90' V6 Manifold

i have an oil leak from valve cover that sits underneath intake manifold; I already fix leak from right valve cover and tried to get to left valve cover on the other side, i can't do it, there is this damn bracket welded to bunch of pipes in the front(pretty much next to ignition wires); do i have to cut that bracket off in order to remove intake manifold :confused:

thanks :)

You're welcome

hmm... i just check 2nd manual pretty much and still don't know how :screwy:, my 4runner crew doesn't know either :mad:

this is what im talking about, that bracket is welded on, moves maybe 2mm up, :screwy: shietttty picture but ..., whatever

http://m.1asphost.com/northernsun/4runner/bracket1.jpg

thanks

I've got two manuals and no one seems to think it's a problem. Sorry I don't have an engine in front of me. Maybe you are just moving the chamber in the wrong direction. Needs to go sideways ot tilt it a small amount then up or something.

Post a photo?

Needs to go sideways ot tilt it a small amount then up or something

that bracket is denitively in the way, big time; i could partly lift back of the manifold, front can’t do it. In order to slide manifold out either direction I have lift it up at least few inches; since that bracket doesn't move at all im stack :disappoin , i'll take few shots tomorrow during the day, thanks for reply Brian :)

If you're in Maryland, I'll stop by tomorrow... :)

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here are some pictures:

bracket itself
foto#1 (http://m.1asphost.com/northernsun/4runner/4runner-bracket1.jpg)

arrows pointing to buch of pipes that won't move at all (max lift 2mm)
foto#2 (http://m.1asphost.com/northernsun/4runner/4runner-bracket2.jpg)

manifold has to be lift off of that blue bolt in order to be taken out, again, damn bracket is in the way
foto#3 (http://m.1asphost.com/northernsun/4runner/4runner-bracket3.jpg)

bracket front layout
foto#4 (http://m.1asphost.com/northernsun/4runner/4runner-bracket4.jpg)

so, that's pretty much the problem im having, suggestions appreciated, thanks

OK, that is the bracket I figured you were having trouble with.

If I read the manual right, they say that removing the tubing and hoses from the ends of the steel tubing that is around and under that bracket, and removing the bolt that holds the bracket in place, will allow you to move the bracket enough to remove the manifold.

OK, that is the bracket I figured you were having trouble with.

If I read the manual right, they say that removing the tubing and hoses from the ends of the steel tubing that is around and under that bracket, and removing the bolt that holds the bracket in place, will allow you to move the bracket enough to remove the manifold. You can bend those tubes a little to gain clearance. I would bend them at the right-angle turn they make to go under the manifold. Bend them as little as possible. You also have a choice as to whether to bend them forward or up and get clearance. Go with whatever direction moves easiest.

Sorry if alot of this is obvious.

Talk to this guy

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=406737

hmm... interesting , i dont even know where half of these lines are leading to :screwy: , im not sure if I what a leak on the top of another leak, i think im just better of cuting U legs of that bracket and bending rest off it toward front of the truck (if u know what i mean, look at U legs of that bracket), even thou that bracket has emboss on it i think i might be lucky enough to bend it and slide that manifold sideways. And bending back that bracket later on; if im not mistaken those pipes doesn't even need support; maybe im just talking nonsense here, i dont even know that truck that well yet :confused:

Do u think is gonna work ?, Daam 4runners :evillol:

If you cut that bracket so that it doesn't support those tubes any more, after your done, do something to support those tubes (steel wire around them and the bracket?). There would be alot of vibration and strain on the ends of the tubes without that bracket. Personally, I would bend them enough to get the manifold clear. Talk to that other guy first and see how he did it.

let see what he's sayin,

first thing remove the front radiator hoses the three that go to that braket you were talking about. remove all small vacum lines from the F.P.R and the front braket. behind the throttle body thare are more hoses to remove and a small fuel line(I think its fuel) going parrallel with the engine. Remove that too. disconnect the distributor and air intake pipes to the mass air flow sensor. now we can remove the 4 long bolts to the intake and the bolt you have circled in red just unbolt it. In picture #3 remove that bolt. Right ubove that bolt in your picture thare is a braket holding a cable under that braket thare is another nut to take out. you can get to this two ways if you have a torx bit thare is a access hole you can go threw or just remove the braket. thare are two more bolts on the other side of the throttle body remove those as well. on the pass side you. disconnect the cold start vave and start removing hoses.(mark them as you take them off this is my mistake and now I can't get them back together correctly) remove the two studs that hold on the egr valve. two nuts is all you need. that should be all you need to remove the intake manifold its all I needed.

hmm..., i just didn't want to disconnect all those hoses, but i guess i have to do it.

(mark them as you take them off this is my mistake and now I can't get them back together correctly)

that's all u need to know?,vacuum hoses that goes to TB, let me know and thanks :)

Oh man, you didn't even try removing the hoses?

Argh

heh, that's correct :icon16: all those hoses and pipes = extra headache; i'll try to work around that bracket first, if I can't, I will follow the lead of Maddhatter as soon as it gets warmer again :)