's an unfair advantage.

i'm not a Ferrari hater, but it IS a bit suspicious that Jean Todt was the only team principal to agree with the FIA, when they have a known history of being bed-mates when it comes to this sort of thing. everyone else was against it, and if you'd read Paul Stoddart's article you'd see that Ferrari was the only team that even wanted to race. Minardi and Jordan had an agreement to join all the Michelin teams, but Jordan reneged at the last moment, thinking of the fans. Minardi stayed in the race so they wouldn't lose any ground on Jordan, which is really the only team that they're competing with this year (for the back positions :lol:).


it would be interesting to see what would have happened had the situation been reversed. if Ferrari had been one of the teams using the faulty tires, then i can almost guarantee that some sort of adjustment would have READILY been agreed to by the FIA in order to meet Ferrari's demands.

im not saying Bridgestone was supposed to bring the bad tires. the thing is, they KNEW what tires to bring. Michelin did not, since they lacked the previous knowledge that Bridgestone had, so they did not know what to expect nor did they KNOW what the proper tire was. Bridgestone did, and that's an unfair advantage.

i'm not a Ferrari hater, but it IS a bit suspicious that Jean Todt was the only team principal to agree with the FIA, when they have a known history of being bed-mates when it comes to this sort of thing. everyone else was against it, and if you'd read Paul Stoddart's article you'd see that Ferrari was the only team that even wanted to race. Minardi and Jordan had an agreement to join all the Michelin teams, but Jordan reneged at the last moment, thinking of the fans. Minardi stayed in the race so they wouldn't lose any ground on Jordan, which is really the only team that they're competing with this year (for the back positions :lol:).


it would be interesting to see what would have happened had the situation been reversed. if Ferrari had been one of the teams using the faulty tires, then i can almost guarantee that some sort of adjustment would have READILY been agreed to by the FIA in order to meet Ferrari's demands.

agree, anyway i think its the end of the line for ferrari...next round renault and mclaren are back in michelin's home town.

its ok, once the FIA contract runs out, F1 will be an independant job and bernie eccelstone can make any change he wants and screw the FIA! I want to see the clutch back with more teams and etc etc like they proposed for 2007

Damn, I miss the old days of F1, back when Senna raced and slicks were allowed, the races where so much more interesting. Now FIA is ruining the sport, more and more people I know stopped watching F1, I joined those people after this.
And I agree on Le Mans, way more interesting.

...back when overtaking was allowed....

...back when overtaking was allowed....

I know I miss those days... now all the damn aero regs, Its like trying to go through an invisible wall..... :mad:

Only just found this thread. Bloody hell. This kind of thing has happened before and it will happen again. The end result was probably the best solution. Pissed off a lot of fans but any compromise would have been a bigger sham than the six car race that occured.

not really, the michelin team already agree to race for no point at all.

Just because the race wasn't for points wouldn't make the Michelin tyres any safer. Nor would it have made a hastily set up chicane any less a hazard.

I'm a huge McLaren fan and Kimi lost a pretty likely win in this affair, but realistically none of the various options presented could have pleased everyone. So Michelin had to bite the bullet and withdraw.

Now the big problem is still to come, namely if and how Max and his cohorts choose to punish Michelin and it's teams further.

oh well....with FIA helping ferrari i don't think kimi or alonso stand a chance....

With the nine team shooting themselves in the foot with testing restrictions and now the USGP, he FIA may not even need to step in and rescue Ferrari this time.
If they do impose a heavy punishment, it will make the GPWC just that much more of a possibility.

This 77+ reply thread is about crap tires? what the hell?

This 77+ reply thread is about crap tires? what the hell?
Hey now, I wouldn't whinge if your thread about getting ripped off reached 77 pages.



Hmmmmmmm........ Some bloke getting ripped off or a contraversial decision at the USGP, I wonder which one CNN would choose..........

Hmm...

Point take.