V6 Maro Vs Mustang
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Savage Messiah
05-13-2005, 04:07 PM
you cant tell me that with a few mods i dont have a chance at taking down that mustang..
A few mods... dont forget weight reduction ;)
A few mods... dont forget weight reduction ;)
GTStang
05-13-2005, 05:16 PM
On the papers 5.0's run 16's, on the papers the v6 maros with 3.8l's run 15.5
continue yer bickering :D
Let me guess did you write this paper yourself? :loser:
continue yer bickering :D
Let me guess did you write this paper yourself? :loser:
bag91
05-13-2005, 05:24 PM
Let me guess did you write this paper yourself? :loser:
:owned:
:owned:
GTStang
05-13-2005, 05:27 PM
you guys can sit here and talk numbers and crunch brains all day over this.. or you can simply... get over it. here's the thing, we all know there is more to a race than numbers. 4 people have said it, everyone has agreed, did anyone take into consideration the difference in powertrain loss in the auto mustang as opposed to the 5 speed camaro? NO. There is another variable.. so until you guys say it can or cant be done... think. I've been gone a few days and havent been around to argue, but heres what i bring to the table..
I have a 93 v6 auto Camaro. 3.4L rated at 160hp stock. My car has a K&N FIPK, Magnaflow Exhaust, no catalytic convertor, a TransGO shift kit (soon to be coupled with a GM servo), and stock 3.23 rear end gear ratio.. my car, is by no means superman. Ok, i havent dyno'd my car, so i have no idea what my peak hp or torque is, and i know quite a few of you guys are in the same boat, we can only assume that we are running a little more than stock.. what.. exhaust gave me maybe 10 and intake maybe 5.. so.. say im running roughly at 175 hp, against a mustang with 225. you cant tell me that with a few mods i dont have a chance at taking down that mustang..
Actually I have took into account the variables of powertrain loss of an auto and a stick.
Second I don't even know what your argueing here.... if it's the guy's story well I have explained why it sounds fishy to me and if you can't understand it then your just choosing to ignore the numbers he provided.
If it's a 5.0 vs a V6 stock well I have been talking about stock the whole time and it should be assumed.
Even if you go your mods vs assume good mechanical shape auto 5.0 both driven to perfection you lose. Why?
Lighter car wit more hp, more torque, better torque area under curve> Heavier car behind in all other catergories.
Now if the 5.0 was not driven well or the motor was really beat on could you win.... sure never denied that.
I have a 93 v6 auto Camaro. 3.4L rated at 160hp stock. My car has a K&N FIPK, Magnaflow Exhaust, no catalytic convertor, a TransGO shift kit (soon to be coupled with a GM servo), and stock 3.23 rear end gear ratio.. my car, is by no means superman. Ok, i havent dyno'd my car, so i have no idea what my peak hp or torque is, and i know quite a few of you guys are in the same boat, we can only assume that we are running a little more than stock.. what.. exhaust gave me maybe 10 and intake maybe 5.. so.. say im running roughly at 175 hp, against a mustang with 225. you cant tell me that with a few mods i dont have a chance at taking down that mustang..
Actually I have took into account the variables of powertrain loss of an auto and a stick.
Second I don't even know what your argueing here.... if it's the guy's story well I have explained why it sounds fishy to me and if you can't understand it then your just choosing to ignore the numbers he provided.
If it's a 5.0 vs a V6 stock well I have been talking about stock the whole time and it should be assumed.
Even if you go your mods vs assume good mechanical shape auto 5.0 both driven to perfection you lose. Why?
Lighter car wit more hp, more torque, better torque area under curve> Heavier car behind in all other catergories.
Now if the 5.0 was not driven well or the motor was really beat on could you win.... sure never denied that.
bag91
05-13-2005, 05:32 PM
Actually I have took into account the variables of powertrain loss of an auto and a stick.
Second I don't even know what your argueing here.... if it's the guy's story well I have explained why it sounds fishy to me and if you can't understand it then your just choosing to ignore the numbers he provided.
If it's a 5.0 vs a V6 stock well I have been talking about stock the whole time and it should be assumed.
Even if you go your mods vs assume good mechanical shape auto 5.0 both driven to perfection you lose. Why?
Lighter car wit more hp, more torque, better torque area under curve> Heavier car behind in all other catergories.
Now if the 5.0 was not driven well or the motor was really beat on could you win.... sure never denied that.
Hey GTstang, comparing the stick to the auto 5.0, there really isn't a huge difference is there?
I've ridden in both, so I kinda know...
Second I don't even know what your argueing here.... if it's the guy's story well I have explained why it sounds fishy to me and if you can't understand it then your just choosing to ignore the numbers he provided.
If it's a 5.0 vs a V6 stock well I have been talking about stock the whole time and it should be assumed.
Even if you go your mods vs assume good mechanical shape auto 5.0 both driven to perfection you lose. Why?
Lighter car wit more hp, more torque, better torque area under curve> Heavier car behind in all other catergories.
Now if the 5.0 was not driven well or the motor was really beat on could you win.... sure never denied that.
Hey GTstang, comparing the stick to the auto 5.0, there really isn't a huge difference is there?
I've ridden in both, so I kinda know...
drvngstorm05
05-13-2005, 05:44 PM
On the papers 5.0's run 16's, on the papers the v6 maros with 3.8l's run 15.5
continue yer bickering :D
i'm no stang fan, but 5.0's were runnin mid-high 14's... but i believe the story cuz he was saying the 5.0 was runnin crappy, which is very possible for a car as old as 5.0 stangs are...
continue yer bickering :D
i'm no stang fan, but 5.0's were runnin mid-high 14's... but i believe the story cuz he was saying the 5.0 was runnin crappy, which is very possible for a car as old as 5.0 stangs are...
bag91
05-13-2005, 06:00 PM
i'm no stang fan, but 5.0's were runnin mid-high 14's... but i believe the story cuz he was saying the 5.0 was runnin crappy, which is very possible for a car as old as 5.0 stangs are...
It really doesnt make a difference, but they made 5.0's in 94, I should know, my brother has one..... :smile:
It really doesnt make a difference, but they made 5.0's in 94, I should know, my brother has one..... :smile:
Savage Messiah
05-15-2005, 04:37 AM
It really doesnt make a difference, but they made 5.0's in 94, I should know, my brother has one..... :smile:
yes, because 11 years old is so new.
yes, because 11 years old is so new.
eillob
05-15-2005, 11:42 PM
i'm no stang fan, but 5.0's were runnin mid-high 14's... but i believe the story cuz he was saying the 5.0 was runnin crappy, which is very possible for a car as old as 5.0 stangs are...
Since when does the age of the car have to do with how it runs? :screwy: What, you just run out of negative things to say about stangs? If this is the best you could come up with, now might be a good time to back away from the keyboard.
Speaking of old, what year camaro you got there. I belive 92 was the last year of that body style. So your car is about what 13 yrs old. Does IT run like crap?:rolleyes:
Since when does the age of the car have to do with how it runs? :screwy: What, you just run out of negative things to say about stangs? If this is the best you could come up with, now might be a good time to back away from the keyboard.
Speaking of old, what year camaro you got there. I belive 92 was the last year of that body style. So your car is about what 13 yrs old. Does IT run like crap?:rolleyes:
drvngstorm05
05-16-2005, 12:17 AM
Since when does the age of the car have to do with how it runs? :screwy: What, you just run out of negative things to say about stangs? If this is the best you could come up with, now might be a good time to back away from the keyboard.
Speaking of old, what year camaro you got there. I belive 92 was the last year of that body style. So your car is about what 13 yrs old. Does IT run like crap?:rolleyes:
dude get the broomstick outa ur ass. i said it was possible. there are good chances that if a fox-body stang has been in the hands of a not so good owner that it may be on its last leg. there are quite a few 3rd gen camaros that are runnin like shit too because the owner didn't take care of 'em. my camaro runs fine thank you. and its a '92. y do u think that all camaro guys say nothing but bad things about stangs? i just gave props to them the post before for running in the 14's during the years that the 350 tpi camaros ran low 15's...
ugh... my god dude, i talk crap about stangs outta healthy competition. u just have problems...
Speaking of old, what year camaro you got there. I belive 92 was the last year of that body style. So your car is about what 13 yrs old. Does IT run like crap?:rolleyes:
dude get the broomstick outa ur ass. i said it was possible. there are good chances that if a fox-body stang has been in the hands of a not so good owner that it may be on its last leg. there are quite a few 3rd gen camaros that are runnin like shit too because the owner didn't take care of 'em. my camaro runs fine thank you. and its a '92. y do u think that all camaro guys say nothing but bad things about stangs? i just gave props to them the post before for running in the 14's during the years that the 350 tpi camaros ran low 15's...
ugh... my god dude, i talk crap about stangs outta healthy competition. u just have problems...
Xenostalgia
05-16-2005, 01:48 AM
i'm no stang fan, but 5.0's were runnin mid-high 14's..
I was told 16's thnks for clearing that up. :)
I was told 16's thnks for clearing that up. :)
LT1MAN
05-16-2005, 12:22 PM
this thread is getting really gay, all this shoulda coulda woulda stuff, point is its about who won. if you beat somebody because they missed a gear. you won. if you beat somebody because their mustang was running like shit, you won. if you beat a z28 camaro that was really a v6 with z28 stickers on the side, you won. call it what you wanna call it. point is, camaro faster than mustang. stock for stock. put the same mods on both cars, the same outcome. i can see this thread getting violent pretty soon.
Xenostalgia
05-16-2005, 01:23 PM
I can see a cucumber getting violent with your ear.
Fyi its de badged idiot :D
Fyi its de badged idiot :D
LT1MAN
05-16-2005, 02:54 PM
bout time wanna be
Xenostalgia
05-16-2005, 03:13 PM
Yer an idiot atleast I dont have stupid-ass bling bling rims that came out of a cracker-jack box. =O
drvngstorm05
05-16-2005, 05:16 PM
Yer an idiot atleast I dont have stupid-ass bling bling rims that came out of a cracker-jack box. =O
a v6 can't turn rims that big... if u put them on u'd just be slower than u already are :p
a v6 can't turn rims that big... if u put them on u'd just be slower than u already are :p
cuda_dude
05-16-2005, 09:27 PM
Yer an idiot atleast I dont have stupid-ass bling bling rims that came out of a cracker-jack box. =O
xeno xeno xeno... calm down little man.... now we all know your just jealous... its not your fault the old lady beats you to the cracker jacks every time....
xeno xeno xeno... calm down little man.... now we all know your just jealous... its not your fault the old lady beats you to the cracker jacks every time....
bag91
05-16-2005, 11:42 PM
yes, because 11 years old is so new.
How old are you, do you have any idea what your talking about?
How old are you, do you have any idea what your talking about?
eillob
05-17-2005, 12:50 AM
dude get the broomstick outa ur ass. i said it was possible. there are good chances that if a fox-body stang has been in the hands of a not so good owner that it may be on its last leg. there are quite a few 3rd gen camaros that are runnin like shit too because the owner didn't take care of 'em. my camaro runs fine thank you. and its a '92. y do u think that all camaro guys say nothing but bad things about stangs? i just gave props to them the post before for running in the 14's during the years that the 350 tpi camaros ran low 15's...
ugh... my god dude, i talk crap about stangs outta healthy competition. u just have problems...
Broom stick outta my ass? What are you gay now?
Thank you for clearing up this dumb ass statement.
[/QUOTE]but i believe the story cuz he was saying the 5.0 was runnin crappy, which is very possible for a car as old as 5.0 stangs are...[/QUOTE]
Your absolutely correct. Age of the car is totally irrelevant so long as the car has been properly maintained. Hense my point.
ugh... my god dude, i talk crap about stangs outta healthy competition. u just have problems...
Broom stick outta my ass? What are you gay now?
Thank you for clearing up this dumb ass statement.
[/QUOTE]but i believe the story cuz he was saying the 5.0 was runnin crappy, which is very possible for a car as old as 5.0 stangs are...[/QUOTE]
Your absolutely correct. Age of the car is totally irrelevant so long as the car has been properly maintained. Hense my point.
Xenostalgia
05-17-2005, 03:00 PM
Lol my maro isn't that slow I drag race snails ALL the time and win by atleast 2 shells.... cmon give me some credit..
and you are damn right I get upset when the old lady beats me to the cracker jacks box!
and you are damn right I get upset when the old lady beats me to the cracker jacks box!
drvngstorm05
05-17-2005, 03:37 PM
well,eillob. u know my point was that it was possible that a fox-body stang could be runing bad based on the fact that alot of old cars are not takin care of. while say it is not likely that a 2005 mustang is gonna be running crappy. u just turned my point around...
like immature little kids we continue to take stabs at each other. the only way to get an immature kid to shut up is to give him what he wants, so here ya go.
camaros suck, mustangs are gods. every mustang runs perfect, every camaro runs like shit. and even if a camaro had a blown, nitro chugging top fuel car engine, and a mustang had hamsters running in wheels; the camaro would still lose because camaros suck and all camaro owners suck at life. now we can be friends and u can stfu :smooch:
like immature little kids we continue to take stabs at each other. the only way to get an immature kid to shut up is to give him what he wants, so here ya go.
camaros suck, mustangs are gods. every mustang runs perfect, every camaro runs like shit. and even if a camaro had a blown, nitro chugging top fuel car engine, and a mustang had hamsters running in wheels; the camaro would still lose because camaros suck and all camaro owners suck at life. now we can be friends and u can stfu :smooch:
Link85x
05-17-2005, 03:44 PM
well,eillob. u know my point was that it was possible that a fox-body stang could be runing bad based on the fact that alot of old cars are not takin care of. while say it is not likely that a 2005 mustang is gonna be running crappy. u just turned my point around...
like immature little kids we continue to take stabs at each other. the only way to get an immature kid to shut up is to give him what he wants, so here ya go.
camaros suck, mustangs are gods. every mustang runs perfect, every camaro runs like shit. and even if a camaro had a blown, nitro chugging top fuel car engine, and a mustang had hamsters running in wheels; the camaro would still lose because camaros suck and all camaro owners suck at life. now we can be friends and u can stfu :smooch:
Drvngstorm, you da man!!!!!!!!
like immature little kids we continue to take stabs at each other. the only way to get an immature kid to shut up is to give him what he wants, so here ya go.
camaros suck, mustangs are gods. every mustang runs perfect, every camaro runs like shit. and even if a camaro had a blown, nitro chugging top fuel car engine, and a mustang had hamsters running in wheels; the camaro would still lose because camaros suck and all camaro owners suck at life. now we can be friends and u can stfu :smooch:
Drvngstorm, you da man!!!!!!!!
Xenostalgia
05-17-2005, 04:51 PM
Lol woot woot! pwned!
Muscletang
05-17-2005, 08:25 PM
well,eillob. u know my point was that it was possible that a fox-body stang could be runing bad based on the fact that alot of old cars are not takin care of. while say it is not likely that a 2005 mustang is gonna be running crappy. u just turned my point around...
like immature little kids we continue to take stabs at each other. the only way to get an immature kid to shut up is to give him what he wants, so here ya go.
camaros suck, mustangs are gods. every mustang runs perfect, every camaro runs like shit. and even if a camaro had a blown, nitro chugging top fuel car engine, and a mustang had hamsters running in wheels; the camaro would still lose because camaros suck and all camaro owners suck at life. now we can be friends and u can stfu :smooch:
:owned:
like immature little kids we continue to take stabs at each other. the only way to get an immature kid to shut up is to give him what he wants, so here ya go.
camaros suck, mustangs are gods. every mustang runs perfect, every camaro runs like shit. and even if a camaro had a blown, nitro chugging top fuel car engine, and a mustang had hamsters running in wheels; the camaro would still lose because camaros suck and all camaro owners suck at life. now we can be friends and u can stfu :smooch:
:owned:
88camaroproject
05-17-2005, 08:51 PM
i just got a new hero, lol wow ownage like what happens when a skinny white dude touches a black mans radio, or like a squirrel eating nuts under a box.....
Rally Sport
05-17-2005, 10:05 PM
eillob just got http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/302858firewheelowned.jpg
Burn, lol :D
Burn, lol :D
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