That f'ing 600+ hp evo finally lost!

http://www.penguinspeed.com/Videos/Fuel_Slut/SRvidz_evocamarocobra.wmv

:grinyes:

DAMNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!

That camaro is SICK!

nice loss. But, what do you expect from a trailer queen.

nice loss. But, what do you expect from a trailer queen.


Well, I wouldnt exactly call it a "queen" with how rough it looked. They probably trailered it in because it has a fuel cell and doesn't get good enough mpg to make it to the race without running out. Gotta love those big blocks :icon16:

Good race none the less. That evo is impressive, I'm just glad it finally went down to a Chevy :twak:

that camaro is awesom
so was that song, anyone got thwe name of it?

100th post

good ole american muscle.

HOLY SHIT... that camaro was bad ass... 300shot... no kidding..it did some damage.

I think if the Evo had a 100 shot he coulda kept with him... anyone think otherwise?

DAMNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!

That camaro is SICK!

:1:

Yippee!

Damn, thats all I got to say about that.

Wow, so the evo lost to a trailerd big block with mucho nitros and extreme cam among tons of other perfomance mods...im not even a bishi fan and id rather have the Evo.
granted the heavy chevy was impressive, but id want to drive something that can idle at a stop light and actually drive around town on a saturday night with out refuleing every 20 miles...

The evo takes the death but not in shame by anymeans... most vehicles on the road would loose to such a car built for drag in the straights.

HOLY SHIT... that camaro was bad ass... 300shot... no kidding..it did some damage.

I think if the Evo had a 100 shot he coulda kept with him... anyone think otherwise?

:smile:

I don't have any respect for a car that can only win with a 300 shot of nitrous. That's just ridiculous.

Respectable death, even in a dead straight line it didn't get walked that bad. Now they just have to start looking for something they can take that thing in the twisties...

Wow... I'm speechless. I've seen a lot of videos with that evo and I was just waiting for someone to step up and take it down. Finally. Either way, that was an awesome race. :tumbsup:

http://www.acurainspired.com/gallery/data/7d04bbbe5494ae9d2f5a76aa1c00fa2f/298_p38318.jpg
Explain.

What makes you think that EVO gets good gas mileage CB?


Edit: TypeS is pissed cause the EVO lost, so he's trying to say that "the evo woulda took em in the twisties..." Probably true, but i hope you dont think Fbodies can't handle.

You people are ridiculous.

When the Evo wins in the other threads its all comments like "omgzrorz what a bad azz evo,' but when the Evo gets his ass handed to him, everyones like "the evo needed NAWZZZ", "the camaro sucks without his 300 shot of nawzzzz", "the camaros a queen, I don't respect him."

This whole street racing forum is so import biased it's retarded. When many of you see the car you idolize get it's ass smoked, it's nothing but excuses. If the same scenario were to go down opposite, and a trailered EVO were to beat a street driven Camaro NO ONE would be making the same arguements; and you can save the "a trailered evo would be in the 8's" or whatever bullshiut arguements. I couldn't care less.

I am normally not a vocal person, but 1/2 of these posts are just stupid. They raced on the street, and the evo guy obviously wanted to race, and he obviously got his ass whipped. There are no excuses necessary as to why the evo lost, and the Camaro won. The race happened and we saw the outcome.

Take this post for what you will.

Rob

hahah no excuses at all. the guy who did the video didn't make any excuses either. anyway that is a sick video and i'm surprised to the the EVO repeatedly taking down cars with more power the its putting out. i think the evo is hiding something. but reguardless that was a bad ass car, and it lost to a worthy car.

the camaro needed nitrous...so what?

the evo didnt need a turbo?

I like how everyone views nitrous as some way of cheating or a cheap win, its just like any other mod.

run what you brung.

You people are ridiculous.

When the Evo wins in the other threads its all comments like "omgzrorz what a bad azz evo,' but when the Evo gets his ass handed to him, everyones like "the evo needed NAWZZZ", "the camaro sucks without his 300 shot of nawzzzz", "the camaros a queen, I don't respect him."

This whole street racing forum is so import biased it's retarded. When many of you see the car you idolize get it's ass smoked, it's nothing but excuses. If the same scenario were to go down opposite, and a trailered EVO were to beat a street driven Camaro NO ONE would be making the same arguements; and you can save the "a trailered evo would be in the 8's" or whatever bullshiut arguements. I couldn't care less.

I am normally not a vocal person, but 1/2 of these posts are just stupid. They raced on the street, and the evo guy obviously wanted to race, and he obviously got his ass whipped. There are no excuses necessary as to why the evo lost, and the Camaro won. The race happened and we saw the outcome.

Take this post for what you will.

Rob

Amen reverend!

I think that if the evo was faster it could have kept up. :lol:

Reading thru this post I thought you guys were talking about a bored out LT1 with a 300 shot. I was surprised to see it was a 67. Hell I was even more surprised the Camaro stopped in time to avoid hitting the traffic up ahead (drums suck!).

holy shit, that camaro's a beast!

and robs71nova, we only act like that because of the way the vids are. everytime it races he's like "nope sorry you cant win"

Nobody expects an evo to pull like that. i'm not sure why anyone would say that the camaro was cheating. its the street, anything goes.

You people are ridiculous.

When the Evo wins in the other threads its all comments like "omgzrorz what a bad azz evo,' but when the Evo gets his ass handed to him, everyones like "the evo needed NAWZZZ", "the camaro sucks without his 300 shot of nawzzzz", "the camaros a queen, I don't respect him."

This whole street racing forum is so import biased it's retarded. When many of you see the car you idolize get it's ass smoked, it's nothing but excuses. If the same scenario were to go down opposite, and a trailered EVO were to beat a street driven Camaro NO ONE would be making the same arguements; and you can save the "a trailered evo would be in the 8's" or whatever bullshiut arguements. I couldn't care less.

I am normally not a vocal person, but 1/2 of these posts are just stupid. They raced on the street, and the evo guy obviously wanted to race, and he obviously got his ass whipped. There are no excuses necessary as to why the evo lost, and the Camaro won. The race happened and we saw the outcome.

Take this post for what you will.

Rob
Very well put :smile:.

the camaro needed nitrous...so what?

the evo didnt need a turbo?

I like how everyone views nitrous as some way of cheating or a cheap win, its just like any other mod.

run what you brung.

heres a quote from somebodies sig............

bottles are for babies....real men get blown.

i say congrats to both the evo and the camaro... i mean jesus those are both very fast cars.

I'm glad to see some american muscle prevail though. Even though i drive an import, i still love the domestic. (i'm torn in this lifetime i guess)

I've watched the video so many times it's disquesting. Very amazing death.

1. I, for one, disagree with Robs71Nova. We say that its a bad ass EVO becuase, well, guess what. IT IS. People would be saying the same thing if it was a Camaro out there destroying everything it raced. Or an ///M3. I personally think this forum is biased against imports becuase 99% of the time, a post dealing with Asian imports racing turns into "Oh hes a ricer" or "Oh, you have slow cars so dont bother posting" type threads, unless it deals with a rather well respected and known member. I can actually remeber several times where domestic cars are seen as bad ass and well revered. Mr. Lous for example.

2. If you read any of the posts before you, a good amount of them deal with "wow, that camaro was bad ass." Yes, many commented on the fact that it is indeed a trailer queen, and that it is a purpose built race car, but they arent saying that with disrespect (most, at least). What people are saying is that A)The EVO is awesome because it took a purpose built race car to beat it, and B)That Camaro is one bad ass purpose built race car.

3. I love how half the videos on here turn into "NO THE SUPRA IS BETTER" "NO THE CAMARO IS BETTER" "NO THE EVO IS BETTER" "NO THE MUSTANG IS BETTER". If you ask me, its all a bunch of bullshit. Why? Becuase in reality, most of these guys probably know each other, and are good friends, and are sitting here and laughing at us trying to fight a E-penis match with cars none of us own. Why is it so hard for everyont to just accept the fact that a bad ass car is a bad ass car, regardless of who makes it or what country its from. For all the guys who think domestics kick ass and cant be beat, explain to me why I have an rather large amount of disk space on my computer dedicated to videos of rather powerfull Camaros/TAs/Vipers/Mustangs/Whatever getting walked on like nothing by Supras////M3s/Skylines/Whatever. And all you Imports are uber and unbeatable types, tell me why I have an equally large amount of space dedicated to ///M3/Supras/EVOs/Skylines/Whatever getting walked all over by Camaros/TAs/Mustangs/Vipers/Whatever? For all you no replacement for displacement nazis, tell me why I have god only knows how many videos of motorcycles with ony one liter of displacement, and cars with less than 3.2 litters totally owning 5.0 and bigger motors? And for all you Forced Induction/Great Power to weight ratio is the only way to live freako's, tell me why I have just as many videos of Motorcycles and uber powerfull 3.2 and less vehicles getting walked all over by large displacement motors? I understand we are all competitive here, after all, if we weren't, we wouldnt street race. But for the love of all that is Good and Holy, why can't we all just agree that a bad ass car is a bad ass car, regardless of how it handles, or what it runs in the 1/4, or weather or not its a purpose built race car, or who it was made by? I mean c'mon? Is it really that hard for you import only types to realize that this Camaro, regardless of how its built, is a bad ass car. And is it hard for you domestic only kinds to accept the fact that other countries produce just as equally bad ass cars? Sweet mother of Satan, why does it always have to turn into a cock fight over who makes better cars?

In conclusion (for you lazy bastards that didn't read this)...WHY CANT WE ALL JUST FRICKEN AGREE THAT EVERY BAD ASS CAR IS INDEED BAD ASS?!?!?!

OH-

Congrats to both the EVO driver for building such a bad ass EVO, and the Camaro driver for building such a bad ass Camaro. I would love to have either. Peace love and crabs, I'm outy.

Edit: TypeS is pissed cause the EVO lost, so he's trying to say that "the evo woulda took em in the twisties..." Probably true, but i hope you dont think Fbodies can't handle.

Ehh, typeS posted this thread. Do you see the smilies? Why would I be pissed? :grinno:

What I meant to say is, it takes that straight line monster that probably only sees the track to BARELY beat a daily driven EVO.

If you can't see the difference between those two cars, then I'm sorry.

Overall, I agree with Cassies. Props to the Camaro, but even bigger props to the daily driven EVO for keeping up with that thing like that.

And don't you ever play GT3? Gosh, don't you know how bad Camaros handle?








That last statement was a joke

bottles are for babies....real men get blown.
yep

this was posted on another forum i was at. if that camaro was boosted one way or another i would have respect for it. or if it was boosted with a shot of nitrous.

but just building up the engine and popping on the bottle... doesn't take that much time or ingenuity. besides that it looked like a piece of shit :)

Blah blah blah...look, the fact of the matter here is that yes, the Evo is a very nice street driven car. But, look what it took to get it there. You'd be crazy to think that thing cost less than $60,000 from buy to build. That's insane money. Do you know what can be done to a street driven '67 Camaro (or just about any 60's muscle car) for 60 grand? I'm sure you can figure it out. Now with that said, after this evo stomped all these amazing, high-tech machines, all it took was a rust bucket '67 Camaro with about $15,000 from buy to build to kick it's ass. And you know what...I can think of about 3 supras here in Az that are street driven that would make the 2 cars in this vid look slow. I may be a domestic guy, but I know a well built car when I see one. And none of you know if that Camaro is completely purpose built, it did in fact have a license plate, so it is possible the guy does cruise it on the street. Besides, I've seen street driven Supras and other 800+ hp imports trailered into the illegals just as this Camaro was. And what's all of the BS about no respect for shooting a 300 shot of N2O...PLEASE, you buncha fuckin babies, don't you realize you can't just throw a 300 shot on anything damned vehicle. You have to build the motor to handle that without grenading it. So before you go shooting your mouth off about having no respect for nitrous-using domestics, think of what kind of know how it took to harness that power.

Alright, I'm done now...continue the flame-wars...

1. I, for one, disagree with Robs71Nova. We say that its a bad ass EVO becuase, well, guess what. IT IS. People would be saying the same thing if it was a Camaro out there destroying everything it raced. Or an ///M3. I personally think this forum is biased against imports becuase 99% of the time, a post dealing with Asian imports racing turns into "Oh hes a ricer" or "Oh, you have slow cars so dont bother posting" type threads, unless it deals with a rather well respected and known member. I can actually remeber several times where domestic cars are seen as bad ass and well revered. Mr. Lous for example.

2. If you read any of the posts before you, a good amount of them deal with "wow, that camaro was bad ass." Yes, many commented on the fact that it is indeed a trailer queen, and that it is a purpose built race car, but they arent saying that with disrespect (most, at least). What people are saying is that A)The EVO is awesome because it took a purpose built race car to beat it, and B)That Camaro is one bad ass purpose built race car.

3. I love how half the videos on here turn into "NO THE SUPRA IS BETTER" "NO THE CAMARO IS BETTER" "NO THE EVO IS BETTER" "NO THE MUSTANG IS BETTER". If you ask me, its all a bunch of bullshit. Why? Becuase in reality, most of these guys probably know each other, and are good friends, and are sitting here and laughing at us trying to fight a E-penis match with cars none of us own. Why is it so hard for everyont to just accept the fact that a bad ass car is a bad ass car, regardless of who makes it or what country its from. For all the guys who think domestics kick ass and cant be beat, explain to me why I have an rather large amount of disk space on my computer dedicated to videos of rather powerfull Camaros/TAs/Vipers/Mustangs/Whatever getting walked on like nothing by Supras////M3s/Skylines/Whatever. And all you Imports are uber and unbeatable types, tell me why I have an equally large amount of space dedicated to ///M3/Supras/EVOs/Skylines/Whatever getting walked all over by Camaros/TAs/Mustangs/Vipers/Whatever? For all you no replacement for displacement nazis, tell me why I have god only knows how many videos of motorcycles with ony one liter of displacement, and cars with less than 3.2 litters totally owning 5.0 and bigger motors? And for all you Forced Induction/Great Power to weight ratio is the only way to live freako's, tell me why I have just as many videos of Motorcycles and uber powerfull 3.2 and less vehicles getting walked all over by large displacement motors? I understand we are all competitive here, after all, if we weren't, we wouldnt street race. But for the love of all that is Good and Holy, why can't we all just agree that a bad ass car is a bad ass car, regardless of how it handles, or what it runs in the 1/4, or weather or not its a purpose built race car, or who it was made by? I mean c'mon? Is it really that hard for you import only types to realize that this Camaro, regardless of how its built, is a bad ass car. And is it hard for you domestic only kinds to accept the fact that other countries produce just as equally bad ass cars? Sweet mother of Satan, why does it always have to turn into a cock fight over who makes better cars?

In conclusion (for you lazy bastards that didn't read this)...WHY CANT WE ALL JUST FRICKEN AGREE THAT EVERY BAD ASS CAR IS INDEED BAD ASS?!?!?!


just breathe, man....breathe....

rust bucket

:1:

yep

this was posted on another forum i was at. if that camaro was boosted one way or another i would have respect for it. or if it was boosted with a shot of nitrous.

but just building up the engine and popping on the bottle... doesn't take that much time or ingenuity. besides that it looked like a piece of shit :)

Everyone hates on nitrous because they are sadly misinformed and probably know jack shit about it.

you can think what you want but it works and has alot more into it than just putting a nozzle in an intake tube for the good setups.

:smokin: :smokin: :smokin: :smokin: :smokin: wow

Everyone hates on nitrous because they are sadly misinformed and probably know jack shit about it.

you can think what you want but it works and has alot more into it than just putting a nozzle in an intake tube for the good setups.

i do know that you are talking about a dry kit. And I know the amount of engine work it takes to use big shots of NaaAwZzz without worrying to much. We are talking about a complete fuel system upgrade along with a upgraded motor to help with the instant heat it creates. Did you hear that camaro idle? That was a race/drag/straight track ready muscle car. Good for it. I liked it too.


Personally I don't care which car won. I like the G's going at high speeds

Just because it came off a trailer doesn't mean it's not street driven. You don't know how far that guy had to travel to that race..and well..driving a mean ass car like that hundreds of miles just isn't gonna happen.

i do know that you are talking about a dry kit. And I know the amount of engine work it takes to use big shots of NaaAwZzz without worrying to much. We are talking about a complete fuel system upgrade along with a upgraded motor to help with the instant heat it creates. Did you hear that camaro idle? That was a race/drag/straight track ready muscle car. Good for it. I liked it too.


Where do you live?? You've never encountered a cam'd car on the streets I guess? I've seen/heard cars on the street here just as lopey as that one. We have a low 9 second street driven LS1 Z28 here.

yep

this was posted on another forum i was at. if that camaro was boosted one way or another i would have respect for it. or if it was boosted with a shot of nitrous.

but just building up the engine and popping on the bottle... doesn't take that much time or ingenuity. besides that it looked like a piece of shit :)

bottles are for babies? no, whining about someone using nitrous is for babies. Go take your turbo off and see how fast you are.

Just because it came off a trailer doesn't mean it's not street driven. You don't know how far that guy had to travel to that race..and well..driving a mean ass car like that hundreds of miles just isn't gonna happen.

yeah i know...that......i wasn't saying it wasn't street driven. I said it was "race/drag/straight track ready"

Just because it came off a trailer doesn't mean it's not street driven. You don't know how far that guy had to travel to that race..and well..driving a mean ass car like that hundreds of miles just isn't gonna happen.

Why not? They manage to do it for the Cannonball run and those other long ass rallys. Makes the guy sound like a pussy. And please, for the love of god, stop being your standard m.o. DHWM and end the post whoring.

Why not? They manage to do it for the Cannonball run and those other long ass rallys. Makes the guy sound like a pussy. And please, for the love of god, stop being your standard m.o. DHWM and end the post whoring.

Think about the mischief videos. How many of those cars were 60s muscle cars with 400+ cubes? And how many were fine tuned $100,000 european sports cars? You think that makes that guy sound like a pussy? Wow..saying that makes you sound like a dumbass. I replied to several different quotes..I don't know how to put 59u9345 quotes in one post.

Its called the edit button, or how about read the directions to how to make vBoards work. Takes about two minutes, and it makes you look randomly intelligent. Of course, then again, you are a Mustang owner, and so far, my time dealing with Mustang owners leaves me to think that 99.99% of them are on par with the intelligence of whatever I just poured clorine in my pool to kill.

Oh, and about the cannonball/players run/gumball:

Dado's ///M3 is tubbed out. Most of the Porsches are as well. In fact most of the cars in that race have been turned into near track cars. Those AMGs, Ferraris, and Lambos you see are the minority. I'm not talking about the mischief DVDs, I'm saying go look at the stock, uncut footage on the race. The parts where they arent showing the Enzo Ferraris. Watch that part of the film, and tell me how comfortable it looks to ride cross country in some of those cars.

If this guy cant handle driving his car more than 100 miles with out trailering it, then I say hes being a pussy. Dont build the car if you can't handle it. I'm out before I get banned, peace.

Oh my god children, quit bickering. They both are badass cars, End of story.

Oh and :repost:

wow I see a nice vid and am reminded why I don't post here much anymore.

I dont see a problem with the "bickering", what would this forum be without it? A boring place that's what.

What's so great about a forum without discussion and debate and where everyone agrees with everything another member says?

Its called the edit button, or how about read the directions to how to make vBoards work. Takes about two minutes, and it makes you look randomly intelligent. Of course, then again, you are a Mustang owner, and so far, my time dealing with Mustang owners leaves me to think that 99.99% of them are on par with the intelligence of whatever I just poured clorine in my pool to kill.

Oh, and about the cannonball/players run/gumball:

Dado's ///M3 is tubbed out. Most of the Porsches are as well. In fact most of the cars in that race have been turned into near track cars. Those AMGs, Ferraris, and Lambos you see are the minority. I'm not talking about the mischief DVDs, I'm saying go look at the stock, uncut footage on the race. The parts where they arent showing the Enzo Ferraris. Watch that part of the film, and tell me how comfortable it looks to ride cross country in some of those cars.

If this guy cant handle driving his car more than 100 miles with out trailering it, then I say hes being a pussy. Dont build the car if you can't handle it. I'm out before I get banned, peace.

You're stupid. That's all. You wouldn't know anything about fast cars..your car runs what..16s?

He's a little over a half a second away from your 1/4 time bud.

He's a little over a half a second away from your 1/4 time bud.


I don't think so. You guys didn't get to enter my contest. And he runs 15s flat?

Why is it that when ever two cars are compared, all these other cars start coming up into the conversation. The worst is when someone says japanese cars are slow and than someone brings up the skyline. Why even bring that up. I haven't ever seen a skyline, most people haven't and if you have it happens very infrequently. Its equally irritating when people bring up the enzo, carerra GT, Ford GT, MclarenF1, or any other supercar/racecar to back up their opinion when it comes to street racing. And don't bring up the cannonball run unless you have been on it because its just as bad as quoting a magazine in my opinion.
So when it comes to this video about a camaro vs. and evo drag racing, yes the camaro is a faster car in a drag race. Why even speculate on other things the car can do. Do you want to see a video of a camaro with a 300 shot driving around all day, picking up the kids and running erands? Didnt think so. So who gives a shit about what else these cars can do? You don't own them and you aren't driving either of them around as a daily driver.

all it took was a rust bucket '67 Camaro with about $15,000 from buy to build to kick it's ass.

Yep.

besides that it looked like a piece of shit
Too much hate here! "And the 67 camaro looks waaaaay better than a cereal box car."(there are two sides to every coin)
BUT THAT IS FOR ANOTHER THREAD ON ANOTHER FORUM.

Do you want to see a video of a camaro with a 300 shot driving around all day, picking up the kids and running erands? Didnt think so.

LOLOLOLOL
:grinyes:

Blah blah blah...look, the fact of the matter here is that yes, the Evo is a very nice street driven car. But, look what it took to get it there. You'd be crazy to think that thing cost less than $60,000 from buy to build. That's insane money. Do you know what can be done to a street driven '67 Camaro (or just about any 60's muscle car) for 60 grand? I'm sure you can figure it out. Now with that said, after this evo stomped all these amazing, high-tech machines, all it took was a rust bucket '67 Camaro with about $15,000 from buy to build to kick it's ass. And you know what...I can think of about 3 supras here in Az that are street driven that would make the 2 cars in this vid look slow. I may be a domestic guy, but I know a well built car when I see one. And none of you know if that Camaro is completely purpose built, it did in fact have a license plate, so it is possible the guy does cruise it on the street. Besides, I've seen street driven Supras and other 800+ hp imports trailered into the illegals just as this Camaro was. And what's all of the BS about no respect for shooting a 300 shot of N2O...PLEASE, you buncha fuckin babies, don't you realize you can't just throw a 300 shot on anything damned vehicle. You have to build the motor to handle that without grenading it. So before you go shooting your mouth off about having no respect for nitrous-using domestics, think of what kind of know how it took to harness that power.

Alright, I'm done now...continue the flame-wars...

This Guy Cracks Me Up...Everytime there is a fast as hell Import/4 cylender they are like "Man with like half that money you can get so much faster with an old (insert year previous to 1972) Chevy/Ford/Mopar... The Fact Remains is... NO, YOU CANT. I have done this before, The original engin in a '67 Comaro is in no condition to be blown or handle a 300 shot of nitros. The engine alone in that Chevy was probably OVER 15k for Block, machien work (if done), Ballenced Crank, 4 bolt mains, Cams, Intake manifold, Distributor, Ignition, Heads, Valves/springs/rockers/push rods, Carburator...There are more but i will quit there. Then comes the Auto transmission that can handle that power and the high stall torque converter. Rear end and driver shaft...your everyday rear end will brake like your teeth to my baseball bat when 6,7,8,900 HP are applied to it full tilt. often the chassis is strengthened when you ahve that sort of power, 4link or lader bar suspension in the rear to keep it going straight when it gets on it and the rear end starts torqueing.

Plus, that rust bucket isnt going down the road with no floor boards, they are often resotred to working condition unless your are a back woods no class overly right-wing redneck (no political debates please, but that is what a lot of the musle mania people who start this arguement are)

Now if you would like to add up all of that to see what sort of price you get...go ahead. Then you have a nitros system that can supply enough nitros for 300 extra HP and then you have to have a fule system to keep up with a booty load of HP as well.

Once agian, The comaro is an amazing car but it is specific built, the Evo did not take that in shame, AT ALL.

If you would like to add up what it takes to make an alread 300+ HP vehicle 600HP then go ahead, yes it cost a LOT of money. but newer engines dont need replacing, only some work to make them handle the power :biggrin: . all in all i have proven time and itme agian, if you do both right, they cost about the same, some times one is cheaper than the other. im notsaying an 89 civic can be made as fast as a 67 chevy because it cant, you can get them both for around the same price (both in semi-decent working condition) and the comaro is al ready faster. but take a modern day sport compace already built for high performance it comes out to be the same. one that is freshest in my mind is a 2nd Gen RX-7 v a 57' Bel Air. both with an engine swap (Bel air to a 454 crate and the 7 to a 3rd gen Turbo II) and then perofmrance mods where done, in the end to get the Power/ Weight ratios around 8:1 it cost around 30k for both. but that included suspension modifications as well.

As for whoever said "what makes you think the Evo had good gas mileage"
I didnt say it did, but boost can be cut back which mean fule consumption can be cut back...also, the evo probably has a larger tank since, as already stated, the Chevy probably has a fule cell ment for drag racing.

But all of this Rive V. Domestic BS needs to stop... it should be permanetly banned from this board for ever.

But all of this Rive V. Domestic BS needs to stop... it should be permanetly banned from this board for ever.

Why? it gives us something to talk about....otherwise we hear about slow stock cars taking out slower stock cars....shit gets boring. :2cents:

na screw the twisties as every vid has been a straight line. Good win to the v8... though it took how many till they had to call some guy with a traillered BUILT chevy that you really cant drive anywhere?

Seriously though I consider that some serious respect when this guy has raced a multitude of heavy modified v8's that the only car to beat the evo.. which races WORST at a roll..... is some old school NICE built v8 WITH N2O.

Blah blah blah...look, the fact of the matter here is that yes, the Evo is a very nice street driven car. But, look what it took to get it there. You'd be crazy to think that thing cost less than $60,000 from buy to build. That's insane money. Do you know what can be done to a street driven '67 Camaro (or just about any 60's muscle car) for 60 grand? I'm sure you can figure it out. Now with that said, after this evo stomped all these amazing, high-tech machines, all it took was a rust bucket '67 Camaro with about $15,000 from buy to build to kick it's ass. And you know what...I can think of about 3 supras here in Az that are street driven that would make the 2 cars in this vid look slow. I may be a domestic guy, but I know a well built car when I see one. And none of you know if that Camaro is completely purpose built, it did in fact have a license plate, so it is possible the guy does cruise it on the street. Besides, I've seen street driven Supras and other 800+ hp imports trailered into the illegals just as this Camaro was. And what's all of the BS about no respect for shooting a 300 shot of N2O...PLEASE, you buncha fuckin babies, don't you realize you can't just throw a 300 shot on anything damned vehicle. You have to build the motor to handle that without grenading it. So before you go shooting your mouth off about having no respect for nitrous-using domestics, think of what kind of know how it took to harness that power.

Alright, I'm done now...continue the flame-wars...

go price parts for the evo. go look up a 2.3 stroker kit on slowboyracing.com .. they also have the gt35r turbo that he uses. that right there is $3400. Add in the required goodies.. fuel sys, anything that touched air flow, etc + drivetrain mods and you've spent an additional 5-6k at worst. Sooo thats 10k lets say... and the car is 30k.. NEW. Every other car he raced was a newer car. We dont need to go into your whole buy some rust bucket and make it go fast as 5 million ppl will chime in on what can go the fastest for the cheapest. But DO get your shit straight. AND all of this is from a ROLL when the evo was made to go from a STOP... NO vid was made from a stop as it would be straight out NOT FAIR to the other cars. Props to the chevy for a kickass car. Full respect even if he uses a bottle, whatever. Its a nice car... and the rest of us know it took ALOT of work to make it move like that.

i'm sure there was more stuff done to that evolution that would drive the cost up.

but i dont understand why we're arguing?

The Fact Remains is... NO, YOU CANT. I have done this before, The original engin in a '67 Comaro is in no condition to be blown or handle a 300 shot of nitros. The engine alone in that Chevy was probably OVER 15k for Block, machien work (if done), Ballenced Crank, 4 bolt mains, Cams, Intake manifold, Distributor, Ignition, Heads, Valves/springs/rockers/push rods, Carburator...There are more but i will quit there. Then comes the Auto transmission that can handle that power and the high stall torque converter. Rear end and driver shaft...


Man, you must not know diddly squat about how cheap Domestic shit can be.


http://www.jegs.com/photos/80912498793.jpg
$12999.99 = Horsepower: 620 @ 5500 RPM Torque: 650 ft/lb @ 4500 RPM runs on 92 octane.

AND IT COMES A GM FACTORY WARRANTY
The ZZ572/620 is built around an all-new Gen IV tall deck Bow Tie cylinder block. This race block is filled with a forged 4340 steel crankshaft with 4.375'' stroke, shot peened forged 4340 H-beam rods, and forged aluminum pistons with full floating wrist pins. Plasma-moly rings are standard as is the screened and louvered windage tray. Hard core parts for hard core long term durability.

The redesigned rectangular port aluminum cylinder heads result in a pump gas friendly 9.6:1 compression ratio. A hydraulic roller cam with 0.632'' lift actuates the stainless steel valves. And ,of course, hardened chromemoly retainers, roller rocker arms, and dual valve springs are used to complete the valvetrain.

A GM tall deck single plane intake manifold and 850 CFM Demon carburetor deliver enough air and fuel to make the 620 HP at 5500 RPM and 650 ft/lb or torque at 4500 RPM. Ignition is handled by a GM HEI distributor. This impressive big-block engine is pump gas friendly, with massive horsepower and torque all from GM, the ZZ572 is for those who consider excess to be barely enough and suitable for street/strip applications. Finally released by GM but gone is the bright red paint and Chevy Bow Tie logo on the valve covers. Now it comes in the traditional Chevy orange paint and 572ci on the valve covers!

Now, that's a little extreme. But that is extremely cheap for a motor that makes that kind of power.

Moving on... A transmission to hold 600 horsepower? Ok, take an old Th400 tranny and spend $400 on it and there you go. A 'built' tranny isn't as much as you'd think.

Rearend? Take the old 10-bolt rearend, spend $1000 on it. And there ya go. Built rearends aren't super expensive. They can be, but if you know where to go and what to buy. It's all cheese.


If you want to spend some money, but not $13,000 for a 'race-motor'. You could go to a local speed shop... check this out...

http://www.speedomotive.com/550hp_1.gif
This is a 396ci small block.
HP = 551 @ 6,500 RPM
TQ = 499 @ 4,500 RPM
Turn Key Price = $7,773.00 includes dynotuning and ready to drop in.

Say we spend $12,000 on Motor, Transmission, Rearend and Suspension. $3000 on the Donor vehicle. $15000 and you've got a badass car.

Oh yeah... since you said it... it can't be done. :rolleyes: